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12:00 AM
and also, what's with the "hey-mate-there's-an-extra-cross-bar-on-your-$X$s" on top
 
That's a good question for the History of Math and Science.SE @DanielSank
 
$\mathscr{X}\mathcal{X}$
Hm, I've seen that X before though
It's not one of the usual culprits cal or scr :P
 
@ACuriousMind yes, I agree, I blame Germany for this
$\mathfrak X$, maybe?
ah, there we go
see? it's the Germans' fault
so, maybe $\mathfrak r$ is what that thing is?
nope
$\mathcal r$ $\mathscr r$
nope
 
@EmilioPisanty That's a Greek ξ and it's pronounced "ksee".
 
That doesn't look like a $\xi$
 
12:04 AM
@DanielSank what? that doesn't make any sense (in that context)
also it doesn't look like a $\xi$
 
@EmilioPisanty Since when do variables "make sense" in a context?
 
also, why'd you pronounce $\xi$ as "ksee" instead of "ksi"?
 
@EmilioPisanty It looks like a version hand-drawn by a left-handed person ;-)
@EmilioPisanty :-|
 
do you pronounce $\pi$ as "pee"? =P
 
yes
 
12:05 AM
well, fair enough, then
 
@DanielSank As a leftie, I take offense to that ;P
Ahhhh
it's Fraktur
$\mathfrak{X}\mathfrak{x}$
Germans are to blame indeed
 
@ACuriousMind wait, seriously?
that's meant to be an x?
that's completely ridiculous
 
Have you seen Fraktur?
 
yes
but
this goes way past anything else I've seen before
I mean
there's plenty of books that will happily use $\mathfrak A$ and pretend that it's not a U
but how the hell is $$\LARGE \mathfrak{x}$$ an $x$ in any way?
 
@EmilioPisanty It's not quite as ridiculous as the Kurrent variant, which is what you are supposed to use in place of Fraktur when writing by hand.
 
12:11 AM
@ACuriousMind yeah, those are pretty bad
 
come on guys, more outdated terms!
 
@DanielSank you want references to books that use $\mathfrak S$ and pretend that it's not a G?
 
Yosida Functional Analysis ^
 
12:31 AM
@DanielSank plum pudding model
the 5 elements - earth, air, fire, water, and the heavenly firmament
geocentric model of the solar system
epicycles
(Ptolemic model of the solar system)
 
@EmilioPisanty it's a c + s
x is c + s
 
okay, so I have a question @EmilioPisanty about that experiment i'm working on.
i was looking around and I see from this indicates there is some sort of connection between phase and polarization (I was going to ask a question on the main site to clarify) but generally, is it easier to detect polarization than phase?
I.e., if phase and polarization are connected, if I change the phase, can I look at the polarization of each photon and see if it has changed due to the change in phase?
 
 
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1:50 AM
@DanielSank Raiders is right. You have an excellent question. Need a list of all such terms and notations
 
 
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3:04 AM
A few suggestions:
SI (system of units), formerly called MKS
Celsius scale, formerly called the centigrade scale
MRI, formerly called NMR
 
 
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5:10 AM
@TheRaidersofLasVegas I don't think you should pay too much attention to the finer details of British grammar. A lot of the rules are pretty arbitrary and in any case the language changes continually. It's just that I wouldn't start making statements about physics if I wasn't pretty sure I understood the physics involved.
 
5:28 AM
@TheRaidersofLasVegas My mother had the habit of castigating supermarket cashiers serving at the "12 items or less" lane for the alleged poor grammar of the sign.
 
Criticising people's grammar can be great fun though it doesn't make you many friends :-)
 
Yeah, and it makes their grampars angry.
 
5:47 AM
@Mostafa Really? I remember some experiment we did in college, where 'NMR' was used.
@DawoodibnKareem Should be 'fewer' instead of 'less'?
 
@Avantgarde Yes
 
6:02 AM
@Avantgarde Arguably, yes. It depends on whether you regard grammar as a set of rules that must be obeyed, or as a description of how people actually speak and write. I believe that most native English speakers would indeed say "less" in that context - and in my opinion, that makes "less" correct by definition. However, people who are sticklers for the rules of grammar, such as my mother, would insist that "fewer" is correct and "less" is wrong.
 
Sid
Eh, if it is understood by the people, that means it is "correct".
 
@Avantgarde eh, how old are you? ;)
 
@Sid The style in which you speak or write can be used to subtly affect the impact of what you are saying. If you communicate in a way that is ostentatiously grammatically correct it tends to make your statements sound more precise and therefore more plausible.
While I agree with you that we shouldn't worry too much about grammatical precision you shouldn't underestimate its importance in some circumstances.
 
