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Q: Is there an English word whose meaning refers to 'mind' or 'memory', but whose etymology refers to 'heart'?

CharlieI know that the English language has an expression, 'to know something by heart', that alludes to the heart but whose meaning is 'to know something from memory'. I've discovered that this link between the heart and the memory was something that people believed at least in the 18th century and wa...

 
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Q: The unofficial name of the product before the release

EduardLet's say a company is developing a product and they call it somehow internally, but that name will change in the future if the product is released. The general word for that is temporal name, but I am looking for a more specific professional term. For the last 5 years they have been working ...

 
 
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@KannE I have watched all of Game of Thrones but I don't remember Frosty. What is Frosty? You mean the part where the enemy dragon destroys the wall at the end of 7th season?
I think you mean the melting of the snow, but I wonder when hmm
 
9:35 AM
@Cerberus I hear teaching kids Latin makes them bright.
If I ever have kids I will teach them Latin.
But then I was never taught Latin, so according to my own hypothesis I'm a dumb boy?
So that means I will have dumb kids? I will cry if I have dumb kids.
 
10:28 AM
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Q: to think of something in a different light

DCMI am looking for an adjective: a way to describe an era I am writing about as a "not well understood" precursor to current times.

 
 
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Q: Can’t figure out technique for english quote

HelloI am unsure how to solve this, What technique is used in the quote?, “don’t pretend you know our story”.

 
 
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1:30 PM
@Cerberus My mistake, I thought you were using 'DeepL' to refer to DL in general as opposed to the very recent company. GNMT (which came out in late 2016, and which I was referring to as made a big jump in quality) presumably uses DL of some kind but I don't know exactly what. DeepL, which came out last fall and supposedly does much better (by BLEU metrics), also presumably uses DL (it would be weird to call it 'DeepL' if it didn't use DL).
@KannE What neighborhood was that? Chicago is notorious for having 'borders', where conditions change rapidly across a couple blocks (I lived in Lakeview for a few years, oh also Oak Park where it was shocking how it went from green to gray crossing into Austin)
 
2:11 PM
The left map is about vocab, the right spelling. Blue is more British, red is more American.
 
2:47 PM
Interesting! Figure needs dates tho
(last week vs this week? 1800 vs 2000?)
 
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Q: Word for the distance from the waterline to the top of the hull of a boat

AnushWhat's the word in English for the distance from the waterline to the top of the hull of a boat? In other words, the height of the boat when it is in the water excluding masts etc. The distance from the waterline to the bottom of the boat is called the draught.

 
 
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@bertieb The authors, in preparing that graphic, unfortunately left out of the graphic a key or legend or title or anything really (bad dataviz details; the dot pattern en masse is good dataviz, so it's not consistent)
But anyway to address the problem, it is understood that the 'date' of the data is 'the date of the research' or 'not too long before publication'.
 
Aye, it does look interesting, but any good figure should have the information needed to interpret it (or at least the most important bits!) in it :)
 
Which is to say that the poor labeling led to your (understandable) confusion that the left right was a comparison of earlier vs later date. And that turns out is simply not the case.
 
Oh?
 
left is vocab, right is spelling
 
Ah
Interesting that those are so different
 
4:01 PM
@Mitch What's at point zero or 0? Some kind of English that is neither British nor American?
 
that is, left shows blue is the vocab leans towards britishisms (like 'lorry' instead of 'truck') and the right shows blue if the spelling is more Britishy (like 'colour' instead of 'color')
 
Got lost there.
 
@Izanawistaria Yes. But that, though it seems like a strange thing, is perfectly normal. Some people insist in using '-ise' (Br style) or -ize' (Am style) and some individuals bounce back and forth.
 
Ah yes
What about Australian English? That's closer to British English right?
 
@Izanawistaria The left image is about vocabulary. vocab common in BrE vs vocab common in AmE.
The right image is about british style spelling vs american style spelling
 
4:04 PM
All I remember about Aussie English is that they use "mate" a lot and use "cunt" in a positive sense too!
Like to refer to a buddy who is a close friend.
 
