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12:32 AM

Meet Sandsifter, the world's first truly exhaustive x86 ISA fuzzer: github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/sandsifter

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This is a hacker's (and processor designer's!) power tool like nothing else out there.

> Sandsifter has uncovered secret processor instructions from every major vendor; ubiquitous software bugs in disassemblers, assemblers, and emulators; flaws in enterprise hypervisors; and both benign and security-critical hardware bugs in x86 chips.

why though?

We all implicitly trust the processors that run our software, but nobody's subjected them to deep analysis of this sort.

Until now.

ok

Journeyman Geek

I implicitly trust it would be too much trouble :p

my neighbour is watching movies loudly

the other night he was watching mama mia at 4am

i was lying in bed trying to sleep suffering through abba covers

forcing someone to listen to abba should carry the death penalty

12:50 AM

github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/sandsifter/blob/master/references/…

1:00 AM

does ford make an electric car?

Ford Focus Electric

The Ford Focus Electric is a 5-door hatchback electric car produced by Ford. The Focus Electric is Ford's second full production, all-electric vehicle (the first being the Ford Ranger EV), and production began in December 2011. The Focus Electric shares the glider of a third generation Ford Focus. Its electric powertrain originally used a 23 kWh liquid-cooled lithium-ion battery pack, which delivers a range of 76 mi (122 km) according to the United States Environmental Protection Agency. The 2017 model uses a 35 kWh liquid-cooled lithium-ion battery pack which delivers an range of 115 mi (185 km...

hmm... i wonder if they have one at the dealership tomorrow

i feel i should at least test an electric car to see if they are any fun

1:19 AM

i'll be honest, ford don't seem to be fully on board with electric unlike nissan and VW

1:38 AM

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LOOK!

in the car park at my local ford dealership!

~~weird mars rovers~~ cherry pickers

nn

Night

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why?

we didn't lose power and I haven't even had my desktop on

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3:44 AM

@Rahul2001 @ me when you get online

4:20 AM

@Avery Telegram?

@Avery Okay, telegram isn't working

Gossipmonger please

alrighty

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6:37 AM

inspirobot.me

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o/

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I lol'd

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6:41 AM

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@djsmiley2k lol

I think that should be our room motto ;D

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bored then @allquixotic /:D

7:01 AM

New CSS ruined YouTube

hm

@allquixotic O_O

Squirrels In My Pants - Phineas and Ferb - Official Video

Phineas and Ferb - Ain't Got Rhythm

Gitchee Gitchee Goo with lyrics

PHINEAS AND FERB!!!!

7:34 AM

@allquixotic the problem is that you are running on half 240V :p

1. Google search "How to keep privacy on internet". 2. Drown in irony. .@duckduckgo

Tweeted by rahuldottech on July 29, 2017 at 7:43 AM

8:23 AM

@Rahul2001 ...

Ridiculing those who try to educate themslves

9:18 AM

Boooooooooooored

5 hours sleep, yet I feel more awake than I have all week?!

The Pierces "Boring"

9:31 AM

lol

at work

might pop some music on my headphones in a lil while

9:44 AM

Never thought I would ask a question here like this

It's always DNS.

not in my case

@Learner What question?

This one

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Q: How to make disk usable

I had a tv recorder with 1 TB WD 3.5 drive... I removed the drive and attached it to my computer. Now I can see it in disk management but not in my computer, I think it's because it's on a different file system ? How can I make it use-able on my computer ? and possibly in future attach it back t...

@Learner Your point is? We don't normally dump our questions in chat after only 15 minutes hoping to get a faster answer.

9:54 AM

Straight off, it'll be either encrypted, or a propriety format from the manufacturer.

@DavidPostill i didn't you asked for it :)

@Learner Not exactly - "Never thought I would ask a question here like this"

@DavidPostill To be hoenst it's funny, you fall in trap and now blaming me lol

@Learner You do realise it is dangerous to set traps for moderators? :)

Hey, let's antagonise a mod of the site we're trying to get an answer on...