6:25 AM
@Sid A large number of people define "correct" differently from you. There are plenty of contexts where pandering to those people matters. For example, if you are publishing a brochure advertising the services of an educational institution, it would be wise to ensure that the spelling and grammar contained therein conform to certain common norms. Because there are many such contexts, it is advisable to learn the rules of spelling and grammar, whether you intend to follow them or not.
 
Sid
it seems my comment above has been misunderstood. I agree that grammar and spelling are important in official documents, (say) a presentation in a meeting or formal talks. I mean that in informal stuff like when you are among friends or buying groceries, etc. grammar shouldn't really matter much as long as it is understood by people.
 
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Q: If I spun a ring singularity fast enough would it become a sphere? If so, then how fast?

MaxI know that a spinning a black hole creates a ring, so does spinning a ring singularity in a additional axis at a sufficieny speed create a hollow sphere if so at what speed?

Presumably since we cannot have hollow sphere structure of infinite density matter in 3D+1T spacetime, doing so is likely to collapse the singularity into a point
But (not awaring that it might actually violate GR in some unexpected way) this question is quite interesting. I wonder if rotating black holes can really have such gimbal lock like motions
 
What is known however is that we probably cannot apply the hollow sphere event horizon argument to this question as the singularity, whether ring shaped or point like, is already supposed to be the end state of a gravitational collapse and thus have no room to collapse further
 
@Secret: since angular momentum is conserved it must be constant i.e. have a constant magnitude and a constant direction.
 
ah right, and that gimbal lock motion suggest by OP will have the direction of the angular momentum constantly changing thus it will violate conservation of momentum
 
Yes
 
The Lion-Eating Poet in the Stone Den (simplified Chinese: 施氏食狮史; traditional Chinese: 施氏食獅史; pinyin: Shī Shì shí shī shǐ; literally: "The Story of Mr. Shi Eating Lions") is a passage composed of 92 characters written in Classical Chinese by Yuen Ren Chao (1892–1982), in which every syllable has the sound shi when read in modern Mandarin Chinese, with only the tones differing. It is an example of a one-syllable article, a form of constrained writing possible in tonal languages such as Mandarin Chinese. == Explanation == Classical Chinese is a written language and is very different from sp...
 
6:50 AM
There is a Thai tongue twister that some friends tried to teach me when I was in Thailand. From memory (not necessarily reliable) it's kai kai kai kai but because Thai is a tonal language all four words mean something different. I think two of the meanings are rice and white, but my memory fails me for the other two.
 
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Hi, everyone :-)
 
Morning :-)
 
user228700
I'm going to watch a movie early in the morning tomorrow!
 
Which film?
And why early in the morning?
 
user228700
@JohnRennie Dunkirk.
 
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7:01 AM
Oh, it's not too early; it's at 9:20 AM.
 
At the cinema?
 
user228700
Yep. On my own, as always.
 
Sid
@Kaumudi.H According to my friends, Dunkirk is exceptional
 
user228700
Right. The reviews really are great.
 
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7:04 AM
HANS ZIMMER! Whoa!
 
user228700
 
That's odd, it works here. Maybe it only allows UK IP addresses.
 
user228700
Ohh, cool :-) Are u a fan of the band?
 
I've been a fan of Black Sabbath since I was about 11 years old :-)
 
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7:15 AM
Ah, wow, nice :-)
 
This is their first album - one of the all time classics
The chat goes quiet - stunned by the awesome music of Black Sabbath
 
user228700
Haha :-) I was busy booking movie tickets for my family. And now I have a crisis at hand because I've absentmindedly booked 5 tickets instead of 4.
 
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> Once tickets have been bought online, they are considered sold and cannot be cancelled, refunded or exchanged.
 
user228700
Sigh. Now I too will need to watch the movie with them; two movies in one day!
 
You're going on your own to the early screening, then with the family to a later screening?
 
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7:26 AM
No, no, the one with my family is a different movie. It's a Malayalam movie.
 
I did wonder if the twins weren't a bit young for a war film :-)
 
user228700
:-) Not only that; they'd also struggle to understand. They're not exceptionally fluent in English.
 
Oh well, two films in one day. It's a hard life but sometimes you just have to step up to the plate :-)
 
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Haha :-)
 
user228700
When's the screening of the movie on Black Sabbath?
 
7:29 AM
Will Dunkirk have subtitles?
On that subject, did you get the headphone adaptor? Does it work OK?
 