@Izanawistaria Yeah what about it? The article only discussed Am and Br.
 
Nothing, just mentioning it
It is related to 'English' is why
 
Both Canadian and Australian E tend to be a mix in spelling. But the article didn't discuss that, I'm just saying that from what I've heard
 
Got it
 
@Izanawistaria you should continue the study
but using Canada and Australia
 
4:05 PM
@Mitch Yes, it is interesting.
 
good excuse for travel
 
Ah yes, Canada, I forgot
Yep
 
and for getting travel grants
 
I have a very important study design studying the impact of varieties of French in large urban areas on those in Leeward island French Colonies.
i.e. parisian vacation vs Club Med Martinique!
 
4:08 PM
I don't know much about French
 
You don't have to. Just "Un croissant, s'il vois plait"
 
@Izanawistaria Same thing in Glasgow on the latter FWIW, except not solely in the friendly sense- just to refer to a person in general (think instead of 'one' as in 'anyone' with all the other prefixes)
 
@bertieb nods
 
I've heard that the French speaking waiters at high end restaurants use some words differently with patrons than those on Martinique.
 
@Mitch A pastry?
 
4:11 PM
It will require a lot of real life encounters with such waiters in natural circumstances
 
@Mitch I've heard that. Five star hotels too. And spas.
 
@Mitch They must sound sophisticated.
 
Asking questions about a menu and seeing how they reply and exactly what food you get.
 
That means you have to give bigger tips too, right?
 
It'll take a lot of visits
 
4:12 PM
I've also heard there's some interesting vocab reserved for high-rolling patrons in casinos, too.
Alas, it's used sparingly and only with people they've gotten to know over a period of time
 
@bertieb Oh yes good point. Amended. Grant title: "Vocabulary patterns among hotel and restaurant staff/patron interactions in urban French and Caribbean French"
@Izanawistaria I'll include tips in my grant proposal financial request. Wait...I think French waiters and such don't expect tips. I'll have to investigate that too.
 
@Mitch 👍
I've always been interested in this area of research, please let me know if you need additional, uh, research assistants
 
@bertieb Hm... a longitudinal study. It'll require multiple visits over many years
 
(just... not the control group, please :P)
 
@bertieb That's the worst
 
4:20 PM
@Mitch "grant proposal financial request" meaning? Can't parse it.
A 'financial request' or a 'grant'?
Can't be both
 
@Izanawistaria Sounds like he's proposing that you grant his financial request.
 
@Izanawistaria it's a crash blossom for the financial request part of a grant proposal
@Færd nice
how are stackoverflow and Quora considered -social media-? They are informational databases. Sure everything on that graph has features of other things. But what is their primary focus? Info.
 
4:36 PM
@Mitch They are social media sites abused to spread knowledge.
 
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Q: The one who absorbs all hatredness within himself.

SrivatsaThe one who bears all hatredness of others against him and within himself without telling them the real good reason behind his actions which he had done for their wellfare. i.e For example Itachi Uchiah,a character from Naruto anime/manga.

 
I would also consider YouTube a major social medium.
And I'm kinda happy that it rules over FB and Insta and the like.
@Mitch Yeah there are not clear-cut definitions.
 
@Færd so cynical
@Færd not its primary purpose. even though it has chat ... oops... comments
 
People communicate with their audiences via film.
 
so yelp would be social then too
 
4:41 PM
They get all sorts of responses.
 
@Færd advertisers communicate with consumers via billboards
cars communicate with the road through tire friction
 
I'm not saying there is a sharp borderline defining what is what.
 
you know how they say 'cars hug the road'
it's because they are so affectionate
 
But YouTube could be considered a social medium without too much straining.
 
if they drop the streaming
 
4:43 PM
@Mitch And fug the air.
 
@Færd cars breath the combustion-enabling air then cough out their tubercular exhaust.
 
