12:08 AM
@AlanMunn ;) I never should have done ebgaramond-maths is the problem.
@AlanMunn Makes sense: I expect you've already got every possible feature covered.

12:51 AM
@PauloCereda -- brazilian portuguese losing all its diacritics: tex.stackexchange.com/q/411980 maybe you can help?

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7:43 AM
@CarLaTeX got It!

@UlrikeFischer Yay! I don't know why your mail went in spam box whereas Peter Wilson's one did not...

8:02 AM
@barbarabeeton The user hit the common mistake of not loading fontenc. Thankfully Kurt was way faster than me. :)
@yo' oooh bells

8:40 AM
@DavidCarlisle The expl3 one is quite big: perhaps close to that

@JosephWright actually it was failing to add the tds it's 35M now (but ctan upload was failing last night) I'll try again now.

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As a community we have institutional membership of TUG paid for by StackOverflow. (Thanks to StackOverflow for this support and to Stefan Kottwitz for the initial idea!) The membership entitles us to nominate eight people to benefit directly from this, receiving copies of TUGBoat and so on. As in...

@JosephWright here we go again

@CarLaTeX Perhaps I'm not so an important vip, or Peter Wilson didn't attach so neat pictures ;-).

@JosephWright: should we allow indications? In retrospect, maybe we could let people nominate themselves first...

8:47 AM
@PauloCereda I'd rather we had self-nominations but in the past people have wanted to be allowed to nominate others

@JosephWright Indeed.
@marmot: Mr. marmot, do you have a TUG membership?

9:01 AM
@UlrikeFischer LOL

1 hour later…
10:17 AM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Do you know about the book "Statistikk for universiteter og høgskoler" by Gunnar Løvås? There is a small "scandal" here in Sweden right now about its exercises (in a translated version, don't know if they are the same in the original one). Have they been discussed in Norway as well?

10:49 AM
@CarLaTeX Are you available to be nominated for TUG?

@samcarter Yes, I love it! But I was nominated also last year, write to give priority to new people.

@samcarter ooh ooh ask me too

@mickep I don't know about the book or any discussion of it. But then I am not a statistician. Do you have any links to the discussions in Sweden? (Note: I'll be away for a two hour lecture, so no hurry.)

@PauloCereda Are you available for nomination or are you already a TUG member?

11:04 AM
@samcarter thank you, but I am part of the most awesome TeX Users Group of all times: the almighty UK-TUG! We even have @DavidCarlisle! <3
@samcarter: also, you got mail. :)

@PauloCereda now @JosephWright will be offended

11:18 AM
@samcarter Perfect!

@DavidCarlisle ooh
We also have @JosephWright! <3

@mickep (No seats left, so I'm back. I'll miss the Onsager lectures by Moser & Moser. Bummer!)

@PauloCereda No. Do they take marmots?

11:37 AM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Oh, I'm sorry you missed it :(. In any case here is a link to one of the newspapers writing about it. One could notice that they claim it is offensive to women. I would also say that it is not fair to men :)

@mickep Ah, I see. I haven't bothered to get behind the paywall, but at least I saw enough to get what the fuzz is about. Not that the problem seems to endorse Leonard's behaviour, but the word “erövra” to describe his exploits is certainly offensive, albeit common.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Yes, well, the exercise is not good, and it should never have been written in my opinion. On the other hand, there are worse things to be upset about. We'll see if it will be discussed in Norway as well...

12:13 PM
@mickep @HaraldHanche-Olsen I found at least one mention of it in newspapers, but from nearly 10 years ago. aftenposten.no/osloby/i/vO6nl/Reagerer-pa-pensumbok

@TeXnician: Are you a TUG member already?

@TorbjørnT. @mickep Old news, then. In the Aftenposten article there are indications that a new edition may be forthcoming, and that they might reconsider this problem then. But that seems not to have happened.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Looked like a new edition was published in 2013.

12:36 PM
@samcarter: Nominated you (again) for TUG :-P

12:52 PM
@TorbjørnT. Indeed. I might check the university book store here and see if they've got it, and if that exercise is still there. It is of course possible that the latest edition has not been translated to Swedish.

1:15 PM
@ChristianHupfer No, I'm currently not.

@TeXnician You may nominate yourself in the TUG 'competition' then

@PauloCereda Yes, lure him to the Dark side ;-)

@ChristianHupfer I may do it eventually. But not today, as I'm currently pretty busy.