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@JohnRennie I dunno. I do hope so; it might be difficult to understand what with all the bombing noises in the background.
 
user228700
Sometimes, cinemas here do display subtitles for English movies; that was the case when I watched TFiOS and Gravity but I can't be sure of this one.
 
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AHA, my family's inviting a friend to occupy the 5th seat. I don't have to go! :-)
 
Saved from a fate worse than death!
You get to stay at home and surf NetFlix?
 
user228700
:-P #FirstWorldProblems amirite?
 
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7:33 AM
@JohnRennie No, my subscription to Netflix ended. I get to stay at home and...do whatever, really. Read, perhaps.
 
I'm currently reading a book about teeth ...
 
user228700
Fascinating! :-P Which book is it?
 
This one‌​. It's turning out to be very interesting.
I read New Scientist magazine every week and it has a book review section. Not all the books they recommend are great, but I've read some very good books as a result of their suggestions.
 
Did you get a chance to watch the Hawking clip I linked? @JohnRennie
 
Just as well because the last two books I've read have been very disappointing and I needed a good book to break my losing streak.
@TheRaidersofLasVegas yes.
I'm not sure how much trust we should put in Hawking's memories of why he chose Cambridge
Memory tends to be selective on these issues.
 
7:39 AM
Absolutely :-)
 
At PhD level it's as important to choose the person you want to work with as it is to choose the university. It may well be that Hawking particularly wanted to work with Denis Sciama, though rumour suggests he really wanted Fred Hoyle.
So he may have chosen Cambridge specifically to work with those people.
 
Penrose has an interesting biography also.
 
@JohnRennie oh man
It would have been really awkward if he chose Hoyle
people only remember Hoyle for being a kook now
 
@Slereah Yes :-)
 
I'm trying to reformulate Hoyle's theory rigorously for the book
i'm not 100% sure how
It was fairly ad-hoc in Hoyle's original paper
 
7:53 AM
The steady state theory?
 
Though maybe I should look into his quasisteady theory
yeah
Basically you have a vector field $C^\mu = \alpha (1,0,0,0)$, and this gives rise to the creation field $C_{\mu\nu} = \nabla_\nu C_\mu$
 
He had a point about the Big Bang. I guess we all just learned to live with singularities.
 
Well his theory wasn't bad, it just turned out to be incorrect
But I think he burned a lot of bridges by being a huge dick about it
 
I think he lost his marbles a bit in his later years. It happens I guess.
 
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@JohnRennie Ooh, interesting!
 
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7:56 AM
(Sorry about that; needed to go out to buy some banana chips)
 
@Kaumudi.H At the moment there seem to be lots of good popular science books pitched at the informed amateur.
i.e. they are for the general public but expect you to be reasonably well informed and willing to put some effort into reading the book.
 
user228700
Ah, right, right. I'm certain that it won't reach the general public, then.
 
But I think when I was a student I was so focused on my work that I wouldn't have been interested in books like that.
It's only now I have the time to explore other areas like palaeontology, archeology, etc
 
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Ah, right, of course.
 
Got to work for half an hour or so. Back in a bit ...
 
8:07 AM
@JohnRennie There's something very similar in Serbian/Croatian, which is partially tonal. Gore gore gore gore means something along the lines of forests burn worse upwards (actually I don't remember exactly what it means). The four words are distinguished partially by vowel length and partially by tone.
 
 
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9:22 AM
@DawoodibnKareem nice :)
There are some similar funny combinations in the local accent of my hometown (some accent of Persian). For example, "Ne ne na ne na" means "hey, they're our mothers" :)
 
10:09 AM
Are the "ne"s all the same?
 
No, totally different (only sound the same)
It's actually "nene(mother) + nane(makes "mother" plural + are) na(=something like *hey*)" :D
 
10:44 AM
Quantum contextuality is a foundational concept in quantum theory. Quantum Contextuality means that in any theory that attempts to explain quantum mechanics deterministically, the measurement result of a quantum observable depends on the specific experimental setup being used to measure that observable, in particular the commuting observables being measured with it. == Gleason's theorem == Andrew Gleason proposed a theorem demonstrating that quantum contextuality exists only in dimensions greater than two. This was pointed out already by Niels Bohr in his paper which says that EPR-like paradoxes...
This feels like superdeterminism
 
11:17 AM
@Secret That's probably because superdeterminism is a theory (or set of theories?) that 'attempts to explain quantum mechanics deterministically'...
[note: I don't actually know what superdeterminism or quantum contextuality are (or at least, I've never explicitly heard the terms used before, although they sound vaguely related to a couple of other things)]
 
hi
what branch of math do equations and factorization belong to?
 