9:59 AM

I think it was a light weight joke ;)

10:12 AM

Done, thank you used DiskPart

10:40 AM

@Learner He who sets traps for dragons, must realise dragons are traps for him

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank or ext of some flavour

with some crazy internal file structure

twitches

roar

Was up by 4:45 today. Didn't exactly sleep well

11:07 AM

i had 5 hours sleep, and forgot my pills. I feel AWESOME

I need to figure out how to do my pills before work, so I can sleep like this every night

@JourneymanGeek you should get that looked at :P

11:26 AM

> A new release of ZOL is available for running the ZFS file-system natively on Linux. This ZFS On Linux v0.7 update does bring a number of new features.

ZFS On Linux 0.7 introduces resumable send/receive support, compressed send/receive, multiple import protection, scrub pause/resume capabilities, delegations, large dnodes, cryptographic checksums, JBOD management, and a wide array of performance improvements.

Among the performance work in ZFS On Linux 0.7 is compressed ARC, vectorized RAIDZ, vectorized checksums, GZIP compression offloading, metadata performance work, and faster RAIDZ r…

wonder when that'll hit Ubuntu 16.04

(for my dedi)

with laptop chargers is it ok to go a little over on amps?

@Burgi probably depends on its chineseum content

well this one claims to be an official toshiba one

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi there's often more than one varient...

so its usually fine if its official

@Bob I was once tasked with attempting data recovery on a pure chinesium DVR...

it was one of those models that got hacked and... it was an amazingly annoying process

@Burgi how much is 'a little'

I'd be wary of something actually pulling the full amount in the first place...

11:44 AM

@Burgi over how?

what's the rating on either end?

Journeyman Geek

(old thinkpads had 45 and 60w varient PSUs)

@JourneymanGeek Dell do this a lot

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@allquixotic the compressed ARC and ABD sound useful

there was a reason I wanted ABD but I can't remember now...

12:10 PM

What's ABD?

@djsmiley2k wiki.freebsd.org/201602StorageSummit/ZFS

> ABD (ARC Buf Data) - filling the ARC with scatter-gather list of page_t's instead of contiguous kernel VA

ah k

12:30 PM

That moment someone tells you their email address.... @yahoo.com

-_-

12:41 PM

haah Systemd... theregister.co.uk/2017/07/28/black_hat_pwnie_awards

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2:24 PM

@djsmiley2k Not me, I use neither.

hi

Just updated my main server to openSUSE Leap 42.3 yesterday. It's still systemd.

@bwDraco What model is your server?

Linode VPS. 1 GB plan.

KVM virtualization. Single-core Xeon, 1 GB RAM, 20 GB storage, 1 TB outbound transit. $5/month.

Cool. $5/mo sounds very affordable.

@bwDraco Do you run, like, hypervisors?

2:37 PM

It's a VPS, so you can't really run VMs on top.

XD I'm trying to learn. My apologies for dumb questions.

@bwDraco Ok, so what do you use the VPS for mostly?

Fortunately, it's easy to spin up new instances and copy data in a matter of minutes.

@bwDraco Sure you can, you just need kvm with nested virt

@Nick I have two servers, both 1 GB. One runs my (barebones) website and a custom Firefox Sync instance, the other is a VNC "cloud desktop".

some (most?) VPS providers enable that

2:39 PM

@Bob Not sure this is possible on the host in question...

I've never tried it, and 1 GB isn't a lot of RAM for this.

@Nick I've been a Linode customer for almost four years. Started out when their servers ran $20 for 1 GB.

@bwDraco So, it's like 20GB hosting space?

It's 20 GB disk space. Since it's a VPS, you have root access.

You can partition it in any way you see fit.

@bwDraco I can give you some of my RAM. Is that possible via cloud?

Eh, not really.

It's bound to the host.

XD It should be, shouldn't it? It would be a lot easier if people could share computing with eachother.

2:45 PM

I'm not low or anything.

Journeyman Geek

You can just download moar ram

Can I have a looksee at your barebone website? @bwDraco

@Nick fierydragonlord.com

@bwDraco Wow, you only pay $5/mo for that!? That's super neat. I love linode!

You can do far more than you think with 1 GB of RAM.

@Nick Also consider DigitalOcean.

You're on shared hosting, I suppose?

On a VPS, you need to set up all the server software yourself unless you pay for managed service.

Linode has some excellent tutorials you can go through.