There's this study that counts YT as a social medium and compares it with 4 other major ones in terms of mental health etc: infocoponline.es/pdf/SOCIALMEDIA-MENTALHEALTH.pdf
The result is not too shocking: Instagram is the worst, YouTube is the best.
Shame they didn't count SE in as well. ;)
I can't find the size of their statistical population.
 
@Mitch That blog has both nerd-sniped and tab-exploded on me, thanks :P
 
@bertieb de nada
 
So am I understood saying "YT is a social medium", or do I have to say "YT is a social media site", or what?
 
4:52 PM
@Færd Wait, YouTube is the best? Eeeeek! I can't imagine how bad the rest must be then!
 
You don't sound like you spend too much time on any of them.
Except YT, perhaps.
 
True.
I don't use any of them. Nor do I have much of a desire to.
 
They're all nightmares, as far as my mental stability and focus is concerned.
Except YT, becauase I don't use it as a social medium.
 
I didn't even know it could be used that way.
 
 
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Why?
 
6:48 PM
What is the long pointed flag that is flown on the mast of warships or won in some sports championships called?
It starts with p. Pareen? Parrot? Ugh I don't remember.
 
@Færd pennant?
Sorry, mistyped
Or maybe not. It's also called a pendant in BrE, apparently.
 
@terdon Yes! Thanks.
Also called a pennon.
 
7:06 PM
Huh.
 
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Q: Name for data locked for change

Vadim GalyginHow can I name a boolean thing (yes/no data only) that should show that the all information is locked for changes for users, but admins can change it. I have thought about: locked?, readonly? Is there any better names?

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Q: Which word should i choose in this sntence?

OnestIf you do a good audition/performance you may get onto the show. Is t audition or performance? Which is the right choice?

 
@Færd Gosh, I didn't know Youtube was about social interaction?
I use it only to watch the occasional video, or to play music.
Meanwhile, do y'all have robot vacua yet?
 
Yeah, some people do use like a video version of facebook or twitter.
 
I've just got mine, second hand for €50.
@Færd So the social part is the comments?
 
Pretty much. There's video responses and reactoins too, among other things.
 
7:17 PM
From what I hear, the comments are terrible.
I rarely notice them.
 
Depends on the channel, but yeah, mostly they are low quality.
Some are good for having a laugh tho.
@Cerberus Congrats!
 
I recommend it, so far!
Would you consider one?
 
So they rid you of the trouble of vacuuming altogether?
I'm just guessing what it is based on the name.
 
@Færd Well, I only have it for a week now, but, so far, I don't think I'll be using the regular vacuum cleaner more than occasionally.
I also have a hand vacuum, for small spaces or on furniture etc.
 
Cool! Sounds convenient!
 
7:30 PM
I know, I sound like a bourgeois housewife.
But I want to spend as little time cleaning as possible.
 
By old standars, maybe. :) But that's OK. Even I would engage in occasional housework if my mother didn't do everything.
 
Yay!
She doesn't tell you to do stuff?
 
Mostly outside chores.
 
I see.
 
Sid
@Færd I try to cook...
(stress on "try to")
 
7:35 PM
Nice try!
But keep at it if you like it.
Soon everyone will enjoy the fruit of your labor.
 
Sid
Meh. I dabble. Nothing much
 
Cooking can be fun, when you're in the mood.
 
@Færd Fruit: easiest non-cooking ever
 
@Mitch You could also cook it and partake in some de-nutritioned deliciousness.
 
This latest 'literal' question has gotten me writing another essay on prescriptivism and desriptivism
:44911729 YOU"RE OPPRESSING ME
I added a single quote for emphasis
Am I proving my own point?
 