@parvin what do you mean by factorization?
as in, $15=3\times5$?
or factorisation of polynomials?
anyway, you have equations and factorisation in every branch of mathematics
 
Yup, but different sorts of equations. Your question is a bit like asking what type of architecture buildings belong to.
 
11:55 AM
@AccidentalFourierTransform I don't know the name so I searched it on google and what I found was names "factorization" which is in : (a-b)^2 = (a)^2 + (b)^2 + (2ab)
 
@parvin that branch of mathematics is called Elementary algebra
 
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Q: Definition of naked singularities

SlereahA spacetime is generally called nakedly singular if for some point $p \in \mathcal M$, there exists a future-incomplete future-directed causal curve $\gamma \subset I^-(p)$. But consider the following spacetime : $2$-dimensional Minkowski space $\mathbb L^2$ with a triangular set removed, of the ...

Warning contains nakedness
 
thank you @AccidentalFourierTransform
 
Illuminati
@parvin np :-)
silly question: if $U(f_1(x)+f_2(x))=U(f_1(x))+U(f_2(x))$ is linear, then $\frac{\partial}{\partial x}U(f(x))=U(f'(x))$. Is the converse true, i.e., does $\frac{\partial}{\partial x}U(f(x))=U(f'(x))$ imply that $U$ is linear?
assuming continuity, etc.
 
12:13 PM
o/
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Well, if you use the chain rule, you have that $U'(x) = 1$. Whether that implies $U$ is linear or not you should know :P
 
If I have a closed ball $B$ of radius $1$ centered around $0$ in Euclidian space
and then I remove the point $(1,0,...)$ from the manifold
What's the closure of $B$?
$B$ isn't a closed set anymore
But since that limit point doesn't exist anymore, it can't be in the closure
Or is it closed?
I'm not sure anymore
Ah wait, I think I've been going at this all wrong
 
12:32 PM
in English Language & Usage, 1 hour ago, by Ghalib
I think avatars are sticking in chat today. There aren't as many people as we see here.
Our avatars are trapped in a blackhole.
 
@Slereah If the set with the point removed has the subspace topology inherited from the original manifold, then $B$ is still closed.
 
Yeah I think I've been dumb for a bit with this whole naked singularity business
Misunderstood the issue of the failure of $J^+$ to be not closed
 
Strange glitch.
Your naked singularity has disrupted the Ethernet.
 
@ACuriousMind oh boy
In the acknowledgements section of my thesis: "To ACM, and my parents"
 
12:47 PM
wait
I applied the chain rule wrongly :D
 
no its fine, just take $f(x)=x$
 
How many pages is your thesis?
 
$U'(x)=U(1)$
so its linear
 
Yeah, the statement is still true, but my reasoning was...a bit off :P
 
@TheRaidersofLasVegas mine? I defended it a month ago, it was around 70 pages long
the committee wasnt happy about the length, it was supposed to have < 30 pages
but I got a good grade, so its fine :D
 
12:50 PM
Congrats
 
thx :-)
btw, it was a Master's thesis
in case it wasnt clear
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform I just wanted to ask. :-)
Since my Dr. rer. nat. thesis had 372 pages.
 
Anonymous
What's the shortest thesis ever?
 
Anonymous
12:56 PM
@TheRaidersofLasVegas Cool :D
 
They say Einstein had his thesis rejected because it was too short.
 
Anonymous
@TheRaidersofLasVegas Which one?
 
How come famous scientists always have famous thesis advisors
 
egg or chicken, right
 
1:07 PM
You never hear like "Feynman's thesis advisor was the physicist who measured the radiation of argon to 13 decimals instead of 12"
it's always another famous guy
What scam are famous scientists running
 
@TheRaidersofLasVegas Who are "they"? You couldn't find a less authoritative source than a document written in Word without any sources whatsoever that doesn't even mention who wrote it?
According to Ohanian, Einstein's adivsor indeed complained about the short length, but it was accepted after he added a single additional sentence.
 
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Q: What is the shortest Ph.D. thesis?

Timothy ChowThe question is self-explanatory, but I want to make some remarks in order to prevent the responses from going off into undesirable directions. It seems that every few years I hear someone ask this question; it seems to hold a perennial fascination for research mathematicians, just as quests for...

 
chat is so quiet, but I have nothing much to say as I am stuck in the limbo of "if not reading the literature I will be dead by August"
 
@Slereah Founded by Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle.
 
famous people attract famous people^
 
1:20 PM
My phone has decided to stop making sound for alarms
 
Mine did that also for notifications.
 
