Charcoal HQ

iBug

10:00 AM

@paper1111 So my fix would be better.

paper1111

Let the others decide

iBug

Since mostly dots counts the proportion of dots and tests if it reaches 40%

If the total character count is modified then it would malfunction.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: testosteronesboosterweb.com/andro-plus-male-enhancement/ by user778135 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

iBug

I guess that's their original thoughts for not enabling stripcodeblock for "mostlydots"

Glorfindel

Makes sense, but then we should add a comment stating this explicitly.

Now it's just guesswork ...

iBug

10:03 AM

Just ask the maintainers.

!!/whois admin

SmokeDetector

@iBug I am aware of 5 admins: tripleee, angussidney, Andy, ArtOfCode, Undo. None of them are currently in this room. Other users in this room might be able to help you.

iBug

Nobody's Home (by Avril Lavigne)

Magisch

@Mithrandir so just admin then :p

iBug

The mostly dots reason weight is only 38... Guess it's the wrong stripping implementation that caused a lot of FPs.

Magisch

perpetual paradox though that people with the rank of code admin can neither edit the code nor are admins

Glorfindel

10:09 AM

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/305330/295232

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Suggested edit by Anonymous by diceyt on meta.SE (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Magisch

iBug

@Glorfindel Watch the site?

!!/test buy.fineproxy.org/eng/usa-proxy.html

SmokeDetector

> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-26: https://buy.fineproxy.org

Glorfindel

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/48074570/4751173

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: iTunes connect : Your file could not be loaded. Try again by diceyt on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto @paper1111)

Glorfindel

10:11 AM

!!/watch buy\.fineproxy\.org

Mithrandir

!!/watch fineproxy\.org

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Added buy\.fineproxy\.org to watchlist

tpu- by NVZ

@Mithrandir Added fineproxy\.org to watchlist

iBug

@Glorfindel Why not the whole domain?

!!/unwatch buy\.fineproxy\.org

Glorfindel

yeah, that's probably better.

NVZ

!!/report interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/8686/345

SmokeDetector

10:12 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: If you rely on your partner to do something, how do you ask them to do it better? by user10878 on interpersonal.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +2 more: More info @>www.wellness4healthy.com/adelina-cream/ by 2142114 on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel on If you rely on your partner to do something, how do you ask them to do it better? [MS]

tpu- by Glorfindel

iBug

@iBug This is intentionally formatted as code for those with code priv to apply.

Glorfindel

!!/watch visaonlinevietnam\.com

iBug

!!/test visaonlinevietnam.com/apply-vietnam-visa-form

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Added visaonlinevietnam\.com to watchlist

> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-29: http://visaonlinevietnam.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: x4up.org/testosup-xtreme/ by vweykmngv on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

CI on 9675711 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 9675711 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of visaonlinevietnam\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

iBug

TestoSup is a good contributer to the 100k milestone :)

SmokeDetector

10:14 AM

Restart: API quota is 16808.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: You can only post 1 time each day due to the volume of spam and abuse originating from your network by diceyt on meta.SE (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Mirroring a mailing list in Google Groups? by Claire on webapps.SE

NVZ

@SmokeDetector weird

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Glorfindel

iBug

@SmokeDetector k

"Mostly exclamation mark" in body, haha

Glorfindel

!!/report security.stackexchange.com/a/166686/71850 askubuntu.com/a/941876/606366

Magisch

I wonder

iBug

10:16 AM

@SmokeDetector why

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector that user has two other answers on the network, both linking to the same site (different from this domain)

NVZ

Too many spams in a minute?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 1 out of 2): Open Source IP/Network load balancer by diceyt on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

Magisch

would it be a lot of work to have MS automatically spam flag posts you "sd k" on your behalf?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): Why is my IP address different when I connect to a vpn? by diceyt on security.SE

@iBug Post - Contains 1 unique characters

tpu- by Mithrandir on Open Source IP/Network load balancer [MS]

iBug

10:16 AM

@Magisch Yeah I've always thought of that.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Mithrandir

Glorfindel

@Mithrandir not anymore :P

iBug

@Glorfindel Means it used to be?

90 to go!

Glorfindel

!!/watch 2ip\.io

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Added 2ip\.io to watchlist

CI on 1e0a16f succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 1e0a16f (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 2ip\.io by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 16749.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to change the Content of a <textarea> with Javascript by lingweicai on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto @paper1111)

tpu- by Bugs

iBug

10:20 AM

WTF? Rose?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: No internet after VPN connection by diceyt on superuser.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto @iBug)

Magisch

I wonder: android.stackexchange.com/a/113696

Spam?

