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1:01 PM
@Mithrandir lol the whatever is Martin in Japanese :)
 
I'll be gone for the day soon, would appreciate if somebody could check if the GD admins are responding to my question from earlier today at some point
so that the PR can finally be merged github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/621
in The Ink Spot, 2 hours ago, by tripleee
okay to interpret the +6 on the Spam Blot meta question as "go ahead" now?
I'm finally getting slightly better at copy/pasting permalinks!
 
o.o
How can you be bad at pasting a link?
 
@M.A.R. I somehow end up opening the link in a separate tab and pasting something else rather than copy/pasting the permalink (control-click and command-click have different behaviors in different browsers on the Mac)
(I think)
 
@tripleee Meh, such meta sites usually are done with a post like that by the second day it's through
I'm saying from my experience on meta.Chem
 
1:07 PM
@M.A.R. yeah, we agreed to leave it for the weekend but I don't think much happened there after Friday
 
If you don't hear disagreement or a strong opinion in the first two days, there's most probably not going to be one
Unless you end up seeing someone comment on it ten months later. o.o
 
@Henders nice? must be a graph of autoflags rather than a graph of spam then, I presume
 
CI on 882d69b succeeded.
 
Yep autoflags :p
 
@M.A.R. yeah, but they specifically wanted there to be a consensus so it would be rather ugly to not check with them one last time before merging
@Henders (-:
 
1:08 PM
@Henders Your Testosterone levels boosted all of a sudden?
 
What is the false-positive rate for autoflags again?
 
@M.A.R. Yeah and my skin is insanely good too...
 
@Wrzlprmft small enough to fit on one page
 
@Wrzlprmft They're very rare, but it should be somewhere on MS
 
@Wrzlprmft maximum FP rate is 0.5%
current rate is somewhere below that
 
1:10 PM
actually one recently (corresponding to three flags) metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/flagging/logs?filter=fps
@Magisch et al I guess you noticed that already? ^
 
@Wrzlprmft current is 0.15%
 
@tripleee They did, and got two pings to fix them
Magisch isn't here to retract tho', it seems
 
Is auto-retraction going to be a thing?
 
If the API would let us, it would
but that FR has been sitting there for several months
 
That's a shame...
 
1:14 PM
Several months is not 6–8 years, so
Patience, young Henders
 
87
Q: Allow retracting flags from the API

UndoFor a project I'm working on, it'd be nice to be able to retract flags through the API. We allow people to retract flags from the web. Could this functionality be extended to the API? It could work such that you receive a 'Retract Flags' option on calls to /questions/{id}/flags/options, then pas...

 
Ugh, how many of you have attempted to clean your glasses but only made them worse?
 
^ That's basically my whole life :P
@Mithrandir Thanks, I was just trying to find that :p
 
Can we leave an automatic comment on wrongly flagged posts explaining where the surge of downvotes comes from? (Extra points for instantly flagging this comment as obsolete.)
 
@M.A.R. Clearly (pun intended) you are not cleaning them correctly with the right cloth/solution/wipe
 
1:17 PM
I guess fingers don't count as the right cloth
 
@M.A.R. I gave up cleaning them. They're chipped.
 
BRB I can hardly see your faces
 
We're all over the world, of course you can't see us.
 
Back
OMG, everything is HD again
 
I made the dumb decision to get anti glare on mine... and thanks to that they get dirty x10s faster :/
 
1:20 PM
Hmm, I don't see any anti-glare
 
yeah, that's definitely glaring at me
 
Looks like it's sleeping to me...
 
Trust me - it's there...
It's the dirty bit
 
1:33 PM
@CalvT The bit behind the glasses? o.O
 
@M.A.R. Lol - nicely played :D
 
1:57 PM
@FelixSFD Thanks, retracted.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Crash firefox using JavaScript by user7808981 on stackoverflow.com
tpu- by Henders
 
@SmokeDetector K
 
2:48 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Should you justify or left-align text when writing? by NicholasWalker on academia.SE (@Wrzlprmft)
tpu- by Wrzlprmft
 
3:06 PM
@SmokeDetector K
 
3:32 PM
!!/alive
 
@CalvT ... did I miss something?
 
