The Nineteenth Byte

cool

muddyfish

@Riker done! 7 bytes again now

beating Jelly by nearly half!

:D

muddyfish

ok, a third

3:13 PM

not bad

and lol you got lucky on the is_prime builtin

Ductr Tape

3:29 PM

@MatthewRoh I had a similar idea of making a stack based graphical golfing language like two weeks ago! Based on the Google logo challenge.

3:42 PM

@flawr I saw this and legitimately wondered for a moment if you had asked "where had a plane crashed fartherst from it's original destination"

Huh, I can run format from the Windows command prompt but not from git bash

that's because format isn't a bash command ;p

But making format an internal cmd utility is stupid

@Microsoft pls

question for mods: when superpinging, do you use the chat profile id or the main site id (with the main site being the chatroom's parent)

Superpinging?

3:51 PM

mods can @ping any user

with @@useridhere

(note the double at)

A mod-only ping which ping even if the user was not in the chatroom in the last week

even if they've never been in there

@Riker It would make sense for it to be the chat id

but I don't know which userid they use, I'd assume the chat id tho

yeah

mainly because I don't think they can only ping people with an accoutn on a certain site

@@175356

3:52 PM

> mod-only

Just wanted to test it for myself

kritixi is blue, can't you see?

:P

Q: write a code for below in any language

definitely blue

nuke request:

-3

You have a log file as attached in sample input with various operations and time taken by each of them. Write a script to find the min and max time taken for each operation. Sample output is attached. Sample Input operation1,83621 operation2,72321 operation3,13288 operation2,12312 operation...

functional-programming

thanks kritixi and tux

I nuked it with my blue mod powers :P

3:58 PM

@Riker status-completed

yes

such nuke

much wow

@TuxCopter *completed

aw it's not red

Q: write a code for below in any language

yes :(

doesn't work in chat

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You have a log file as attached in sample input with various operations and time taken by each of them. Write a script to find the min and max time taken for each operation. Sample output is attached. Sample Input operation1,83621 operation2,72321 operation3,13288 operation2,12312 operation...

functional-programming

Anyone know a compiler running on Win32 that can produce DOS/Win16 executables?

4:13 PM

I just saw this submission in the xultraprime challenge use this interesting lang they created.

:o

@TuxCopter Open Watcom seems to work

@KritixiLithos :O

4:40 PM

I am trying to figure out how to run a röda program right now

@KritixiLithos I asked Dennis to add it to TIO

Hopefully that will happen soon

why is compiling a DOS program on Windows so confusing

@TuxCopter Because DOS != Windows

Have you tried compiling a DOS program on DOS?

@Pavel Yes, but programming in edit is a pure nightmare

And a COM executable is literally a raw file with an offset, why is it so hard to compile one on a modern Windows machine

5:13 PM

@KritixiLithos Figured it out

@KritixiLithos Now start doing code-golf with it

5:29 PM

Apparently the Finnish docs are more detailed than the English...

Hi @fergusq

@KritixiLithos I have translated some of the documents here: kaivos.org/~iikka/röda

Thanks. I was looking through your answer and saw a _ at the end of the function. What does it do? Removing it causes an error

Its syntax sugar for x for x ie. it evaluates the function for each value in the input stream.

Ah that makes sense

Someone here knows how to run an executable with the MS-DOS 6 API?

5:40 PM

How does röda accept command line arguments?

from docs:

> if [ age = 0 ]

thats just wrong

@TuxCopter AH=4Bh. I should learn to read.

@KritixiLithos They are given as arguments to the main function: main a, b { print("I got ", a, " and ", b) }

@fergusq No markdown in multiline messages ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

:(

5:45 PM

Where can I find a full documentation for the MS-DOS API?

@TuxCopter Why do you need to build MS-DOS executables, anyway?

For fun

@fergusq Why not an array? If it's an array, you can give it arbitrary amounts of arguments.

^

@Pavel That's also possible: main args... { }

Often it is just not necessary to have multiple arguments, so I don't have to extract them from an array if I don't want.

5:52 PM

@TuxCopter Oh and I should learn to read Wikipedia's "References" section too

Huh, DOS has an 'allocate memory' API call

@TuxCopter wait not everybody does? holy shit

the references are the best part

@fergusq That's actually really cool. More languages should do that.

