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12:27 AM
@JourneymanGeek You can even choose how you wanna die in the shower: electrocution or gas poisoning!
 
@bwDraco What disturbing SSD market trends are those? And there is a NAND shortage?
 
12:47 AM
Hey @Bob, ever notice how some phones display "3G" or "4G" entries separately in the network operators list when you do a manual network search? Well I coped the CscFeature_RIL_DisplayRatInfoInManualNetSearchList line from your csc and now mine does it too!
I also added a LTE Only option to the network mode list and I think it actually works!
 
 
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1:55 AM
.... someone on a ladder just stuck a vacuum cleaner with a jerry rigged extension into a large box in the airconditioning system....
Yanno If I had any writing skills, I'm starting to feel like I have the makings of a dystopian comedy
 
Bob
2:18 AM
@NotDog never noticed :P
@JourneymanGeek o.O
ugh. knee-height urinals.
lower even
 
2:53 AM
@FaheemMitha NAND flash memory has been in short supply for more than a year already due to skyrocketing demand for high-performance NAND in devices like smartphones and SSDs, and flash memory manufacturers have had far more trouble than expected transitioning to 3D NAND.
TLC NAND is cheaper per GB than MLC NAND because it can store 50% more data, but it has lower performance and endurance. Due to cost pressures, exacerbated by the NAND shortage, production of MLC NAND is now very limited and reserved for high-end products.
Devices consisting of SLC NAND (one bit per cell) are extremely rare as true SLC NAND no longer manufactured in quantity. Although SLC NAND has extremely high performance and endurance, it is also very expensive because of its low storage density.
(TLC NAND stores three bits per cell, MLC NAND stores two bits per cell.)
Most SSDs that use TLC NAND run a portion of it in SLC mode as a high-performance write buffer, aiming to hide the low performance of the TLC NAND. This buffer also allows the SSD to combine small random writes into larger sequential writes which helps increase endurance. This buffer is typically only a few GBs in size; large sequential writes can exhaust this buffer, resulting in reduced performance, sometimes to the point where the SSD performs slower than a hard drive.
Typically, the drive flushes this SLC buffer in the background when it is not busy writing data. For most lighter consumer workloads, the slow performance of the underlying TLC NAND is not visible, but large file transfers onto the SSD can exhaust the SLC buffer. As for how combining random writes into sequential writes helps increase endurance, read up on write amplification.
Dec 14 '16 at 19:09, by Mokubai
@djsmiley2k TLC NAND is slow, so they put some real fast SLC NAND in front of it, and when the SLC gets overwhelmed the TLC speeds show through and you get a drive that looks more like spinning rust than silicon.
The technology of SSDs can be very complicated. Here are some suggested articles:
A solid-state drive (SSD, also known as a solid-state disk) is a solid-state storage device that uses integrated circuit assemblies as memory to store data persistently. SSD technology primarily uses electronic interfaces compatible with traditional block input/output (I/O) hard disk drives (HDDs), which permit simple replacements in common applications. New I/O interfaces like SATA Express and M.2 have been designed to address specific requirements of the SSD technology. SSDs have no moving mechanical components. This distinguishes them from traditional electromechanical magnetic disks such as...
Flash memory is an electronic (solid-state) non-volatile computer storage medium that can be electrically erased and reprogrammed. Toshiba developed flash memory from EEPROM (electrically erasable programmable read-only memory) in the early 1980s and introduced it to the market in 1984. The two main types of flash memory are named after the NAND and NOR logic gates. The individual flash memory cells exhibit internal characteristics similar to those of the corresponding gates. Where EPROMs had to be completely erased before being rewritten, NAND-type flash memory may be written and read in blocks...
In electronics, a multi-level cell (MLC) is a memory element capable of storing more than a single bit of information. MLC NAND flash is a flash memory technology using multiple levels per cell to allow more bits to be stored using the same number of transistors. In single-level cell (SLC) NAND flash technology, each cell can exist in one of two states, storing one bit of information per cell. Most MLC NAND flash memory has four possible states per cell, so it can store two bits of information per cell. This reduces the amount of margin separating the states and results in the possibility of more...
Write amplification (WA) is an undesirable phenomenon associated with flash memory and solid-state drives (SSDs) where the actual amount of information physically written to the storage media is a multiple of the logical amount intended to be written. Because flash memory must be erased before it can be rewritten, with much coarser granularity of the erase operation when compared to the write operation, the process to perform these operations results in moving (or rewriting) user data and metadata more than once. Thus, rewriting some data requires an already used portion of flash to be read, updated...
@FaheemMitha and others, if you'd like to discuss this in further detail, come to my PC hardware news chat room.
TL;DR: A NAND shortage is resulting in high prices and limited availability of SSDs. MLC NAND is becoming very scarce as manufacturers shift production to cheaper TLC NAND in an effort to meet skyrocketing demand for flash memory. TLC NAND is less desirable than MLC NAND because it's both slower and has lower endurance. For most consumers, this is not an issue, but it's bad news for enthusiasts who want the fastest, most durable parts for their PCs.
 