@QPaysTaxes He/It/She did?
OK, this NEEDS to be cleared.
What is Smokey's gender, and how to correctly refer to Smokey without being botist?
 
male
 
"Smokey"
 
Or that
 
3:45 PM
-_-
 
@Glorfindel Not constructive.
 
3:59 PM
Oh dear. Flagging ...
 
@Glorfindel That was flagged
 
. . .
What happened here? o.o
 
I guess someone found that comment sexist
 
Oh well, best if we move on, I guess
 
I think it would be best if the stars were cleared on that
 
4:11 PM
Is copy-pasting in Chrome broken for anyone else after the final update?
 
Version?
 
That's two flags. I've removed it
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Remove stretch-marks by Linda Robert on superuser.com
tpu- by Henders
 
@SmokeDetector k
sd - autoflagged?
 
1. [:36466246] <skipped>
2. [:36466242] That post was automatically flagged, using flags from: Andy, Henders, Alexis King.
 
4:13 PM
Last flag (/¯◡ ‿ ◡)/¯ ~ ┻━┻
 
@quartata Neat that the question mark doesn't break the command! :o
 
It can be any punctuation
sd 2- autoflagged!
Or at least it usually is?
 
Haha
 
!!/alive!
 
@quartata You doubt me?
 
4:17 PM
cricket
 
!!/errorlogs 50
sd gone
Maybe not with reply commands.
 
@quartata 57.0.2987.133
Hmm . . .
 
I'm on 57.0.2987.98
 
13 secs ago, by M.A.R.
Hmm . . .
Copy-pasting links works
 
Look how far out of date you are?! That's probably a whole 2 hours old!
 
4:21 PM
I get enough of that from The Bridge
 
@Andy 7200000 milliseconds?!
Outrageous
That's even more than Jon Skeet's current rep
Ctrl+C or using the mouse to copy text doesn't seem to work
 
@ArtOfCode Is it instead possible to do something like get Smokey to ping them here if the flag should be retracted? Although I guess not everyone who flags is in this room anyway...
* Probably most people aren't here
 
TIL my neighbour isn't very smart
asks if I have anti diarrhea pills cause he just ate 6 packets of five gum in 30 minutes
 
@Henders It's possible, yes, but Real Value is probably minimal
Quite a bit of work for a total of ten posts across the last three months
 
4:36 PM
@Magisch what on earth
 
@Magisch Your neighbor might have problems anti-diarrhea pills aren't gonna solve. This might be a good time to take advantage of that nationalized healthcare thing.
 
I told him to go to the doc if it gets bad
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Pro Testosterone dual simultaneous without experiencing foundation surgery by Nervenil on superuser.com
tpu- by Magisch
 
It takes some pretty strong stuff to etch rubberized plastic.
 
I'm more impressed that he managed to down over a pound of gum before realizing it was a bad idea
 
4:39 PM
I could see how someone unfamiliar with gum would make the "tastes good -> swallow and get more" leap.
Not much of a leap, just the pattern everything else follows.
 
real talk should I go back over and tell him to go to the hospital
we're talking ~930g of gum
 
@Magisch Was it a dare?
 
TWO POUNDS?
 
no clue
 
Hehe, commit #666 in the userscripts repo
 
4:41 PM
Oh man. Now I want gum
 
@Magisch If it's really two pounds of gum, probably.
 
oh jeez
 
Digestive systems are okay at letting stuff pass through, but I don't know about that much stuff.
 
I feel like the world is playing a practical joke on me these days around april 1st
first my school gets a chemical weapons alarm and now this
 
4:44 PM
definitely hospital, methinks
 
Makes some sense that it could contain addictive stuff, which would explain swallowing two pounds of it. Probably good to get it checked out.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.skinscam.com/ultimate-alpha-extreme-review/ by Mrsentle on apple.SE
tpu- by Magisch
 
Skinscam FTW
 
....is MAR secretly a spammer?
 
Is that one userscript broken for anyone else?
 
4:49 PM
Wonder if it was one of those that criticized the product
 
The one that adds live feedback and autoflag counts and deletion logs to post rows. CSS hasn't been right for weeks for me.
 
@Undo You mean AIM?
@Undo Even after refresh?
FDSC has been intermittently failing to feedback for me even though I always wait for it to load except in AU
@quartata Now you know too much
Wills @quartata into obedience
 
Ha, no. SR 18.
 
