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12:47 AM
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Q: Dealing with fandom in relationships

apaul34208What are some methods for handling extreme fandom in relationships? The question arises with the new season of Game of Thrones, but I'd like to keep it a little more general. Fandom is a powerful thing, amongst geeks at least, and it seems that managing expectations can be a source of conflict...

 
1:07 AM
So... it might be good to start thinking about tag schemes.
 
Yep. We've seen isolated discussions about specific cases on meta, but not a general discussion on tagging.
We've had the countries discussion, and we seem to be fairly unified on that.
 
@HDE226868 You mean the answer I wrote or are there two questions?
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Q: Should we tag our questions by (cultural) region?

gerritSome interpersonal skills are universal, but others are very much cultural dependent. Therefore, there may be a case to tag questions by region. Where that is not enough, by anything else that forms a specific culture, such as by class or by subculture. I've tagged my question europe but that...

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Q: How much should we be enforcing specific and regional questions?

Crafter0800As per this meta post, we should really be giving regional examples of our questions, however I'm seeing a large increase in open ended questions, where not only is the situation not really defined to a region (like united-states or united-kingdom), but are also slightly more open. My concern is ...

 
@Catija Yeah, both of those.
 
1:22 AM
Also, because I love meta tagging questions... I think someone removed all of the "tagging" questions because they didn't see a difference between "tagging" and "tags"... which I think are pretty distinct?
 
Huh. That's interesting.
 
2:05 AM
@HDE226868 I just added my 2 cents on "yes yes use location tags":
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A: Should we tag our questions by (cultural) region?

Monica CellioAt the very least, we should push people asking questions to provide regional or cultural context in the body of the question. I don't see a problem with tagging it, too. If the community feels the answer doesn't actually depend on that, we still have the option to remove a tag if it was applie...

(Probably not necessary but eh, might help.)
And on the broader question, I sought input on Community Building:
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Q: When should a new site tackle its tag set?

Monica CellioI've participated in several new Stack Exchange (beta) sites, and they've all had this same problem (which is again current): developing the tag set. I'm talking here about tags that don't fit neatly into ontologies (like location tags). I'm talking about all the other ones, the tags that descr...

 
@MonicaCellio Nice job with
> Besides, aren't we all sick of the US-centrism on most of the Internet?
 
@HDE226868 thanks. I find that very frustrating all around; many of my fellow USians assume that their experience is universal, and I think it causes non-USians to just give up and not ask, creating a setting where most of the participants are US so that first group feels vindicated.
Bad feedback loop, in other words.
 
2:32 AM
Hey y'all
 
Looks like alot has happened while I've been gone...
 
How long have you been gone?
 
Not that long... A day?
 
Oh, has a lot happened? Maybe you meant in here -- haven't been to this room before tonight, so I wasn't paying attention to that. :-)
 
2:42 AM
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Q: Should we worry about being a dumping ground for other sites?

apaul34208We've been getting a fair few migrations lately. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I worry that we may end up being a catch all for questions that are vaguely related to interpersonal skills. In my opinion some of these have been... Well... Not great questions. Some editing and adjustment...

 
@MonicaCellio Nah, it just feels like meta has exploded since yesterday
 
@MonicaCellio Ugh. I think it's even worse when non US-ians are the ones saying the site is US-centric.
 
Because it is?
 
@Zizouz212 yeah you're right -- lots of recent meta activity. Hey, cool -- people are paying attention to meta!
 
3:11 AM
'USians'. Nice word
 
Yeah... "Americans" is a bit loaded...
 
@Catija I was trying to distinguish US from all the other countries in the Americas. Too many of my fellow USians don't...
I kind of like Weans, but it's not as obvious. :-)
 
@MonicaCellio Exactly. Everyone in North, Central, and South America are "American".
@MonicaCellio Hmmm. I don't get that one.
 
@Catija Digging the Weans. We read this story in a high-school history class, as a lesson in archaeology and inference.
 
@MonicaCellio Huh... that reminds me of the Nacirema.
 
3:22 AM
@MonicaCellio The pictures there are... interesting to say the least
 
(That copy looks shorter than what I remember reading in a paperback collection, but I don't have time right now to reread. Looks right; might be abridged. Or not.)
@Catija I don't know that one.
 
THere's also "Hotel of the Mysteries", which I've seen but don't remember well.
@Catija looks like fun stuff. :-)
(Got to go now -- latter, y'all.)
 
@MonicaCellio Toodles!
 
4:12 AM
@Catija They are? I use American for people from the US. If it's Central or North, I'd use North American (for both, or maybe Central for Central Americans too), and South Americans for people from S. America
 
@Avantgarde That doesn't make them not "American"...
Though, the amusing thing to me is that "United States" is just as generic as "American"... The country we refer to as "Mexico" is officially "Estados Unidos Mexicanos"... though they translate it as "United Mexican States"... they refer to the USA as "Estados Unidos de América"... which is very similar.
 
