The Nineteenth Byte

Magic Octopus Urn

14:01

Oh sweet christ...

Yeah, I'll separate that in a bit.

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Q: Some Code Golf links marked as "not secure"

I was looking at this question from almost 2 years ago, and wanted to click the first link, which is to this url: https://meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/2073/25180. That took me to a site that Chrome (59.0.3071.115) flagged as "not secure" on the grounds of NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INV...

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Step Hen

@NewMetaPosts 54 minutes?!?!

Erik the Outgolfer

@NewMetaPosts that's QUICK dude!

AdmBorkBork

NewMetaPosts is le tired

totallyhuman

butter

Erik the Outgolfer

14:09

@totallyhuman I don't think that deserved to be buttered

Step Hen

OK, so I have a challenge idea. It's like this one, but the rules are changed a bit: your output is all capitalized letters at the beginning of a word, period. It doesn't have skipped words or anything like that, and it would have looser output, and probably allow builtins. Would that be a dupe?

Wheat Wizard

I'd vote to close the old one as a dupe.

Step Hen

@WheatWizard Thanks, I'll probably Sandbox the new one later today then.

Wheat Wizard

Flexible output and allowed builtins are better in my book

If you wait until I make another 50 code-golf answers I could hammer it for you ;)

Step Hen

@WheatWizard It's nice that there's no tag score cap like there is a rep cap :P

Wheat Wizard

14:24

It probably doesn't matter on PPCG where everyone hits the vote count before the answer count.

Step Hen

@WheatWizard Well, almost everyone - if you never get a good answer on a HNQ you might not

Wheat Wizard

You need to average under 5 rep, per answer, its not unheard of, but thats pretty low.

Step Hen

@WheatWizard I had less than that before I hit the jackpot with my Taxi answer (I think)

Wheat Wizard

I think I have about 7 answers that have hit the HNQ significantly. with about 350 votes total, so it looks like if I subtracted the votes I would be lower than average.

Business Cat

I have 601 score and 186 answers so I'm pretty far below 5 per answer

AdmBorkBork

14:33

Any final thoughts before I post TryItOnquine in a few hours?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

TryItOnquine optimized-output code-challenge quine (based on this post and the ensuing discussion on chat) The Challenge Choose a language that's currently available on the TryItOnline site, for example PowerShell. Write code in that language on that page, that doesn't take any input, such th...

Step Hen

@AdmBorkBork I think it'll be difficult, but it'll be cool to see if someone can do it.

By the way, is no one going to crack this?

Jim

14:49

I just discovered that Pyth supports packed strings. How does that work?

(If there are Pyth users around)

Step Hen

@Jim This helpful? github.com/isaacg1/pyth/blob/master/rev-doc.txt#L268

Jim

@StepHen Well this is for decoding a packed string. How to encode it?

Oh, that is in the description

To think that I have been using Pyth for more than a month without knowing that…

However most of the packed strings seem to be longer than the original strings (counting in bytes)

Mr. Xcoder

Hi there

Erik the Outgolfer

@Jim yeah me too

Jim

@Mr.Xcoder Hi

Mr. Xcoder

14:57

@Jim Wanna join me?

Jim

@Mr.Xcoder I cannot this evening

Mr. Xcoder

@Jim Alright

I want to post a challenge anyway

Jim

@Mr.Xcoder Feel free to do it

Mr. Xcoder

@Jim No, on Main

Okx

what is this answer? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/133279/26600

Mr. Xcoder

15:02

Posted

Poke

@StepHen the interpreter on tio seems to infinite loop pretty easily and cancelling doesn't seem to work

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx Did you prepare to answer when it was still in the sandbox?

AdmBorkBork

@Okx I think the Class Console is the key component, but I don't know enough C# to know for certain.

Mayube

Is it just me or is TIO having some issues?

Mr. Xcoder

@Mayube It works perfectly for me

totallyhuman

15:07

It keeps saying unable to reach the server

Mayube

earlier it couldn't connect, and now it's just running forever and I can't cancel

Poke

@Mayube seems to be having issues for me too

@StepHen nvm, looks like a TIO thing

Mr. Xcoder

Strangely, it works extremely well for me

totallyhuman

@Mayube save the link and refresh

Mayube

tried, twice

Mr. Xcoder

15:08

@Okx Thanks for editing my deleted sandbox post

Mayube

tried different languages too

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Q: Find the closest Fibonacci Number

We are all familiar with the famous Fibonacci sequence, that starts with 0 and 1, and each element is the sum of the previous two. Here are the first few terms (OEIS A000045): 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 947, 1557, 2504 Given a positive integer, return the cl...

code-golf number fibonacci

totallyhuman

jelly has no useful fibonacci builtins o0

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman Nor does Pyth

totallyhuman

looks like neim is gonna wreck everyone

Mr. Xcoder

15:17

@totallyhuman :) Unless 05AB1E has useful built-ins, we're done

Leo Poulson

afaik it doesn't have any built ins for fibonacci :(

Mr. Xcoder

No golflang has :(

Okx

@Mr.Xcoder yes i did prepare the answer

well in a way

i wrote it then forgot about it

then wrote it again

Step Hen

@Poke TIO's having issues, go look at the TIO chat for more info but basically TIO got onto hackernews and Dennis had to add some more servers, and I think he's doing some DOS protection too, so TIO's a bit wonky now. I've found just refreshing and running again works 50% of the time

Jim

@Okx In the Readme of Neim, what wiki are you referring?

