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12:00 PM
Wait both of those sentences sound extremely accurate...
:P
 
The English guy with tea instead of blood and whose cows are fed with other cows doesn't get to talk!
 
@TheLethalCarrot I would agree if it weren't for the beret.
 
@Jenayah I don't know what you mean, sips tea
 
SQB
@TheLethalCarrot a bit late, but taken care of.
 
Cheers
 
SQB
12:06 PM
@Randal'Thor it's getting cold somewhere, if you know what I mean.
 
@TheLethalCarrot Don't be. That's what flags and nukes are for.
What I often do with questions about potentially controversial topics - both on this site and others where I'm not a mod - is to leave a PSA comment just to remind everyone to be nice.
 
@Randal'Thor Sure, my stance was just to try and minimise that at the source. It's always better to try and stop them before they happen than react to it as they do
 
@Jenayah Over here we call them chips, not fries of any kind :-D
@SQB Fixed, if I understood you correctly.
 
@Randal'Thor Fries/French fries is starting to become popular... with chips meaning proper thick home cut ones and fries being skinny McDonalds style. That's the convention I've started seeing in resteraunts
 
@TheLethalCarrot I.e. proper chips and US-style chips? :-P
 
SQB
12:15 PM
@Randal'Thor Meanwhile, "chips" is the word that many around the world use for crisps.
 
<northern accent> Naw, luv, we make proper chips round here.
 
Basically
 
That also makes sense. Since then "chips" would at least remotely be somewhat chipped.
 
mmmhm, now I'm thinking of my grandmas homemade chips
 
SQB
@TheLethalCarrot how do Dutch and Belgian fries figure into that?
Not as thin as French fries, not as thick as chips.
 
12:17 PM
@SQB I would assume fries but I don't know
@TheLethalCarrot And this has been done with the latest edit by rewording the main question slightly.
 
SQB
@TheLethalCarrot which one?
 
Was about that SW Q
 
Fish 'n Chips chips are also significantly different from normal fries anyway. So that's a really neat distinction.
 
Well fish and chip chips are proper thick chips
 
SQB
@TheLethalCarrot national stereotypes?
 
12:19 PM
Aye
 
@NapoleonWilson Depends what you call 'normal'. But I think you're talking about the same distinction as this.
 
@Randal'Thor Well yes, I was still elaborating on my opinion that the statement you link to makes for a sensible distinction.
@Randal'Thor Non-Fish'n'Chipsy, that is.
 
@NapoleonWilson Ah, you didn't link-reply, so I wasn't quite sure what you were responding to.
 
I was just chiming in with a general discussion reply.
I hoped it was fast enough to be mentally linked to the last significant statement made by anyone. So I don't have to click the reply button. ;-)
 
Are those nice thick chips actually a big thing in many countries other than Britain?
Seems like the US has done better at spreading its chips worldwide, via companies like McDonalds.
 
SQB
12:26 PM
They're often called "Grandmother's Fries" in The Netherlands.
 
@Randal'Thor Hopefully not, lets keep them to ourselves :P
 
SQB
Although that's usually a branding thing.
 
Well, they are here as part of an "authentic British Fish'n'Chips experience"™. Other than that I haven't seen them all too often other than special occasions maybe.
 
10 mins ago, by TheLethalCarrot
mmmhm, now I'm thinking of my grandmas homemade chips
 
SQB
They're trying to sell the same things but with the peel on as "Grandfather's Fries".
 
12:28 PM
I guess they're rising in popularity. They might also have a certain hipster factor about them.
@SQB Oh, that's nice.
 
@SQB Because ... grandfathers wear more clothes than grandmothers? That seems odd.
 
@SQB So more like wedges?
 
@Randal'Thor No, they're lazier, so they don't peel the potatoes.
 
And to be fair all my grandparents wore way too many layers so it was hard to tell who had the most on
 
The...chip isn't actually supposed to represent a grandmother, ya know. ;-)
 
SQB
12:30 PM
@Randal'Thor my guess would be the same as Napoleon's.
 
@NapoleonWilson Ah. Heh :-)
 
@TheLethalCarrot those are the grandparents who you have to look for because of the heatwave but put a wool on at 7pm because "it's a bit chilly outside" ? :D
 
@Jenayah It's always a bit chilly out
It can be 30 degrees and chilly out, don't underestimate the wind :P
 
@TheLethalCarrot oh so you have cannibalist cows and no heatwave? Great.
 