Why would a real-mode OS have an allocate/free memory API call

to zero all needed memory blocks maybe?

5

clouds' shadows, as seen from ISS

@betseg Because interrupts are slow and the OS is monotask it would be nearly faster to clear memory directly from the program

6:22 PM

@Riker amazing thread thanks for sharing!

lol

np

@Riker did you read this? hilarous & terrifying

(from that thread)

not yet will do

@betseg not a corrupted jpg? :D

lol

6:30 PM

I bet this is fake, they never landed on the ISS.

lel

if the earth isnt flat how are shadows flat?

o.0

Luke

Your premise is wrong; the earth is flat

I'm starting to get the impression that the only purpose of that room is to annoy blue blobs, and break chat. — Zizouz212 Dec 23 '15 at 21:06

6:33 PM

No, actually the earth is a parabola. It's well known.

guys tnb actually has a purpose

:O

@Riker What are the blue blobs being mentioned?

mods

I don't think were disrupting a discussion=)

6:33 PM

bluenames

Doorknob

Surely it's a reference to his profile picture.

Luke

There is some useful discussion every once in a while

The shape of the earth, for example

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@TuxCopter I bet it is a donut.

btw earth isnt a sphere

its an elipsoid

6:35 PM

no i'ts a torus

theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54383.0

I thought it was vaugly egg-shaped?

Something like that?

torus shaped

/me totally hasn't stalked your reddit and seen that before

You guys should just pm each other on Reddit >_>

nah I don't have an account right now

irl friend is being a jerk and commetning on every post I make, doxxing me

6:38 PM

@Riker go get a new one=)

you don't even need to register an e-mail

@Riker Fortunatly creating a reddit account is the easiest thing in the world.

I've tried but my interests are too specific ;-;

no irl friends use reddit, which is nice

congrats

@betseg they just don't tell you...

6:39 PM

I have to just avoid r/tf2 and r/nethack then

@flawr none of them can speak english

What are you guys even talking about? The Earth does not exist. It simply is a conspiracy made by an ominous organisation to fill the humans with wrong facts and information so that our minds can be easily controlled later in the future

that's what They want you to think

@KritixiLithos you dont even exist shut up

@KritixiLithos but in fact They exist to make you think that They don't want you to think They exist

6:40 PM

this is getting too meta

Wait, so the governement wants you to think the earth is a conspiracy by the governement?

capitalizing "they"?

They are all knowing and deserve respect

@Riker gasp

timecube.2enp.com

6:41 PM

Yeah, we know everything and deserve respect.

And nothing more needs to be said.

@TuxCopter no they want you to that exactly that, i.e. they want you to think that the they want you to think that

@betseg How do you know that? Suspicious...

But maybe they want you to think that the they want you to think that they want you to think that the they want you to think that

@flawr o-o i have been blessed by the presence of an all-knowing one

tell me do the other ones of They also like plane crashes

6:41 PM

@KritixiLithos so you actually dont exist? i knew it

@Pavel There's even an essay on the subject

TNB is getting way too meta

@Riker a plane crashes whenever They get bored

ah

so you get bored a lot

@TuxCopter tnb is becoming its true self

5

I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym

2

6:43 PM

@Riker not much to do if you already know everything XD

woah I has starz

except hanging out in tnb

@flawr i mean you could always try to beat flappy bird

(and crashing planes)

or the hardest game in the world

6:43 PM

@Riker yeah, as soon as I finished qwop

@Riker Run before They find you can send you on a crashing plane!

@Riker i dont think it ends

@flawr it does ends tho

@betseg but int overflows

@betseg Hacks, my friend

oi somebody unstarred me -.-

6:44 PM

@betseg chuck norris ended it without flapping once

@Riker Unless it has infinite precision integers.

Then it runs out of memory and dies.

They are Chuck Norris

ok who's starring all my messages pls don't

beacuse taht's going to lead to me getting my stars cleared

lul

no seriously

6:45 PM

@mawds plz unstar

@DJMcMayhem @Mego @Dennis pls clear stars

@Doorknob ^

@Riker It is They, They found where you live, run young cat, there is no time!

@betseg no

or at least not all of them

leave the 1 with 4 stars

ok seriously this isn't funny stop this whoever is doing this

@Riker I agree but can't star.

yeah

6:46 PM

@ElEndiaStarman help plox

;-;

thanks whoever is doing that

you can probably leave the last 2, those were legit stars

thanks

TY

How do stars exist inside Earth?

hello

Wait, don't mod actions push you to the top of the list of people in the room rn?