2:50 PM

@bwDraco I have a local community for DigitalOcean. I should probably join them.

Also, that webpage is just some relatively simple responsive CSS and HTML, with a little sprinkle of PHP.

@bwDraco Your site looks like it was autogenerated from an Evernote note... or perhaps, a trial of Jekyll.

@Nick It's handcoded.

@bwDraco Hide some ASCII ducks meowing or something in the sauce code. Those are fun easter eggs to have on any site.

I knew someone who got their DO account locked because their server got compromised. Hence, the first thing you need to do is replacing password authentication with public key auth.

I didn't make that mistake, but make sure the most obvious points of entry are secured. Fail2ban can provide an extra line of defense.

The CSS is at fierydragonlord.com/styles.css:

html {
    font-family: Candara, Calibri, Optima, "Liberation Sans", "Arial Light", sans-serif;
    font-size: large;
}
p {
    text-align: justify;
}
img {
    max-width: 100%;
}
blockquote {
    background-color: #F0F0F0;
    margin-left:32px;
    margin-right:32px;
}
footer {
    font-size: smaller;
}

.code {
    font-family: Consolas, "Courier New", "Liberation Mono", "Droid Sans Mono", monospace;
    background-color: #F0F0F0;
}
.top-header {
    color: darkred;
    text-decoration: none;

2:58 PM

Public key auth reminds me... My dad used to work on and manage AS/400 systems. I'd sit all day in his server room whenever I wasn't too well to go to school or whenever I was too lazy. He had this thing called RSA Secure ID. It was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. It's a thing on the keychain that tells you your new password.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@NotDog I know this is you, Dog. You're not fooling anybody.

That's actually two-factor. You can do this on your phone today.

Journeyman Geek

I have something similar on my phone

I would love some names :D

2:59 PM

Google Authenticator.

play.google.com/store/apps/…

A lot of online services support it. Linode supports it. Microsoft supports it. Yahoo supports it. Ubisoft (Uplay) supports it.

Could I make a two-factor thingy? Is that hard? A keychain that has a dirty word as the password, which keeps changing at some random interval of time. How would I get started on that project?

2FA has gone mainstream.

@Nick It's already implemented in software as a smartphone app. Don't roll your own crypto.

2 mins ago, by bwDraco

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.authentica‌tor2&hl=en

@bwDraco Aww, I thought dirty word passphrases in l33t5p34k would be trendy XD

Time-based One-time Password Algorithm

The Time-based One-Time Password algorithm (TOTP) is an algorithm that computes a one-time password from a shared secret key and the current time. It has been adopted as Internet Engineering Task Force standard RFC 6238, is the cornerstone of Initiative For Open Authentication (OATH), and is used in a number of two-factor authentication systems. TOTP is an example of a hash-based message authentication code (HMAC). It combines a secret key with the current timestamp using a cryptographic hash function to generate a one-time password. Because network latency and out-of-sync clocks can result in...

Google Authenticator implements TOTP.

You know, I have never learnt as much in a lecture hall as much as I learn by just asking questions in this room.

@bwDraco Google Inc. has too much stuff. So much stuff. I wonder if they need a curator.

3:05 PM

@Nick This is why they're restructured. Alphabet Inc. is the parent company of Google.

Alphabet Inc. is an American multinational conglomerate created in a corporate restructuring on October 2, 2015. It is the parent company of Google and several former Google subsidiaries. The two founders of Google assumed executive roles in the new company, with Larry Page serving as CEO and Sergey Brin as President. The company is based in Mountain View, California. It has over 72,053 employees as of 2017. Alphabet's portfolio encompasses several industries, including technology, life sciences, investment capital, and research. Some of its subsidiaries include Google, Calico, GV, CapitalG, Verily...

@bwDraco Yeah, I'll try implementing TOTP one day. I like trying to do what other people do if I find it interesting enough.

Have fun :)

@bwDraco I hope they buy my company. What are they looking for exactly?

Google had way too many different businesses. Alphabet helped separate non-core businesses from Google while keeping them under one umbrella.

I see Alphabet bought Nest. My parents bought an apartment from Nest once, I think. Or maybe they just tried. Anyhow, it didn't have no IoT, man.\

3:09 PM

During the restructuring, Niantic Labs, developer of Ingress and Pokémon GO, was spun off into an independent company. (Niantic started as a Google internal startup.)