Anybody can use a spare vote for tex.stackexchange.com/a/398308/4427 so the question is removed from the unanswered list? I don't understand why it has been downvoted.

1:22 PM
@TeXnician You've time left, of course
@egreg Done -- we had some strange downvotes recently ... also for two of my correct answers...
Who is is strange user: tex.stackexchange.com/users/153334/magox ???

I don't know, but I think he took seriously my comment about Donald Knuth reinventing TeX :P

@PhelypeOleinik Reinvent the wheel? I am the one wacky duck writing a PhD thesis on macros in 2018. :)

@PauloCereda Hahahaha

@PauloCereda You're writing a thesis? ;-)

@ChristianHupfer shocking, isn't it? :)

1:34 PM
He asked for a way to have bibliographies without compiling them. I couldn't resist a little sarcasm :)

touch thesis.tex
@ChristianHupfer: it is still thesis writing, isn't it? ^^ :)
Or... thesis touching...

@PauloCereda LOL!

@PhelypeOleinik: The real thesis of @PauloCereda ;-)

@PauloCereda That's a secret... :D

1:44 PM
@ChristianHupfer <3

@PauloCereda: how_to_procrastinate.tex is in fact an empy VeraCrypt container -- I just took a large file in order to make it look huge ;-)

@ChristianHupfer This guy went further. He hacked into @PauloCereda's head! ted.com/talks/…
As a procrastinator, I can say it is true U_U

@PhelypeOleinik If I watch that talk, that does not help me with my procrastination, it makes it worse!

@PhelypeOleinik Well, I fear what I would see inside @PauloCereda's head ;-)

@ChristianHupfer Don't worry, its kids-safe :)

1:47 PM

@PauloCereda Indeed, it almost makes you feel okay with it :P

@PhelypeOleinik That does not mean much ;-)

@ChristianHupfer :D

@PauloCereda If you use that link I will replace your thesis class with abntex2 :-P

@ChristianHupfer NO PLEASE I WILL BEHAVE

1:50 PM
@PauloCereda Now we're talking ;-)

@ChristianHupfer That's low...

@ChristianHupfer :)

@yo' wow

@yo' Aarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh..... Thanks for undermining my efforts the keep the chat Schnappi - free :-(

1:53 PM
@ChristianHupfer that's for the you used a torture threat!
@ChristianHupfer and it wouldn't be complete without this:

@yo' Time for the Imperial March then ;-)

This version, of course.

@yo' There is worse than this
@PauloCereda Ah..... what a relief ;-)

2:55 PM
@ChristianHupfer Thank you very much for the nomination! May I ask for the same note as CarLaTeX? I have been elected as representative the past two years and although I would love to continue I would encourage everybody to first vote for new nominees, please.
@ChristianHupfer Do I remember correctly, that you are already a TUG member?
@PhelypeOleinik Would you be available for tex.meta.stackexchange.com/q/7543/36296 ?

@samcarter Certainly! I would love that!
I'm not sure about what to do, but certainly I'm in! Should I put my name in the question there?

3:16 PM
@JosephWright Could you ping moewe regarding the TUG memebership?

@UlrikeFischer you've been poked (mail). :)

@PauloCereda saw it and just answered ;-)

@UlrikeFischer ooh :)

@yo' -- that's pretty neat! my question is, why does it need electronic amplification? (my mother's church had a set of bells, i think just over an octave. it was played from a keyboard in a lower story of the bell tower. the peal could be heard for nearly a mile, more if there was a favorable wind. interestingly, i heard the same peal from a church in cork a few years ago, but rung by hand, not from a keyboard.)

3:32 PM
@samcarter Actually, no I can't yet (I think it requires 3000 rep), so I asked to make sure :)
@samcarter Thank you! :)

@barbarabeeton where do you read "electronic amplification"?

@PhelypeOleinik 10k actually.

@PauloCereda Gasp! It will take a while :)

@PhelypeOleinik :)

@PhelypeOleinik As fast as you are accumulating reputation, it will not take long until you see them :)
@PhelypeOleinik You're welcome!

3:40 PM
@samcarter :)

@yo' -- in the introductory paragraph: "The carillon has its own illumination, amplifier with loudspeakers and microphone." hmm. maybe i misinterpreted that -- it could be for announcing what's being played anD by whom, not for the bells. probably my mistake. (but i think you would agree: the bells don't/shouldn't need amplification.)