It advertises this fineproxy site

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Magisch

iBug

@Magisch Too old...

Though I flagged as spam.

What's this flower?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +3 more: x4up.org/testosup-xtreme/ by user270431 on apple.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: With VPN I can connect to network without VPN I can't by diceyt on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

iBug

10:26 AM

@Glorfindel You said "no longer" so I imply it used to be the case to auto spam flag at TP report.

Right?

Mithrandir

!!/blacklist-website fineproxy\.org

SmokeDetector

@Mithrandir Blacklisted fineproxy\.org

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: x4up.org/testosup-xtreme/ by snapwet on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

Mithrandir

sd k

iBug

!!/report android.stackexchange.com/a/113696/205764

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Unable to download media Whatsapp while using Wifi with proxy by Gerald on android.SE (@iBug)

Mithrandir

10:27 AM

@iBug please don't feedback to posts you've !!/reported.

3

iBug

Understood.

SmokeDetector

CI on 68db8ac succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

Mithrandir

Removing the message doesn't remove the feedback.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 68db8ac (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of fineproxy\.org by Mithrandir --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 16637.

iBug

@Mithrandir Feedback can't be removed? Only changed?

Mithrandir

10:28 AM

You have to go to the MS page to delete feedback.

Magisch

can be removed. Though the process for that is pretty convoluted.

Mithrandir

@Magisch Not too difficult. Just go to the MS page, click 'clear', and delete the feedback.

Magisch

requires being logged into MS, knowing that exists and clicking through 2 additional sites

iBug

I've cleared it.

Magisch

pretty convoluted from a UX perspective

iBug

10:30 AM

Doesn't matter. I've logged in already.

Glorfindel

@iBug no, I just meant that Mithrandir's statement was no longer correct.

iBug

Mod's coming!

Glorfindel

There were a lot of mods already present ...

iBug

Oh, I used the wrong word.

Admin's coming.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by NVZ

Mithrandir

10:31 AM

two of 'em ;)

Glorfindel

Better :)

NVZ

@Mithrandir Curious. What happens in that case?

iBug

Someone please review PR #1441, thanks :)

Magisch

@NVZ it's just redundant

Mithrandir

@NVZ depends.

Magisch

10:32 AM

also it's self defeating the peer review process a bit

Mithrandir

If it's an obvious case, we'll just ignore it

Magisch

tbh although people with fire regularly do it inadvertendly

Fire?

FIRE

FIRE userscript

10:33 AM

Is it the name of a userscript?

Oh so it is

Mithrandir

if it's borderline - like this one - we might pull in an admin to delete your feedback

NVZ

@Magisch yeah, I mean. I didn't even bother thinking about it. I go on a review spree when I'm on charcoal.

Magisch

I've been doing that when batch reporting posts

only for extremely obvious BS though

iBug

@Magisch What is BS?

Glorfindel

If I encounter spam on Ask Different, I need to report it here before I flag it (otherwise, the post is gone and Smokey can't read it), and then remember to flag it from a browser without FDSC.

ArtOfCode

10:34 AM

@Magisch about 5 minutes work

iBug

Again what's FDSC... @Glorfindel

Magisch

@ArtOfCode Is there a reason we don't have this?

ArtOfCode

Most of that would be making a user preference for it

Magisch

For people who meet all the required criteria for doing it

Glorfindel

@iBug again, a userscript. See charcoal-se.org/scripts

Basically, it's the reverse of FIRE.

NVZ

10:35 AM

@iBug FDSC and FIRE are two scripts to aid reporting spams.

ArtOfCode

@Magisch nobody's thought of it yet :)

iBug

@Glorfindel I just populated my SEAutoComments, let alone userscripts.

Magisch

FIRE puts a little icon next to smokey reports that opens a modal from which you can feedback / spam flag all in one from chat

iBug

I've installed tampermonkey but it's empty so far

Magisch

FDSC feeds back automatically when you flag a reported post

iBug

10:36 AM

Does anyone know what "coverage" in GitHub means?

Magisch

@ArtOfCode heh

iBug

The comment bot adding one after every PR stating "coverage is 65%"

Magisch

Test coverage for unit tests AFAIK

(don't quote me on that)

iBug

Test coverage?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, blacklisted user: Cisco VPN - no VPN connection was active by diceyt on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

ArtOfCode

10:37 AM

@Magisch would conflict with FIRE, though. Maybe only flag after non-API feedbacks

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Glorfindel

ArtOfCode

@iBug how much of the code is covered by automated tests

iBug

Looks like I'm going to learn a whole lot of new things today.