My permanent sweat for the past 3 weeks (thank god for the overcast and rain at the moment) would tell you we may have had a heatwave
 
12:33 PM
Talking about Englishmen getting lost in French habits:
recommended ^ funny one
 
merde = shit right?
 
yup
but it's in French so it's more classy
 
Lol
> £0.01 + £5.98 Delivery
So you're selling for £6 then
Haha
 
Watch out for merderous Frenchmen. They might try to kill you, or just shit on you.
 
12:36 PM
Weeellll...
 
Sorry, I can never resist a bit of wordplay :-P
 
One of the most common insults here is "je t'emmerde"
Which kind of means "I cover you in shit", indeed
but it's in French so it's more classy
 
Of course.
 
SQB
Especially since it starts out sounding like "je t'aime".
 
Yeah, I thought it was a really odd wordcross. Like hate-love or something.
 
12:39 PM
Eh, not really, the "je t'aime" sounds like the "eh" sound in "eh" or "heavy", the "je t'emmerde" sounds more like the "han" in "prank"
 
"heavy" and "prank" sound exactly the same, though. ;-)
 
@NapoleonWilson Only to Germans.
 
I'd like to YouTube videos of learning to pronounce French insults, because I'm sure there are some, but probably NSFW ahah
 
Well, prove it with IPA.
 
so do your research :D
@NapoleonWilson well I guess that depends on your accent ahah
 
12:41 PM
My German friends IRL have caused a lot of confusion with the words "hat" and "head".
 
@Randal'Thor Well, those sound definitely different, though.
I'm not that stupid. ;-)
 
Eheh the joke here is that German sounds so aggressive, they use it to tame the lions and tigers in circuses
 
Looking at the IPA, though, I think I get what you're after.
 
@Jenayah rofl :-D
 
12:56 PM
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Q: What is Klaus's daughter?

The WaspIn The Originals, Klaus has got a miracle baby daughter who: is a daughter of an original hybrid and a werewolf. can heal vampires from lethal werewolf bite (power of original hybrid). can create hybrids. A werewolf in transition must drink the blood of baby (power of human doppelganger blood)....

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Q: What is Hope Mikaelson?

NightShadeWe know she is a witch for she was seen using her magic in S4 EP8. When she made Davina disappear and blew away the protection circle. We also know she is part werewolf due to her parents. We get further proof that she is a werewolf because she bears the Cresent mark. I’m confused though because ...

dupe
 
Vote to close?
I gather Hope Mikaelson is the name of Klaus's daughter then?
 
@NapoleonWilson It survived months without getting closed os though chat might give soem attention
 
I have a question which is a bit selfish.
 
@AnkitSharma Your duplicate comment is from a minute ago, though.
 
(but anyways)
Can you still accept an answer after the question is closed?
 
12:59 PM
@AnkitSharma Let it go through the queue, not everyone knows where all dupe targets are, it's most likely just been missed
@Jenayah Sure you can, the system lets you doesn't it? ;P
 
Are you saying there's a question on this site that should be closed as duplicate but isn't? That's...a change for once. ;-)
 
@TheLethalCarrot I dunno
 
(I believe it does)
 
but I just realized:
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Q: Manga about woman marrying man from another tribe

Helpless OtakuA story of a woman who travelled from a distant land (that's what I think) to marry a man (don't know his name; for specifics the woman is older and the other is I think is 12-15 years old) form a different tribe (this is kinda from a medieval age). The art works is very detailed specially for th...

is not sci-fi actually
nor fantasy
 
@NapoleonWilson And a welcome one haha
 
1:00 PM
it's kinda good but unrelated ahah
 
@NapoleonWilson Yeah I just noticed and thought to bring attention
 
definitely not SFF though, for the 2-3 tomes I read
 
@Jenayah : Don't sweat the small stuff. :3
 
I took it to be fantasy (being generous from the description) and it's not accepted yet so could be still
Though I wouldn't mind if it was closed or left open
 
@TheLethalCarrot Well the question does lack SFF elements at least
 
1:02 PM
@Jenayah Migrate to Anime & Manga? (Yeah, no, I'm joking, please don't) ;-)
 
Sure, I am being generous here haha
 
and if it's indeed Bride's Story, it's not SFF
 
Well it's not fantasy indeed; I read 4/5 tomes at there's nothing related to fantasy in there.
 