Okx

15:21

the github wiki

Christopher

print("Bot1 scores: ".format("string",bot1))

What am i doing wrong?

trying to print the int array (bot1) and that string

Related: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…

Step Hen

@Mayube I think I cleared everything up, sorry for my crappy docs

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman Your answer is not working

Okx

@totallyhuman appreciated :P

Christopher

Nvm i fixed my problem

Steven Vascellaro

15:31

I'm a bit surprised meta-golf questions aren't auto-posted in chat here

DJMcMayhem

I've already gone over the recap by 185 points today

HyperNeutrino

well now my computer's battery practically doesn't exist because my computer can't draw power from the battery

and if I push the screen back a bit it will disconnect power

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem I just looked at your profile, lol

Mayube

@StepHen Hmm, I don't understand why passing 2 inputs and appending BC causes the program to simply infinitely output the first input

Mr. Xcoder

CMC: Given a number, find the next prime. If the number is a prime, output either itself or the next prime after it.

HyperNeutrino

15:35

Jelly builtin

lol

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Æp?

HyperNeutrino

but wait it's strictly next ._.

@Mr.Xcoder That's "largest prime strictly less than z"

Æn is strictly greater than

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Æn then

Ahhhh

HyperNeutrino

wait but you said we could do either for a prime lol I can't read

Okx

@Mr.Xcoder Neim, 1 byte ; outputs the next prime if the input is prime

Step Hen

15:37

@Mr.Xcoder cQuents: pz prints the next prime after for prime input

Jim

@Mr.Xcoder Pyth, 5 bytes: fP_TQ

Mr. Xcoder

Æp -> previous Prime, Æn -> next prime. That's all the Jelly I know

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder _Yq in MATL

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder do you know +? :P

Mr. Xcoder

Nice all @Okx @StepHen @Jim and @DJMcMayhem

@HyperNeutrino No

HyperNeutrino

15:39

ಠ_ಠ

Okx

@Mr.Xcoder vtc dupe of my cmc find previous prime

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx What CMC?

Step Hen

@Okx My pgm doesn't work for that

Okx

21 hours ago, by Okx

CMC: Largest prime strictly below X

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx I haven't seen that one

Step Hen

15:40

@Mayube TIO's really wonky atm. That shouldn't happen, but it did at first for me, now it's working. Here's a TIO for that, working as intended: Try it online!

HyperNeutrino

github.com/alexander-liao/unnamed-list-language

DJMcMayhem

@Okx q:tZp)P1) in MATL

Okx

@HyperNeutrino why is almost every golfing language coded in python ;-;

HyperNeutrino

it's easy to use IMO

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx Because Python is easy and it has eval and exec

HyperNeutrino

15:42

Also, you should specify "golfing language"

Step Hen

@Mayube with program #|1,1:ABC and input 2 2, A=2, B=2, C=1, n=1, so we get the first item in the sequence, where every item in the sequence is A*B*C.

Okx

easy ≠ good

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Q: Integer overflow anomaly

Could someone explain what happened to output after 18th column, considering the fact that normally when a data type reaches its max value it cycles back to its lowest value?

c

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx Python is also good :)

Mayube

@StepHen what's telling it to multiply?

Step Hen

15:42

@Mr.Xcoder JavaScript has eval too... oh wait, it can't read files

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx You can use ≠ instead

Step Hen

@Mayube with two variables AB is shorthand for A*B (like in Algebra) since there are no two letter vars

Okx

good = subjective = easy

programmer5000

Node.js can read files

Christopher

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Chopsticks mutated with points KoTH Story It is the year 4579, humans now have 2 hands with 1001 fingers each. Chopsticks has become based off of points. And @Dennis has more rep the @Martin... Hand drawn red circles are now downvoted... John Skeet has hit 2 trillion rep on every SE site... Yea...

Please give me advice on my KoTH

programmer5000

15:43

nodejs.org/api/fs.html

Christopher

Going to post if i can soon

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx subjective ≠ bad

Step Hen

@NewMainPosts RE this post: 6 views, 5 close votes, 1 minute. We did good.

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trichoplax

@Christopher Needs fewer memes

Christopher

@trichoplax What memes?

programmer5000

15:44

@Christopher Looks good, except dennis has more rep than martin

I like the memes

DJMcMayhem

Another recommendation: Please don't post a screen shot of your code. I guarantee it will be closed on SO also if you do — DJMcMayhem 11 secs ago

Hopefully they listen

Christopher

@programmer5000 I know. XD

Step Hen

@DJMcMayhem I've honestly rarely seen people even post their questions onto SO afterwards

Jim

@StepHen The 6th view was mine and it was already closed I think

programmer5000

@DJMcMayhem That person has been on SO for 12 days

Xanderhall

15:45

Why do people post so many code questions to PPCG?