8:20 PM
Oh-oh. Someone's not familiar with them rulez.
No XKCD in this chat.
Apr 22 '11 at 21:53, by RegDwight
You post another XKCD, I'll kick you again.
May 16 '13 at 17:55, by RegDwighт
XKCD is just another Kim Kardashian. Famous for being famous.
Jul 15 '11 at 19:03, by RegDwight
@MichaelMyers Oh noes, not XKCD. Thus begins the decline of this chat room. It was nice while it lasted.
Oh gee, MichaelMyers. These were the days.
See, he posted XKCD and now nobody even knows who he was.
QED.
Anyway, that's not what I came in here for.
I came in here for to say that @Mitch is a liar.
I just read a long diatribe of his, but then in that long diatribe of his he says that he cut out the long diatribe.
That cannot possibly be true.
Do not lie, children! And don't post XKCD. These are the rulez.
 
@RegDwigнt It's not a lie; it's praeterition.
An elegant figure of speech, to be praised and cherished.
@Sid I'm sure everybody will be glad once privacy is better protected.
Sometimes it takes little sacrifices.
 
8:40 PM
Pfft. Praeterition. And I won't even mention how you like to defend the stupid apophasis.
 
@Izanawistaria You're not on a first name basis with Frosty the Snowman?! Ha-ha, it is all about age, you know. Have a good evening.
 
As to privacy, I'm more of an "information wants to be free" guy.
And I find it hilarious how so many people who shout about freedom of information also shout about privacy and anonymity and encryption. Sometimes in the same breath.
Like "all information must be free; except mine". That's just funneh.
 
@RegDwigнt it was entirely true because I cut like double what exists. And more. So basically a lot
 
What, just one lot?
Dude you had like ten more lots left.
What a greedy person.
 
@RegDwigнt not unlike a little litotes
 
8:47 PM
Everyone likes a little litotes, but nöone likes a smart one.
 
But, and Kmi Kardasgians is a big one,...
She's no smart ass
 
Funny you would say Kardashian, as I was just about to say how I must be off for tomorrow I need to catch a flight to Armenia.
 
@RegDwigнt What's the similarity between those two?
 
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Q: word for compliance/integrity

Matthew ButlerI'm trying to remember a word from a company name, it's about integrity/stringency/risk assessment and making sure that activities comply with regulations and health and safety. The company do risk management for events but I can't remember what the company name is - it includes this word

 
@Cerberus That's my question, yes. They are the polar opposites. You can't be defending both at the same time.
 
8:50 PM
All the Armenian asses are in the US.
You'll miss them there
 
@RegDwigнt Both are in the interest of ordinary citizens as opposed to large organisations.
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Freedom and privacy make oppression harder.
I don't think anyone wants them to be absolute, though.
 
But I cannot be free until I know your name, shoe size, and favorite toothpaste brand.
Y u no want me free.
 
There are some standards by which you can measure degrees of freedom.
But, yes, freedom cannot be absolute.
 
Basically I just watched a video summary of the Cicada 3301 thingie yesterday, so it's fresh in my mind.
 
What's that?
 
8:52 PM
I'm trying to work out a good syllepsis from this sentence and a large turd from my hamsters butt
If only I could work Kim into that and the hamster out
 
@Cerberus it was a riddle posted on 4chan that led to another riddle to another riddle to a book to a location to a website to a book and so forth and it took people years to figure it out and everyone was speculating that it was like recruitment by the CIA or maybe Google.
 
@Mitch You're being quasi-apophatic, said he hybridly.
 
But in the end it was just another group of teenagers obsessed with privacy and freedom of information.
 
Okay.
 
When you solved every riddle and passed every test, they would send you a manifesto via email that you had to sign. It ended in three questions, one of them being "do you believe that information must be free". And it started with the line in all capitals "DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION."
Lemme find it for you. It's like a 20-minute video, you can watch it later, it's quite fun.
 
8:55 PM
How silly of them.
But, again, the fact that people fight for ideal X doesn't mean they want X to be absolute.
Absolutism is rarely a good idea.
 
What's the draw to Armeniastan? Oil fields? Diamond heist? Site visit to evil mastermind subterranean lair?
 
All in moderation.
 