@lephe Assuming you have the correct id
 
@NapoleonWilson lol
 
1:02 PM
@TheLethalCarrot Right.
 
@Jenayah Like has been said we tend to be generous when closing and assume SFF-nal until proven otherwise
 
@TheLethalCarrot true, but I'll go as far as saying everything matches ahah
 
@NapoleonWilson AFAIK A&M reject identification questions?
 
@TheLethalCarrot well I mean that's what the "on hold" status is for right?
 
@lephe Indeed.
 
1:04 PM
@Jenayah Sure but it's better to be more lenient and leave a Q open than close straight away, but if it's not SFF-nal you can always VTC it
 
@Jenayah But what would you base the reopening on then, acceptance?
 
(depending on case by case of course)
 
@NapoleonWilson well if it's not Bride's Story and the OP remembers SFF stuff we can reopen
 
The question is if the question has those elements. The answer shouldn't really matter to make that decision.
 
If it's Bride's Story, we close no matter if OP accepts it or not
 
1:05 PM
@Jenayah Provided he puts those memories into the question.
 
@NapoleonWilson Well that's the whole basis of the site :P
 
@TheLethalCarrot it's not closed right away though innit? It's on hold for a week or something?
 
@Jenayah Well on hold indefinitely, there are rules around auto deleting downvoted Qs but those don't apply here
 
Hmmm, looking at the question that's really a stretch to interpret as fantasy indeed. (Other than horses and bows automatically meaning medieval fantasy, of course.)
 
Like I said I was being very generous and assuming best intentions etc etc
 
1:08 PM
@NapoleonWilson Thanks for the parenthetical ;-) I have to delete a lot of comments proposing migration of ID questions to A&M.
 
But well, it's ID anyway. Not like anyone else wants 'em.
Oh, heh!
 
@TheLethalCarrot I'm going to quote you on this ;-)
 
Wait, the Trade Federation have Thai accents in the original?
 
@Randal'Thor And I shall quote you back with "(depending on case by case of course)" :P
 
Heh, in the German version they're French.
(Not that any of those alternatives is a particularly great idea.)
 
1:13 PM
(not sure how I should take this :D )
 
@NapoleonWilson Most SE sites are fine with ID questions, except a few which have had exceptionally bad experiences with them.
 
@Jenayah It's more against the employment of heavy stereotypical accents in the first place rather than the accent itself, or the language and culture behind that accent. ;-)
 
We've had some interesting questions about accents.
 
Then again I'm not sure how you'd convey some ideas to the "broader audience" without those accents ahah
we've fallen this far :/
 
It's always a relevant point when adapting a sci-fi or fantasy work to the screen (or anything with audio). Easy enough to describe someone as having an 'alien' accent, but if you expect an actor to portray that, they need to do something more specific.
 
1:17 PM
@Randal'Thor reminds me of how Schwarzenegger kept on with the thick Austrian accent for years because people just expected him to speak that way
 
Although even in writing it's possible to be specific. I always think Taraboners in Wheel of Time seem like they have French accents.
 
though he's been able to speak English without accent for ages
 
@Randal'Thor That...math doesn't exactly work. But anyway.
 
@NapoleonWilson well ELL still has single-word-request, SFF has story-ID and so does Literature, apparently, I think just Movies and Anime & Manga ditched them
 
@Jenayah That...sounds like an urban legend, though. Or maybe not.
 
1:21 PM
@NapoleonWilson oh possibly, I didn't say it was my personal opinion :D
Upon re-reading I could've added some "supposedly" here and there aye
 
@Jenayah Also Biology, Role-playing Games, Gardening & Landscaping, Home Improvement, etc. are all fine with ID questions.
But, as Napoleon says, anyway ;-)
 
Gaming has ID requests but they are quite restrictive
 
@Jenayah ELL gets thrown the single-word requests that ELU hates to the guts. Literature 1.0 was allegedly killed by them. A&M and M&TV struggled to get rid of them before that happened. So did Arqade. On Music Fans it already is too late. The problem here is having them doesn't equal encouraging them, as the various examples before their cleanup have shown.
And if you wanna go to a rather broad definition of ID beyond media. Sports.SE just got rid of autograph-ID, which apparently churned out awful questions on end.
 
