@UlrikeFischer This font is “OK” (whatever that means). The range of supported glyphs is adequate, there is just no script and no Fraktur, yet. To sensibly typeset documents you at least need the regular and bold weights in design size text. If you have a lot of maths it might make sense to get the basic set which contains regular weight in sizes text, caption, and tiny and bold weight in size text.
About Optical Sizes
You said that you do not get the difference between optical size and weight. It is very simple. With weight a typographer means the thickness of the strokes which make up a glyph. A glyph with thicker strokes has more weight than one with thin strokes. Common weights are ...
To see Minion Math in action you could have a look at my lecture notes on solid state physics which I typeset just for fun with Minion Math: http://www.henrimenke.com/skripte/ExPhys6-MN.pdf (the overfull boxes are deliberate because linebreaking was optimized for a different layout and font. The original is http://www.henrimenke.com/skripte/ExPhys6.pdf)
@UlrikeFischer If you want to provide the font as part of your services to customers, I am open for collaboration.
@MarianoSuárez-Álvarez don't do this!!!!! It's a TeX primitive (height) used for specifying heights of things like boxes etc. Catastrophic is too mild a word. :)
@UlrikeFischer some disciplines use bold more than others eg for vectors, although if you only need mathbf you can of course just use a matching text bold font, bold math symbols are rather rarer I think
@DavidCarlisle Yes but such bold symbols should be already in the regular math font. I don't think that I have from any math font a bold version amd questions about it are quite rare so I don't quite see why it should be needed badly. Apart from the occasional math in a section title where would you use it?
@UlrikeFischer ther are very few bold symbols in the unicode math blocks apart from the alphabetic blocks? If you need a bold integral or summation or whatever you need a bold math font don't you?
@UlrikeFischer I've seen papers with people using different partial orders and use every kind of less-than they can find, and generally category theorists are fond of using different font for morphisms in every category, basically the people who run out of math \fam in classic tex:-)
@DavidCarlisle It isn't the case here, but beside this: How would you use single symbols from a bold open type math font in a \mathnormal context? Imho a bold math font is only meant for the overall switch to \mathbold.
@UlrikeFischer yes I was going to say that I suspect that the way bold is structured in unicode probably means that such use, which was already rare gets even rarer. If you do have a full unicode math font and a full bold version of the same then \bm could work as in classic tex switching to the bold while preserving the math class, or you could make all symbols mathvar so \mathbf would switch to the math \fam and all symbols would go bold, but in practice this doesn't happen.
@DavidCarlisle Ah. Now I understand. I had completly forgotten the \bm angle ;-). If someone had a bold math open type font would it be easy to adapt bm to switch locally?
@UlrikeFischer well it would work but I can't quite recall where the public version got to tracking luatex's entertaining way of reporting mathchar numbers as Umathchar triples and/or Umathcharum big numbers.
@UlrikeFischer at one point it worked then there were a series of luatex releases where it broke I think it is working again now but there aren't many bold fonts and for most people unicode-math's \symbf covers what they need so i haven't looked recently
@UlrikeFischer If your math is so simple that you don't even need a bold math font, you can probably get away with using the text font for math. For the symbols you could use a font with comparable weight and shape, like Libertinus Math.
@HenriMenke Oh I was prepared for that, since it's ABNT. :) And the most amusing thing is that they do not have the concept of serif/sans serif fonts, only specific font names. :)
@HenriMenke It was way more terrifying: I almost was forced to typeset the entire thesis (with lots of maths) with a sans serif font.
@HenriMenke I had no choice, the document is evaluated beforehand. Thankfully I mitigated some effects of ABNT by investing on good typography. :)
\documentclass{article}
\pagestyle{empty}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{amsthm}
\newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\setmainfont{Minion Pro}
\setmathfont{Libertinus Math}
\setmathfont[range={up}]{Minion Pro}
\setmathfont[range={it}]{Minion Pro It}
\setmathfont[range={bfup}]{Minion Pro Bold}
\setmathfont[range={bfit}]{Minion Pro BoldIt}
\setmathfont[range={}]{Libertinus Math}
\setmathrm{Minion Pro}
\begin{document}
\begin{theorem}[Residue theorem]
Let $f$ be analytic in the region $G$ except for the isolated
@UlrikeFischer If you only ever need bold letters you could get away with the single Minion Math Regular.
@HenriMenke yes so I see, I wasn't following the full thread but I thought that you were saying that you need a full bold font (so that for example you could get bold summations and integrals not just the bold letters in the unicode math alphabet block)
@DavidCarlisle You only need the bold font if you want bold everything.