6:48 PM

12 mins ago, by flawr

torus shaped

@flawr how big are stars tho?

@cookie hey

@Pavel nope or they did it from the transcript

@betseg looks like about 20 px to me

i'm making a programming language

not a golfing one tho

ok?

tho = slang for though?

6:50 PM

yes

Halp
How to append to an array in Ruby

gistpages.com/posts/…

can mods see who up/downvoted which answers/questions?

no

nobody can except maybe admins

@Riker how do you know :P

6:56 PM

because it's said on meta.se many times

@cookie Thanks

by admins

@Pavel no problem

@Riker Probably black holes judging from the fact that light can't pass through them

*mini-black holes

gah, it sucked my eraser

O-o

6:59 PM

I could star it to turn it back into a star, but then it would burn my eraser instead

yay

i fixed a bug

recursion ftw

o/ @DJMcMayhem

TIL ctrl+alt+del in GNOME opens the shutdown menu

Albert Renshaw

What are some overly-verbose languages like ArnoldC?

@Pavel I'm not sure which ones, but I don't see any star spam so I'll assume it's gone haha

7:11 PM

@DJMcMayhem It is

@AlbertRenshaw SPL

Shakespear language

yay!

my programming language is a little useful

@Riker o/

I actually totally missed that message earlier, haha

Was I in here? I don't think I was

Albert Renshaw

Thanks Pavel!

@DJMcMayhem you were

7:32 PM

@DJMcMayhem you were :p

If you opened your browser for any reason maybe it reloaded the tab?

Oh, that was probably it

I was bragging about Android seven's split screen to a friend, and I demonstrated with chrome

I think I can download Android 7 on my emulator from Android Studio

But I'm too lazy to do it now, starting Android Studio takes 5-10 minutes :/

java

@DJMcMayhem tfw it existed in most third party oems

@betseg It used to be fast

@betseg I don't know what you guys are talking about out, but I would briefly like to point out that Java is awesome.

7:42 PM

@betseg TFW I'm lazy and usually use stock

> starting [...] takes 5-10 minutes

@DJMcMayhem how pls tell

@Riker hold recents button

@betseg It's IntelliJ Idea and not Java

@KritixiLithos what does J stand for

7:48 PM

{insert tha_tha here}

@betseg Java, but the fault isn't intrinsically Java's

8:04 PM

@Riker ^

user165474

8:17 PM

Wait, how are you viewing chat from within the SE app? It always takes me to the website on mobile.

Windows Phone Master Race

user165474

Oh okay. I'm using Android 6

user165474

I think.

Christopher Peart

Anyone want to give me their soul to sell? I want a Nintendo switch but have no job (and can't get one for a few months) and have like no money

@CheckOutTomato your local git config is different from your GitHub's you should do git config --global user.email "email used w/ github" to fix

8:25 PM

by the way, can anyone help me with something to test my app? (you only need GH account)

That's nice (^^)

@Downgoat I can

@betseg can you fork this repository?

Done

What now? :p

ok, is your github betseg?

8:28 PM

Yes

aaaand it is broken, thanks >_>

can you keep that repo there for a sec while I try to fix

Christopher Peart

that was fast

@Downgoat ...said every developer ever, always with the vague hope it would work on the first try.

:( why do app development got to be so hard

Because then it wouldn't be fun.

8:33 PM

> iOS Application Developer Salary in 2016 – $105K

I change my mind iOS app development is great

Lol

8:45 PM

@HyperNeutrino I'm not using the mobile app. I'm using chrome. I'm on Android 7

9:03 PM

> for a sec

hey this is hard

I have to reroute the segue to go through a container view, so now I have to do another request to GH which will require me to do lots more things

quartata

@Downgoat Assuming this is the Bay Area that's actually not that great. Cost of living sucks.

LegionMammal978

Anyone know of an HTTP POST echo server I can use for testing?

@quartata true, I think it's like one of most expensive places to live in US >_>

quartata

Don't you live there? I'd think you'd know :P

Anyways I read a horror story recently about how hard it is to even get an apartment there

Definitely not a place I want to be

LegionMammal978

9:10 PM

You know, cost of living makes salary comparison annoying

pigz is amazing

@quartata even if you get one they are like $50K/year for a 1 bedroom

> dk0.us:8082

ugh, I just realized pluralization is a thing

ooh, a console web browser that respects CSS.