Magisch

@ArtOfCode well yeah, chat commands

ArtOfCode

Yup :)

Magisch

10:38 AM

for people that can't / won't use fire

iBug

@ArtOfCode The Smokey's code?

Magisch

Yeah

ArtOfCode

@iBug that's the one

Magisch

SmokeDetector's code has automated tests written so people don't break stuff changing it

best practices in software development and all that

iBug

Wow good.

ArtOfCode

10:39 AM

Not that having them actually stops us breaking things

Magisch

coverage is how much of smokey's code can be verified using these tests

Glorfindel

But [everything-is-broken] ...

ArtOfCode

We just find things that aren't covered to break

iBug

Looks like another whole lot to learn before I come to work.

Magisch

smokey has become a complicated project

iBug

10:41 AM

I have never had cooperating experiences.

Magisch

I soak up trivia like a sponge and I'm completly unable to keep track of all of the minutiae that changes what feels like weekly

iBug

All projects I have are written by myself.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: healthonlinereviews.com/bella-rose-ageless-moisturizer/ by user270450 on apple.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: EnduraFlex Testo Boost Trial Reviews by sarageorgel on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

Magisch

Thats why we have art as ~~monkey herder~~ project director

Glorfindel

@SmokeDetector k

iBug

10:43 AM

Things start to get complex

I have a small issue

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: No internet after VPN connection by daver on superuser.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto @iBug)

tpu- by Glorfindel

iBug

Phone numbers starting with 234 is already covered by Line 233.

Glorfindel

^ well, that spammer is obviously proficient in using a proxy. Otherwise, they would've hit SpamRam a couple of times already ...

@iBug yeah, that should've been line 234 for maximum effect.

iBug

There's still a lot of dedicated lines like 425, 461, 533, 549, 564 and so on.

Magisch

@Glorfindel proxies are finite

iBug

10:47 AM

Just open that page and use your browser's search function. Look for 234 and there are 11 results. 10 are dupes,

Magisch

our flags only in theory

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: Apps did not download after vpn is connected by Abdul Wahab on android.SE (@iBug)

fp- by paper1111

iBug

@SmokeDetector f

No. Only 9 are dupes. Line 952 isn't dupe.

Magisch

I wonder why we have 234 starting blacklisted and also 9 variations of specific numbers that are caught in that filter to begin with

!!/test-a 2348032214238

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught as an answer.

iBug

10:49 AM

Shall we remove the 9 dupe lines and remove the rest?

@Magisch Line 234 only catches +23400000000

Magisch

not sure, they might do something different each

iBug

If there isn't a preceding plus sign then it won't get caught.

!!/test 23400000000

SmokeDetector

> Numbers-only title
----------
Title - Position 1-12: 23400000000

iBug

!!/test +23400000000

SmokeDetector

> Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, numbers-only title
----------
Title - Position 2-13: 23400000000
Title - Position 1-13: +23400000000
Body - Position 2-13: 23400000000
Username - Position 2-13: 23400000000

iBug

10:50 AM

@Magisch See the response. Got it?

Magisch

hmm

iBug

I propose to remove that positive lookahead as well as the dupe lines.

NVZ

is there any script for chat that puts a different background color for each user's message? At most the colors should affect only those users who have been actively chatting for a while...

iBug

There's rarely any valid reason for a pattern like 234[0-9]{8,}

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Not able to use Facebook on mobile network by daxter on android.SE (@iBug)

tpu- by Glorfindel

iBug

10:52 AM

@SmokeDetector tpu-

paper1111

@iBug Wait I'm confused... What do you want to do

NVZ

@SmokeDetector wow. too many from that site.

ArtOfCode

@NVZ not that I know of

iBug

Change line 233 into "234\d{8,14}" and remove dupes.

ArtOfCode

@Magisch I like the title Monkey Herder

NVZ

10:53 AM

@ArtOfCode hmm.. so would it be possible? what do you think?

iBug

The pattern (?<=\+) is a positive lookbehind.

ArtOfCode

Maybe I should put that on my CV instead of PD

Magisch

@ArtOfCode payback for calling me PR person

Glorfindel

!!/whois monkey_herder

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel That is not a user level I can check. I know about code_admin, admin

ArtOfCode

10:54 AM

@NVZ definitely possible, someone just needs to write it

paper1111

!!/blacklist-keyword individualproxy

SmokeDetector

@paper1111 Blacklisted individualproxy

NVZ

@ArtOfCode ah, where shall i request for one? stackapps?

paper1111

^^^ 5/5 over 44 mins

iBug

I'm not really going to do so (submit a PR removing those dupes).