@bwDraco OMG! I didn't know that. #TIL Niantic was pooped out by Google.

You know your company is swag when you have "internal startups". Wow XD

3:25 PM

superuser.com/questions/154912/… << Anti Trump trash

Flagged as NAA.

@Ramhound Rude/Abusive has taken care of it :)

Whatever the takes. Typically that type of thing is submitted multiple times tSo flagged it as spam (but that's just me)

@Ramhound Same end result :) User has been nuked.

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A: no "Windows subsystem for Linux (Beta)" available

I followed this instruction: Install Linux bash on windows but there is no "Windows subsystem for Linux (Beta)" available. You don't have an eligible build of Windows 10 installed. You have 1511 but you need to have 1607 or 1703 installed. can anyone help for solving this issue? Insta...

I feel bad about answering this question

I mean it's a honest mistake I am sure but seriously it the requirements are right in the linked article

3:37 PM

@Ramhound Don't feel bad about correcting misconceptions :)

@Ramhound for you that's a rather.... friendly answer

:)

@djsmiley2k What are you talking about

Every single one of my answers are friendly

Commentary isn't an answer

ok

haha

Not saying I shouldn't always be friendly but saying I am always friendly in an answer

Rumors: Core i7-8700K (Coffee Lake) will have 6 cores and the fastest clock frequencies yet: 3.7-4.7 GHz. videocardz.com/71307/…

(Turbo 47/46/44/44/43/43.)

My gut tells me overclockers will be able to push past 5.2 GHz on these chips.

What will AMD's answer be?

3:51 PM

That's Intel's answer to AMDs next release

Forget the name

Price drops? Mid-generation refreshes? Ryzen's clock speeds are already pushing the limits of the GlobalFoundries 14nm process.

@Ramhound Pinnacle Ridge?

Intel's 10nm is already behind schedule, and by the time 10nm processors are available, AMD may have the honor of selling the world's first 7nm processors. (No kidding!)

No Throtlle something

The base 6 core is an answer to AMD doing it with Ryzen/Throttle

The increased base frequency might be just because of process improvements since going to their 3 release schedule

Threadripper?

That's an HEDT platform. It's priced well above any mainstream processor.

(12C/24T @ 3.5-4.0 GHz will cost $799.)

Yes that's it. Intel improves their consumer models before HEDT (i.e Xeon and the new metallic cores (I.e i9s)

> The naming of process nodes by different major manufacturers (TSMC, Intel, Samsung, GloFo) is partially marketing driven and not directly related to any measurable distance on a chip - for example TSMC's 7nm node is similar in some key dimensions to Intel's 10nm node.

4:04 PM

@Bob GlobalFoundries 7nm is expected to be slightly smaller than Intel 10nm.

Not a true 7nm process but enough to grant a process advantage.

I did do my research here.

@bwDraco The transistor gate pitch and interconnect pitch for GlobalFoundaries 7nm is bigger than Intel 10nm, as listed on Wikipedia

Odd...

Did this change?

Ah.

> As nodes have become more difficult to hit, each foundry has adopted various methods of defining what constitutes a node shrink. This is most apparent with Intel; its 10nm node is expected to be equivalent to 7nm from TSMC.

extremetech.com/computing/…

Well, the problem is that Intel outspends everyone else in R&D. It's a miracle that AMD isn't dead.

@Glorfindel Your making valid edits to answers that are not actually answers might stick with better quality answers to improve

Like this: superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/678005

4:10 PM

That AMD is able to match or beat Intel's latest architecture in performance per watt with a half-node process disadvantage and far less R&D money is a miracle, full stop.

HAMMERTIME!

@bwDraco I don't see that as a problem

The problem is when fabs start misrepresenting their processes with funny marketing (read: lies)

Intel does that too, tbh

hard to say what is actually 10nm. or actually 12nm. etc..

Yeah.

AMD used to be behind by two full process nodes.

@bwDraco this one claims TSMC and GF 7nm will be slightly denser than Intel 10nm

Yeah. Conflicting information.