3:28 AM
anyone with any ideas? superuser.com/questions/1217780/…
 
 
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4:57 AM
@bwDraco Thank you for the detailed information. :-)
 
5:41 AM
@Burgi O_O
 
6:23 AM
@BenN hm, will look into it, thanks...
 
6:37 AM
@DavidPostill The one I bought from Chinese store was aluminum, with no plastic grips...
 
@DavidPostill @BenN you can run batch files in PowerPoint, right?
 
@NotDog You can't fake that...
I was backing up Chrome bookmarks as my usual backup routine. Not sure if I should because I suspect that bookmarks are part of Chrome's sync and are stored in Google cloud...
 
6:52 AM
 
Hi Folks. Is this a normal result for a new SSD?:
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       45
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       4
177 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0013   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 
@FaheemMitha Nothing out of the ordinary.
 
Specifically, I meant the Old_age and Pre-fail bits.
 
That refers to what the SMART attributes mean (are they just indicators of old age, or do they represent imminent failure?)
Not an indication of trouble.
 
@bwDraco Well, I don't know what they mean. Hence I'm asking...
But if it means nothing out of the ordinary, they really should come up with more reassuring nomenclature.
My new SSDs are Samsung. Does Samsung have any SSD utiltities that run under Linux?
Actually, the SSD came with a CD. Maybe I should look at that.
 
7:02 AM
@FaheemMitha There's a special version of Samsung Magician software for Linux, but it's intended for datacenter drives so I kinda doubt it'll work.
 
@bwDraco Oh. Ok.
 
And. Just finished unboxing moving and setting up PCs. There goes most of my sat.
 
Bob
8:00 AM
@JourneymanGeek :(
 
8:15 AM
(I have state mandated fitness classes after that. I'm at 14800 steps today already 0_0)
 
8:45 AM
@JourneymanGeek whoa.
@JoeStavitsky yeah. Will a batch file solution do?
I have something in mind, are you dealing with flash drives? And what's your purpose?
 
9:24 AM
@Rahul2001 that's usually a full day's stepcount for me.
Fwiw I'm waiting for it to start and I'm at 16.5 k ....
Aww. Got a rejection email from a job application. I kinda think those are ok since at least you know they looked at you.
 
@JourneymanGeek :(
 
 
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10:28 AM
 
11:10 AM
@Rahul2001 my god
that 9gag badge
that jpeg artifacting...
 
@Avery haha
 
hey i will do terror events but nope i was joking im just a girl it wasnt me it was my 4 year old brother take his ip not mine
 
@Avery the funny thing is...
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy ugh I remember missing a doctor appointment by 10 minutes because the subway had issues
 
American Airlines wouldn't have gotten the IP anyway
 
11:15 AM
shush
jokes don't need reality
 
;p
 
@Avery the doctor left hospital. That's rude considering the appointment was intended to be an hour long.
 
@Avery Happened with my orthodontist. Not good.
There was a thunderstorm and I was 20 mins late, but I'd called and said that I would be late and it was supposed to be a 1.5 hour long appointment anyway
 
t'was my endo. She went on being a terrible person when I actually got to the appointment so ugh.
 
:/
 
11:31 AM
@Avery :(
 
mewantsahug
 
@Rahul2001 hugs
 
@Bob well notice it now!
Once again one of those things sony has had for a while
 
Bob
11:52 AM
@NotDog so it does
 
@Rahul2001 huggles you
@NotDog what is this? Looks p cool
 
@Avery Galaxy S7
 
ew samsung
 
Has a skin on it though hence the different colours
@Bob Ooh dem roaming
Strange Australian network setup ftw
I'm thinking of buying a Sony Xperia XZ Premium
 
12:11 PM
Does BA really think that a youtube advert is going to convince me to use them, or that I can afford to fly somewhere right now? XD
 
@djsmiley2k lol
 
This is my problem with this whole 'omg google know eveerything about us!'
clearly they don't have a flrikkin clue
with any large enough group, everything averages out
anywa\y byw
time to go look at paint.
 