United States of Mexico, United States of America, Canada (stemming from "kanata", which is an iroquois word for village)
 
4:45 AM
@Catija Well yes, if by 'American' you mean the collective term for both N and S America
What demonym would one use for someone from the US, then, if not American? Surely there must be a term exclusively for people from the country of US, and not the continent(s)
 
'murican? :P
 
:P
The demonym here is American
The United States of America (; USA), commonly known as the United States (U.S.) or America, is a federal republic composed of 50 states, a federal district, five major self-governing territories, and various possessions. Forty-eight of the fifty states and the federal district are contiguous and located in North America between Canada and Mexico. The state of Alaska is in the northwest corner of North America, bordered by Canada to the east and across the Bering Strait from Russia to the west. The state of Hawaii is an archipelago in the mid-Pacific Ocean. The U.S. territories are scattered about...
A demonym (; δῆμος dẽmos "people, tribe", ὄνομα ónoma "name") is a word that identifies residents or natives of a particular place, which is derived from the name of that particular place. It is a neologism (i.e., a recently minted term); previously gentilic was recorded in English dictionaries, e.g., the Oxford English Dictionary and Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary. Examples of demonyms include a Pakistani for a person from Pakistan, Swahili for a person of the Swahili coast, the colloquial Kiwi for a person from New Zealand, and a Cochabambino for a person from the city of Cochabamb...
 
We should be calling Canadians "villagers"
 
5:09 AM
why is that
 
Canada is a word that comes from the word "kanata"
Which is an iroquois word for "village"
So Canada means "village"
So Canadians must mean "villagers"
 
haha
fair enough
 
5:30 AM
Is your avatar a pokemon? @Zizouz212
 
5:55 AM
Oh finally. Working again
@Avantgarde Oui oui! Wynaut is the name :)
 
@Zizouz212 I used to be so into Pokemon. I've lost track for long now
they probably have like 232445 pokemons by now
 
Same!
But all the pokemon I know are from the "old" games
No clue what's going on with it now :P
 
Same. I have no idea. I only watched the cartoon
 
I didn't :(
I remember when the cards were cool though
 
Oh yes, definitely. We were all crazy about it, I remember that
 
5:59 AM
Never really knew how to use them though. I think it was more about keeping a collection (that I always somehow lost everywhere :P)
 
haha same
The better and larger the collection you had, the more popular you were
 
My collection was mostly made of whatever cards I found on the ground near school :P
 
haha
I had hardly anything that could be called a 'collection'
 
lol
My cards were always the "weak" ones - still remember everyone questioning why I had such bad luck in my cards. Not buying them was a secret
 
Hopefully everyone still doesn't know the secret
The legend must stay alive
 
6:08 AM
That was when I lived in Waterloo (one of the small-ish towns in Ontario)
I live in Toronto now, no pokemon cards in hand ;)
 
Oh, it is small?
 
Okay not that small. I think around 300 thousand?
 
That's decent
 
Still remember the first time I ever came to Toronto. Amazed at how wide the roads could be (I was actually born out in central Canada)
 
Wide roads look good
 
6:13 AM
shrugs
 
not fun lol
Idk why I used that
grand. Yes that's the word
 
At least I'm moving to Ottawa in a month :D
 
That'd be better?
 
But I hate roads. I'm a total transit person
What are you trying to say?
 
I mean, being the capital, they'd have wider roads? or no?
 
6:16 AM
Ottawa is actually very small - Around 600 thousand
 
Lol at least bigger than Waterloo
 
Toronto, and the entire area surrounding it is around 9.3 million
 
I suppose Toronto is the biggest in Canada?
 
Yep
Canada is around 36ish million
Yeah, Toronto and it's surrounding areas makes for a quarter of Canada
 
1/4th!
That's a lot
 
6:18 AM
Canada isn't very big :P
(Which is a nice thing)
 
So cold
 
-30 celsius isn't that bad
 
It is, when 15 makes me you feel cold
 
That's shorts and t-shirt weather
 
hahaha nooo
I have low threshold for cold. Probably many people here do
 
6:31 AM
Where are you? (if you don't mind me asking)
 
India
 
Ooh. That's hot
What part?
 
I can't tell that, but yeah, this time of the year is hot for I think every place
 
Aah
 
June-July are the hottest here
May too
 
6:34 AM
Same here. Same months, we get around 25-27
 
That's the temp I like.
Is 25 hot for you?
 
I like it
If it's too humid though... maybe not
 
Right. I dislike humidity as well.
I could live a life free from rain if I had to
 
I can't. I absolutely love the rain
 
Isn't it kinda late there?
 
6:43 AM
@Avantgarde Yes..... This is my only time to get work done though
 
I get it
 
But I should get to sleep soon. It's a little bit later than usual
 
yep
 
NVZ
Dubai, now, hotter than hell.
 
Water doesn't cool it down?
 
NVZ
6:48 AM
Water, as in, humidity?
No, not really.
 
Being by the sea
 
NVZ
Staying indoors is the only option in the morning.
Not at all.
It's 110 F here. Or 44 Celcius
 
Dubai will never be on my list of places to visit now...
 
NVZ
Don't say that.
 
haha
 
NVZ
6:51 AM
Come here in December to February time
It's 10 to 15 Celcius then, I think.
 
