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12:01 AM
I think what really makes it is the review.
It's somone's job to review these products seriously, even though it's quite obviously that grinding the edges of your optical discs is not going to make the audio less "2-dimensional".
 
 
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1:50 AM
Still looking for desktop socketed Broadwell with Iris Pro Graphics and a massive 128MB L4 cache? Newegg still sells the i7-5775C.
I really wish they pursued the eDRAM concept further for desktop platforms. Even if the IGP sees no use, the L4$ enables extremely high performance per clock and per watt in memory-intensive applications.
On some games, it's been shown to outperform the higher-clocked i7-4790K while consuming significantly less power.
This is basically a Broadwell-H mobile chip scaled up to run at a higher TDP for desktop platforms.
Ignore most of the negative reviews on Amazon for this chip - only one of them are backed by a verified purchase.
Top review on Amazon (emphasis added):
> This CPU easily overclocks to 4.2GHz on a Z97 motherboard and outperforms my 6700k at 4.8GHz due to the 128MB eDRAM dedicated to L4 cache when using a separate GPU. Beyond that, this is also the best CPU currently available for building a compact machine without a dedicated GPU due to graphics outperforming Skylake by a wide margin.
I really wish they did this more. Intel is leaving so much performance on the table. The advantage of a 128 MB L4$ cannot be underestimated.
eDRAM is soooooooo underrated.
 
2:19 AM
It's like, the technology for a quantum leap in performance and efficiency is there but Intel refuses to use it.
Totally baffling.
The eDRAM L4$ is capable of producing a massive improvement in IPC. Why in Oblivion are processor designers not doing this???
##/extraheaddesk
 
##/facepalm
 
Totally baffling. I just don't get why.
 
2:41 AM
AMD: Instead of just using dummies to fill the TR4 package on Threadripper, why not use the space to add eDRAM?
 
2:57 AM
prolly heat and $$$$ ?
 
The biggest technical advantage with eDRAM is that it cuts memory latency for large memory accesses. Main memory still has much higher latency than L3$. eDRAM L4$ bridges this gap, accelerating performance.
I think manufacturability is a factor here. It isn't exactly cheap or easy to make.
Doubt thermals would be a serious issue.
Not as hard to manufacture as HBM2 (one of the reasons AMD's run into so much trouble getting Vega on the market), but still.
 
3:55 AM
@Bob What is a "locked bag" in the context of an Australia address?
is that like a P.O. Box?
A private mail bag, locked bag or caller service is a term for a special form of postal delivery in some countries, usually a government department or large private company, which receive large volumes of mail. Private mail bag addresses are often used in countries in Africa where there may be no street delivery service. In Europe and North America, where street delivery is more commonplace, large users may be allocated their own postal codes, and consequently need only use their physical address in correspondence; the postal code implies that the recipient receives mail by caller service. ��2...
answered my own question
 
4:19 AM
 
I'm feeling queasy for no obvious reason :(
 
 
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5:48 AM
yaaaawn
@bwDraco hmmm forgotten to eat? :/
 
6:00 AM
@MichaelFrank I sense it's a parody.
> Experiments coloring the CD edge with black or green felt-tip did not bring satisfying results.
 
@djsmiley2k oddly enough...
enough evidence that it isn't
 
yeah
tho i feel like it's a school project or something.
it's very well done if so
 
I mean
It's CD
that's a digital format
like, it stores music as files
 
the quality cannot be improved
 
6:04 AM
dude. You clearly don't have ears good enough to feel the difference
 
fite me
 
and probably use regular plebian power cords that have not been burnt in properly
 
I listen to flac only
 
like some kind of peasant.
I colour all my hard disk platter edges green - it improved the quality of my flacs of 4:33
 
@JourneymanGeek my unidirectional gold plated powercords r better.
 
6:06 AM
... you guys make me sad I cannot share the legend of patrick properly with you guys...
 
drowning a turntable in mineral oil gives much better audio quality than playing outside
 
Has to be all natural mineral oil tho
none of that synthetic stuff
 
yeah
 
Patrick?
 
well no
it needs to be green
people have their own choices of getting green but I prefer hemp oil
 
6:07 AM
something something -- from a live beaver.
 
There used to be this forum thread of a guy with a 10,000 dollar power cable
bitten by a rabbit...
 
oh right :D
what xD
 
and other such crazy nonsense.
 
Some trolls are good ;)
 
6:09 AM
Is there a review of Tuning Dots?
 
Bob
@allquixotic similar
>
Is your PO Box too full?
You can combine your PO Box with a Locked Bag to get more room, and you'll be able to keep the same address. Just speak to the friendly counter staff where your Post Office Box is.
:P
A locked bag is when you have so much mail it won't fit in a PO box
it's the step above a "large" PO box
 
@djsmiley2k Perhaps he got all his eating for the day done at once? Kept eating until he couldn't consume another bite...
 
