English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

1:00 PM

@KitFox The point is that you are expected to know certain things but not others. It is not you who can decide what is expected of you, as a consumer: there are rules for that.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 No, you are expected to agree to a purchase if you click on Buy.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus why would that be? It's just a click.

Cerberus

Do you remember my suggestion about what I think the criteria will be that a judge looks at?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

How about the law?

I understand that your laws are different. But you don't understand that ours are.

Cerberus

?

I wasn't saying anything about your laws.

KitFox

5

Q: Phrase or word for animal freezing in response to danger

I'm looking for a technical (medical or biological) term for when an animal freezes in response to a perceived danger. This is a pretty well known phenomenon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response), i.e. a deer freezing in the headlights of a car, but I'm having trouble determin...

Well, I guess this must have multicollidered.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:04 PM

34 mins ago, by Cerberus

A judge will reason that, since hardly anyone (there are always exceptions) reads most EULAs, checboxes or no, they don't count as legally binding.

34 mins ago, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus a judge can't reason that as long as there's a law explicitly stating otherwise.

Cerberus

Well, you just don't believe me. I have explained what I know. My parents and my brother are lawyers, so I am not totally ignorant, and I have read parts of this PhD thesis about EULAs in Dutch law.

KitFox

I've gotten a ridiculous amount of rep for a simple answer.

Matt Эллен

people like simple answers

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus I believe you. You don't believe me!

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Why not? A judge can reason in any way he likes. We have "redelijkheid and billijkheid".

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:05 PM

Seriously, today is the International Strange Day or something.

KitFox

Reboots are always controversial, but this was like going into someone's fridge and replacing their hot dogs with photos of yourself masturbating.

Read more: The 6 Worst Marvel Cartoons of All Time | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-worst-marvel-cartoons-all-time_p2/#ixzz1uqhBtnMV

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus a law is not binding for a judge? That's news to me.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 What am I not believing?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 maybe some strange-anti quarks escaped from CERN

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Indeed it is not always binding.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:06 PM

That's just weasel wording.

What does it mean, laws are not always binding?

Cerberus

That's just how it works.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I wouldn't call that "works".

Gigili

What's the opposite of help? As in, "you're not helping me, you're doing the opposite"

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Why do you even need laws if they can be ignored at will?

Gigili

> Help us don't help us.

Cerberus

1:07 PM

If a judge feels that applying a certain law in a certain case would be very "unreasonable", he can ignore it. It is literally worded like that.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

What is literally worded like that? Yet another law?

Cerberus

Of course he would not lightly do so, especially not if there were a very specific law that was clearly intended for a situation like this. But there is no law about EULAs, I believe.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Yes.

Gigili

Thank you for your attention.

Cerberus

The law uses "redelijkheid en billijkheid" as a cornerstone of Dutch law in general.

KitFox

@Gigili Hindering is usually used in this context.

Gigili

1:10 PM

@KitFox Thank you.

KitFox

You could also use "harm," but most times that's implying malice.

Gigili

I see, thanks.

Cerberus

So if parliament adopted a law that said "EULAs are always binding to the letter if a user clicks the checkbox", a judge would in the great majority of cases follow that rule, although he would still ignore it if a case came by where this would be extremely unfair. He would then assume that the law was not intended for this particular, exceptional case.

But there is no such law.

Nothing about EULAs.

KitFox

So I'm looking up the lyrics for the Avengers cartoon theme song (my son keeps asking me what the words are) and in the Recent Questions sidebar of the site: "Was Aristotle born before Jesus Christ?"

cries

Why are people so...argh.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I dunno. Seems like a valid question to me.