If you won't join my ranks, you will have to be extinguished
 
Anywho @Undo thoughts on using python-pcre in Smokey NG? It requires building natives which I'm not a fan of
 
4:59 PM
yeah that sounds like a bad idea
 
@Undo Looks like CSS that failed to load for AIM
 
@quartata That would make remote pulling a whole lot more complicated
 
@Undo Yep, the system is actually good enough not really to need that feature. Good point!
 
@Cerbrus Yep. Persists after a cache clear.
... oh, I'm a major point behind
So it just didn't update. Or I didn't update it.
Anyway, works now
 
Major? That's quite a while since that's changed, afaik
 
5:03 PM
I was on 0.12.x, latest is .13.x
 
@Undo ? Why? It's just a dependency
 
Oh, I was thinking of a different thing. Nevermind
 
but yeah building things to make it work is something I'd prefer not to have to do
 
Revised non-ignorant questions: What's the benefit, and does it mean touching existing regexes?
 
And, why don't the other regex libraries that don't require building natives work?
 
5:07 PM
(afk)
 
No touching regex. Means we get PCRE which means more sophisticated regexs (\K and recursion) come to mind
@Andy current lib requires building too
 
Difference is this needs libpcre
 
I guess I'm confused
 
Yes.
That
Sorry on mobile and typing with one hand
(Other hand carrying a giant bag)
 
5:18 PM
!!/alive
 
@CalvT ... did I miss something?
 
Nah jus testing something
 
5:34 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Centering a contact form button using CSS & HTML by tarzan61 on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Is it illegal/unlawful to use an adblocker? by Deez Nuts on law.SE
tpu- by Henders
 
@SmokeDetector autoflagged
 
@Henders That post was not automatically flagged by metasmoke.
 
@SmokeDetector That totally should be autoflagged. Maybe we should add a check for f*** (him|her) (right)? in the (wherever)?
That would catch quite a bit I think
Ah, Nevermind. It looks like it would only catch 8 results
 
5:51 PM
'Almost exclusively swear' or something though... Sometimes you can edit it out but if that's all that is there, I'd be interested to know why it doesn't get autoflagged...
 
Hello!
 
We should blacklist "pussy". A quick search shows 106 tpu, 4 fp 1 NAA. That seems pretty good to me.
 
@DJMcMayhem Maybe except on Pets.SE?
 
There's only one fp on pets
 
6:06 PM
@DJMcMayhem IDK, it would make sense to always unblacklist stuff that one could easily imagine a legitimate use for in some site
And I thought it was already blacklisted
 
!!/test-a pussy
 
> Would not be caught as an answer.
 
Apparently not
 
!!/test pussy
 
> Blacklisted username
----------
Username - Position 1-6: pussy
 
6:11 PM
!!/test-q pussy
 
> Would not be caught as a question.
 
@quartata difference is our existing library gets built for us by pip
Unless we absolutely need pcre, I'd rather stick with what we know.
2
 
Restart: API quota is 13410.
 
6:48 PM
What happened there? ^
 
@Andy it suddenly started recording failures instead of moving on to other flaggers, or something similar
Fixed as soon as CardOfOat noticed it
 
That's a rather boring explanation. I was hoping for fireworks.
 
@Andy Even the spoonerism in CardOfOat can't fix it?
 
7:28 PM
@Andy We started recording the case where the user didn't have an account on the relevant site, but didn't exempt it from creating errors.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: You Tube Video not autoplay in mobile browser by aakash on stackoverflow.com
 
No wait
@SmokeDetector gone
I'm not sure about it
 
tpu- by DavidPostill
 
@SmokeDetector @David you sure? I think it's trying to prove the other answer wrong
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: healthpowerzone.com/endovex-review/ by JoyceMullis on graphicdesign.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
7:35 PM
@SmokeDetector K
 
@M.A.R. By linking to a godaddy website - registered a couple of days ago ...
 
Hmm, point
Conflicting feedback tho'
I'll just refrain from feeding back and voting for now
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body, repeating characters in title: Error aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa by akaike on stackoverflow.com
tp- by MAR
 
@M.A.R. I've retracted. I've only just come out of a flag ban on SO.
 
@Andy technically, none of the jokes here are constructive. I mean, even my female colleagues were laughing about that one. I understand the standard on Charcoal is a bit higher than other chatrooms, and I'm fine with the message being removed, but I don't understand why I needed to be kicked.
 