@UlrikeFischer I quickly generated the unimath-symbols for Minion Math Regular, so you can get an overview of what is available: transfer.sh/IfWQA/unimath-symbols.pdf
@HenriMenke that's what I was discussing with @UlrikeFischer, in some areas you use bold for individual symbols more than others, but hopefully the Unicode bold ranges cover most of that, but I have seen people use \bm{<} etc to get distinguished orderings
@PauloCereda You could as well write my story about a little underduckling who tries to help his smart but sadly blind duck. At present duckuments has only 4 paragraphs. That's no competition for lipsum's 350.
So, last week I posted a challenge to play Duck, Duck, Goose. This lead to a number of Minnesotans commenting about their regional 'Gray duck' variation.
So here's the rules:
Using this list of colours:
Red
Orange
Yellow
Green
Blue
Indigo
Violet
Gray
Write a program to follow these rules:
...
@PauloCereda the makeindex rule of arara just gave me a heavy shock. I wanted to get the index of an adx-index and it mixed the idx-entries into it ...
@DavidCarlisle A very specific quirk in that there is no option I could find to autofill a column to the remainder of the \textwidth was annoying me for over a day
I had to settle by defining the last column as p{\textwidth - #sumofallpreviouscolumns - #numberofallcolumns*4.2mm}
@PauloCereda The call looks basically like this % arara: makeindex: {options: "-o test.and test.adx"} (can one use @{getBasename(file)} here?) and this calls then makeindex -o test.and test.adx test.idx and so loads both source files.
@Magisch doesn't it look like that to all of us? \expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\futurelet
And the infamous error messages like:
! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}.
See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
...
l.6 \begin{document}
@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- it's quite amazing. i'm not a mathematician, but in earlier assignments for the math society i've gotten to meet such a lot of stellar mathematicians, and keep reading about them when they win prizes. langlands was one such. thanks for the news.
@UlrikeFischer -- i guess i'm weird. when i start reading a (nonfiction) book, i often scan the index before reading much of the prose beyond the introduction. but of course, that's after it's published, so it's too late for the author to do anything.
@daleif you could modify includeonly so that labels set in non-included files were marked in some way then modify \ref to use the non linking \ref* form for any such labels (but ignoring the warning is easier)
@DavidCarlisle the annoying bit is that if you are fixing stuff from further up the log (I use latexmk -pvc) then you have to scroll pass that list of dest warnings and it can sometimes be very long. Good part: my experiments from last summer still works and thus I can get my reimplementation of fancyref's \Fref to work with bookmarks....
@UlrikeFischer Sorry for the delay, Urlike. I was fixing some bibliographic things around here. I will port this syntax to the newer one (featured in version 4). I suspect the problem was in the options scheme. I will do a lot of tests later on.
@PauloCereda no hurry it works okay for me now. But the rule should be improved -- they are people around with more than one index (and which don't use imakeidx ...). Btw: the main problem is naturally that makeindex accepts the syntax makeindex file.adx file2.bdx file3.idx and then use all three files as input.
@daleif actually an easier solution would be to change include so when it is inputting an aux file for a non-included file it locally defined \newlabel so that it makes a hyperref anchor at that point, then all such trailing links will jump to the point in the main doc where the section has been skipped
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle @egreg Is that one known yet? Don't want to dig deeper right now.
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.18 (TeX Live 2017) (preloaded format=pdflatex)
restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./elassusL3stuff.tex
LaTeX2e <2017-04-15>
Babel <3.18> and hyphenation patterns for 84 language(s) loaded.
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2014/09/29 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
(/usr/local/texlive/2017/texmf-dist/tex/latex/invoice/invoice.sty
This is an error in the way invoice.sty accesses fp it has
\input{fp}
If you edit a local copy to say
\RequirePackage{fp}
then it works (my local copy was already edited, which probably means this question is a duplicate and i was answering before...)
This is a bug, and had nothing to do with graphicx per se. Inside the invoice package you find
\input{fp}
and inside fp.tex you find
\def\NeedsTeXFormat#1{}
\def\ProvidesPackage#1[#2]{}
\def\DeclareOption#1#2{}
\let\ProcessOptions\relax
Both of these are wrong: input should use the fp LaTeX...
