@egreg here presumably?

@DavidCarlisle Not really. :-D

@AlanMunn Hi. I was around - sort of. Bit distracted.

@cfr No worries, just saying hello.

@cfr It seems that the istgame author is doing their best to promote the package. It seems quite good for its intended use, but I'm not convinced it's as good for general purpose trees.

@AlanMunn Yes, I know. Is it being promoted for general purpose trees? Why aren't you convinced? I looked briefly at the manual - the documentation looks quite full, at least. And the author has promised to translate the Chinese bookmarks, which through me somewhat.

@AlanMunn I'm not sure why people want their packages used. It just leads to endless emails complaining that they aren't designed to do what their users wanted. (Bugs are a different matter and even careful requests. It is the 'I really think you should provide this whole other lot of stuff, even though your docs say that's not what the package does, because your package really isn't any use at all otherwise', which I object to. Don't use it, then.)

@cfr I just looked at the documentation, and yes it's very comprehensive. Maybe it's just that I'm so used to bracketed structures for representing the hierarchy.

@cfr Haha. Yes, I can see that. Luckily the only package of mine that gets used extensively is the thesis class, and there's limited room for user requests. :)

@cfr Although I did get an email a while back complaining about how the documentation of the he-she package wasn't gender neutral.

@cfr And apart from lack of time, I'm also not too keen on actually releasing the tikz-backgammon package.

@karlkoeller ahhaahahah. Hi dear friend. How did you understand that I looked at your questions and answers? It is true that I voted for your answers. Greetings and a hug from Sicily.

@PauloCereda Familiar? ↑↑

@AlanMunn Have you read Pohl's The years of the city? (Science fiction.) In that story, he and she are gone, with just e as the pronoun used for both genders. His/her becomes er, and him/her becomes um. E had lost er bag, which bothered um greatly. Even mom and dad are gone, replaced by muddy for both. The whole book is a fun read, and not only because of the pronouns. Maybe the he-she package could use a pohl option.

Is there a way to change the bounty notes, after starting it? I wrote thick instead of tick here: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/411378/…

@HaraldHanche-Olsen We Italians are ahead: suo means both his ans her :):):)

@CarLaTeX That typo seems to be a habit of yours. You did in the comment on Heiko's answer as well.

@CarLaTeX How long has that been in the language?

@HaraldHanche-Olsen I'm using TikZ too much :):):)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Comment deleted :)

@CarLaTeX Too bad there isn't an ultra tick.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Always been like that

@HaraldHanche-Olsen You're right!!!!

@CarLaTeX Ah, but it's only the possessive. I see.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Also the pronoun: suo=his/hers

@HaraldHanche-Olsen a lot, and that worries me. :)

@AlanMunn Haha, what was the reason it was not gender neutral? Because \she was an alias for \he (and so on)? :D

@marmot Hi mr. marmot!

There is a relative of the marmot in Brazil named tuco-tuco:

@daleif anything we can do to avoid this?

@DavidCarlisle I don't know, not 100% sure that the memoir copy is identical to the current tabularx version. And if it is, I have no idea how bidi patches it or when.

I'll add it to my todo list

@WillRobertson: do you like noisy birds? :)

@barbarabeeton ^^ :)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- pronouns of that ilk were also used by mike spivak in joy of tex. a little different (instead of "um", "eir" was used). a possible -- and certainly tex-related -- approach. (the ams editorial department grumbled, but ultimately let it get published.)

@barbarabeeton Ah, I had forgotten about that. The grumbling of the editorial department comes as no surprise.

@PauloCereda done, see tex.stackexchange.com/a/411899/121799

@marmot FANTASTIC <3

@CarLaTeX, @UlrikeFischer ^^

@marmot @PauloCereda <3 <3 <3

@PauloCereda -- amazing! never seen such a thing.

@marmot That's great!

But with "either" I mean any of the packages, not both :P

I've never used PSTricks before, but I'll give it a try ;)

@mickep I don't remember the details now and I'd have to look back at my mail archive to find the email.

@AlanMunn Don't worry, it does not matter. :)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen No, but there are lots of languages with no gender distinctions in pronouns. Oddly enough (/sarcasm) they still seem to be in sexist cultures.

@JosephWright New package: acknowledge: adds a footnote listing all the packages in a document so that the authors get the credit they deserve. :) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/411907/…

@AlanMunn Does it list itself? :)

@mickep Yes, load it with the russell option. :)

Hahaha

@AlanMunn Thankfully there's no wikicite package.

@MaryStar Hi! Pretty sure we can! :)

@MaryStar Almost: \begin{enumerate}[label=$\mathcal{B}\arabic*$]

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{enumitem}
\begin{document}
\begin{enumerate}[label=$\mathcal{B}\arabic*$]
\item ABC
\end{enumerate}
\end{document}

@egreg oh no, you beat me to it!

@egreg @PauloCereda Thank you!! :-)

@MaryStar $\mathcal{B}$elive in your skills! :)

@AlanMunn Is there a non-sexist culture? (\sarcasm)

@CarLaTeX the Marklars!

@PauloCereda :):):)

@PauloCereda you got mail. @CarLaTeX the professore got mail (I hope ...)