Matt Эллен

1:19 PM

@KitFox I have to close this site. I'm laughing too much for an open plan office :D

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Aristotle

Aristotle (, Aristotélēs) (384 BC – 322 BC) was a Greek philosopher and polymath, a student of Plato and teacher of Alexander the Great. His writings cover many subjects, including physics, metaphysics, poetry, theater, music, logic, rhetoric, linguistics, politics, government, ethics, biology, and zoology. Together with Plato and Socrates (Plato's teacher), Aristotle is one of the most important founding figures in Western philosophy. Aristotle's writings were the first to create a comprehensive system of Western philosophy, encompassing morality, aesthetics, logic, science, poli...

Even Wikipedia says that he was born before Christ.

KitFox

What I'm thinking is, if you know who Aristotle is, you ought to know what period of time he exists in, and if you don't, that is something that can be easily checked in a variety of resources.

Why, why, why would you even bother to post it on a Q&A site?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Because, uh, the Q in Q&A makes me?

KitFox

sighs I hate people.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Nobody needs Yahoo Answers. Or Stack Overflow, for that matter.

Heck, nobody needs the Internet.

We made do 25000 years without.

Matt Эллен

1:22 PM

I need Stack Overflow and The Internet. Without them, what am I?

Cerberus

Wow.

That really is a weird question.

KitFox

Hey, I'm not saying that. I'm saying of all the questions to ask, why something that is so easily answerable without going through the trouble of posting it on a Q&A site.

Cerberus

Exactly.

KitFox

That's like when my mom calls me to ask if my brother is coming to visit for Christmas.

WTF? Just ask him.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox you ask that after spending two years on a site where people post questions such as "what does 'spouse' mean?"?

Matt Эллен

1:23 PM

Hey, Kit, Is Cerberus in chat?

KitFox

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I hate those people too.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен Hey Matt, is Matt in chat?

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You should ask Jasper

KitFox

@Reg, would you ask @Matt if @Cerb ever figured out what that map was?

Matt Эллен

I didn't figure it out :(

KitFox

1:24 PM

How can people not understand how to look for information?

This has always confounded me.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus, did you ever tell @Kit if you figured out that map that Vitaly posed you?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox I have a present for you. An actual comment from this very site.

> McDonalds by itself doesn't have an apostrophe AFAIK so I don't know that's a good example. If you were talking about burgers of McDonalds then surely it's "McDonalds' burgers".

Cerberus

@Room, have you gone mad and taken your inhabitants with you?

@Reg, could you please let @Matt know, one way or another, that he may tell @Kit that I did not figure out the map?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus and who are you?

KitFox

"How can we find out how many inches in a meter?"
"Let's Google it."
*types 'inches' into google*
"Shit. Why can't I ever find anything? Google sucks."

Cerberus

1:27 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I don't know any more.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox you do know how many people type "google" into Google?

KitFox

fuck

I hate people!

Cerberus

@KitFox Then what was I supposed to do? Was Googling even allowed?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

44 mins ago, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

People don't even read the Google home page.

Cerberus

I looked at the map. I tried to find a pattern but failed.

KitFox

1:28 PM

@Cerberus Um, sure. But "inches" is not nearly specific enough to get you what you want quickly.

Cerberus

When was the last time you looked at the Google home page?

KitFox

@Cerberus There are two maps overlaid. It is a joke.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus it won't let me nowadays. As soon as I start typing "Google home page", it takes me elsewhere.

Cerberus

A joke?

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Perhaps you should Google your problem.

Vitaly said he had overlaid two maps.

KitFox

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Did you hear that NPR interview where the interviewer asked about the "broken" I'm Feeling Lucky button?

Cerberus

1:30 PM

But that didn't seem to make any sense to me. You know, I am just very bad at riddles.

KitFox

The joke is contained in what the maps represent.

He was being clever.

Cerberus

I never get his other riddles either, like where he gives obscure words.

Nobody could solve those.

And, since I suck at riddles, I stopped trying on the map.

KitFox

Did Reg get it? I think he would understand it pretty quickly. You probably missed it because you are not of that culture.

Cerberus

Could be.

But it is rather that my mind works in a different way.

JSBᾶngs

g'morning people

KitFox

1:33 PM

Holla.

hello!