Bob
1:02 PM
23:02:03: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\AI Suite III\File Transfer\Wi-Fi GO! AssistTool\WiFiGO_HookKey.dll".
wtf asus
 
1:23 PM
My parents are funny sometimes. They're pretty much trying to match me up with the daughter of a acquaintance. She's kinda cute, and about 7 years younger. I'm cool with it if she is. Mom's mentioned that her parents were asking... like geeze mom, its obvious you're trying to match us up with the bringing me along to meet them the other time.... ;p
I do want work to settle down first tho
and do the arranged marriage equivalent of dating and a long distance relationship I suppose
 
This makes me grin for some reason
@JourneymanGeek hm
 
@Rahul2001 I'm fine with it ;p
Just god, just say so
"So, she seems a nice girl, and but she's a fair bit younger"
and I'll be all "Ok, lets see what happens"
 
"equivalent of dating and a long distance relationship", elucidate, if you don't mind?
 
Oh, getting to know each other before potentially getting engaged, and the period between that and getting married ;p
Much quicker than the modern way, in a few respects ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek Ah cool
 
1:29 PM
how old are you btw
 
oh
does maths
 
I can just picture @JourneymanGeek working on a computer with a litter of a dozen pups playing around the room ;P
 
yes according to the XKCD bible, you can date!
 
:D
 
1:31 PM
that xkcd only really applies when you're over 18 though
 
@JourneymanGeek BE SURE TO ASK THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION... Does she like dogs??
 
@Rahul2001 they apparently adopted a new pup
So yes
 
like if you're 16, it's 15-18.
 
I'll be honest here. I don't think I can live with anyone who does not like dogs
 
Let the celebration begin...!
@Avery Meh, that works
 
1:32 PM
kinda depends yeah it does
 
I dated someone who was 13 (but mature for her age) when I was 15.
 
I think the widest age difference I had was.... 5 years
but I was in my early mid 20s, so any bigger gap would have been creeeepy
 
@JourneymanGeek haha
Is doggy dating any different than human dating?
 
@Rahul2001 a little more butt sniffing I suppose
The roomie, however is a bachelor and a perfect gentleman.
 
Ahh :P
 
1:38 PM
Tho we were offered, at least once, whether his services could be procured for... half the litter.
Considering the whole rather interesting saga of ash of spottiswood park.... we probably would have 1) had no trouble finding homes for em 2) missed the pack of doggy great grandkids hugely.
 
Hm, will chat break without jquery?
 
probably
 
LOL
VODAFONE JUST CALLED ME
their opening sentence is "Merhabalar sizi vodafone cagri merkezinden ariyoruz"
 
@Avery translate?
 
before they could speak, said "Merhabalar, beni vodafone cagri merkezinden ariyorsunuz"
 
user226528
1:41 PM
Is that Turkish?
 
yes
 
EN ANGLAIS SIL VOUS PLAIS FILLE!
 
first one is "Hello we're calling you from vodafone call center", second is "Hello you're calling me from vodafone call center"
 
angrezi mein bataiye
bangla teh bolo
 
ah lol
 
1:42 PM
and they literally hung up without even speaking
 
Englishm vadati
(hindi-bangla-sanskrit)
@Avery lol
 
 
user226528
So, it seems a cookie monster has come by and has removed the old chatroom topic. Apparently, not everyone is fond of the glorious communism and spontaneous disassembly.
 
It was redacted
 
1:59 PM
> Our business partner Tempo call center calls our precious Vodafone subscriptions to make telephone sales calls. When making calls, they are made via 08502524222 no.

Contact information:

Tempo: 0850 252 4222 - 0850 1000542 - 0850 252 0542 (Tempo company working hours are 09:00 to 18:00 on weekdays)

Tempo Call Center and Business Process Outsourcing Services Tic. Inc.
Address: Gülbahar Mah. Ali Meriç Business Center Floor: 1-3 D.6-13 Uysal Sok. 34394 Mecidiyekoy-Sisli / İSTANBUL
They lied.
@FleetCommand It was redacted by @ThatREDACTEDGuy
 
@DavidPostill hm?
 
Tempo is not Vodaphone :)
"we're calling you from vodafone call center" is a lie. The truth is "we're calling you from tempo call center"
 
ah
 
@DavidPostill That is, in fact, [REDACTED]. However, I should [REDACTED] that it's [REDACTED] because [REDACTED]. See?
@DavidPostill Don't make me remember the 3 worst months of my professional life, working as an ISP tech support in a call center. I wasn't an employee of the ISP, but rather a call center employee and the stories... Oh the horror stories.
 
2:16 PM
@ThatREDACTEDGuy lol
[REDACTED] abuse :)
 
MOD [REDACTED]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy redacting things is hard. ;p
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy I am going to [redacted] your [redacted].
 