@MichaelFrank maaaaaybe
tho i'd expect him to know then :D
 
6:24 AM
@Bob interesting
 
@allquixotic o_O
 
I know
we did this yesterday :P
but that one :D
 
with an iphone SE or similar :D
looks like they're using TouchID
Apple Pay, maybe?
 
That's...... true it seems
 
6:36 AM
lol
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...that sounds like an argument against kickstarter :P
 
Harsh? XD
 
6:57 AM
lol
 
Hahahah have you seen it go 'wrong' @allquixotic?
 
@djsmiley2k 0_0
 
7:14 AM
that's.... concerning? XD
 
7:25 AM
What we upto on this wonderful Sunday/Otherday
 
isn't it, like, Wednesday already in Australia?
 
It's not even Monday in NZ and we're the most in the future.
 
##wiki sarcasm
 
But hey... Australia is known to defy the laws on Mathematics...
 
7:43 AM
prepping a lubuntu VHD to test my new disk thing
 
7:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek let me know how it is, it's a really interesting idea
 
@MichaelFrank I'd like a country to pass a law to outlaw encryption... FFA bank accounts.
 
for some reason the lubuntu install (I'm trying to install it to a VHD in virtualbox) is super slow
 
@JourneymanGeek I was just using a Linux VM on Ubuntu 16.04 with VMware and it was super fast
 
@allquixotic it usually is
 
are you installing it directly onto the drive?
 
7:57 AM
naw
trying to create a VHD with the OS installed then moving it over
also going to test iso boot, but that's slightly later
(I suddenly went I HAVE A COOL THING AND I HAVE NOT PLAYED WITH IT)
 
0_0
this might take a while... or no time at all
 
hehe
I need to remember to automate my now working backup scripts
:O
 
I'm watcvhing this is only a test. They're talking about that guy who built his own turbine jetpack...
and he used a turbine as a leaf blower to clear off the place before take off...
SOOO COOOOOL
 
8:12 AM
:D
not watched yet.
currently listening to hello internet
 
pretty hard for me to find that sorta time
and anything with Adam takes priority ;p
 
Nod
yeah he's amazing
but.... most of this is only a test doesn't have adam anymore does it?
Or is that the one that specifically features him?
/me watches two from tested, that and the other one., XD
 
that's why its a low priority ;p
Still Untitled is the one with adam. I don't watch creaturegeek
this is only a test is mixed, but low prority since the new job
 
Right yeah
So I watch Still untitled, and This is only a test.
I'm glad Will is mostly gone tbh
I find him really obnoxious
 
8:35 AM
@Avery, the price tag on that HDMI cable does include shipping and handling (not sure about insurance, though).
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank just turnbull things
it's the same idiot who thought a mandatory filter was a good idea
I'm still not entirely sure how he's PM
 
because there's no IT test for being a PM?
then again, trump
 
@djsmiley2k eh. A bit. But that's amplified by norm being quiet with the other regulars
 
@JourneymanGeek yes but it's not just his volume
it's the fact he interupts, talks over others, doesn't listen, makes incorrect statements presenting them as fact....
and I don't like how tight his tee shirts are XD
Also I think these days, Norm is so much better.
 
posted on July 30, 2017

 
8:44 AM
 
@fixer1234 lol
 
9:02 AM
@fixer1234 let's see.
"does the job" hdmi cables cost ~$4.8 with S&H
I guess I can pay $995.2 more for better quality but $4.8 ones do the job
 
But is the $995.20 actually better quality?
 
9:19 AM
over a decent ~$20 cable? no.
over a $4.8 one? likely.
@Rahul2001 my refund for digispark finally is processed, it got approved.
 
@Avery Ah, nice
 
also getting one refund because seller didn't ship, and one more because I accidentally bought something twice
 
##afk Participating in online competition, will be back at ~2:30 PM UTC
 
so in the end I spent $54.68. That's kiinda a ton but at least I won't need stuff for a long time.
@Rahul2001 testing afk
 
9:35 AM
@Avery Rahul2001 is afk: Participating in online competition, will be back at ~2:30 PM UTC
 
what comp tho D:
 
@djsmiley2k programming
##afk Participating in online programming contest, will be back at ~2:30 PM UTC
 
bai then :P
 
10:02 AM
hm
THAT was a complete waste of time...
so the prebuilt install I did didn't work
buuuut I can boot off a iso, then install to the same VHD I just generated
which is sweet
 
Do we really want a shipping tag?
 
I vote no, !
 
@Hennes Probably not. Please ask on meta.
 
it's already ambigious looking at the whole 6 questions, lul
 
Yeah, will do the std question. Just hoping to get quick feedback here.
Which is a good option in pre-coffee morning.
 
