JEE Chemistry Club

Abcd

9:33 AM

Apr 22 at 17:43, by Abcd

Apr 22 at 17:43, by Abcd

Predict SN1 reaction rate.

Apr 22 at 17:44, by Abcd

a) b>a>c
b) c>a>b
c) a>b>c
d) c>b>a

Apr 23 at 6:02, by Gaurang Tandon

@Abcd a>b>c?

Apr 23 at 6:02, by Gaurang Tandon

@Abcd dancing resonance > octet completion > triphenyl resonance

yesterday, by Gaurang Tandon

@Abcd i think you were looking at the S<sub>N</sub>1 reactivity instead; because in the right column - which is what we're supposed to look at - $\ce{ROCH2X}$ is not even mentioned

yesterday, by Gaurang Tandon

@GaurangTandon Here's the full chat context^

We were talking about $\ce{S_N1}$ only

Avnish Kabaj

@Abcd @DivyankaChaudhari Guys I'm terrible

Like in the reshuffling test at our center my rank was 50-57

And only the top 15 get under 500 in Advanced from Kalu sarai

Anonymous

12:24 PM

@AvnishKabaj Don't feel terrible.

Anonymous

Atleast you're in FIITJEE and not in some institute like Allen

Anonymous

Where such tests don't even exist

Avnish Kabaj

No it's just that in the last phase I was 8th

Then I sort of gave up

Too much effort

I should feel terrible

Anonymous

My last test was in March, with rank 9. SO FUNNY. Then I also stopped studying.

Anonymous

And no one believes it

Anonymous

12:30 PM

That I don't feel like studying.

Anonymous

Freak, I'm acting like <what do you call a person who is down>

Anonymous

We didn't have any AITS yet, so I don't even know where I stand. Sigh.

Avnish Kabaj

Sad sad

I'm trying to get my shit together

@GaurangTandon Where did you study Alchohol Ethers and epoxides from?

Anonymous

@AvnishKabaj Ah, good luck with that.

Gaurang Tandon

@Abcd woah I mistook it as SN2 :(

sorry

no wait

Avnish Kabaj

12:44 PM

@GaurangTandon

H@GaurangTandon

@GaurangTandon

It's been 3 pings

Gaurang Tandon

@AvnishKabaj dude I'm trying to be chronological; please wait

Avnish Kabaj

ಠ_ಠ

Gaurang Tandon

Apr 23 at 6:02, by Gaurang Tandon

@Abcd dancing resonance > octet completion > triphenyl resonance

when I wrote this --^ I was talking about SN1; but then later, when you referred me to March, I somehow talked about SN2 instead; proof that I'm half-asleep always :(

getting back to that point, let me think again

Avnish Kabaj

G

Gaurang Tandon

@AvnishKabaj no you aren't

@AvnishKabaj resonance sheet+MS Chouhan; Advanced Problems In Organic Chemistry; 11th ed+nootan chemistry (school boards book)

Avnish Kabaj

12:48 PM

Okie dokie

Ya

@GaurangTandon MsC

I'm not getting every thing

Gaurang Tandon

@AvnishKabaj don't just tie it up and put it at one place in your home, coz, you know...it smells.

Let it loose every morning

Avnish Kabaj

Where should I do the theory from

I read Solomon's frhyles and it is very inadequate

Anonymous

@GaurangTandon I am thinking it to be literal and laughing. Sorry xD.

Gaurang Tandon

@AvnishKabaj i know; msc solution manual is handy, though those were all the resources I had or referred to; if you need one more, take sn sanyal reactions and rearrangements

@DivyankaChaudhari oh, it seems I too took it quite literally :P

Avnish Kabaj

Ok

Looks like I'll have to read all of clayden

Everything is scattered

Sid

12:53 PM

lol, apparently some people are actually challenging that diode question in JEE-M. Sigh

Gaurang Tandon

they are? haha, that's what happens when you forget to use the band gap values :P

Anonymous

44231541 I'm reading the same right now. Whooo.

Anonymous

@AvnishKabaj Is it worth reading it all?

Avnish Kabaj

@DivyankaChaudhari ya

Gaurang Tandon

@AvnishKabaj where'd you read mathjax in titles makes things "sluggish"?

Avnish Kabaj

1:02 PM

@GaurangTandon one of the two posts

Anyway it does on my crappy net

Gaurang Tandon

meh

Sid

Right, so people told me to ask that Coordination Chemistry question on the main site and then nobody answered. Great

Gaurang Tandon

@Sid wait for a day or two, and if no one answers (which is very probably going to be the case), put a bounty

that's how I get answers to the tougher questions

Anonymous

I don't know why some of my messages are never delivered or if they get invisible by magic.

Gaurang Tandon

@DivyankaChaudhari check your network, fault's in your phone/pc/whatever

Sid

1:04 PM

@GaurangTandon Heh, I don't care about Chemistry anymore. My exam is done. It's probably the last time I will ever learn Chemistry.

Gaurang Tandon

oooh, good then

Sid

(And it's not like I have too much rep to sacrifice.. :P)

Anonymous

@GaurangTandon Yeah, I get that. But my Internet is like super fast, so maybe my phone's problem.

Avnish Kabaj

@DivyankaChaudhari there's a 3 second time limit before you can send another message

Anonymous

@AvnishKabaj I get that. Maybe it might be some thing else. Creepy phone :P Useless topic anyway.