@barbarabeeton well, AFAIK the bells are not amplified. After all, it is in general very tough to record them

@yo' -- i can believe that recording them is tricky. i have a recording of the 1812 overture with the bells in the yale university bell tower. (and real cannon.) just the thing to set up to wake someone; better than an alarm clock. and sometimes, for the playing of the 1812 overture by the boston pops on july 4, outdoors, the bells of the boston churches are called into action. impressive! (and tricky timing.)

@egreg ^^
@barbarabeeton I would love to see the songsheet of the cannon player. :)

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@marmot ^^^^

3:54 PM
@UlrikeFischer ;-) ;-) ... and I just wrote in an answer that I don't know French ... what a coincidence ;-)
@PauloCereda I am just a marmot and so I don't know what TUG Boat is. (I always thought this was a boat on which ducks get food and can relax.) Could you please send me the link?

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@marmot ^^ very close. :)

@PauloCereda ;-)

@marmot: nominate yourself: tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7543/… :)
@UlrikeFischer I wanna be the cannon player. :) It is surely more annoying than the tuba guy. :)

@samcarter It doesn't matter. I am not votable ;-)
@samcarter I will vote for her as well ;-) You were just quicker in nomination...

@PauloCereda Because of the time required to reload, the cannon player can't remain annoying for long. The 1812 overture requires several cannons, I think, since there are a number of shots close together with no time to reload. Anyhow, the trombone is louder than the tuba, for sure?

4:07 PM
@PauloCereda Ah, finally a useful job for Ducks instead of floating around on ponds ;-)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen we might need a trombone expert. Where's @DavidCarlisle? :)

@PauloCereda His off for his usual dinner, I'm afraid.

@cfr Would it be OK to nominate you for tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7543/…?

@PauloCereda Minha experiência é linguagem e não música

@DavidCarlisle Oooh I can make sense of that without google translate!

4:09 PM
@DavidCarlisle A parte mais divertida de tudo isso é que você vai acabar aprendendo Português acidentalmente. :)

@TorbjørnT. @HaraldHanche-Olsen Oh, so it is old news. I wonder if the editions are synced or not... (but I do not wonder about it so much that I will buy the norwegian version from 2012) :D Thanks for looking it up!

@PauloCereda a) Já tenho conhecimento completo e b) Na verdade eu não leio as cordas que estou postando

@DavidCarlisle I am giggling a lot how Google translated string (as in formal language, cadeia) as corda. :)
@AlanMunn, @PhelypeOleinik ^^ one for you two. :)

@PauloCereda I am sure that @AlanMunn will explain that they are etymologically related so my version was justifiable

@DavidCarlisle The funny part is, if you translate cadeia to English, it will probably give you jail!

4:15 PM
@PauloCereda yes

@DavidCarlisle Being myself one of the last people fighting against unnecessary Anglicisms, you can already tell my thesis has some funny words. :)

@PauloCereda Just make sure you're not a canon player, otherwise you'll find yourself going round and round.

@PauloCereda Estou surpreso ao ouvir que tem alguma palavra

@AlanMunn ooh I see what you did there. :)
@DavidCarlisle I was expecting that. :)

@PauloCereda terminou sua tese?

4:19 PM
The sad thing is, Google Translate seems to speak better Portuguese than the average Brazilian...
@DavidCarlisle Ó não!

@PauloCereda eu não sou mau

@DavidCarlisle resposta preemptiva :)

@PauloCereda O ataque é a melhor forma de defesa

@PauloCereda Done. Hope not to get sea-sick ;-)

4:27 PM
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@marmot we don't walk, we ski ^^^^

@UlrikeFischer WOW. \duck[ski=gray] ?

@DavidCarlisle I'd like to string you along with such a story, but the etymological chain is hard to follow.

@AlanMunn I will have to upgrade my dictionary

4:42 PM
@PauloCereda LOL. In my experience, Google makes a mess for Portuguese, especially when it comes to some funny ambiguity :P

@PhelypeOleinik Yep. :)

@UlrikeFischer Do you have a duck defending his thesis? Oh, no, that's not possible. ;-)

@egreg Why can't a duck defend his thesis?

4:58 PM
@egreg You mean this one? tex.stackexchange.com/a/346697/2388

5:20 PM
Is anyone here using pandoc to generate beamer slides? I just updated pandoc and now all the markup e.g. #Title is being rendered as \#Title etc.

5:40 PM
@UlrikeFischer :-O

6:18 PM
@AlanMunn Oh I never knew it was possible!

@PauloCereda It's actually quite convenient for quickly making slides. Saves a lot of markup time.