There has been a very significant change to casing behavior for the Georgian script. A new set of Mtavruli capital letters (U+1C90..U+1CBA, U+1CBD..U+1CBF) has been added to Unicode 11.0.0, with case mappings to the existing Mkhedruli letters (U+10D0..U+10FA, U+10FD..U+10FF). In prior versions of the Unicode Standard, Mkhedruli Georgian was considered to be a monocameral (non-casing) script, and the Mkhedruli Georgian letters were gc=Lo. Starting with Version 11.0.0, those Mkhedruli Georgian letters are now gc=Ll, and have uppercase mappings to Mtavruli Georgian capital letters. This change…
@Skillmon Sorry but I'm on the emacs side of the editor wars. :) But the code has uncovered a bug in TeXShop, however. Presumably in the syntax colouring code.
U+0074 LATIN SMALL LETTER T t
U+0069 LATIN SMALL LETTER I i
U+006b LATIN SMALL LETTER K k
U+200c ZERO WIDTH NON-JOINER ‌
U+200b ZERO WIDTH SPACE ​ ​ ​ ​ ​
U+007a LATIN SMALL LETTER Z z
@Skillmon if I delete the zero widths chars it works if you ignore missing document and undefined \normalsize (but I think that is possibly not allowed)
@DavidCarlisle But if you'd used VIM you'd have seen those characters, because VIM is nice and shows them in a distinguishable way. Your stupid OS just hides them from you.
@Skillmon actually they were visible of you look at the code in the buffer rather than just trusting some random rabbit on the internet and running it unseen.
@DavidCarlisle don't blame me. Blame the developers of this site. It only happens after posting it here. Copying from VIM into another instance of VIM (so also using the X clipboard) works just fine.
@DavidCarlisle Replacing the \end{document} in the ducks code with \stop yields an illformed PDF which crashes both TeXShop and Skim. Any reason why this should happen?
@JosephWright I had flagged this answer earlier as not an answer, but now it is. I don't know if flags expire, but in case you can undo it, it no longer needs converted to a comment.
@AlanMunn its a bit odd \stop is an abbreviated \enddocument but mostly it skips closing the aux properly and re-reading it to check for undefined references etc, as far as I cab see just looking again in the sources, it doesn't do much different to teh final typeset output, they basically both do \clearpage\@@end
@Dr.ManuelKuehner I realize that for longer answers the usage of bold/italic can improve the readability, however don't think this is necessary for a one-sentence answer.
@RandomDSdevel in principle of course you could run bibtex in a debugger but then you'd be tracing the C generated from web/pascal so a long way from the natural flow of the stack based bst language so I doubt it would be very informative
@DavidCarlisle Right. I doubt that would help, too.
One would want to see how BibTeX does, not examine its entrails.
@UlrikeFischer I was slightly annoyed by result of taking the recommendation by ctan.org/tex-archive/info/simplified-latex?lang=en to just use BibTeX's plain style (listings of multiple authors put in the MLA format look spiffier to me, though that could partly be due to the fact that I used versions MLA throughout middle and high school.)
So I thought modifying one or more of the base BibTeX styles to have MLA-like multiple-author listing without looking for a full-blown MLA BibTeX style (couldn't need it for a tutorial) wouldn't be too hard. I'm still digging myself out of that rabbit hole, as you can see.
@DavidCarlisle It's either that, alpha.bst, or unsrt.bst (I'm actually leaning towards the last of these since the tutorial's exercises don't lend themselves to having the reader produce very big documents and it seems to me that small documents could, at least for some readers, possibly benefit from having bibliography entries fall in the order they were cited in main text.)
@RandomDSdevel ordering in order of citation seems popular given questions here. It always seems a bit strange to me, I suppose it's just conventions in different subject areas. I'm pretty sure back when i was reading and publishing math papers they all had references in alphabetic order of authors
@DavidCarlisle That makes sense for texts longer than a page, bibliography included on that first and only page or not, since it helps with mental indexing, but it seems like it would involve a small amount of overkill for something that would only be kept around as an example to jog one's future self's memory, if that, Other than that, your guess is as good as mine.
About Optical Sizes
You said that you do not get the difference between optical size and weight. It is very simple. With weight a typographer means the thickness of the strokes which make up a glyph. A glyph with thicker strokes has more weight than one with thin strokes. Common weights are ...
This is a bug, and had nothing to do with graphicx per se. Inside the invoice package you find
\input{fp}
and inside fp.tex you find
\def\NeedsTeXFormat#1{}
\def\ProvidesPackage#1[#2]{}
\def\DeclareOption#1#2{}
\let\ProcessOptions\relax
Both of these are wrong: input should use the fp LaTeX...