10:09 AM
And there is that as well ...
 
Aye. But that one has more questions and might remotely be useful.
 
Arguable ... :)
 
-- remotely useful, is a awesome thread title :P
 
We should ask @JourneymanGeek. He is the top all time user for answers :)
 
0_0
HOOOOW?
they don't even let dogs on planes except as cargo
 
;)
Is this gonna make me laugh or something?
o_O that's a lot of pins
 
10:40 AM
Hey mods, please see these comments on this answer and tell me if there's something I did wrong for this 1 point rep barely over one sentence answer since a 4 year plus member with over 10,000 rep doesn't understand why I think this isn't an answer.
@McDonald's: I don’t believe that this is a great answer, but neither do I understand why you believe that it isn’t an answer. — Scott 3 hours ago
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A: Mysterious "Reference not valid"

Jay56On office for MAC, force quit the application. When you reopen the file, USUALLY everything is okay. How this would work for genuine Windows, I cannot guess.

 
@McDonald's not sure why Scott thinks it IS an answer concidering the question is 'how do I identify the error location in the pivot table'.
Someone answering 'Quit excel' clearly isn't an answer.
I've also flagged as NAA
 
ok
I SLIGHTLY messed up, but one can totally load a VHD on it, bootstrap an install off a iso, and get it to boot...
 
awesome
what's performance like?>
 
hmm
pretty good
I could bonny++ it?
Well, the idea is really relative convinience
and having a 4 vhd + iso multiboot is probably nice
and I threw in a random disk
 
nod
I mean, is it 'usable'?
I don't mind it even being... 'slow'
as long as it's not unusable
 
10:50 AM
@djsmiley2k thank you.... at least I'm not the only one.
 
but by the sound of it it's really nice @JourneymanGeek, grats
 
oh, Seems so yes
I do accidentally have a ubuntu boot option in the UEFI boot menu tho ._.
@djsmiley2k its a BIT clunky UI wise
 
You accidently ubuntu? ;D
 
if you didn't want the space/flexibility, they have a SSD version with physical buttons it seems
eh, PRETTY sure I told it to install the bootloader to the VHD
 
hmmm
did you stick a drive in it, or does it come with one?
or rather, is it swappable?
 
Bob
11:01 AM
 
o_O
messed up version of shrodingers?
 
the SKU I bought was install your own drive
I have a spare 1tb laptop drive anyway
 
yah, that's col
I much prefer things which let you choose your own
 
its a BIT bulky
but yanno
 
you never know what dodgy drive ur gonna get in one otherwise
 
11:04 AM
yup
this is essentially those zalman drives, OEM
hm I THINK yoi need to turn off fastboot for these to work too
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek HDD, though... eww
 
20
A: How do I properly use the "Not an Answer" flag?

WrzlprmftWhat is the not an answer flag? The not an answer flag (NAA) is a flag to indicate that someone used the "answer the question" box to post something that isn't really an answer. It usually pushes an answer to the low-quality queue, where its fate is decided by reviewers. If it stays there for to...

 
Bob
2
Q: Is it possible to change the owner of folder through the Registry in Windows?

KirillCan I change the owner of folder through the Windows Registry? If yes, where are the settings for the folder on the Desktop?

sigh
again with the ridiculous "magical registry" myth
it's like asking "is it possible to change the owner of a folder through a conf file in Linux?"
I really want to know how this myth started
 
I guess it is possible. You need a 'run at start' entry in the registry and a script. :)
 
@McDonald's @djsmiley2k Technically it is an answer. It is crap and doesn't answer the question but it is still an answer. Having said that moderators routinely delete such crap.
 
11:12 AM
And the next post will be ' I rebooted to change ownership of this folder, but .... '
 
It has been deleted.
 
Bob
@Hennes oh god.
 
> Do not use the not an answer flag for:
wrong answers. Downvote them and use comments to explain what is wrong. The NAA flag is for answers that are not even wrong, i.e., they do not even live on the right–wrong axis (for the respective question).
 
So much fun with a little bit of creativity.
 
@Bob lol
I wish there was a close reason "this is a stupid question" so we can get that crap out of HNQ.
 
11:18 AM
could close as unclear what you're asking...
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, that was I was just thinking reading it again.
 
@Bob nothing stopping you from sticking an SSD in it
 
Done.
 
@djsmiley2k I messed up and should have added a ESP to my linux install I think. On the other hand. THE VERY FACT THAT YOU CAN DO THIS....
 
11:45 AM
h, that didn't quite work
damn it linux, YOU SHOULD DO THIS WITHOUT BABYING.
 
@DavidPostill So... the number 42 is an answer
I could put that in any answer box on any site, and it'd be wrong to flag as 'NAA' ?
 