@UlrikeFischer Not arrived yet, but let's wait a bit :)

@PhelypeOleinik I was just kidding... Yesterday I wasted my day by translating a 12 years old talk from PSTricks to TikZ, and I'm thus not in the right mood to play with PSTricks...

@marmot I played a little with PSTricks earlier today. Enough to understand why you didn't like your job yesterday :P

@marmot Oh, I remember... I looked a little but had no idea how to solve it...

I understand U_U. It's hard to find an actual warning among the mess...

@CarLaTeX It should be there by now. If not, is the mail address in the duckboat correct?

@UlrikeFischer Not arrived, but the address is correct, Peter Wilson wrote to prof. van Duck paulinho.vanduck@gmail.com

@UlrikeFischer Found in spam!

@JosephWright I guess I should do this:

@JosephWright :(

Package biblatex Warning: 'iso8601' date format specifier is deprecated.
(biblatex)                Use 'iso' instead.


Package biblatex Warning: 'iso8601' date format specifier is deprecated.
(biblatex)                Use 'iso' instead.


Package biblatex Warning: 'iso8601' date format specifier is deprecated.
(biblatex)                Use 'iso' instead.


Package biblatex Warning: 'iso8601' date format specifier is deprecated.
(biblatex)                Use 'iso' instead.


Package biblatex Warning: 'iso8601' date format specifier is deprecated.

@UlrikeFischer Prof. van Duck has just replied :):):)

@JosephWright Oh I think this is OK, I just need to clear out the old aux (I should have used l3build:-)

@DavidCarlisle Indeed: had the same in expl3 until I fixed it :)

@JosephWright it takes forever to build the oberdiek bundle, we really should split it up.

@DavidCarlisle Probably

@DavidCarlisle See mail

real    27m27.065s
user    17m10.776s
sys     9m23.199s

@JosephWright @AlexG ^^^

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle Goodness: almost as long at the kernel!

@JosephWright what's the incantation for "git log since tag zzz" ?

@JosephWright and that's with no tests run

@DavidCarlisle I just use git log --oneline as it's reverse chronology

@JosephWright ah, it doesn't show tags but (I could have) given tag commits a recognisable commit log) OK

@DavidCarlisle Up-to-date Git does

@DavidCarlisle E.g. for beamer:

2017b1c Retain repo structure on CTAN (fixes #444)
48ca4d2 added documentation for `page number in head/foot` template
db3562f renamed `framenumber in foot` to `page number in head/foot` to be consistent with the already existing font and colour templates
328a86f Merge pull request #448 from samcarter8/master
5692a7d Use same indent for all enumerte types (fixes #453)
39c0b66 add template to switch between frame/page number formats in footline
4282279 Add `\ifbeamer@inappendix` switch
0a7af8a Add counts for main and appendix part

hmm

$ git --version
git version 2.15.0

@JosephWright am I behind the times

@DavidCarlisle Hmm, no: I have 2.14 here. Perhaps it's a question of an option somewhere ... I've never set anything!

@JosephWright do you have ho-tex/oberdeik? locally

@DavidCarlisle Not at the moment: should I grab it?

@JosephWright then I could assign all issues to you:-) But I just wondered what you got for git log --online

@DavidCarlisle Give me a couple of minutes

@JosephWright scrap that it works now

@DavidCarlisle Ah cool

@JosephWright if you do just what you said git log and git log --oneline give the tag and branch info in some coloured lines, but I had piped through more (habit) and it seems if there is no terminal attached it uses a more basic format

@DavidCarlisle Ah

@DavidCarlisle Git auto-applies less ...

Good evening, everyone!

@DavidCarlisle Makes sense now: I see the same

@yo' Evening

@JosephWright so I see, but I'm so used to typing svn log on files with 30+ years of svn history....

I'm considering, we vote for the president on Friday (it's the final round). Shall I put my scout uniform for the voting? :)

@DavidCarlisle :)

@yo' well put something on

@DavidCarlisle oh what a plan! But maybe @PauloCereda needed not to as ducks don't usually wear clothes...

Why was this question left open? I flagged it as unclear what you are asking but apparently the "ConTeXt experts" who voted to leave it open didn't think so.

tex.stackexchange.com/review/close/140558

@PauloCereda Even seen this? carillon.cz/technical-data

carillon.cz/file.php?nid=12301&oid=3417076

@HenriMenke I hadn't seen it but it's not particularly unclear, even if the answer is just "you are doing the right thing"

@DavidCarlisle But such questions are actively discouraged by the site policy tex.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask

@HenriMenke that's not clear the question isn't just "is this right" there is an actual question implied, namely "can you specify two sided printing using \whateverlayout thing so it doesn't seem too bad to answer it, it's not as if we have that many context questions

@JosephWright how big are your uploads? oberdiek.zip is 17M and the ctan form just sits for a bit then says "no file selected" perhaps I'll try chrome

@AlanMunn It is also more limited, isn't it? Specifically for game trees. I guess since I have a more general tool, I'm not very motivated to look at a more limited one very carefully. I like Forest's bracketed syntax. I did not like qtree's and never felt comfortable with it.