4:19 PM

mostly on cell height, not pitch sizes, for TSMC

I suspect the two will be about the same. Even parity with Intel's most advanced process is a huge deal.

GlobalFoundries uses Samsung's process tech

Right now, AMD (GlobalFoundries) is about half a process node behind Intel.

Calibri Font is now BBC News Pakistani corruption case hinges on a font :)

Nobody has quoted me yet :/

you collapsed a government!

@Burgi No I didn't! I was defending the government! I said nobody could prove that the font wasn't available!

@DavidPostill Oh look, more info. Signed documents. So, printouts most likely. I wonder just how thorough the font ID was, cause there are fonts that look similar...

4:30 PM

for this whole thing tl;dr

PANOSE match?

is it that the documents can't be real, because they are printed/signed using a font that wasn't out at the specified time?

@djsmiley2k that's the allegation

but everyone is focusing on the font not being out

meanwhile I'm wondering whether they even identified the font correctly

@Bob nod

looks like there aren't many fonts that look that similar

so maybe it was an easy job :P

4:34 PM

was the font the default for something at the proposed 'fake' time?

@djsmiley2k doesn't matter the government has collapsed because of it

MSI® HOW-TO Install AMD X399 CPU

Thats one big CPU!

the rumour is that the army had a hand in the court proceedings

crap

my old sofa doesn't have a fire regulation label on it so no charity will collect it :(

@Ramhound, on the Politics site, that answer would have been wildly upvoted.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/…

I fear Trump may have instructed CBP and ICE officers to just be ruthless about it. He does have the power to pardon anyone for any crime for any or no reason.

salon.com/2017/07/22/…

4:46 PM

@djsmiley2k That's what they are claiming.

If investigations reveal that CBP/ICE officers are being instructed to disregard the law under the insurance of presidential pardons, this may be grounds for impeachment as abuse of power.

IN 2013?

> The video shows that in 2013 two U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers appeared to encourage, or at least permit, a 16-year-old Mexican high school student to drink from a bottle that tests would later reveal contained concentrated liquid methamphetamine.

Do this thing, I'll let you off in 4 years when I'm president.

Similar cruelty is happening under Trump.

tbh the 'drink it' thing is a actual thing here.

@bwDraco but.... if it was happening in 2013, you can't really blame him

Yes, he's not 'stopping' it, but he didn't start it either.

Good morning everyone

4:50 PM

It's ongoing and likely actively encouraged (in defiance of court orders and the law) by Trump.

lol ok

@Bob One theory is that they didn't have the original documents. So they printed them again (and signed them). The reprint was done with the font that was then now available.

no wait!

success!

:O

the stupid label is on the bottom

4:52 PM

in the only place you're almost sure it won't get rubbed off of

my living room is a mess

i have two sofas and 13 PC towers

this DBAN thing is taking FOREVER

@djsmiley2k lol. I was about to complain about your grammar and then I found this:

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Q: How can I explain to people that the phrase “off of ” is grammatically incorrect?

How can I explain to people that the phrase off of is grammatically incorrect? I‘ve heard this phrase used a lot, especially by Americans (though they aren't the only ones). In my understanding, off of should usually be replaced by off, as in, I took the book off the shelf as opposed to...

grammaticality prepositions phrasal-verbs off-of

of from?

err off from ?

@djsmiley2k exactly. but apparently off of is ok ...

... yeah, irony.

:D

It's decided by educational speakers

4:57 PM

It is a bit Merkin though ...

I'm not one of them.

Merkin?

isn't that the genital wig?

> Off of does sound barbarous to the speaker of British received pronunciations but it's common (in every sene of the word) in regional dialects such as Cockney.

@djsmiley2k lol

>Merkin may refer to:

merkin, a pubic wig
a nickname for an American, usually, though not always, derogatory
Merkin Concert Hall in Manhattan, New York City
Merkin Ball, a two-song single by the American alternative rock band Pearl Jam

anyone need any SIMM RAM?

Whoa ANCIENT

What sort of device was it taken from?

4:59 PM

Anyone got a MAC SE for that. Or my old Tandon 386SX-16 @ 16MHz (4x256MB for 700 guilders per MB)

But it ran windows 2.01 sooo much better with 2MiB rather than 1MiB

I can just picture her Majesty saying "Off of his neck with his head" with appropriate received English accent :)

@bwDraco a PC

I only got one PC which is from before SIMMs
and it runs at 4,,77MHz.