7:40 PM
@Glorfindel User removed from blacklist (7805977 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@Glorfindel Oops, looks like that happened automatically. Should have thought to check.
 
What would've happened if I had said instead "Smokey doesn't think about s*x every 7 seconds, so she must be female"? I'm just exaggerating stereotypes a bit.
 
@Glorfindel How long was the kick? o.o
 
That's the nice thing about the trash can. You only get invited into the trash.
 
IDK, an hour or less. I was commuting, so it didn't matter anyway, but it robbed me of any chance to reply.
 
7:41 PM
@Glorfindel then I would have replied with the relevant XKCD
 
@M.A.R. validating flags throw a full-on 30min suspension. I completely forgot about it when I saw what happened.
 
IIRC you need Six Flags (pun intended) to chat-ban somebody.
 
or a moderator involved
 
@Undo But I think I have seen messages removed before without the flags being validated?
 
I take it was a flag nuke then?
 
7:42 PM
Pretty confusing system
 
@M.A.R. Chat is pretty bad about flags, yeah.
@Glorfindel I agree that political correctness has gone too far, but at some point there's a desire not to be in the middle of a giant meta kerfluffle about something that really doesn't matter.
 
@Glorfindel Yeah, but it's perhaps ironically a better system than the main site. If people don't agree, the weight reduces
That's not possible with main site flags
 
The downside is that all 10k-ers are automatically exposed to the worst the human nature can post here
 
@JanDvorak Meh, they can't get that NSFW even if they tried
Main sites get much worse stuff
Which is disappointing
We can do better, people
 
They sure can. Although, the answer spree that prompted the creation of gasMask is a pretty rare occurence.
 
7:46 PM
@Undo exactly - that's why I was fine with the message itself being removed, but not with me having no chance to reply to the situation :)
 
@JanDvorak Hmm? What's gasMask?
 
@Glorfindel Absolutely. My apologies for not figuring out what happened
 
Past midnight here
No inside jokes
 
@Undo @Andy no problem.
 
@Glorfindel, I didn't intentionally kick you. I did validate a flag on the message though. I'm sorry for the unintended kick that came with that.
 
7:48 PM
Kicking Glorfindel
 
@M.A.R. and, did it work?
 
@Glorfindel I can always imagine kicking you
 
@ArtOfCode Yeah, but I don't see in the list of sites I can flag on.
 
For some reason, I was reminded of the '2pac in da house' incident
 
it's been around for a while
 
7:51 PM
@ArtOfCode Yeah, but I don't see it in the list of sites I can flag on
 
hm
 
@M.A.R. one of the userscripts for this room, to block images from 1-rep users. It's been pretty much discontinued now, but if the need to use it arises again I'll turn it off on main and integrate it with FIRE instead.
 
devops hasn't been added, actually.
 
@JanDvorak Ahh, I forgot its name
 
Oh, fun. We're going to have issues with the meta.* -> *.meta migration
 
7:54 PM
@Undo How so? I thought we don't have anything to do with metas
 
They're still in the MS db
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Lumps of flour in my sauce by hello on cooking.SE
tpu- by Glorfindel
naa- by MAR
 
@SmokeDetector Hey
 
API quota rolled over with 12827 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.
stackoverflow: 107
askubuntu: 26
superuser: 24
electronics: 19
webapps: 15
unix: 15
math: 15
english: 14
dba: 14
graphicdesign: 12
salesforce: 12
es.stackoverflow: 11
drupal: 10
chemistry: 9
money: 9
mathoverflow.net: 9
codegolf: 8
outdoors: 8
gaming: 8
stats: 7
tex: 7
gis: 6
scifi: 6
meta: 6
worldbuilding: 6
movies: 5
physics: 5
wordpress: 5
softwareengineering: 5
security: 5
android: 5
biology: 5
sharepoint: 5
sqa: 5
magento: 5
ru.stackoverflow: 4
raspberrypi: 4
serverfault: 4
travel: 4
apple: 4
fp- by Glorfindel
 
8:38 PM
Restart: API quota is 19826.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Something less demanding to state than to do. When by aligerrapora on graphicdesign.SE
 
!!/alive?
 
@Undo Of course
 
Huh, email
 
@Undo according to Firefox, the SSL certificate for metasmoke expired three minutes ago.
 