Bob
hi
 
Really? You're going to cook my meals? How wonderful of you! :D
But how are you gonna do it with such tiny arms?
 
2:20 PM
:(
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy tongs.
and if its good, you can say, tongs for the memories.
 
And make sure you don't use metal ones :)
 
Bob
I walk into the chatroom and see [REDACTED] everywhere
wtf
are you trying to summon the NSA or something?
 
@JourneymanGeek Didn't know dinos wore underwear
 
2:22 PM
@Bob See the new Room Description :)
 
that's thongs
 
@Bob I'm quite popular, you see
 
sigh soooo tempted to replace popular with [redacted] ;p
 
That's just [REDACTED].
 
really big [redacted].
So [redacted] that you can [redacted] a [redacted] with them
 
2:24 PM
I like really big [REDACTED]s. Wish I had one as rigid as that, mine is kinda soft... And greenish.
 
I suppose I should be happy that didn't onebox ...
@jokerdino ^^^
 
O_O
That's so [redacted]!!1
 
How we amuse ourselves on a wet saturday afternoon ...
 
@JourneymanGeek Why are @allquixotic and @jokerdino so mad? And what's Microsoft got to do with it?
 
Bob
2:35 PM
room topic changed to Root Access: For all you Super Users out there. You have backups, right? Current topics: ██████████ [computers] [redacted]
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@JourneymanGeek I have that sticker!
I have a sheet of them actually
it's in there somewhere
with less dinasours probably
 
need more
 
lol
I'll take a picture of my stream tommorrow
I'm a bit anal retentive of not overlapping tho
or at least very careful overlapping
 
2:58 PM
@Rahul2001 You can use VBA to start a cmd process that runs your batch file
Alternatively you can use PowerShell to work with PowerPoint objects without any VBA at all
 
Thanks
 
@jokerdino I have a ton more but it's mostly microsoft and I dislike them personally.
 
@Avery me likey
@Avery because of telemetry and stuff?
 
yeah and other stuff
other stuff is under nda
 
@Avery I mean dinosaurs
 
3:11 PM
oh
my sticker collection
 
@Avery telegram?
 
3:32 PM
(Messaged)
 
4:02 PM
(hi)
(add Avery to the random Telegram group??)
 
(hello)
(@Avery interested?)
(It's not active, pretty dead)
 
(hello)
 
(maybe it needs phone no.)
 
(sure)
 
wha
 
4:05 PM
but you can add by tg username too
 
yeah
done
 
What's the group web address? I removed it when it was dead.
 
It's dead most of the times.
 
4:31 PM
Can anyone identify what this is?
That A10... Is that apple?
The Apple A10 Fusion is a 64-bit system on a chip (SoC), designed by Apple Inc. and manufactured by TSMC. It is the fastest single-threaded mobile SoC released to date, and first appeared in the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus which were introduced on September 7, 2016. The A10 is the first Apple-produced quad-core SoC, with two high-performance cores and two energy-efficient cores. Apple states that it has 40% greater CPU performance and 50% greater graphics performance compared to its predecessor, the Apple A9. == Design == The A10 with a die area of 125 mm2, 3.3 billion transistors (including the GPU and...
@satibel Wait, why am I going to africa?
 
@Nick Allwinner A10.
 
@bwDraco Is that picture a generic SBC with Allwinner A10, or can I somehow find the exact model?
 
Can't tell what model this is.
brb.
 
@bwDraco Are there even models to this?
 
5:10 PM
I'd like to understand what possible advantage it provides spammers who use these numbers as telemarketing when they fill a webpage with the number over and over: wiki.lxde.org/en/…
Is it some form of SEO to try to block sites yelling "it's a scam!" from being higher in the search?
 
@allquixotic Spammers are stupid Rule #3. They think that keyword stuffing actually makes a difference to SEO.
 
@DavidPostill Doesn't article size matter in pagerank or some other similar algorithm? I'd be suprised if it's not.
 
@Nick No.
> PageRank works by counting the number and quality of links to a page to determine a rough estimate of how important the website is. The underlying assumption is that more important websites are likely to receive more links from other websites.
 
@DavidPostill Oh, I was confusing no. of links with no. of words. Thanks.
 
> It's not the size of the page that matters - it's the speed the page is downloaded on the user's device that matters (although there is of course a relation between these two). In general people expect a site to load in 2/3 seconds.

There is an interesting article about that on the kissmetrics site: https://blog.kissmetrics.com/speed-is-a-killer/ - with a lot of useful resources & links. If you do search here on moz you'll probably find a lot of useful info as well. I think with the increasing focus on mobile, speed will become more important as ranking factor.
 