Will it be bad if I come in shorts and a t-shirt during that time?
 
NVZ
Nope.
Everything goes.
 
Good :)
 
Oh I didn't know he was in it
 
NVZ
6:54 AM
The King of Indian cinema, he's inviting you.
 
I wish we had something for Toronto now... :(
Well... Dubai is actually a place I might want to come to
 
@NVZ Can you tell me the name of a good modern Arabic singer?
 
NVZ
I don't know much
I know Nancy Ajram. None other.
I'm an Indian.
 
Me too. I know Nancy already.
Thanks anyway
 
I don't know anyone :P
 
 
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10:01 AM
hi all
 
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11:18 AM
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Q: How to ask my father in law to stop entering our house unannounced?

JaneDoe1337My father in law refuses to listen to our requests not to work in/on our house during weekdays. So, there's a bit of a backstory here. We bought a house 8 months ago, started renovating and during that period we were invited to live at my in-laws. My father in law is already retired and i...

 
11:51 AM
@ExtrovertedMainMan Only one question since I went to bed?
 
 
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2:06 PM
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Q: Discussing [tag:memory]

VylixIt seems that memory is always about forgetting something. Currently there are only 2 questions about this, but I don't sense there will be any other question worthy of memory other than forgetfulness. How should we use this tag? Or should we change it to forget or forgetfulness ?

 
@MonicaCellio Huh, that's pretty interesting.
 
2:22 PM
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Q: Is asking for a definition or a general perception in matters of interpersonal relationships on topic?

rraallvvSome examples: What are core values? Why don't just call them values instead of core values? What are opposite values? Are honesty and friendship/family opposite values? Why they say opposite values are complementary? ...and I can go on and on.

 
@IntrovertedMetaMan. ?
 
NVZ
2:39 PM
@rraallvv
Ah. Can't ping the OP.
Never been to chat, he has.
 
@NVZ just add a link to chat in the comments.
 
NVZ
Yeah. I just did.
Since you're here. What's your take?
 
I still don't quite understand the examples they've given.
 
NVZ
I don't think we need to define things like "core values".
It's either googleable, or better suited to other sites.
Maybe a language site? Maybe a philosophy site.
 
 
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3:44 PM
Only now did I get to see the vote breakdown on posts. I went over to the nomination page. It's strange how many downvotes there are. I'm not sure why certain users are downvoted so much. Kinda feels like "baggage" carried over from other sites. Ah, well..
@IntrovertedMetaMan. Meta Man, how you doin? I know you work so hard to bring us these posts and nobody appreciates your services. :P
 
4:20 PM
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Q: How to politely ask people to pick up the litter they threw, especially if they don't own up

Abhigyan ChattopadhyayI live in India. As far as I know, littering is not much of a problem in other countries, but India has always been a place where even the adults teach their children: "Beta, yahin pe phek do, sabhi karte hain". (Go ahead and throw it here, as everyone else does it too.) It has often been the ca...

 
 
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6:08 PM
If anyone is interested please donate some of your votes on my Weapons Area51.SE proposal.
in Urdu Language Discussions, 3 mins ago, by Zizouz212
Why would that be a bad idea? You can ask people to follow/vote for your proposal
If Zizouz212 ♦ said it was ok I won't blame him.
In Zizouz212 I trust.
Ok time to slip out.
 
@HenryWHHackv2.0 Yes, but unsolicited asking is inappropriate
 
Yeah
 
What's unsolicited?
 
Out of nowhere, irrelevant to the topic at hand, nobody asked for it...
There's nice people here, but other places, not so much
 
6:15 PM
I will contact my lawyer about this. (Mithrandir)
 
o_O
 
Ok this was just a social experiment.
 
Mhmm....
 
NVZ
7:17 PM
Okay. I think this is a record. Longest ever I've seen on IPS.
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A: How to temper conflict in close relationships

threetimesWell firstly, we will react stronger to things presented as conflict or problems with people closest to us merely because we are more emotionally invested with that person. It doesn't matter how minor or serious the topic, we invest more. Secondly, it is common that those closest too us have gr...

Can anybody tell me a brief summary?
Maybe it's a great answer. But I can't read.
 
7:42 PM
@NVZ The closet someone is to you, the the more freely they will make hurtful comments. The more a comment "hurts" the more likely one is to react negatively. You can choose how to react, and choosing mild, or positive m reaction makes the conflict less. Look for the good in people and their actions.
 
NVZ
7:58 PM
@GypsySpellweaver thanks a lot. :)
 
8:46 PM
so, I just tried answering a question, and I came to wonder, when is "don't worry about what other people think" a valid answer?
it's come up on both my answers, and I feel like it's something that I'd say in any answer I wrote. To a certain extent, everything is rude/inappropriate, and life is just about trying not to be rude/inappropriate to people whose opinions of you are valued
 
9:06 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh Sounds like a good question to ask on the main site... :D
 
lol yeah maybe
might be too opinion based though... but it could be worth it just to see an answer that says "don't worry about other people's opinions"
 

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