@ACuriousMind I tried...
Morrowind died
@ACuriousMind Complete reinstall?
 
1:42 PM
hello
 
hi
L'Hospital, Schroedinger,...
why people, why
 
wot
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform I get what you mean by the s (it's silent), but not by the e.
@0celoñe7 I sadly don't have the power to magically know what has gone wrong on your computer :P
 
Schroedinger, Schroeder, Stueckelberg,...
 
Bjoern
 
You know these are renderings of umlauts, right?
 
Jueliger
 
how do you like it
 
@ACuriousMind your parents memed you hard
 
the French "^" is typically replaced by an "s"
and the German "¨" by an "e"
why cant people use the correct symbol?
typewriters, I guess
 
1:55 PM
@AccidentalFourierTransform Ah, I didn't know the 's' was a substitute for the ^
 
my computer has a standard, no-umlauts/carrots keyboard.
 
i have not yet needed to figure out how to produce them.
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform In earlier times, limited typefaces, in slightly more modern times, ASCII.
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform ^
 
1:56 PM
thats a caret :-P
 
Anonymous
Carrot :P
 
ah, whatever, same difference =P
carrot sounds better anyway.
 
saving that one for later
 
get your vitamin a and proper grammar here.
 
Anonymous
proper grammer
 
Anonymous
1:57 PM
XD
 
Anonymous
I used to make that mistake^
 
no, i'm pretty sure it's spelled 'ar'
 
Anonymous
Obviously
 
Anonymous
I'm talking about myself :P
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Actually, caret refers to the symbol used alone, while the thing you use as a diacritic is a circumflex
 
1:58 PM
Jesus christ
 
Feb 2 at 20:54, by heather
@ACuriousMind "banged" his cousin...i thought i read somewhere he hit his younger cousin or something when she was born. am i misunderstanding something?
@ACuriousMind no, the symbol used alone is a pretentious little hat
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform oh gosh not that again
 
@ACuriousMind hmmmmm
I found the source of the error
the distant land generated incorrectly
"unhandled exception"
what does that mean?
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform i seem to have a gift for this sort of error =P
oh gosh, why did someone star that?
 
2:01 PM
a mod will un-star it soon
 
Anonymous
@0celoñe7 You need to catch the exception I guess. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_handling> Don't know what code you are dealing with though...
 
@Blue Sounds to me like a complete reinstall is needed...
 
Anonymous
Yeah, you could try that....or ask someone at Stack Overflow
 
or buy a new PC
 
@Blue it's a game mod package
SO would not know/care
 
Anonymous
2:08 PM
 
Again, much easier to reinstall.
 
Anonymous
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Q: Why my minecraft always crashed when i play?

James DeragonIt's like this: ---- Minecraft Crash Report ---- // My bad. Time: 7/22/17 1:49 PM Description: Initializing game org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.choosePixelF...

 
Anonymous
They do seem to answer these sort of questions
 
@Blue ???
@Blue I was doing something completely different.
Sometimes mods just break games.
 
Anonymous
@0celoñe7 I don't know your exact situation. Do you mean your game crashed due to some error? Or are you writing a program and the code is showing unhandled exception error (during execution)? For the former you can ask for help in the Arqade site. For the latter ask in the SO site.
 
2:13 PM
If you tell me to do that one more time, it will end badly...
I already said I'm going to reinstall...
I am installing 100 or so mods...it just broke.
 
Anonymous
@0celoñe7 You are a difficult person. I was just trying to help. Anyhow, good luck.
 
2:49 PM
@heather Producing accents from a keyboard without them is typically handled by the GUI layer in use (on Windows and Mac that's integrated with the OS, so one might say OD dependent, but last time I looked *nix system left that up to X).
I could give you many of the sequences for a mac off the top of my head.
 
Am I the only one who sees this?
 
Anonymous
@Mostafa Nope
 
Anonymous
Why?
 
Sid
@Mostafa What's wrong there?
 
Yeah this is my question too. What's wrong?
 
2:56 PM
2 hours ago, by The Raiders of Las Vegas
in English Language & Usage, 1 hour ago, by Ghalib
I think avatars are sticking in chat today. There aren't as many people as we see here.
 
Sid
Hmm, actually that makes sense. Is it a bug?
 
@Sid Well, I think they have always lingers a while, because connections are not heartbeated.
But you'd like the number of avatars to represent the number of possibly live connections in some approximation.
 

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