9:17 PM

yeah elinks is pretty nice

@CheckOutTomato what happens when you use a program that shows images?

@betseg in the terminal?

I'm not aware of such programs

There are a few, some browsers too

at least on linux. I know there's imgcat with iTerm

my terminal support image. (yeah i think it uses imgcat)

9:18 PM

@Downgoat even ttys can show images

w3m can show images iirc

@betseg only ttys can show images

it's called a framebuffer

Some terminal emulators too

Q: Solve Math Problem Notation

@DJMcMayhem 10/10

New Main Posts

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Imagine I have an infinite number of homework problems (!) each given an integer number. Math Problem Notation is a notation for describing subsets of the problem using problem specifiers. An MPN expression can consist of several things: A single value. This represents a set containing the nu...

code-golf decision-problem parsing set-theory

lel I love how you have TNB, one awkward text msg convo, and then imgur

9:21 PM

> imgur

WHY

what

imgur is glorious

...

???

It's an image hosting service originally created for reddit users

yes

which developed into it's own platform

with it's own culture

9:23 PM

...but is mostly used to host images for Reddit.

@Pavel honestly not really

half the things that hit the FP there don't match it to r/pics

or any of the more specific subreddits

@CheckOutTomato it's mostly joking on both places

Yeah, and a lot of images on reddit's front page don't make it to Imgur's.

But are hosted on imgur.

ye

they just are different

neither is a shitty clone of the other

yeah, reddit is a heap of links with voting arrows, imgur is a heap of images with voting arrows.

and SE is a wall of text with voting arrows

9:30 PM

It's a heap of Q/A pairs with voting arrows

Youtube is a heap of videos with voting arrows...

voting thumbs, actually

lel

but hey art, jan

Imgur doesn't have a recommendation system, though

?

does reddit?

vOv. Reddit does have categories, though

9:32 PM

yeh

Imgur has tags

imgur is like r/all but imgs only and more dumps of many imgs

@JanDvorak well if you go to /r/pics then it is a heap of images with voting arrows

9:46 PM

watch me destroy a linux system dk0.us:8082

@CheckOutTomato sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root --permission-to-kill-kittens-explicitly-granted

> --permission-to-kill-kittens-explicitly-granted

is this real?

yes

rm: unrecognized option '--permission-to-kill-kittens-explicitly-granted'

aww

...and he actually believed me :D

9:53 PM

hey it doesnt hurt to test

unless it actually deletes your computer and kills all the kittens... :P

What if I want to kill all the kittens?

that would be --kill-all-kittens-yes-i-am-a-psychopath

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

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Code a Simple Plagiarism Checker Your challenge: code a plagiarism checker that uses a search engine to see if its results match any of the text. The program accepts a string to test, and also an integers which represents the minimum amount of words that it needs to match for it to consider it p...

10:06 PM

@JanDvorak ;-;

Q: Shortest code to create to create an elf file with longest .text section

10:26 PM

@Pavel array << 1

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Your challenge is to create the shortest code in your language of choice or the tools of your choice (like objcopy) that will create an elf with a .text section as large as possible. Requirements The target architecture should be Pnacl or armelv7 or x86_64. The program should take no numbers a...

code-challenge

user2284570

What is unclear here ?

-3

Q: Shortest code to generate an elf file with longest .text section

Your challenge is to create the shortest code in your language of choice or the tools of your choice (like objcopy) that will create an elf with a .text section as large as possible. Requirements The target architecture should be Pnacl or armelv7 or x86_64. The program should take no numbers a...

code-golf code-challenge

ATaco

@user2284570 I think it's less it's unclear more it isn't a very well written challenge. You should probably consider using the sandbox, where you can get feedback and free room to modify your question before posting it.

10:42 PM

@user2284570 It would probably be a good idea to use the Sandbox. Other than that you should probably familiarize yourself with the way this site and it's challenges work by first participating in a bunch of them.

@user2284570 I understand it's basically "output 4gb of stuff in a special format"

but beyond that I have no clue

challenges shoul dbe pretty much self-contained, so can you explain what an elf is in the challenge?