Absolutism all the way
 
People don't want anything to be absolute. Also, people don't even know what they want. And what they do know that they want, they actually don't want once they have it.
Anyway. If you want me to sign a manifesto how information must be free, don't use fucking PGP to send it to me.
 
If you weren't going to Armenia I'd swear you were Oscar Wilde
 
8:57 PM
What's up with Armenia?
 
@Mitch That's not swearing in my book, that's a compliment.
@Cerberus that's what I would like to know.
I am going there for a week. But I have no idea why.
 
Oh, I see.
 
Basically I am going to Armenia to find out why I am going to Armenia.
 
Oh maybe I meant Oliver Twist. I get them confused
 
I'm not even joking, it's true.
 
8:58 PM
Why do you have no idea?
 
Good point. Maybe I should have asked earlier.
Oh you sly dog you.
 
Or is it Eliza whatsehface ... Doolittle? Did too much if you ask me
 
But now it's all booked and shit and there's no return.
Well, there is a return. In a week.
 
Mary Poppins? It's all a blur now
 
It's blurry because it was filmed in the 70s.
Well okay, in 1983. Thank you, Wiki.
 
9:01 PM
Die dulci fruimini!!!
 
@RegDwigнt I was hoping for a chain.
So you have no idea what triggered this plan?
I find that difficult to believe.
 
No, I know what triggered the plan for me. Someone asked me to go.
I don't know what triggered the plan for them, tho.
Basically I am meeting up with all the people in the world that share my surname.
But why in Armenia, fuck knows.
My name does not end in -assian.
 
No comment
 
Wow, really?
 
Yeah
 
9:04 PM
Don't wet yourself, there's only three of us in total in the world entire.
 
I'm all out
 
I believe I spoke about it a few years ago in this room.
 
Nothing either way
 
And I only spoke about it because I believe that information must be free. Including mine. But since you believe in privacy, maybe I should shut up before disclosing my toothpaste brand.
 
Perhaps your ancestor was injected with a gene-altering virus 200 years ago, and now they are ready to use the trigger word to brainwash and reap their slave army?
 
9:06 PM
No no no, you're thinking of Turks.
 
Colgate?
Crest?
 
No. Go on, make my day, try the other 40000.
 
Apparently, they emitted some mass trigger through social media to force you to all come to Armenia. I mean, no non-brainwashed person would go there.
 
Also what the fuck is Crest. Never heard of that.
 
I just want to see the explosion
 
9:06 PM
I think the Turks had other plans with Armenians.
 
@Mitch I think you need to go to the Bikini atoll for that, mate.
 
Bikinis do that for you?
 
Certainly not toothpaste brands
 
@Cerberus Not in Armenia, no. Like, refer to exhibit K. above.
 
Who's Kay?
 
9:09 PM
It's Will Smith's partner.
 
And why is she wearing a bikini? It's goddamn winter in Tasmania.
 
Is that your latest Youtube fetish?
Jinx.
 
That's the best TAS video on YouTube right now. Skip to 16:20, that's where the fun begins.
There. Encoded the timestamp for you. Because I believe that information needs to be free.
 
I tried watching it, but I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
 
9:15 PM
TASbot is a software tool used for speedrunning games faster than any human could.
In this video, however, it is used to play this particular game in a much more artistic way than any human could.
This game is actually self-explanatory. On the left you see questions, like simple math problems and stuff, on the right you can normally use a stylus to write your answer, but the bot is just hooked up to the hardware directly to simulate the stylus.
And so it starts by writing like 9, 18, whatever, like a human would, but then very quickly gets very, um, creative, with his drawings. And yet always in such a way that his answer is still correct.
Watch like ten seconds starting from 16:49 and you'll immediately understand it and also fall in love with it.
 
So how does the game understand its creative answers?
I saw some Japanese character, and a complex mathematical formula.
 