Christopher

Cuz PPCG is the coolest

Step Hen

@Xanderhall "Programming Puzzles"

programmer5000

I don't see any posts on SO from that user

Maybe they are q banned on SO?

trichoplax

Every SE gets programming questions.

programmer5000

And Programming is all they read. (Who cares about "puzzles" or "code golf"?)

Step Hen

15:46

@trichoplax The non-programming ones usually don't have a close reason dedicated to So though :P

Christopher

Advice on my handler for KoTH?

I would like advice before I post

DJMcMayhem

@StepHen Yeah, IMO it's no really with sending them to SO because if they were likely to write a good question there, it means they read the help center and take time to write a good question, which means they wouldn't be posting here in the first place

Okx

honestly, we should have 10 rep for asking

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Mr. Xcoder

All the challenges are posted while I am sleeping, except for my challenges and a few other bad off-topic questions, although nearly all of you are online when I am too.

@Okx Agree

Okx

Aff?

Aff is the new covfefe?

Step Hen

15:47

@Okx Eh, I dunno. First thing I did here was ask, because I didn't know how to golf (that challenge got ~15 upvotes)

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx But we should also increase the repcap

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder I got ~600 rep from 100 upvotes, yay rep cap xD

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder Nah

programmer5000

@Okx I agree, but I got most of my rep from asking. My first 50 rep was from codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/114253/…

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem If we give 10 / question upvote, we should have repcap at ~250 / ~300

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HyperNeutrino

15:49

Imagine a world where SE reputation and IQ were proportional.

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Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Dennis would still lead us all

programmer5000

Dennis = einstein

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder Yup lol

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder Based on context, he meant have a 10 rep minimum for asking, not 10 rep for question askers (I would like that too though)

programmer5000

New users couldn't type or click buttons, so we wouldn't have crap programming qs posted once a day

Step Hen

15:50

@programmer5000 Wouldn't have new users either :P

Christopher

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Q: Chopsticks mutated with points KoTH

Basic rules (different then mine) Story It is the year 4579, humans now have 2 hands with 1001 fingers each. Chopsticks has become based off of points. And @Dennis has more rep the @Martin... Hand drawn red circles are now downvoted... John Skeet has hit 2 trillion rep on every SE site... Yeah ...

king-of-the-hill

Mr. Xcoder

One challenge posted while I am online that is not off-topic!

HyperNeutrino

But then smart people who came onto SE would get free rep, and you can't gain/lose rep normally.

Christopher

@Mr.Xcoder Fixed that :D

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino I would be very poor on rep :)

programmer5000

15:51

@StepHen Perfect! All of our spam, non-golfed and SO qs problems would be gone!

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder lol same xD

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino But I would have some rep on Physics.SE then :))

Christopher

@HyperNeutrino I would have yet to hit the repcap.

:_(

programmer5000

Woah, the starboard is only messages from <=4h ago

Step Hen

@Christopher 200 IQ is like 1 in 5 billion people, just saying

Mayube

15:53

@StepHen Solv'd... I think

Mr. Xcoder

@programmer5000 ≤ 5 mins actually

Step Hen

@Mayube Yup! and you golfed it further than me too

Mayube

Curious as to what you had now

Step Hen

@Mayube mine both worked even if C wasn't 1

Christopher

@StepHen Even with a 100 IQ never hit it iirc

Mr. Xcoder

15:54

CMC: n -> [n, n^2, n^3, ...., n^n] (should only work for small numbers)

Okx

@Mr.Xcoder what? not it isn't?

Step Hen

@Okx Starboard is bigger on bigger screens

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Q: Chopsticks mutated with points KoTH

Basic rules (different then mine) Story It is the year 4579, humans now have 2 hands with 1001 fingers each. Chopsticks has become based off of points. And @Dennis has more rep the @Martin... Hand drawn red circles are now downvoted... John Skeet has hit 2 trillion rep on every SE site... Yeah ...

king-of-the-hill

Mr. Xcoder

@Okx I use a small display and I have 3 pinned messages above the starboard, so I only see the last 3 of them.

Jan Dvorak

@Mr.Xcoder At what size does it need to break?

Okx

15:56

@Mr.Xcoder Neim, 2 bytes Δ𝕎

Mr. Xcoder

@JanDvorak Should work for 10. I'm not asking for more

Jan Dvorak

you said "should only work for small numbers"

HyperNeutrino

Jelly: R×

Mr. Xcoder

@JanDvorak Are you saying 10 is big?!

Okx

@Mr.Xcoder Alternative program: 𝐈𝕎

Step Hen

15:57

@Mayube edited in my solutions.

Mr. Xcoder

You can handle whatever you want

Don't worry about overflows

Better ^?

HyperNeutrino

Python 3: lambda x:list(range(x,x*x+x,x))

Jan Dvorak

did you mean "only needs to support small numbers"?

Mr. Xcoder

Pyth, 5 bytes: m^QdS

@JanDvorak NVM, handle what you can and want

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