If a code admin agrees then he can proceed.

NVZ

10:56 AM

this old one seems like a spam to me, but went unnoticed for years.. android.stackexchange.com/a/113696/102422

SmokeDetector

CI on a4a8590 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a4a8590 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of individualproxy by paper1111 --autopull) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 16385.

iBug

Maybe it's good to submit an issue.

SmokeDetector

CI on 27a6f4b succeeded.

ArtOfCode

@NVZ dunno, do SA do script requests?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Medicinal drug may take away the burning? by clariceabaca on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: The Benefits of daily choice hemp oil by Antre arry on drupal.SE

tpu- by Glorfindel

tpu- by Glorfindel on Medicinal drug may take away the burning? [MS]

Glorfindel

11:03 AM

@NVZ there is a precedent for this.

iBug

I'm out for dinner.

See you impressive guys later.

Issue submitted.

NVZ

@Glorfindel thanks

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: musclebuildingbuy.com/muscle-ss-boost/ by mndfbvg on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by J F

iBug

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 27a6f4b (ArtOfCode: Merge pull request #1441 from iBug/master) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Restart: API quota is 16262.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Windows 10 upgrade failing with "Win10UpgradeProgramInChina" events in Event Viewer by windowsusers121 on superuser.com (@TetsuyaYamamoto @iBug)

NVZ

11:13 AM

@SmokeDetector Doesn't answer the question, I'm afraid.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by NVZ

iBug

@ArtOfCode What does LGTM mean in your comment to my PR?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title: If I want to build up a website to offer bitcoin exchange service, how to add my site to bitcoin.org/en/exchanges by tomtomasgreen on bitcoin.SE

fp- by paper1111

NVZ

@iBug probably this: github.com/lgtmco/lgtm

paper1111

@iBug Looks Good To Me

@NVZ Nah we use !!/approve if memory serves me correct

SmokeDetector

11:15 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: This correspondent by en masse of 5 by Neshe19 00 on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

iBug

Ah, acronym.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by J F

ArtOfCode

@iBug looks good to me(rge)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: how to add comment in php and html by lalit joshi on stackoverflow.com (@quartata @iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto @paper1111)

iBug

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

11:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Cannot Leave a Review about an Extension Installed at Magento Marketplace? by vanessanie on magento.SE

iBug

@SmokeDetector fp-

!!/help unblu

SmokeDetector

@iBug I'm SmokeDetector a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

iBug

!!/rmblu magento.stackexchange.com/users/58808

SmokeDetector

@iBug User is not blacklisted.

fp- by paper1111

iBug

B...lacklisted user???

paper1111

11:24 AM

@iBug FP unblacklists user

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: www.healthyorder.org/daily-choice-hemp-oil/ by Eved1950 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by paper1111

iBug

@paper1111 Roger that.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: x4peak.com/ultra-boost-supercharge/ by StevenBrandon on apple.SE

tpu- by J F

J F

@NVZ github.com/honnza/drops/raw/master/so-chat-user-colors.user.js

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: Log out from Google account on Android 6.0.1 by Milan Miscevic on android.SE (@iBug)

fp- by paper1111

iBug

11:43 AM

@SmokeDetector fp-

Invalid bad keyword "Google"

Kinda sorta invalid.

Oh I've had my dinner and am back :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Aging Healthy Skin Care Products by betymury on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Top Natual Skin Care Brands For Your Skin Type by user778183 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: order4healthsupplement.com/testo-ss-boost/ by Timo Addis on graphicdesign.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Videonauth

tpu- by Videonauth on Top Natual Skin Care Brands For Your Skin Type [MS]

tpu- by Videonauth on Aging Healthy Skin Care Products [MS]

paper1111

sd 3- 3k

iBug

sd 3- 3k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +1 more: How To Get Lutrevia Skin Care In Spain? by Lutrevia on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard @quartata @TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- by Glorfindel

iBug

sd - k

SmokeDetector

11:54 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: How to animate stretchable muscles? by jeff on blender.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, blacklisted user: How can Find Affiliate Developer Partner? by Create My Free App CMA on softwareengineering.SE

fp- by paper1111 on How to animate stretchable muscles? [MS]

fp feedback on autoflagged post: How to animate stretchable muscles?

tpu- by paper1111

Mithrandir

@SmokeDetector f

@SmokeDetector k

paper1111

@SmokeDetector autoflagged

SmokeDetector

@paper1111 That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: MAR, Ashish Ahuja, NVZ.

iBug

sd 4- k f