Well, there's just a writing-recognition software implemented in the game. Nothing unusual. Many games do that these days, and most games on the Nintendo DS did that to some extent becaus that was the whole point of that console. That you had a stylus and a touch screen in addition to the usual buttons.
@Cerberus exactly. And the Japanese character means like "19" or whatever, which is the correct answer to that question, and the complex mathematical formula evaluates to like 4, which is the answer to that question.
 
But why would evaluating hand-drawn complex formulae be part of a children's game AI?
 
Well, I've not looked into it, but you know, I believe that in some of these cases they just write whatever, and the system doesn't actually understand that, but then at the very end they write the correct answer, just three pixels wide, or on top of the already drawn pixels.
That'd be my theory anyway.
Of course for some of the answers I totally believe the system actually implements them. Like writing "eleven" in words, be it in English or in Japanese Kanjis, or by writing 10+3 instead of 13.
 
Ah, I see.
I don't think 10+3 would normally make sense as an answer.
 
9:26 PM
That's why it's funneh duh.
Also from a purely mathematical standpoint of course it makes sense.
 
But I would not expect the game's AI to solve mathematical stuff as an answer.
 
Like, "eleven plus two" is even an anagram of "twelve plus one". Wake up sheeple!
So I would totally expect "ten plus three" to be an anagram of either. But I haven't checked.
 
But would you write the game's AI such that it deals with twelve plus one?
 
Would I or would a Japanese person do? Working 40 hours every day?
They have that kind of weird ethos going on in Japanese game development studios. If you listen to Americans that go there for internship they are constantly amazed how much everyone is obsessed with making their current game the best game yet created, and commit seppuku if it is not.
 
Naturally.
 
9:31 PM
Well, according to Darwin that does weed out people who are unfit to write the best game yet created, so you are left with people who actually do write the best game yet created as a result.
 
I'm glad you think this is the best game.
 
No it is not. This one's from like ten years ago. Many more games had to be created since then. All of them much better because otherwise seppuku.
Well, in Japan, that is. If you look over to EA land, they've spent every second of it getting worse.
So actually in America this stupid game probably is the best game of all time as of today. :-D
 
Yay.
I do wonder why so many people buy bad clone games.
With recycled assets and whatnot.
 
It's a habit. Like buying smokes even though you're tired and they don't even taste anymore.
But alas, you bought Madden last year, and the year before that, and the twenty years before that, so you just go and buy the current one.
Oh, and in the recent incarnations they just pull off that shit with online play, where you can't even play Destiny anymore because it came out last year and Destiny 2 is out, so the servers are just deserted, if they haven't been shut down already.
The Western gaming industry took a note from the recording industry. You no longer buy a game, you just buy a temporary right to play it for a while until they come up with the next format change.
There's like three MMOs that have been running forever, WoW, LoL, and WoT, and two of them are shit, and the third one is not far behind. Or ahead, depending on how you look at it.
Anyway, I really gotta go pack the rest of my things and get me some sleep. I'll be on the road for some 14 hours tomorrow.
Take fun and have care.
 
9:49 PM
@RegDwigнt But there are so many good games they could have bought instead!
@RegDwigнt That is indeed one of the big problems.
@RegDwigнt I thought you liked WoT?
It's only 14 hours to Armenia? Surely not?
 
10:07 PM
@Mitch Ha! Love it! Thanks for sharing the flea poem. Oh, and your question--it was San Antonio in the early 90's. We lived next door to a Major. It was nice--we had to buy an edger so the neighbors wouldn't complain about our sidewalk every weekend while we were mowing our yard. We lived a few streets over from our COL, so our kids could go to the same school as hers, but a few streets away on the other side--newish 3-BR homes covered with gang graffiti--"Purple Street"--no dry time.
 
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Q: Word for not just taking credit for someone else's work, but believing that you're also the hero

jeffluntSo, there's taking credit for someone else's work, and then there's a kind of credit taking that is merged with ego in certain way, and I'm trying to find out if there's a word for this. It's when, say, a team of people do 99% of the work to get something done. Then someone else comes along, dro...

 

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