@Randal'Thor ...what is there to ID in landscaping? Is that those "what is this type of bug/arrangment/fence called?"
 
If anything, there's a rather equal set of sites on either side at best.
 
1:24 PM
Autograph-ID?
Is that what I think it is?
 
@Jenayah I'm not actually active on that site, but it's their biggest tag at least.
 
(Reworked into earlier comment for better structuring)
 
Oh okay so it's "what's dat plant"
@NapoleonWilson oh yeah, this tag questions are of.. varying... quality...
Must be even harder to look for a song/video clip than a SFF work
 
Yeah, you'd think. ;-)
 
@NapoleonWilson I'm not sure what your last sentence refers to, actually...
(newbie spotted ^)
 
1:30 PM
@Jenayah The fact that sites that got rid of those questions also had them in abundance before they did so. So just allowing or having those questions isn't a good measure for encouraging or liking them.
 
Ok then
 
@NapoleonWilson Admittedly I'm not active on many of the sites which have them (G&L, DIY, Bio, etc.) But SFF and Lit don't have any major problems with them, and I believe RPG doesn't either.
@Jenayah this is a very long-running discussion between certain users :-)
 
Oh, I wasn't implying they do. Only that they're not exactly "most SE sites".
 
@Randal'Thor well yeah but you could also argue that they're broader and will attract other kind of questions
cf the big tags of SFF
not sure of Lit
poetry, apparently...
 
Poetry is nice.
 
1:34 PM
@NapoleonWilson Well, A&M and M&TV aren't "most SE sites" either.
@NapoleonWilson That sounds like the first line of a haiku ;-)
 
@Randal'Thor Sure, but they're...also not the only ones on the list. But...we're getting into the very same selective math problems again. ;-)
@Randal'Thor Really? o_O
 
@TheLethalCarrot Comment jinx!
 
Yup, mine has links so I win ;P
 
Woop, speak o' the devil.
Ticker feeds FTL, though.
 
@TheLethalCarrot So does mine :-P
 
1:37 PM
Ugh edited in haha
[scifi.se] in case you didn't know, quicker too
 
Rand's comment provides examples of what to add... :-)
 
Shhhh
Enough of that
 
Quick, but also pretty useless in a comment since it just takes you to the main site. Back when I still had to leave those comments, I usually linked to the tour.
 
@Jenayah I think it mostly comes down to a natural difference in how much people are likely to remember about (for example) a book vs a film. It's possible to see a few snatched minutes of a film without really engaging with it, but rarer to do that with a book.
 
@NapoleonWilson Then just use [tour], easier link and gives context
 
1:39 PM
@TheLethalCarrot I use the [site.se] abbreviations all the time, but can't see the point of using one in a welcome comment to a new user.
@TheLethalCarrot I think he knows that ;-)
 
@Randal'Thor Well it's also possible to watch an entire movie and having forgotten it the day after... :D
 
Meh, never hurts to repeat just in case
 
Helps to hammer it home. ;-)
 
Any hint for scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/192760/… ? I've been looking for it for an hour without luck.
 
@lephe Sometimes giving up and focusing your efforts elsewhere is needed, sometimes giving a break and coming back later helps
Though I applaud your effort
 
1:41 PM
Tribute to my mother who put me on the path of story-ID answering with the "Oh, I saw this great movie but I don't remember anything about it even though I saw it yesterday. You know, it's a movie with that guy. He has black hair but he had blonde hair in another movie, and in the other movie there was a girl. You know what movie I watched yesterday?" O_O
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@TheLethalCarrot Ok then, I'll try something else later. Is there a way to watch the question?
 
@TheLethalCarrot And sometimes a question lasts 5 years and you earn 7000 rep by finally answering it :-P
 
Identifying movies can be fun. We all love quizzes and riddles.
 
@Jenayah I can almost hear Napoleon's relief that she couldn't post that question on Movies & TV ;-)
 
@lephe You can favourite it which adds a link in your profile, not sure if there's an easy way to get updates on it though
 
1:43 PM
Thanks!
 