@AlanMunn Interesting!

@PauloCereda I solved the problem, btw. The new version is stricter about spaces in the markdown, so #Foo used to work but now it must be # Foo.

@AlanMunn Oh!

6:33 PM
Includes "how unlikely you are to get funding" and "tall tales from the tenure track"
Escape room idea: you're using vim
Boo.

6:50 PM
@PauloCereda Thanks for your suggestion. Why is the deadline just one day after the Happy-Marmot-Day (a.k.a. Groundhog Day)? Because of the weather forecast?

@marmot we need to ask another resident duck, @JosephWright. :)
Die Räder vom Bus, die rollen dahin

@PauloCereda die Frage ist nur, macht es auch Sinn

@UlrikeFischer ooh

@PauloCereda I hope you saw the rhyme ;-)

@UlrikeFischer I am trying. :) German is quite difficult for me, but I will do my best to greet you when you arrive in Rio!

6:58 PM
@PauloCereda I'm feeling the pressure to improve my english accent ;-)

@UlrikeFischer It will be great. :)

8:20 PM
@PauloCereda I can help, I just make three talks in German.
@PauloCereda Ulrike too, and then you will be used to the easy German language.
\documentclass[ngerman,strict]{abntex2}

9:02 PM
Hi all, is someone of the regulars by any chance at the conference electronic displays Conference 2018 in Nuernberg (Germany) end of February? I will give a talk (beamer of course) and it would be interesting to meet people from here in real life.

9:16 PM
@JasperHabicht when tikz is the first thing that comes to your mind, you should start to worry about your state of mind:-) — David Carlisle 26 mins ago
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9:46 PM
@egreg you deleted the comment as I was replying:-)

@DavidCarlisle Yes, it wasn't really that duplicate

@egreg i'll delete my reply then

10:01 PM
@marmot I'm still wondering what is the "quadrilateral" the OP wanted... tex.stackexchange.com/questions/412151/…

@PhelypeOleinik probably wanted to square a circle, but was confused by starting from a triangle.
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@DavidCarlisle hahahhahahaha Probably

10:17 PM
@PhelypeOleinik : @DavidCarlisle is certainly right. As always ;-)
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@marmot Except when he's wrong, of course.

@AlanMunn Thanks for the edit. ;-) Did you know that some friend of mine was calling for you? youtube.com/watch?v=xaPepCVepCg&feature=youtu.be
@PhelypeOleinik BTW, in \pi dimensions triangles become round.

@PhelypeOleinik Yes, in \pi dimensions these things are equivalent.

10:33 PM
@marmot LOL Yes my students like to show me this quite a bit. :) And edit?

@marmot My brain is limited to integer dimensions :P

@PhelypeOleinik but you are not a god
It works (of course) for my project as well and is exactly what I want. You are a god :) Thanks again! — HB4711 6 hours ago

@AlanMunn Ooops, sorry, I got confused. I'm always very drowsy during hibernation.
@PhelypeOleinik @DavidCarlisle Well, you need to learn these things if you deal with dimensional regularization and advance from natural units to supernatural units ;-)

10:48 PM
@DavidCarlisle Oh, that explains it Q_Q All hail the <s>Hypnotoad</s> marmot god!
oh, strikethrough doesn't work here...

@PhelypeOleinik are you sure?

@DavidCarlisle How does that work here? <s>Feep?</s>

@marmot It works like this

@DavidCarlisle What did you say?
@DavidCarlisle What works?

10:57 PM
@DavidCarlisle gotcha

@PhelypeOleinik I said something but unhelpfully crossed it out:-)

Guys Ç_Ç

@PhelypeOleinik think emdash foo emdash
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ooohhhh neat
Thanks!

@PhelypeOleinik the odd thing about that is that it only works here in chat you can not use the same in comments or answers on the main site.

11:01 PM
Yes, in the main site it works like in HTML, with the <s> tag...

@PhelypeOleinik I see, didn't know that. Thanks!

@marmot Yes, some HTML works there. My favorite is to <!--hide stuff --> in the posts :)

@PhelypeOleinik Very useful...
@DavidCarlisle How do you pronounce the \zz commands that you are always using?

@marmot zed zed or zzzzed for lots of them. I'm sure @barbarabeeton being a native english speaker also pronounces z as zed:-)
@egreg first commit?

11:43 PM
@AlanMunn a more intuitive version of Werner's answer needed, but not one of mine because my code was transparently clear as written?

@DavidCarlisle Of course. :)