@djsmiley2k Yes :)
 
...
so why does the flag exist. Anything, is an answer...
I can write a question, for any answer you can write.
Surely NAA was meant to mean 'not an answer, to this question'
 
@djsmiley2k I've changed my mind. No :)
 
11:52 AM
> answers that attempt to answer another question or are just a general dump of unsolicited information, for example:

Question: What is the capital of Brazil?

Not an answer 1: The capital of Argentina is Buenos Aires.

Not an answer 2: Brazil is a state in South America.

Not an answer 3: We went to Brazil for our honeymoon.
 
Ok and now back to the original question
which is 'Where is this error coming from?'
And the answer given was 'Restart Excel'
See why it's NAA now?
'What causes this blue screen?'
'Restart Windows!'
Doesn't. Make. Sense.
'Why does my car only go upto 60mph'
'Restart your engine!'
 
Hmm. Stop complaining. I deleted the answer :)
 
'What causes depression?'
'Restart your heart!'
My point is, that even that 'What contitutes not a answer, answer....' is wrong xD
:P
 
@djsmiley2k Then you should add yet another answer to meta.stackexchange.com/questions/185073/… :)
 
It'd never get the views to be properly concidered :/
Hehe
Also, I'm not very good at explaining.
 
11:57 AM
@djsmiley2k Clearly, or we wouldn't be having this discussion :)
Just flag it anyway. If a mod agrees the answer will be nuked.
 
yeah I did
as did @McDonald's
And will continue to do so :D
mmmm
do I want to order some chicken
 
12:15 PM
@DavidPostill @djsmiley2k David - I guess I wasn't sure what the comment about my comment was about more than anything. After DJSmiley2K confirmed what I though, I went ahead and flagged as NAA as well since I was not the only one that thought that. Am I wrong to point out about what's needed to leave a comment though on such answers that are "crap" and likely to be removed by a mod anyway?
 
@McDonald's No. You did the right thing :)
 
Yes, I do want chicken! :O
 
This is why the chat feature is awesome!! Thanks all!! Save a chicken, and eat some turkey!! <;;::;;::[\\\\\}o
 
@djsmiley2k yuck. 1/4 pounder no cheese with large fries is much tastier :)
 
lol
 
12:26 PM
@DavidPostill :O PUT THE CHEESE BACK :P
Yes, I know you can't
but still:(
I agree tho on the burger, however this is a chicken place, their burgers aren't good.
 
12:38 PM
This competition is too tough
I'll try again next year...
 
@Rahul2001 What makes you think it will be easier next year? ...
 
@DavidPostill Nothing, I'll be better at programming :)
 
12:55 PM
more time to eliminate the competition?
 
i.e. git gud.
 
1:41 PM
@djsmiley2k I had McDonald's chicken yesterday
@Hennes I was about to say the same thing about a conf file
Hi @Bob not chatted for a few days, how's things?
 
Bob
@NotDog same old
found some suspiciously (and maybe legitimately?) mouldy cheese :D
anything happening over there?
 
furry cheese
 
Apparently OVH launching in London
That's about it
Isn't cheese just mouldy milk anyway?
 
Bob
@NotDog any good offers?
@NotDog uh. in theory? but most cheese doesn't grow fur a week after cutting
 
@Bob not actually checked. Been too broke lately.
Oh and I live in a shipping container now
 
Bob
1:52 PM
O_O
 
0_0
Not sure if hippie or hipster...
 
Bob
that sounds... not-fun
 
oh, it depends
 
2:50 PM
 
3:02 PM
@Bob omy only thought is 'damn the wifi must suck'
union jacks in scotland?
 
@NotDog those look military... or circus
did you become a circus cat?
 
Maybe? No!
 
3:19 PM
stumbled upon this thing XD
 
Hm, haven't seen @Psycogeek in a while
 
Bob
3:34 PM
@CircusCat a circus dog, then?
 
 
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5:37 PM
@Bob Theoretically, there's probably some Registry-reading component that expects a binary value to be a fixed size, so maybe you could make that structure longer, cause a buffer overrun, and inject code to change the owner of the folder
It would be hilariously impractical, but it might work :D
Unrelatedly, does anyone know of useful Windows API functions that are gnarly to P/Invoke? I'd like to make sure my tool supports them
 
6:06 PM
@Rahul2001 i did say a week or so ago
errr that sounds like i meant I said something, I mean, I saw them around a week ago
 
6:35 PM
@Bob I'm not. A dog
 
 
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9:35 PM
oi oi
 
@djsmiley2k Yuck. I just looked this up on the Urban Dictionary :/
 
Wasn't THAT bad
 
what?!
 
Relatedly:
> OiOi's Faux Buffalo Carry All Nappy Bag is the perfect mix of functionality and beautiful design.
 
9:59 PM
poO_IO
 

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