@lephe Clicking the little star below the vote buttons adds it to your "favourites" list.
 
> I saw this in a movie about a bus that had to speed around the city, keeping its speed over fifty, and if its speed dropped, it would explode! I think it was called “The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down".
 
@Randal'Thor don't worry, between my mother's grasp on English and the Internet, Napoleon can sleep without worries.
@NapoleonWilson ahahahah
 
@Jenayah But the ones in broken English are the best ones. Makes 'em extra challenging. ;-)
 
SQB
> "The Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round"
@Jenayah so which one was it?
 
1:47 PM
@SQB It was that one!
 
@SQB what Carrot said!
 
Y'know, thingy? That one!
 
In university we had a guy in the English course that also made a French course in parallel, which led to him speaking English with a French accent, which was super awesome.
 
lolwut?
But his mother tongue was English?
 
No, German.
 
SQB
1:49 PM
German, probably, knowing herr Wilson.
 
Oh right you're German, I forgot for a second
Wait, Wilson?
Like Napoleon Wilson?
TILT
Man that movie is great!
 
Uh...what movie?
 
Well
It's the convicted man from Assault on Pretinct 13 right?
 
Hah, correct!
 
Your user profile seem to say so too
:D
 
1:52 PM
Not to get into the stereotypes again, but the French really seem to dig that thing (or Caprenter in general). ;-)
 
John Carpenter for the win!
 
Woot! \o/
 
Funny enough I don't know much people who know the director
 
There's a really neat French remake of it actually, from the early 2000s.
 
@Jenayah Yeah ... not the French emperor ;-)
 
1:54 PM
@NapoleonWilson oh yeah, the French remake with French actors Ethan Hawke and Laurence Fishburne, produced by what-was-that-French-company... :D
 
@Jenayah Oh, that was okay, too. But I meant this one. I can really recommend that.
 
@NapoleonWilson oh, I thought you meant the one who kept the name ;)
Oh yeah, forgot that one had Sami Naceri in it.
Is he out of jail yet? ahah
Well, convicted again, who would've known
For whoever saw the movies, Samy Naceri's the guy playing Daniel in Taxi
The real ones, not the crappy New York thing remake.
 
Yeah, that's probably the only other thing I know him from. ;-)
 
^^
If I'm not mistaken he played in Démineurs too.
 
Wait, I think I recently saw something on TV with him. It was a rather new film with some soldiers rescuing Diane Kruger in Afghanistan or something.
 
SQB
1:59 PM
@Jenayah he's funny. Less so in real life, apparently.
 
My bad, I was thinking of Indigènes.
Days of Glory (French: Indigènes - "Natives"; Arabic: بلديون‎) is a 2006 French film directed by Rachid Bouchareb. The cast includes Sami Bouajila, Jamel Debbouze, Samy Naceri, Roschdy Zem, Mélanie Laurent and Bernard Blancan. The film deals with the contribution of North African soldiers to the Free French Forces during the Second World War and, controversially, with the discrimination against them. The film's release contributed to a partial recognition of the pension rights of soldiers from former French possessions by the French government.Jamel Debbouze, Samy Naceri, Roschdy Zem, Sami Bouajila...
(note that the English Wikipedia page on this is more documented than the French one)
@SQB guy's a prick
really good actor, really funny, can't deny that, but a prick nonetheless
 
SQB
Is this the point where I mention that my brother is married to the sister of a French actress?
 
@SQB well, six degrees of separation and all
 
@Jenayah Oh, I liked the New York remake, though. Queen Latifah is always likable.
 
SQB
Well, French-Vietnamese, actually.
 
2:04 PM
@NapoleonWilson ...Not gonna comment on that movie :D
Also, chauvinism!
 
