Charcoal HQ

!!/test-a onlineitguru.com

> Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer
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Body - Position 1-13: onlineitguru
Body - Position 1-17: onlineitguru.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: java api send email to another person-Android Studio by Luís Carneiro on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

doppelgreener

... metasmoke is having a sneeze

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/306502/350567

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Dilemma after someone else edits a spam post by alia0arora on meta.SE (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

doppelgreener

11:07 AM

@SmokeDetector ... how is that spam?

oh :P

now i see

they just copied + pasted the start of the question

@doppelgreener I reported.

tpu- by doppelgreener

doppelgreener

@iBug yeah, i saw :) i was very confused

i was sure you'd have a good explanation, but i wasn't seeing it

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL body, blacklisted website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Get a Better Health via Improving Stamina by sadmalizer on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by doppelgreener

@iBug Did you draw a conclusion from that meta post, by the way?

11:19 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: This extension cut back in gat a charge by Magar essed on drupal.SE

tpu- by suraj

@Cerbrus Nope. Waiting for more ideas.

Basically: never ever edit out spam.

In fact, I'd (we'd) rather see edits like that reverted, so they get flagged quicker.

What about NSFW link porn or virus?

If it's some regular spam like Testosterone Boost, I would definitely roll it back

In fact, few people edit out this boost or that maxx spam

@iBug Don't edit. Flag.

And revert

An censored spam post will just end up getting down/delete votes instead. That way, the user isn't "punished"

OK.

If you don't mind, vote Journeyman Geek's answer up.

That makes it a "consensus"

11:27 AM

I already did

And added a comment

I accepted it.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Js broken in Backend Magento 2 by Charm Edward on magento.SE

BTW, are you the author of FIRE? @Cerbrus

tpu- by A J

Is the reason behind not implementing rude/abusive flag the lack of support from MS?

11:30 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, +2 more: musclebuildingbuy.com/test-re-gen/ by janyik on askubuntu.com

tpu- by A J

I tried adding R/A flagging support by myself, and gave up after looking into the code.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: It's in every practical sense similarly by user183413 on physics.SE

tpu- by suraj

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How can I restore my carpet's pile after too much cleaning product was used? by Asad Zaman on diy.SE

tpu- by ByteCommander

Byte Commander

!!/watch inandoutsteamers\.com

@ByteCommander Added inandoutsteamers\.com to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Causes you to stay quick on the draw, consistent with the end by Caltome1993 on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by ByteCommander

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: How long until an old website visitor sees new web design? by hoze menon on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

!!/report diy.stackexchange.com/a/132158/56858

11:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Can a locksmith open a deadbolt lock? by Asad Zaman on diy.SE

!!/watch viplocksmithtampa\.com

@Glorfindel Added viplocksmithtampa\.com to watchlist

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Slide de filmes by Nick on pt.stackoverflow.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

!!/watch mmfilmesonlinex\.org

@Glorfindel Added mmfilmesonlinex\.org to watchlist

tpu- by paper1111 on Can a locksmith open a deadbolt lock? [MS]

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Cai

!!/report graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/q/104877/52050

11:54 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: What do 3D rendering, modeling, tools, animation, or texturing companies do? by user12816 on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by paper1111

!!/watch habcreative\.ca

@Glorfindel Added habcreative\.ca to watchlist

!!/report music.stackexchange.com/q/66389/19800

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: What are the best site to buy guitars online? by user12816 on music.SE

!!/report health.stackexchange.com/q/15169/7205

11:55 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: What is the best way to meditate? by user12816 on health.SE

Cai

!!/report health.stackexchange.com/q/15169/6480

@Cai Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]

Cai

oh too slow

!!/report musicfans.stackexchange.com/q/6302/3189

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Are Nylon guitar strings stronger than steel strings? by user12816 on musicfans.SE

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tpu- by A J on What are the best site to buy guitars online? [MS]

11:56 AM

!!/watch allstringsnylon\.com

@Glorfindel Added allstringsnylon\.com to watchlist

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!!/watch boomeon\.com

@Glorfindel Added boomeon\.com to watchlist

!!/watch twilightraven\.com

@Glorfindel Added twilightraven\.com to watchlist

11:59 AM

I think that spammer's link to guitarcenter.com is coincidental (or an attempt to appear genuine): stackexchange.com/search?q=%22guitarcenter.com%22

@iBug I am

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@iBug The problem is that there is no good way to identify the R/A flag id

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The spam flag is consistent over all sites

And in the end, they're the same

12:01 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Fetching more than 500 videos from YouTube channel using v3 API in PHP by Harish on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

sd k

Q: Documentation for `option_id`, for the `/flags/options` API calls?