5:25 PM
52 mins ago, by Nick
Can anyone identify what this is?
 
I's not an "Apple" A10, it's some generic Arm chip that saw that ARM went A7, A9 and they decided to jump on the bandwagon.
 
@Mokubai Ah, well, just wanted to update that I found out the SBC was pcDuino
@Mokubai But it does make you wonder, what if Apple brought out an SBC!
@DavidPostill Ranking sounds tough.
 
@Nick If you write good content then it happens organically. You need to write stuff that 1/ people actually want to read and 2/ find useful. Then they will link to the content ...
 
@Nick It'd be shitty and overpriced?
 
@DavidPostill Who are the people who research on all this stuff?
@Mokubai Yeah, but finally, Woz's dream machine would be realized.
Oh, wait... the Mac thing is just a screen... no box...
 
5:32 PM
@Nick shrug people make careers out of it ...
 
...isn't that already like an SBC?
@DavidPostill Sounds interesting. What are the postions and who's hiring? I'd like to apply.
 
@Nick Search for SEO (Search Engine Optimisation). Be aware that a lot of companies doing this are actually charlatans selling snake oil solution that at best don't work or worse will harm your rankings.
 
@Nick What exactly was Woz's dream machine?
 
 
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6:46 PM
@:?
 
 
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8:44 PM
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that's non-random gibberish typing
gpmchmenuyazxaksnbwrinyasrpdianqgpdpdcwbrnckbpnuemzwzykshxfhjzsrdsksviycupcrbfqs‌​dyfmxevcgqhspwgwimevcjwnikmgfbutwrgqeyraefdszmnyehaemitmzjiphcmuyahkmijfiziksdfti‌​dbcxwwuekzjukmwnwnuqfcaxqrubszsvqbcmzavsdmyawfhdcysizrnukibixsztrjsxtypfapcjtsyry‌​pidtezjwkttuawqkqdgjvykhcfquzfrcjvjbsgznwvznajvhnpzjuinrguqcznptastxemxnbwvbpisbx‌​htwgpjxnqkegaqukqpyfuvadzttpnqtfwihuanuufknmfdeijkervqypemshwtueiefadstxmzjbdqdxr‌​rfkbtwjvacpxcwvpartehnqwhstsxenyhwvxekjbyqgicvsreyrqjrtyiwxdembxsfdapemdswpuvixcm‌​bgnqbxtbnspnvkn
that's pseudo-random gibberish from a password generator
you can clearly tell the difference - my gibberish typing is more ordered and more predictable
 
@allquixotic @allquixotic just walked on his keyboard ...
 
@allquixotic trying to close vim?
6
 
@tereško lol
 
9:08 PM
 
9:33 PM
@allquixotic Is this in response to someone?
 
@djsmiley2k no just found it interesting that there's detectable difference in randomness
 
Hello does someone has an idea on this?
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Q: How to do to perform post request with http/2 pipelining

user2284570As part of a bash script, I need to send a huge number (between 90,000 and 100,000) of json post requests over the same connection to a server which supports http/2 and pipelining Which is the command I need to use for that?

 
10:15 PM
@user2284570 By the way, it's considered a bit rude to post your question here only a few minutes after posting on the main site. You should give people a chance to read it there first and not expect instant answers.
 
@DavidPostill it's is?
 
@Avery By some people, yes ;p
 
I was pointing out the typo
I know and agree that it's rude
 
@Avery Ah. Fixed. Thanks :)
 
@allquixotic rotflmao
 
11:51 PM
Hi folks. I have some elementary questions about GRUB and booting in general.The basics seem to have gone fuzzy. And there seems to be nobody in the U&L chat room. And I don't feel like posting my random babblings as a question. Is it ok if I ask here? Assuming there are Linux users here - though my questions aren't really OS dependent.
 
@FaheemMitha ask away
 
Actually, this answer was helpful:
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A: How do boot sectors and multiple drives works?

quack quixoteWil's answer is vaguely correct, but isn't technically accurate. Yes, a drive does not need an MBR. Without one, you will be unable to boot from that drive, and you will not be able to create partitions on that drive. BUT... The term Master Boot Record is often used to refer to two things -- ...

 
@allquixotic Why were you even running a voice reader on that?
 
Just to confirm. Suppose I have multiple drives, each with GRUB installed in the MBR. The choice of which GRUB takes control on boot is determined solely by the MBR, correct? I don't see how it could be otherwise.
And if that is the case, consider the extra complication when there are say 4 drives, which are software raided (MDRAID) into two pairs. Since, presumably the BIOS has to designate one drive to be booted from, is it true that the md{k} device that gets booted from is determined by which md{k} the designated disk belongs to?
 

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