It's alright when we remake stuff but other people shall be very careful when they remake our stuff :p
It works kinda fine sometimes though ahah
Oscar is a 1991 American screwball comedy film directed by John Landis. Based on the Claude Magnier stage play, it is a remake of the 1967 French film of the same name, but the setting has been moved to Depression-era New York City and the plot centers on a mob boss trying to go straight. The film stars Sylvester Stallone, Marisa Tomei, Ornella Muti, Tim Curry and Chazz Palminteri, and was a rare attempt by Stallone at doing a comedy role. == Plot == In the prologue, gangster Angelo "Snaps" Provolone (Sylvester Stallone) promises his dying father (Kirk Douglas) that he will give up a life of crime...
Oscar is a French comedy of errors directed by Édouard Molinaro and starring Louis de Funès. In the movie, Louis de Funès plays an industrialist named Bertrand Barnier who discovers over the course of a single day that his daughter is pregnant, he has been robbed by an employee, and various other calamities have befallen his household and his business. An English-language version of the movie was made in 1991, by John Landis, under the same name and starring Sylvester Stallone. == Plot == Christian Martin, a modest accountant in a large firm owned by Bertrand Barnier, surprises his boss by asking...
 
Well, you don't get an American to watch a French movie. What else are they supposed to do than remake it? ;-)
 
@NapoleonWilson well they're busy enough remaking their own stuff rather than creating new stuff
 
Aren't they also working on this wheelchair thing with Omar Sy currently?
 
SQB
2:07 PM
Trois Hommes et un Couffin
 
@NapoleonWilson seriously?
woot
they indeed are:
 
@Jenayah Yeah, apparently with Kevin Hart and Biran Cranston actually.
 
The Upside is a 2017 American comedy-drama film directed by Neil Burger and written by Jon Hartmere. A remake of the French 2011 film The Intouchables, the film follows a paralyzed billionaire (Bryan Cranston) who strikes up an unlikely friendship with a recently paroled convict (Kevin Hart). Nicole Kidman, Julianna Margulies and Aja Naomi King also star. Filming began in Philadelphia in January 2017. The film premiered at the 2017 Toronto International Film Festival. == Plot == A comedic look at the relationship between a wealthy paraplegic and an unemployed man with a criminal record who's hired...
c'mon guys get ideas of your own
 
SQB
They remade Intouchables?
 
@SQB They don't respect nothing!
Ces vauriens!
 
SQB
2:10 PM
I don't see a Hollywood remake of Baise-moi in the near future, though.
That was a brutal film.
 
... I don't know the movie, but knowing French language there's no way I'm Googling that on my work computer :D
Oh hey, I'm at exactly 4k rep! :o
 
SQB
Baise-moi (Fuck me) is a 2000 French crime thriller film with elements of a rape and revenge film written and directed by Virginie Despentes and Coralie Trinh Thi and starring Karen Lancaume and Raffaëla Anderson. It is based on the novel by Despentes, first published in 1993. The film received intense media coverage because of its graphic mix of violence and explicit sex scenes. Consequently, it is sometimes considered an example of the "New French Extremity." As a French noun, un baiser means "a kiss," but as a verb, baiser means "to fuck," so Baise-moi means simply "Fuck me." In some markets...
 
@SQB don't feel obligated to pop that on my screen, will you :)
Though yeah, Hollywood would be a bit prude to remake that ahah
 
2:38 PM
@NapoleonWilson ahah and honestly, it's still... okayish with the character
Ever seen The Villain?
'cause in this one, oh my, not only he still has the accent, but the movie is stupid (funny, though), and he plays a dummy character in a dummy movie.
That's worth of a watch if you ever run out of ideas on a "I don't think I even have two neurons left" night ahah
 
I haven't even heard about it.
 
I'll keep i' in mind.
 
I mean just look at that poster :'D
tells one everything you need to know about the movie
 
SQB
@Jenayah seen Kung Fury?
 
2:49 PM
Not a fan of that one, if I have to be honest.
'xcept for the David Hasselofhowdoyouwritethisname song
 
SQB
I love it. It's a concentrated version of all '80s action movies.
 
As much as I love (and man, I love those) 80's action movies, just mashing up good things together doesn't always make a good result.
Learned that the hard way with one joker of a friend, honey and chocolate.
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But that's a story for another day... :D
 
You love 80s action movies? Woot! \o/
 
Man, my phone ring is Tango & Cash theme song :D
 
Heh!
Mine was the Miami Vice theme.
But I changed it recently to a piece from Tron: Legacy.
I recently heard the theme on TV, though, in some totally different film and thought my phone was ringing. ;-)
 
2:59 PM
ahah!
 

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