Oh, metasmoke reboot. Nevermind.
Oh, really? That's what it is then, thanks
 
8:40 PM
Restart: API quota is 19806.
Restart: API quota is 19797.
Restart: API quota is 19791.
 
!!/errorlogs 50
 
  File "/home/ubuntu/Smokey/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 131, in post_fkeyed
    data['fkey'] = self.chat_fkey

  File "/home/ubuntu/Smokey/ChatExchange/chatexchange/_utils.py", line 104, in __get__
    method()

  File "/home/ubuntu/Smokey/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 242, in _update_chat_fkey_and_user
    self._load_user(favorite_soup)

  File "/home/ubuntu/Smokey/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 225, in _load_user
    user_id, user_name = self.user_id_and_name_from_link(user_link_soup)
 
Looks like smokey can't handle that invalid SSL certificate.
 
Restart: API quota is 19778.
 
yeah, it doesn't like it
Trying to remember how LE works
 
8:47 PM
how'd it expire? Doesn't Let's Encrypt auto-renew?
 
Looks like it's broken
 
@NobodyNada I'm going to go with "nope"
 
An unexpected error occurred:
KeyError: 'server'
Please see the logfiles in /var/log/letsencrypt for more details.
Ubuntu has an old package
 
Restart: API quota is 19772.
Restart: API quota is 19763.
 
@Glorfindel Same issue here
 
8:53 PM
Restart: API quota is 19755.
 
I wanted to come here because MS had been broken, but everyone here already knew it...
 
Restart: API quota is 19749.
 
Fixed now
!!/master
 
@Undo Great, thank you!
 
Restart: API quota is 19747.
 
8:56 PM
@Undo confirmed
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Template based dynamic div rendering with animation by gaetanoM on stackoverflow.com
 
^ 16k user o.O
 
@SmokeDetector sd v
@SmokeDetector v
 
Gone
 
tpu- by caffeineaddiction
 
9:01 PM
@CaffeineAddiction not spam, vandalism
 
@NobodyNada Invalid format. Valid format: !!/rmblu profileurl or !!/rmblu userid sitename.
 
...huh?
 
@NobodyNada is there an option for that in FIRE?
 
@NobodyNada Invalid format. Valid format: !!/rmblu profileurl or !!/rmblu userid sitename.
 
9:02 PM
@CaffeineAddiction yep; tp-
I'd recommend you retract your spam flag BTW
 
@NobodyNada are you missing the http or something?
 
nope
Ohhhh, I was trying to unblacklist the answer
sigh...
 
That's the link to the answer
Haha, ninja!
 
9:04 PM
@NobodyNada User removed from blacklist (3880585 on stackoverflow.com).
 
Uuuugggghhhh...
 
:p
 
 
1 hour later…
10:11 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Resizing /dev/sda with default luks / lvm partitioning by kjskjk kjdksjk on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
fp- by DavidPostill
 
10:37 PM
Bah. Forgot that I have no hard-wired Ethernet in London, and left the power cable for my AirPort in Portsmouth. Looks like I'm working off a laptop for the next month...
 
@ArtOfCode Can't you ask somebody to post it to London for you?
 
@DavidPostill There's nobody there, unfortunately
 
@ArtOfCode they have pretty generic cables don't they? Or does yours have a power brick
 
@ArtOfCode how long of a drive to go get it?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Simplest Android Activity Lifecycle by techclinch on stackoverflow.com
 
10:49 PM
@CalvT you'd think, but I don't have a spare and I can't find one anywhere online
 
What airport is it? All latest use these amazon.co.uk/d/Audio-Video-Cables/…
 
@angussidney apart from the fact that I can't drive (well, legally), too long
 
Figure 8 power cable
 
fp- by Kyll
 
@angussidney I guess depending on traffic it's 1:30 to 2:00
 
11:03 PM
@CalvT lifesaver
 
@ArtOfCode glad I could help :)
 
and this is why I have Prime: ordered 0009Z, guaranteed delivery 1700-2100Z.
 
11:44 PM
@JF you didn't adapt sechatr at all for inclusion in coal, did you?
 
J F
@ArtOfCode sechatr? What’s that?
nvm. It should work fine @ArtOfCode — make sure you have the latest commit off of master.
 
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