IBM Personal Computer? wut.

i have 3x 8MB, 4x 4MB and 2x unknown (probably 8MB) sticks

5:04 PM

Whoa. 8MiB per SIMM? Those are huge?

IBM XT portable

"Yes, he's not 'stopping' it, but he didn't start it either. " there is absolutely no proof it's happening today

I have only 4 MiB Simms

I gave it it the hostname 'hernia'

With buil din full sides keyboard and 7' ambert CRT

ok i just googled the 2 unknown ones and they are 16MB each

What kind of server accepted those. Are they rank-4?

5:06 PM

they are from desktops

if you want it, message me on steam or something and i'll pop them in the post

i have a crap ton of DIMM too

I just got rid of everything older than DDR-2

But I am impressed.

Ebay them for a ton of memory.

wow SIMM is quite expensive on ebay

Stupid. I should have said 'Yes, please!. And ebay them'>
Seriously. 16MB SIMM is big, pretty darn uber big.
And someone will have a need for them. Making them happy

@DavidPostill That's the other one I suggested the other day - that someone got a default font while opening the doc. But back then I assumed it was electronic. Re-printing/signing would be dodgy.

@Hennes they have listings for 512MB SIMM on ebay

5:15 PM

512MB aor 512 MiB. The difference is a factor 8

I am surprised by how many are on ebay

probably 512 Mbit

And by the flash back. "fast page mode" "enhance data ouput" (EDO)

ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-SIMM-4x512Mb-Memory-Module-RAM-Samsung-Nanya-/…

max for 75 pin simm is 128MB unless it's for printers.

I paid over my moth salary for 1MiB then they came out. I just relised how old I am

5:20 PM

looks like a single stick of 2MB is roughly worth £5

5:30 PM

mannnnnnnn

at old jorb was lots (hundreds?) of old ram sticks

EDO DRAM, RDRAM, oh my!

(who remembers Pentium 4 processors using RDRAM when Athlon 64 CPUs had an IMC that accepted DDR memory?)

one of these machines is a dual core pentium

K8 pioneered the integrated memory controller. The P4 platform put the memory controller on the northbridge and had horrendous memory latency.

For workloads that fit mostly in cache, P4 did well, but for virtually everything else, AMD had both an absolute performance advantage and a performance-per-watt advantage.

but no-one bought the AMD chip...

Blame it on Intel bribing OEMs.

We still have a Dell desktop from the AMD K8 golden age. It still runs remarkably well. The processor and motherboard have never been replaced, although RAM was upgraded from 2 GB to 4 GB.

It's almost ten years old, mind you.

Jul 15 '16 at 22:47, by bwDraco

(Machine records indicate that initial install was on October 15, 2007.)

Socket AM2.

@Burgi Was it one of those 2C/4T Extreme Edition MCMs?

5:44 PM

dunno

you want te service tag?

You can try to look it up and point to the product page...

Also, try running CPU-Z.

May 8 '15 at 17:20, by DragonLord

Presler multi-chip module, 2C/4T @ 3.73 GHz.

@bwDraco dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukbsdt1/product-support/servicetag/…

ark.intel.com/products/31733/…

@Burgi It's a rebadged C2D (Conroe). That's way better than any NetBurst-based Pentium.

ah

(2C/2T Conroe (Core) @ 2.0 GHz.)

5:51 PM

brb nap

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@bwDraco, I was finally able to play that video about the border issue. Yes, it's outrageous, but for perspective, the number of complaints they have, even if they are all for that one location, would be roughly one per million crossings. Considering the level of criminal activity, officer frustration, etc., that hardly seems like the epidemic of abuse insinuated by the ABC story.

Well, it might be overblown, but Trump isn't helping.

In other news, I learned today from reading Windows Internals that the main session manager process turns its priority up to 11

@bwDraco, With less officer frustration, any abuse is likely to decrease. In any workplace, there are a few bad apples. The rate for the border patrol appears surprisingly low.

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7:33 PM

##caaaaaaaaaat

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7:59 PM

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