Hello again!

@Cerberus @Kit

@Reg chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/95?m=4580890#4580890

Did you guess?

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Haha.

KitFox

1:34 PM

Oh, and the hint is that the answer is midnight.

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 oh, that's funny

Cerberus

My mind just blocks. I see a map and that's it.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 What are those blue bars btw?

JSBᾶngs

no maps

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus oh. Hm. Alexa rankings, I guess. I'm not even noticing them anymore. Thought they were part of teh normal goggle.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Don't worry, my Goggle isn't very normal either.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:37 PM

@Cerberus okay now what weirdo shit is that.

Cerberus

It is extremely convenient. No scrolling.

I have a wide screen, so I'm using it.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I don't need to scroll, either. My monitor is more than 300 pixels high.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I see only 8 results on your page.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus having the sixth result higher than the second? Bah.

@Cerberus and you need the ninth, why?

Cerberus

I have ten and plenty of space left in case the results are bigger (which they often are).

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 As I said, I don't want needless scrolling. So I want all 10 visible at once, and the "next" button too.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:39 PM

@Cerberus I have eight and plenty of space left in case I want to do something else other than surf on the Internet all day.

Cerberus

Like what?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Like, having a text editor open. And GIMP.

Cerberus

Pah what good are those?

JSBᾶngs

what this tells you is that when Reg isn't surfing the internet, he's composing LOLcats

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus what do you mean by needless scrolling? What do you mean by scrolling?

JSBᾶngs

1:40 PM

yeah, who reads past the first 4 google results, anyway?

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You need to scroll down if you want to view results 9 and 10, and when you want to go to the next page of results.

JSBᾶngs

if it's not in the top half of the screen, you need better search terms. you're not gonna find it by paging through the results

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus gibberish. Any Dutch judge would dismiss your layout on the grounds of nobody ever looking at more than the top 3¼ Google resutls.

KitFox

I want LOLcats!

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs I often search for stuff that isn't in the first 20 or so.

Matt Эллен

1:41 PM

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus then your google-fu is weak

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Nobody can be reasonably expected to look at more than the first Google result.

Cerberus

It will be in the first 5 results most of the time, but some things are hard to find.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Then you fail at searching.

Cerberus

@JSBᾶngs No, I just Google complicated things that are hard to find.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:42 PM

You should start by googling for bing.

JSBᾶngs

0

Q: A relative clause for “this is an exact duplicate of …”

I wrote the following sentence, but the non-native speaker I am have been corrected: I couldn't find the question this is an exact duplicate of. So here it is. What's wrong exactly? Do I miss a proper relative pronoun (“of which” maybe), or is it the definite article that sounds odd? Someth...

relative-clause

^ voted to close as "too localized", following the comment and following

Cerberus

Like a Greasemonkey script that can change the page title upon load. Try Googling that.

Just an example.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus And why the hell is everything blue?

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 i actually really like bing

KitFox

You would.

:-P

JSBᾶngs

1:43 PM

it's the default in IE, and I don't even bother to change it

Cerberus

I don't know how easy that one is to find. But I am searching for stuff that's hard to find daily.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@JSBᾶngs what's IE?

KitFox

I'm sorry, I could have sworn JSB just said he uses IE.

JSBᾶngs

@KitFox i like pretty pictures

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Makes it easier to intuitively, immediately see where one result ends and the next begins.

JSBᾶngs

1:44 PM

and in fact i use chrome most of the time, but IE is there

KitFox

@JSBᾶngs The satellite maps are prettier.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus if twenty visual cues don't help you, how is a 21st supposed to?

Cerberus

You should try it. It really makes Google "overzichtelijker".

JSBᾶngs

if i'm on a computer that i don't use frequently which still has default IE with default Bing search, i leave it alone. it works just fine for most stuff

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox they are also older. In the Bing world, the Polish President is still alive.