Gaurang Tandon

1:11 PM

@Sid duh, ask yourself: what do you even need those 100+ points for? your chem's going to be over as you said, and you'll likely need not ask more than two questions again. just put a +50 bounty straightaway :-)

Sid

@GaurangTandon chat rep. :P

Gaurang Tandon

@Sid :-O

Sid

@DivyankaChaudhari Get an i-phone then. :P

Anonymous

iDisagree

Avnish Kabaj

@DivyankaChaudhari Da dum Da dum

Anonymous

1:21 PM

@AvnishKabaj You are speaking gibberish now? :P

Avnish Kabaj

@DivyankaChaudhari ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

(╯°□°)╯︵

Avnish Kabaj

1:36 PM

@DivyankaChaudhari where's the table

Anonymous

(╯°□°)╯彡┻━┻

Avnish Kabaj

@DivyankaChaudhari better

Anonymous

◉_◉

Abcd

4:01 PM

3 hours ago, by Gaurang Tandon

getting back to that point, let me think again

Thought or not?

Abcd

4:22 PM

@GaurangTandon Blank Ping

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Q: SN1 reactivity order for chloromethyl ether and trityl chloride

Compare the reactivity order towards $\ce{S_N1}$ reaction for: a) Cyclopropylethyl chloride b) $\ce{CH3OCH2Cl}$ c) $\ce{Ph_3CCl}$ Owing to the exceptional stability of cyclopropyl ethyl carbocation (see), obviously it should be on the top. We did this question in class and ...

Gaurang Tandon

Wow my memory is dumb

Tomo morn, promise

Abcd

Triphenyl carbocations are propeller shaped [Fact]

JavaScriptCoder

4:37 PM

define propeller shaped

Abcd

Is it chiral?

I guess it is.

JavaScriptCoder

just did it in molview

which is remarkable good, for an open-source 2-D/3-D molecular editor

Abcd

@JavaScriptCoder hmm

JavaScriptCoder

@Abcd looks chiral to me

Avnish Kabaj

No it's not

JavaScriptCoder

4:45 PM

@AvnishKabaj theres clockwise and counter-clockwise orientation

Anonymous

It is Chiral

Avnish Kabaj

@JavaScriptCoder I fail to see how that matters

Anonymous

Also a perfect example that carbon needn't be connected to four substituents.

JavaScriptCoder

@Mr. Cabbage well, why don't you try to superimpose them on each other, sir?

Avnish Kabaj

@JavaScriptCoder ya

I did

JavaScriptCoder

4:58 PM

show me

Avnish Kabaj

10/10 works

@JavaScriptCoder how do I show you

JavaScriptCoder

draw it or something

Anonymous

@AvnishKabaj Doesn't work

Anonymous

In different planes

Avnish Kabaj

The wedged dark thing means that the benzene is perpendicular to the plane right

JavaScriptCoder

5:02 PM

no

at an angle

see my 3-D rep

Avnish Kabaj

@JavaScriptCoder then it's chiral

Man Java

Back when i was your age we used Yahoo answers

answers.yahoo.com/question/…

JavaScriptCoder

how do you know how old I am

@AvnishKabaj now I'm scared of you

Avnish Kabaj

@JavaScriptCoder you told us that you're in 8th grade

JavaScriptCoder

so?

i could be 12, 13, 14, 15 whatever

Avnish Kabaj

@JavaScriptCoder wait are you even younger than an average 8th grader

JavaScriptCoder

5:13 PM

why should I tell you?

Avnish Kabaj

Whoa whoa

Calm down bud

JavaScriptCoder

(although you can set a lower bound by looking at the ToS)

Avnish Kabaj

@JavaScriptCoder Tos?

JavaScriptCoder

Terms of Service

Avnish Kabaj

I don't care how old you are

The joke would still have been funny if you were a year younger than me

Sid

5:19 PM

@JavaScriptCoder if you are 12, you shouldn't be here in the first place. :P

JavaScriptCoder

exactly

Anonymous

I'm 11

JavaScriptCoder

@DivyankaChaudhari your account's getting banned right...

now

(its in the ToS that you can't be under 13 or something)

your reputation is now locked at 1 rep

Sid

@DivyankaChaudhari You shouldn't be in SE. :P

Anonymous

Damn

Sid

5:32 PM

(Or if you are under 13, don't tell anyone. No one's going to know if you don't tell them. :P)

Avnish Kabaj

Too late I flagged for mod attention

kishea

hello

Avnish Kabaj

Hello there

Mithrandir

@DivyankaChaudhari I'm not entirely sure this was serious.

But I'm going to say: Don't joke about it.

You could end up with your account getting deleted.

If you are 11, then you're very smart, and it'd really be a shame to delete your account.

nitsua60

@JavaScriptCoder It's also not helpful to claim to be taking moderation actions--it's added a bit of noise to this channel. Please refrain from that in the future.

Anonymous

5:45 PM

@Mithrandir Okay. No. Sorry.

nitsua60

(Though you're correct, of course, that an 11 year-old user would be in violation of ToS.)

Anonymous

I'm not 11 ;-;

Mithrandir

So please don't say you are.

Avnish Kabaj

Ok I didn't flag it

Anonymous

Didn't know that the moderators super team would come over

Avnish Kabaj

5:47 PM

It's smokey

Thomas Ward

@DivyankaChaudhari someone flagged it in chat. All diamonds are pinged from the chat flag as a result (not just on chemistry.se). (It sometimes results in a diamond storm)

Mithrandir

(And I really really hate when underage accounts are deleted.)

(Unfortunately, it's required.)

DJMcMayhem

@DivyankaChaudhari At first I believed you, and then I went through some of your answers on the main site, and for a few seconds I thought you were some 11-year-old super genius child prodigy :P

3

Anonymous

Okay, I would NEVER do that again. This all seriously freaked me out.

Anonymous

Stuff like this happens.

Mithrandir

5:50 PM

Wonderful :D. You've learned your lesson. Class's over, kids!

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem Not a prodigy at all. Just a high school student who is well above 13

DJMcMayhem

I'm just a lousy chem 101 student :/