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M.A.R.

9:00 PM

I deja vu'd @Jason telling @Glor he's jealous of his badges

Which I think did happen a few days ago

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: NodeJS NPM Proxy error by Shubham Rana on stackoverflow.com

M.A.R.

@quartata Especially Amazon oneboxes

NobodyNada

back, although I'll have to go for a while in ~20 minutes

quartata

Soo @ArtOfCode any quick smokey-ng questions? I'll probably be gone for an hour or so here in a second

M.A.R.

Sometimes AIM keeps loading and loading and loading. It only used to do that when I came here first in the morning, and it has been recurring more often. Thankfully, a refresh still fixes it.

Jason C

9:02 PM

@Glorfindel That said I am the proud holder of the largest reversal on mso, lol.

ArtOfCode

@quartata there are a bunch of comments I had, but mostly stylistic or operational things, so they can wait

M.A.R.

@JasonC But no rep on meta.SO

Poor shog

Nah go ahead

@JasonC nice :)

9:04 PM

I didn't put in docstrings yet I should do that next

M.A.R.

@JasonC Nah, he was actually handing out Reversals

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: Positioning content at the top of a beamer slide (by default) by Jackson Loper on tex.SE

Jason C

He got the smackdown on that +1/-1 post, lol

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tpu- by MAR

M.A.R.

@JasonC Which?

Oh wait, I thought you mean a post with a score of 0

Jason C

9:05 PM

-210

Q: Should we discourage leading +/-1 on comments?

Update: The test is over; results and the final form of this restriction detailed here: Remove the limitation that stops comments from starting with +1 or -1 I'm getting really sick of finding folks arguing about votes, only to see that the bickering started with a comment of the form, -1,...

M.A.R.

Misread

@JasonC Why didn't it onebox? Because it was a question link to an answer?

Glorfindel

@JasonC ~~no oneboxes, please~~ wait, wrong room.

Jason C

Yeah I dunno what happened there let's not think about it.

M.A.R.

@Glorfindel He's usually not that polite when kicking the perpetrating oneboxer

Glorfindel

@JasonC wrong link, it was /questions/ + the ID of the answer.

M.A.R.

9:06 PM

I wonder if it's politically correct to refer to a flower as "it"

Glorfindel

@M.A.R. at least, it's grammatically correct.

and IT has no power here ...

M.A.R.

@Glorfindel But it's a talking flower

Or rather, chatting flower

Also VTC'ing

Glorfindel

@M.A.R. but it's a talking flower — I rest my case.

M.A.R.

Hyphen instead of emdash. -1

Glorfindel

@M.A.R. forgot the shortcut, and — doesn't work here.

M.A.R.

9:09 PM

Yeah, why doesn't it work though? It would've been awesome

Potential for abuse?

NobodyNada

@quartata That's SOBotics, not SOCVR

quartata

Oh yes right

M.A.R.

Well, they do occasionally onebox comments and chat messages on SOCVR too

NobodyNada

@JasonC I wouldn't say "worked up," just that we inform people (kindly) when they break our rules :)

Glorfindel

@M.A.R. IDK, but it does seem to be by design.

NobodyNada

9:13 PM

We have a lot of complicated rules, and no one gets the right the first time

@M.A.R. yeah, comments and chat messages are usually OK -- they don't like intrusive oneboxes

M.A.R.

@NobodyNada That sounds familiar

NobodyNada

@M.A.R. huh?

M.A.R.

@NobodyNada SE is just like SOCVR in that regard

@NobodyNada Here's an intrusive onebox

I wonder if it can even be larger than that

NobodyNada

@M.A.R. I missed it :(

M.A.R.

@NobodyNada amazon.com/English-Research-Usage-Style-Grammar-ebook/dp/… la la la

NobodyNada

9:17 PM

....whoa

M.A.R.

@Glorfindel Should I ask? I feel like asking stuff today on meta.SE

BTW, dunno if y'all have seen Animuson's answer to this. It's freaking awesome.

Glorfindel

@M.A.R. yeah, I'm interested as well.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Python: check regex expression by Lambda on stackoverflow.com

M.A.R.

Seems N or F

@Glorfindel Posted.

Jason C

9:32 PM

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Q: SEDE [Post Link] magic column not compatible with one-boxing for answers

I am filing this as a bug report but I am not sure if the "bug" is on the SEDE side or the chat side (or if this should be a chat feature request). Issue: SEDE links to answers (or anything that isn't a question for that matter) in the [Post Link] column are not compatible with chat one-boxing. ...

bug chat data-explorer onebox

Henders

!!/alive

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@Henders Kinda sorta

M.A.R.