Basically, this is the problem:

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The Stack Exchange API has a couple of calls that return a list of flag_option objects. These objects contain a couple of properties that can be used to identify the flag you need. For example, when I want to cast a spam flag from an app, I used to look for a flag option with an title equal to "...

A question! Why can't we automatically flag a post as R/A via FIRE?

... I literally just answered that

Not possible for technical reasons.

And we got a seal of approval somewhere to use "Spam", instead.

@Cerbrus oh really?

I've been going to the actual post instead

12:08 PM

It's somewhere in the transcript... Months ago

@Cerbrus ai

that's gonna be hard to find

Yea

Don't even remember the employee's name...

@Cerbrus huh isn't it 7852?

@paper1111 On SO, right now, yes

But that ID isn't the same on all sites

Music, GraphicDesign and StackApps are also 7852 now

12:12 PM

... Yes, but that's not all sites

@Makyen that's a bug, API fp feedback should also remove the user from the blacklist

@Cerbrus ...right

@Cerbrus that'd be Pops

Ah yes

Feb 28 '17 at 21:24, by Pops

Ah, yeah... might want to see revision 44 to the Meta SE FAQ on such things. I learned a thing because of that discussion.

Search for “coke vs pepsi”

12:14 PM

Read down from there

And then especially this message:

Feb 28 '17 at 21:31, by Pops

It's... hard... to argue in favor of writing an algorithm and making a bot spend time calculating which of the two flag types to use when they are, in actuality, the exact same flag. It's not even Coke vs. Pepsi, it's Pepsi vs. a second bottle of Pepsi that's using a different but still valid Pepsi logo.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title: Getting Magento 1.9 to work with github.com/jeroenvermeulen/magento-solarium by thebeardedguy on magento.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Is it common to say "I have a complaint about my order."? by anynymous on ell.SE

@SmokeDetector f

sd k

sd - f

thanks @Cerbrus

sd k f

12:25 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: getsupplementhelp.com/tryvexan/ by amuu on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Why do rockets separate from both its strap-on booster cores simultaneously instead of one at a time? (Delta IV Heavy, Falcon Heavy, Angara) by geetha on space.SE

tpu- by A J on http://getsupplementhelp.com/tryvexan/ [MS]

tpu- by A J

!!/location

@Mithrandir No such command 'locations'.

@Mithrandir teward/Solar Flare

!!/blame

@AJ It's Zanna's fault.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: The service to notice transcenf by Kno th on drupal.SE

So it's absolutely safe to flag as spam, those posts that would fit into "rude or abusive"?

@SmokeDetector k

12:35 PM

!!/coffee Mithrandir

@AJ brews a cup of Espresso for @Mithrandir

@iBug Well.

@iBug unless policy has changed since then, yep

WELZ

@iBug yes, in fact it's (technically) considered the same flag

On Stack Overflow it's definitely okay; they have a meta consensus.

12:36 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Run python code inside <script> tag of HTML file by jennydaman on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

Other places you might have mods that complain, in which case you might as well explain that Pops was a CM at the time and point at that message.

@SmokeDetector f

tpu- by WELZ on https://musclebuildingbuy.com/test-re-gen/ [MS]

Learnt ✔

naa- by A J

12:38 PM

@AJ Not NAA IMO.

The first line is enough for an answer:

> You cannot run python in browsers.

@Mithrandir I was expecting a link to meta ;(

A: Let's get aligned on how spam flags can be used

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I vote the following: Red flags on gibberish are okay (handle as Helpful). Do we really want "sdfiushrf;usrgbsrilbslfibsl.eifub!" sticking around the site for longer than necessary? Red flags put the ability to remove these posts in the hands of a much wider scope of the community than communit...