Cerberus

1:45 PM

@JSBᾶngs Agreed.

I mean, so do I.

KitFox

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Really? Bing had a more recent one of our backyard.

Cerberus

Haha really?

Funny.

I do like Bing maps.

It is faster for me than Google maps.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox yeah really. I used it to study the crash site.

Cerberus

And prettier.

Which crash site?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Gah I can't type.

@Cerberus how many Polish Presidents can you name who died in a crash?

KitFox

1:46 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Wow.

Matt Эллен

RegDwight.GetType();

JSBᾶngs

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 only that one who was killed by the filthy russians

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Oh, I missed that bit.

JSBᾶngs

anyway, i have to go now. meeting with psychologists about boy. wish me luck.

Cerberus

Good luck!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:47 PM

Have luck or something.

Matt Эллен

good luck!

Cerberus

Is it bad?

I mean, as long as he doesn't kill cats I'm sure he will be all right.

And even then.

KitFox

@JSBᾶngs Good luck!

Robusto

@Cerberus He may not kill cats, but Catskill Mountains.

KitFox

groan

Robusto

1:51 PM

Hey, cut me some slack.

Cerberus

KitFox

cuts slack for @Robusto

Cerberus

@Robusto Not bad.

Can your computer handle big pictures nowadays I should I remove it?

Robusto

My computer gets the big picture completely.

Cerberus

Unlike you?

Robusto

1:53 PM

No. My computer is a reflection of myself.

KitFox

Like a song?

A song of yourself?

Cerberus

@Robusto I prefer a matte screen.

Matt Эллен

thanks! Oh...

Cerberus

But I understand, you like looking at your own reflection all day long.

KitFox

►

Robusto

1:57 PM

@KitFox "A song beyond us, yet ourselves."

Lick My Decals Off, Baby

Lick My Decals Off, Baby is the fourth album by Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band, released in 1970 on Frank Zappa's Straight Records label. The follow-up to Trout Mask Replica (1969), it is regarded by some critics and listeners as superior, and was Van Vliet's personal favorite. Don Van Vliet said that the title is an encouragement to "get rid of the labels", and to evaluate things according to their merits rather than according to superficial labels (or "decals"). Musicians on the album were Don Van Vliet, vocals; Bill Harkleroad, guitar; Mark Boston, bass; Art Tripp, marimba, drums...

KitFox

Nice.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

^ That's from Google.

Matt Эллен

you're upside down

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

And this is Bing.

Cerberus

Oh wow.

The lighter area was created by the impact?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:59 PM

Yes.

toolserver.org/~geohack/…

Gigili

What's that green arrow? "you're here"?

Cerberus

@MattЭллен He has broad shoulders and a slim waist. And no legs.

Or they are tied together.

@Gigili It probably indicates the location of the result of what you searched for.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Google Maps link.

Robusto

@Cerberus What impact?

Cerberus

@Robusto Of the plane that contained the president of Poland.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:00 PM

2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash

The 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash occurred on 10 April 2010, when a Tupolev Tu-154M aircraft of the Polish Air Force crashed near the city of Smolensk, Russia, killing all 96 people on board. These included the Polish president Lech Kaczyński and his wife, former president Ryszard Kaczorowski, the chief of the Polish General Staff and other senior Polish military officers, the president of the National Bank of Poland, Poland's deputy foreign minister, Polish government officials, 15 members of the Polish parliament, senior members of the Polish clergy, and relatives of victims of th...

Robusto

Is this something that just happened?

Cerberus

It was just an example used by Reg to compare the two map applications.

So Bing is not very up to date in this case.

Robusto

Bing should go back to their LMGTFY strategy.

Cerberus

I do like Bing maps.

KitFox

Are you sure that's from the crash? It looks like a construction site for a new access road.

Cerberus

2:01 PM

Faster and prettier.

@KitFox Hmm...I think you may be right.

Robusto

I like Bing mops because they're disposable.

