The Nineteenth Byte

mbomb007

4:00 PM

@J.Sallé icons 2/3 are hurricane symbols

Pavel

@Fatalize I second this.

I didn't have time before, but something like that would be awesome.

mbomb007

@J.Sallé After some searching, the circle with dashes inside is probably a default temperature icon, where the dashes would be replaced with digits.

J. Sallé

@mbomb007 ah, I see. I wouldn't have known the hurricane one though, that kind of stuff doesn't really happen where I live :p

mbomb007

Nor where I live, but I knew it from school and from learning about what to do during disasters.

I think the news often shows that symbol over radar of a hurricane, too

J. Sallé

@mbomb007 yeah those 'classes' for me were usually summarized with "Duck and pray."

mbomb007

4:07 PM

I learned in Boy Scouts. There can be preparation, like sandbagging, boarding windows, etc.

J. Sallé

Would've been good to get some of that knowledge, although here the only natural disasters that have ever happened were politicians.

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Q: Rebuild a rectangular array from a corner

I once had a beautiful rectangular array. It was very symmetrical, but unfortunately it has fallen apart and now I only have the top left corner. Your task will be to rebuild the original array. Your program will receive a 2 dimensional array of integers. For ease of parsing, you may assume they...

Pavel

@NewMainPosts I'm expecting a ≤3 byte APL solution

DJMcMayhem

Anyone have thoughts on the new featured mother meta post?

Poke

4:26 PM

@DJMcMayhem very similar to mad scientist's comment, honestly

asking for 4 auto-flags may be more well-received but you still run into the issue where the bot is flagging as real mods

caird coinheringaahing

@NieDzejkob It seems as though there is a problem with the parser. This is how it's tokenised, and it has no problem when the refs are different. I'll take a look at it

DJMcMayhem

@Poke What do you mean flagging as real mods?

caird coinheringaahing

Andy is a mod on SO IIRC

@NieDzejkob Corrected, the tokeniser was deduplicating the tokens on each line

NieDzejkob

4:47 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Whaat? Why would you want to do that?

caird coinheringaahing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I can't remember

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem I'm looking at your recent V answer and I noticed it starts with y. Does y do anything when nothing is selected or does V select the input text by default?

NieDzejkob

@Pavel it's either <selection>y or y<movement>... at least in Vim

Pavel

@NieDzejkob In the solution, the next character is j, which isn't a movement.

caird coinheringaahing

@NieDzejkob It was in the original commit, so I really can't remember :P

NieDzejkob

4:50 PM

@Pavel j moves down

Pavel

@NieDzejkob Right, I was thinking of Join.

DJMcMayhem

5:04 PM

@Pavel What NieDzejkob said

Join is J

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem Are you going to write an explanation?

Poke

5:50 PM

@DJMcMayhem It isn't flagging as a bot account or something... it's flagging as if it was a flag made by an actual moderator, right?

DJMcMayhem

6:17 PM

@Pavel Sure, but it'll have to be later

@Poke It's flagging with user accounts that have signed. (Mine for example) so when it finds a post it's reasonably sure is spam, it'll log in to my account and flag it without me needing to do anything (if my account is picked. It's random each time). That can't and won't happen on sites where someone is a mod

So my account might be randomly selected for any spam across the network, but if it's on PPCG, then it can't be picked

(because if a mod red flags a post, i.e. spam or rude/abusive, it will be deleted by community automatically)

Poke

That's what I mean. I think it would be better to have dedicated accounts assuming SE is okay with it

also i'm curious how it logs in to your account. surely you don't have a big password repo somewhere

does SE have apis for moderator tools?

DJMcMayhem

@Poke I don't know the details, but I think it's oauth tokens (I don't know what those are, don't ask)

Poke

I'm familiar with them and that makes a lot more sense

Conor O'Brien

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Find relevant digit groupings code-golf number functional-programming Recently, my reputation was 25,121. I noticed that each digit grouping (i.e. the numbers separated by commas) was a perfect square. Your challenge is, given an integer N and a unary boolean Black Box Function f : Z → B , yie...

planning on posting this, any thoughts?

Anonymous

6:33 PM

Some clarification on Charcoal/Smokey: users authorize the project to autoflag on their behalf. This authorization is done using OAuth tokens, not passwords. Users can set their custom thresholds for when their flags are used. Users are selected for autoflagging randomly, with a higher preference given to core project members (active with a certain feedback threshold). A user will never be selected for any site they don't have enabled, or any site where they are a moderator.

Anonymous

Having a single bot account casting flags would be better (and SE agrees - it's been brought up a few times), but would require significant work on SE's part, so it hasn't happened yet.

Poke

gotcha, thanks for the clarification

Anonymous

Glad to help

Anonymous

FWIW, I'm all for increasing the autoflagging count, but I'm a Charcoal core member, so I've drunk the Koolaid :P

DJMcMayhem

@Mego Would you be for it if we removed user flagging?

I've been wondering the same thing myself

Anonymous

6:40 PM

@DJMcMayhem You mean casting autoflags from a bot account (that had magic multi-flagging powers), or unilaterally nuking posts?