12:53 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Messaging number in body: Suspension of my Andrroid App by GeekyGautam on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by paper1111

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: How to set child relationship in Neo4j by Franco Emily on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by paper1111

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: getsupplementhelp.com/tryvexan/ by user274687 on apple.SE

tpu- by A J

1:08 PM

@quartata yup, pretty sure there's one in V2 as well

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer: Why does the Sudan have a "the" in the name? by Africa Afrique on english.SE

tpu- by A J

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: File extension handler in Eclipse Che by Léo Roueire on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by A J

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: finiding max value of attribute of an object in array by Léo Roueire on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector f

!!/isblu stackoverflow.com/users/9208197

@AJ User is blacklisted (9208197 on stackoverflow.com).

!!/rmblu stackoverflow.com/users/9208197

1:16 PM

@AJ User removed from blacklist (9208197 on stackoverflow.com).

@SmokeDetector was litteraly just blacklisted bc of this

yep

PeterJ

1:33 PM

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/306509

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Are review queues available from the Android app? by Ahsan Iqbal on meta.SE (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title: S.O.L.I.D. principles by Crazy Man on softwareengineering.SE

@SmokeDetector k

@SmokeDetector Free 1-star reviews coming!

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@SmokeDetector f

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Folicell Apart from having dense and strong development by user21416 on astronomy.SE

@SmokeDetector k

1:41 PM

tpu by iBug on java api send email to another person-Android Studio [MS]

!!/watch superracing3d

@Glorfindel Added superracing3d to watchlist

@iBug finally, it's payback time :)

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WELZ

1:57 PM

@Glorfindel @iBug they also have another app

o.O

2:28 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: How do I capture the Image.Source as a BItmap and save it by TheHappyGuy on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

sd f

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Car for Kids Video by Amer Altaf on anime.SE

tpu- by Mithrandir

!!/watch children\W?enjoyment\W?brisbane

@Glorfindel Added children\W?enjoyment\W?brisbane to watchlist

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: getsupplementhelp.com/tryvexan/ by christ nasri on astronomy.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

3:00 PM

Can an admin check PR #1575 and #1582?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Writing Service by igordavidson94 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by WELZ

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Israel - Poland relations by nonamenick on politics.SE

3:19 PM

sd f

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Print a Christmas Tree by aschroder on codegolf.SE (@Mego)

fp- by Glorfindel

3:35 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: arefgfdgfdsgfsdg by sfgsgs on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector v

3:55 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: supplement4fitness.com/le-reel-serum/ by unsbxbsnsc on apple.SE

tpu- by ByteCommander

4:13 PM

I recently came across a question that was deleted for rude/abuse. I was the last person to flag it before it was deleted, so I think smokey didn't read the question because it was deleted at the time my userscript reported the post. Should I manually report the (now deleted) post, so that smokey can keep track of it?

Unfortunately, that doesn't work - Smokey can only read not-deleted posts.

And in general, while catching rude/abusive posts is nice and I have no problem !!/report-ing them, automated detection of them and keeping records is less of a priority than it is for straight spam.

Damn, we need to give SD more power

Even if Smokey had the privileges (10k / diamond status), it still wouldn't work because deleted posts aren't returned via the SE API.

@Glorfindel Well that seems like an oversight? I think if they have the ability to see deleted posts, it should be able to fetch them.

4:32 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: MRX Male Enhancement - It naturally helps develop lean and ripped muscles by MRX Male Enhancement on arduino.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

@FrankerZ it has been [status-planned] since 2011: Provide a way to retrieve questions and answers that have been deleted

4:53 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body: Citrus draw out – A famous blend of different by hikafikka on graphicdesign.SE

tpu- by John Dvorak

Glorfindel: I posted a question to meta.se about the deleted:1 tag. One of the things I mentioned was our conversation and a bit about the deleted post issue (As I think they're somewhat related).

5:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: SSO with SAML, Keycloak and Nextcloud by RMM on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

fp- by Jarko Dubbeldam

5:32 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to protect your illustrator file while sending it as a PDF and is there a way to deliver a PDF version that does not contain the vector artwork? by Joe on graphicdesign.SE

fp- by WELZ

rene

6:00 PM

@Undo we're going to host android app ratings on Software Recommendations, I assume you're okay with that? Here is the post

Undo

hah

blood pressure spiked looking at that ping on my phone, thanks for that :P

I need the cardiovascular exercise

rene

you're welcome

Undo

!!/report softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/a/48416/46

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Software to manage one's resume by amychersey on softwarerecs.SE

Undo

sd k

6:10 PM

!!/watch devmyresume\.com

@Glorfindel Added devmyresume\.com to watchlist

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7:48 PM

!!/alive

@JAD ... did I miss something?

o.o 2 hours without reports

7:58 PM

We've done it ladies and gentlemen (and flowers of course). We've eliminated all the spam from the Stack Exchange network. It's taken a long time, but I think they've realized it's futile to try to surpass the advanced detection abilities of our SmokeDetector.

Hey... "gentlemen"???

:(

Inclusivity, please!

rene

Yes, all flowers feel left out ...

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: The new list item should fade in by Valentina on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector v

I can't edit my post anymore RIP

8:06 PM

@FrankerZ I can edit it for you... what should I change?

ladies and gentleman (And flowers of course)

=D

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: How do I hold my knife to prevent blisters when chopping? by Jason Lee on cooking.SE

tpu- by DJMcMayhem

Weird... when I click on the FIRE symbol in here I get an error.

Heck, I don't even need to click on it, just hover.

@FrankerZ eeek capital letter abuse

@Catija what error?

8:10 PM

"No metasmoke reports found for URL: undefined"

Bad response for a preflight check?

oh

It does that for all FIRE symbols.

@Catija hit F12, find the Console tab, are there any errors in there?

@FrankerZ ;)

@FrankerZ Let's just have every single mod edit it at least one time

8:13 PM

Now that it's all fixed up I can safely hand you a giant ball of flaming gas.

So... is it porkchat that's causing the problem?

@Catija looks suspiciously like it... can't verify for certain cuz I don't have porkchat, but it's calling something called replace_emoji - which sounds like it would mess with the FIRE emoji

Maybe if I just turn that part off. It's optional.

OK. That seems to have fixed it. I wasn't really sure I wanted to use that part, anyway, so it's no big deal.

@Catija got an install link for porkchat?

8:17 PM

There's one pinned in the TL.

Fredly has versions in github, and as addons for FF and Chrome. I'm using the addon.

https://github.com/fredley/Porkchat
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/porkchat/genlcflidccakbiodbnmjnflfnbkmeip?hl=en-GB
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/se-porkchat/

gottit, ta

repro

It's actually a really nice addon. It's where the site whois autocomplete came from... has a dark chat theme... fun stuff.

Fredley's open to PRs, so feel free to poke at it if you want to make it compatible.

That's the idea... if it's reasonably easy

quartata

fredley literally only works on porkchat while drunk

so if there's problems that could be why

HAHAHAHAHA

8:22 PM

quartata

I believe replace_emoji is for stuff like :fire: -> <emoji>

yeah

Yeah, it is... I disabled them both but I think the replace emoji would be fine.

Did a bit more poking... it's actually the opposite of what I thought... the replace emoji shortcodes is what's breaking it, not the enlarge emoji.

8:44 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link: Geofencing doesn't work? by Bayrem Garsallaoui on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

@SmokeDetector f

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Is reaver working? by robandjeanne on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

Laff-O-Tron

9:14 PM

[open] Hi o/

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: Tournament (After 10 year haitus...) by JaKuzhi on chess.SE

fp- by Glorfindel

9:46 PM

^ Safari has a new WebSocket debugger

nice :)

While you’re here, do you have any ideas about what might be causing this?

I haven't got the faintest clue what that might be. All I can do is upvote your question :)

thanks anyway :)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer: Emacs: prevent cursor movement when scrolling off of the screen by as2017 on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

10:26 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, pattern-matching email in answer: How to defeat an enemy that feeds off energy by William Sophia on worldbuilding.SE

@SmokeDetector k

11:11 PM

fp by quartata on Is reaver working? [MS]

11:38 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title: What types of bacteria / probiotics are in yogurt made from tamarind or chili pepper? by guest484 on cooking.SE