Cerberus

But in any case it is unlikely that this road was recently removed.

So Bing is less recent.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox first of all, that's where the crash happened. It just did. Second, how is that even relevant? Either way Bing is 2+ years behind.

Robusto

Google has the experience. Bing still has its cherry.

Cerberus

Unless the road was built last week?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:03 PM

0

Q: Tourism nomenclature help

I'm working in a software company working on an information system for travel agencies. Because we've grown big, we've decided to rename our internal project nomenclatore from Czech to English. I think I've translated all names well, with one exception. I will now explain its meaning before prop...

nomenclature

Someone read this for me.

Cerberus

in lɪŋˈgwɪstɪks, 2 days ago, by Cerberus

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus but a green arrow means "two years ago". Don't you know it.

Cerberus

in lɪŋˈgwɪstɪks, 2 days ago, by Cerberus

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Last week would be purple.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Really?

Which map do you like better?

Robusto

2:05 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Someone is random-posting EULAs.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Jasper, get off the doggy.

Cerberus

And which map is faster for you?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto thank you. Now just tell me what to do with it.

@Cerberus there are way nicer maps. There's a project going on right now where you can select your own design. Really nice stuff there. Let me dig it up for you.

Cerberus

Oh!

KitFox

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Wha—? I thought you said the mark was from the crash. Maybe I misunderstood, but yeah, obviously Bing is an older map.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:07 PM

@Cerberus spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-80661.html

Cerberus

(But then Bing is still considerably faster for me, at least in satellite mode like here.)

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox the mark is from the crash and obviously they'd build some kind of road for debris transport.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 there is alot of words.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

But that huge patch of missing forest is from the impact proper.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Oh, the watercolour ones are pretty.

But a very different genre.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:14 PM

0

Q: Pronunciation of the word “reduct” as a noun

How should I pronounce the word reduct as a noun?

pronunciation

Robusto

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto hey! Where's the WTF gone to?

Robusto

I checked it for you.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I think TPTB removed it.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well you're in the pilot seat.

Put in WTF and TL;DR, scrap the rest. Make it so!

Robusto

I'll see what I can do. Got some work shit to clean up before I can get to the fun stuff.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:18 PM

Yeah. Wouldn't want to have you working on a dialog that shouldn't even exist.

Mar 19 at 16:08, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

The default should be, your question is closed, and you have to find at least five people who think it should be opened.

So perhaps you should get started on that one.

¬ WTF, ¬ TL;DR, so many chances for litotae's, go crazy.

KitFox

My windows are fading in and out in slo-mo.

Matt Эллен

what has the doctor prescribed you?

KitFox

It makes me think of an incredibly aged man saying "Is...this... ... ...your...card?"

Matt Эллен

I've read it all, @Reg, even the edit. I don't think we can solve his problem.

KitFox

Sounds like a "name this class for me" question.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:29 PM

Oh. I see. He can't use the only usable word because he already uses it.

Well what alternatives would a thesaurus suggest?

Matt Эллен

booking, perhaps

KitFox

I think "bound capacity" is fine, or maybe "reservation capacity" or simply "capacity." — KitFox 16 secs ago

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

BTW Wiktionary does have an entry for reduct as a noun.

Which is not to say that more context would hurt.

KitFox

thefreedictionary.com/reduct

Matt Эллен

Yeah, I wasn't denying the possibility, I just couldn't use it as one myself

KitFox

2:33 PM

Oh, as a noun.

Dur.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Don't we have a generic question on stress in nouns vs verbs?

We absolutely do.

Gigili

> Someone proposed a "reservation" and for a second, I felt like a total idiot but then [...]

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

5

Q: Why is the verb form of "record" pronounced [ri-kawrd] but the noun form is pronounced [rek-erd]?

Is there a different origin of pronunciation style for record as a verb and as a noun? Fun Fact: in OS X, if you type say "this record" and say "record this" — the text to speech system picks up the difference. Impressive.

etymology verbs nouns pronunciation

And that isn't even the one I mean.