@Henders Not every hour of the day is full of spam

Henders

@M.A.R. Sorry :P Just trying my userscript

SmokeDetector

9:49 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Why do flies try to get in my eyes all the time? by Dennis Ende on outdoors.SE

tpu- by MAR

M.A.R.

gnat

3.1k 12 91 198

discussion feature-request support review status-completed flags vote-to-close

I don't have much problem with gnats

SmokeDetector

10:11 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: C# Copy and Filter DATAGRIDVIEW Then Paste and Sort in another DATAGRIDVIEW by Mohamed Wagih on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, blacklisted user: How to deal with little flies flying into the eyes? by Dennis Ende on outdoors.SE

Jason C

@SmokeDetector that is epic

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tpu- by Jason C

doppelgreener

> I am now into my fifth day without taking my prostate medicine….and my problem with the eye flies has diminished to near 0%.

uhhhhhhhh

Jan Dvorak

Yeech!

Jason C

What I want to know is if that was automated and somehow picked keywords to substitute in, or if somebody manually customized it for that question

doppelgreener

10:14 PM

> I noticed late that first day that my nose quit running like it had for several months before. I also noticed late my tear ducts were not over producing matter like they had prior to that day. And, low and behold I wasn’t being pestered with the Eye Flies like I had been in prior days, weeks and months. It occurred to me that I should make a mental note of this fact for future reference.

this sounds like a horror story

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: i want to make an app with a membership but i cant find any source code to go off of im super new to coding by user3432221 on stackoverflow.com

fp- by ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

@Henders Your flags/day should kick upwards tomorrow - welcome to core

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naa- by DraconicPenguin

quartata

10:50 PM

@ArtOfCode So.. about those comments?

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes you haven't just got the core role :P

@QPaysTaxes I just put the core permission on Henders' account

quartata

Wait, is that what "core" on MS does?

ArtOfCode

@quartata yep

quartata

It's what's used to fill the first two autoflag slots

ArtOfCode

ceil(max_flags / 2) flags are reserved for people with the core role

@quartata #1: Python should be 4 spaces, technically, even if it is accepting 2

#2: There must be a better way than that end-of-file import

#3: we should look at getting a linter on this

quartata

10:52 PM

@ArtOfCode I know. I spent hours trying to figure it out

@ArtOfCode I was going to set up code climate

@ArtOfCode nnnhh

I love my two spaces

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes it's just a role, aka a permission

quartata

But fine

Anyways regarding the end-of-file import

@QPaysTaxes I follow QUARTATA8

ArtOfCode

@quartata likewise, but we should follow PEP8 except for where it makes no sense like 80-char lines

Our current setup uses PEP8 with 120-char lines

quartata

The problem is that if you put it up top commands tries to require status

Which in turn needs chat.handle_err and what not

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes for some people it does, but it's generally too restrictive in these days of bigger monitors

quartata

10:54 PM

Which haven't been defined yet

Maybe the handlers could go somewhere else?

The problem is I want to keep what daemon imports to a minimum, since Windows isn't smart enough to copy as needed with fork

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes cmake 3.6 required, but the version in Ubuntu repos is 2.8.12.2

shrug

WSL

that sounds like a bunch of effort for a thing

let's see if any of my real linux boxes have it

...nope

make errors

Scanning dependencies of target concaten
[  1%] Building C object CMakeFiles/concaten.dir/main.c.o
/mnt/c/Users/owen/Documents/Uni/concaten/main.c: In function ‘main’:
/mnt/c/Users/owen/Documents/Uni/concaten/main.c:4:5: error: C++ style comments are not allowed in ISO C90 [-Werror]
     // This is not going to be filled out until v0.7 -- for the code that's
     ^
/mnt/c/Users/owen/Documents/Uni/concaten/main.c:4:5: error: (this will be reported only once per input file) [-Werror]
/mnt/c/Users/owen/Documents/Uni/concaten/main.c:44:1: error: control reaches end of non-void function [-Werror…

no errors, what should I be looking for to confirm it worked

yep

I assume that running ./concaten is meant to output hello world

quartata

11:22 PM

OK this will teach me not to format code with regex

ArtOfCode

...when was that ever a good idea :P

quartata

Stock Vim doesn't know how to change existing indentation, nor should it

ArtOfCode

> decent IDE

Vim is a good text editor, but it's not an IDE by any measure

quartata

Eh.

Oh well.

I have quite a few plugins, but never the right ones.

ArtOfCode

11:37 PM

@QPaysTaxes You've got a lot of milestones in your readme... what kinda timeframe are you thinking they'll take?

bwDraco

@ArtOfCode Agreed. It's great for everyday config file editing, etc. but it's not really designed for serious coding, at least not in its default configuration.

ArtOfCode

@QPaysTaxes also, can I suggest using semantic versioning, to make it easier for users of Concaten to tell what versions their programs are compatible with?

@QPaysTaxes oh, sure, but version 0 is intended for that

quartata

Any preferences on things PEP8 should ignore?

Already did that. Set it to 120.

ArtOfCode

You're kind of doing semantic versioning there, but without the full scope. semver.org is worth reading.

aye, I just found out

@QPaysTaxes Aye, except you don't have a patch decimal

quartata

OK I set up code climate

ArtOfCode

11:42 PM