DJMcMayhem

The former (or 5 bot accounts)

Anonymous

Yes. I think that's better than user flags: the bot can withdraw flags with a single command, rather than needing to ping people

Anonymous

sd unflag would be much better than @people plz unflag

DJMcMayhem

True

But it would remove the "reward" of badges and stats for participating in charcoal

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing

Poke

you could argue that mods shouldn't get those rewards anyway

since they're doing their jobs

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6:48 PM

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Q: Find relevant digit groupings

Recently, my reputation was 25,121. I noticed that each digit grouping (i.e. the numbers separated by commas) was a perfect square. Your challenge is, given an integer N and a unary boolean Black Box Function f : Z → B , yield a truthy value if each value of f applied to the digit groupings of N...

code-golf number functional-programming

DJMcMayhem

@Poke Well, I'm not a mod any where else, and I don't get autoflags on PPCG

Poke

that's fair. i was mainly saying for the sake of argument. rewards are fun even if it is your responsibility :]

Anonymous

Also mods don't get any badges related to flagging/moderation (other than the mod-specific flag)

Anonymous

Had I not gotten Marshal before becoming a mod, I wouldn't get it at all

Anonymous

(I think)

Anonymous

6:54 PM

I haven't had any more helpful flags since becoming a mod, but I also haven't cast any flags since becoming a mod :P

Anonymous

I just use my buttons

Erik the Outgolfer

then how do you delete spam ;P

Anonymous

With the big red nuke button

Erik the Outgolfer

which, IIRC, is a flag

Anonymous

I meant destroying the user :P

Anonymous

6:57 PM

Also I rarely get a chance to see spam posts before they're nuked - our community is really good about flagging spam quickly

Anonymous

I just clean up afterwards

Anonymous

Well, s/I/we

Erik the Outgolfer

I don't think it's just our community, there's Charcoal too ;)

@Mego ah, sometimes that is not done right away and the user is given a second chance...not sure why though

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer Not sure either - I haven't seen that. I guess it could be due to the difference between blatant spam and unintentional excessive promotion

Erik the Outgolfer

I think it's because such posts are usually deleted by flags and mods don't bother then, leaving the user account undeleted

Anonymous

7:01 PM

Like users who forget (or don't know) to disclose their affiliation vs pharma spam

Erik the Outgolfer

and that's status-bydesign, given that the punishment for spam is -100 rep and not account deletion rightaway

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer IIRC they get cleaned up automatically eventually

Poke

@Mego don't forget your trailing slash

Anonymous

@Poke It's implicit in the dialect I'm using, called "Mego Always Forgets The Trailing Slash So It's Implicit"

Poke

I should use that one

moonheart08

7:06 PM

s/It's implicit in the dialect I'm using, called "Mego Always Forgets The Trailing Slash So It's Implicit"/I'm lazy./

Erik the Outgolfer

why'd you assume laziness and not just forgetfulness...

Pavel

@Mego If you include the trailing / in discord, it'll actually stick the / onto the end of the replacement.

moonheart08

because i don't use a trailing slash. :P

Now, back to being angry at the telnet protocol (So many commands ;-;)

J. Sallé

@Pavel TIL discord accepts s/ replacements

Pavel

I'm told Skype for Mac accepts arbitrary Sed

NieDzejkob

7:10 PM

@Pavel someone pls valid english+sed polyglot

moonheart08

Question: Why is it so hard to find non RFC documentation on the telnet control codes

DJMcMayhem

@Mego It's possible, just difficult

Wheat Wizard

7:26 PM

It's not even hard, most of the moderation badges asside from the 3 specifically about flagging are not made harder by being a moderator as far as I can see.

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Q: Is this a truncated triangular number?

Related OEIS sequence: A008867 Truncated triangular number A common property of triangular numbers is that they can be arranged in a triangle. For instance, take 21 and arrange into a triangle of os: o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o Let's define a "truncation:" cutt...

code-golf decision-problem number-theory integer

DJMcMayhem

7:37 PM

@WheatWizard True, I just meant flagging badges are harder

Wheat Wizard

Ok sure. You are almost certainly correct there.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Lead or Follow answer-chaining descision-problem restricted-source In this challenge you are to write a program or function, that takes a string as input and outputs one of two possible values. For an answer to be valid it must meet three additional criteria When you pass your program to its...

DJMcMayhem

But it's still possible.

Wheat Wizard

I posted this during off hours. I thought I would just make it seen during the on hours.

DJMcMayhem

Technically, if I really wanted that badge and was ok gaming the system, I could flag everything right before handling it regularly

Erik the Outgolfer

you wouldn't have just gamed the system, but also annoy the rest of us ;)

Pavel

7:47 PM

$ read --help
read: bad option: -h

Erik the Outgolfer

man read?

Pavel

So it knows that --help is actually -h but still doesn't do anything with it.

@EriktheOutgolfer That brings up the generic manual page for bash builtins. `which read` --help works

Erik the Outgolfer

bash? then you want help read

Pavel

@EriktheOutgolfer zsh actually.

read behaves the same way I belive

caird coinheringaahing

@Pavel What is your avatar supposed to be?

Erik the Outgolfer

7:52 PM

then you would need man zsh and then /read and then / repeatedly until you find it, since that's what the shell uses

DJMcMayhem

@EriktheOutgolfer How would that annoy you? (Not that I'm planning on doing that)

Erik the Outgolfer

deprivation of the ability to count helpful flags in our flag history

DJMcMayhem

No, if I saw a flag, added my own additional flag, and then handled it regularly, you'd have your flag marked helpful

Erik the Outgolfer

if you are first to handle then we would be FGITW'd away though :/

that's what I'm referring to

DJMcMayhem

Sure, but that would be true regardless of if I flagged it or not

Pavel

8:02 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing It's a chibi of Tachanka from Rainbow 6 Siege

I'm actively looking for a different one, it was supposed to be temporary for the duration of hats

Poke

@Pavel here you go

Erik the Outgolfer

@ASCII-only codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/157285/…

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