I think I'm thinking of a different one.

Gigili

How can one feel like an idiot for a second? The process takes at least one hour.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

3

Q: What is the proper emphasis for the word "indent"?

Does "indent" carry an accent on the first or the second vowel? I've seen both in IPA. My non-native ear would tend to favor the first.

pronunciation

5

Q: How did "defect" and "defect" come to have different pronunciations?

There are many interesting events in the history of the English language. Which one of them gave us "defect" (N, ˈdēˌfekt, imperfection) and "defect" (V, diˈfekt, change allegiances)?

pronunciation

Bah we actually have tons.

Robusto

2:36 PM

6

KitFox

So we'd know how to pronounce it if it were an word.

Robusto

For @RegDwightB8

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1

Q: What's the reason for the difference in pronunciation between "dispatch" and "dispatcher"?

I checked some online dictionary and found that the pronunciations of p in dispatch and dispatcher are a little different. What's the reason or pronunciation rule for this difference?

pronunciation

Also related.

KitFox

@Robusto Sweet. Perfect. I vote we switch to this.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Bah. Now I have to crosslink them all.

KitFox

2:39 PM

Poor Reg.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Hey, you asked for it. Be careful what you wish for.

Matt Эллен

the thing that takes the availability spot? what? And this can include luggage and dogs?

arglfarglbargl

2

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto I wished for people to post dupes? Not on my watch.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 You still wear a watch? Interesting.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto you mean you dress up like Flavor Flav?

KitFox

2:45 PM

OK, so why would my subnet mask suddenly become invalid?

Matt Эллен

are you at work?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Nonono, I meant something different :) In your example: Family Jones has 4 people plus a dog ... this takes 3 "availability spots". EXACTLY! It TAKES 3 availability spots! Now I want to know how would you call the thing that TAKES the availability spot. It can be a dog, an infant, a child, in some cases even a luggage! — Motig 8 mins ago

Matt Эллен

maybe the office has recycled your IP address or something?

KitFox

It's supposed to be a static IP (for obscure reasons).

Matt Эллен

I don't know enough about tcp/ip to tell you

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

2:47 PM

I know enough about TCP/IP for just one person, so I'm not sharing.

Matt Эллен

availability_spot_taker

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен takor.

Matt Эллен

takor_of_spots

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

$reservator_or_reservatrice

KitFox

reservatrix

and i think it's actually reservatator

Matt Эллен

2:51 PM

You say reservatator I say reservatato

KitFox

I am hungry.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Actually we are all dumb and it's servatator. Obviously he doesn't have to be a recurring customer/dog/luggage.

Robusto

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 That's Flavah Flav. And the answer is no. I have a smart phone. I don't need to wear a watch or a clock.

KitFox

Damn it! It's 11 and I haven't done anything except f-ck up my codez.

And I am supposed to leave early and sleep and wash dishes.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Robusto I don't wear my phone around my neck. Or on my wrist.

Robusto

2:52 PM

@KitFox Does it usually take less time to fuck up your codez?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox ha! it's almost 16 here and that's all I've done too

Robusto

Hell, I can fuck up codez in seconds.

Milliseconds, sometimes.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен Hey you both shut up. Me, I haven't even fucked up my codez.

KitFox

No, it doesn't take that much time. That's my point.

Matt Эллен

lolz

KitFox

2:53 PM

Maybe I could get a little snack and still fix this stuff before noon...

Robusto

@KitFox Well, stop slacking and start fucking up codez sooner. Haven't you any ambition?

KitFox

Then it would look like I was doing something.

And no, I haven't any or I wouldn't be working here.

brb

Robusto

You are doing something. You're fucking up codez. Geez, does no one appreciate programming anymore? Does no one value our most important contribution?

Matt Эллен

sadly, no

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

There are least important contributions?

Mine are always most.

I never even wake up for less than that.

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