The Nineteenth Byte

Riker

15:09

@muddyfish do you need J at the end of the program to output a list? The challenge was edited to remove the joined by spaces restriction, and you might be able to golf a byte off

muddyfish

@Riker I'm removing it now

Riker

cool

muddyfish

@Riker done! 7 bytes again now

beating Jelly by nearly half!

Riker

:D

muddyfish

ok, a third

Riker

15:13

not bad

and lol you got lucky on the is_prime builtin

Ductr Tape

15:29

@MatthewRoh I had a similar idea of making a stack based graphical golfing language like two weeks ago! Based on the Google logo challenge.

Riker

15:42

@flawr I saw this and legitimately wondered for a moment if you had asked "where had a plane crashed fartherst from it's original destination"

TuxCopter

Huh, I can run format from the Windows command prompt but not from git bash

Riker

that's because format isn't a bash command ;p

TuxCopter

But making format an internal cmd utility is stupid

@Microsoft pls

Riker

question for mods: when superpinging, do you use the chat profile id or the main site id (with the main site being the chatroom's parent)

Kritixi Lithos

Superpinging?

Riker

15:51

mods can @ping any user

with @@useridhere

(note the double at)

TuxCopter

A mod-only ping which ping even if the user was not in the chatroom in the last week

Riker

even if they've never been in there

TuxCopter

@Riker It would make sense for it to be the chat id

Riker

but I don't know which userid they use, I'd assume the chat id tho

yeah

mainly because I don't think they can only ping people with an accoutn on a certain site

Kritixi Lithos

@@175356

TuxCopter

15:52

> mod-only

Kritixi Lithos

Just wanted to test it for myself

Riker

kritixi is blue, can't you see?

Kritixi Lithos

:P

Riker

definitely blue

nuke request:

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Q: write a code for below in any language

You have a log file as attached in sample input with various operations and time taken by each of them. Write a script to find the min and max time taken for each operation. Sample output is attached. Sample Input operation1,83621 operation2,72321 operation3,13288 operation2,12312 operation...

functional-programming

thanks kritixi and tux

Kritixi Lithos

I nuked it with my blue mod powers :P

TuxCopter

15:58

@Riker status-completed

Riker

yes

such nuke

much wow

@TuxCopter *completed

TuxCopter

aw it's not red

Riker

yes :(

doesn't work in chat

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Q: write a code for below in any language

You have a log file as attached in sample input with various operations and time taken by each of them. Write a script to find the min and max time taken for each operation. Sample output is attached. Sample Input operation1,83621 operation2,72321 operation3,13288 operation2,12312 operation...

functional-programming

TuxCopter

Anyone know a compiler running on Win32 that can produce DOS/Win16 executables?

Kritixi Lithos

16:13

I just saw this submission in the xultraprime challenge use this interesting lang they created.

Riker

:o

TuxCopter

@TuxCopter Open Watcom seems to work

@KritixiLithos :O

Kritixi Lithos

16:40

I am trying to figure out how to run a röda program right now

Pavel

@KritixiLithos I asked Dennis to add it to TIO

Hopefully that will happen soon

TuxCopter

why is compiling a DOS program on Windows so confusing

Pavel

@TuxCopter Because DOS != Windows

Have you tried compiling a DOS program on DOS?

TuxCopter

@Pavel Yes, but programming in edit is a pure nightmare

And a COM executable is literally a raw file with an offset, why is it so hard to compile one on a modern Windows machine

Kritixi Lithos

17:13

@KritixiLithos Figured it out

Pavel

@KritixiLithos Now start doing code-golf with it

Kritixi Lithos

17:29

Apparently the Finnish docs are more detailed than the English...

Hi @fergusq

fergusq

@KritixiLithos I have translated some of the documents here: kaivos.org/~iikka/röda

Kritixi Lithos

Thanks. I was looking through your answer and saw a _ at the end of the function. What does it do? Removing it causes an error

fergusq

Its syntax sugar for x for x ie. it evaluates the function for each value in the input stream.

Kritixi Lithos

Ah that makes sense

TuxCopter

Someone here knows how to run an executable with the MS-DOS 6 API?

Kritixi Lithos

17:40

How does röda accept command line arguments?

betseg

from docs:

> if [ age = 0 ]

thats just wrong

TuxCopter

@TuxCopter AH=4Bh. I should learn to read.

fergusq

@KritixiLithos They are given as arguments to the main function: main a, b { print("I got ", a, " and ", b) }

TuxCopter

@fergusq No markdown in multiline messages ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

fergusq

:(

TuxCopter

17:45

Where can I find a full documentation for the MS-DOS API?

Pavel

@TuxCopter Why do you need to build MS-DOS executables, anyway?

TuxCopter

For fun

Pavel

@fergusq Why not an array? If it's an array, you can give it arbitrary amounts of arguments.

TuxCopter

^

fergusq

@Pavel That's also possible: main args... { }

Often it is just not necessary to have multiple arguments, so I don't have to extract them from an array if I don't want.

TuxCopter

17:52

@TuxCopter Oh and I should learn to read Wikipedia's "References" section too

Huh, DOS has an 'allocate memory' API call

Riker

@TuxCopter wait not everybody does? holy shit

the references are the best part

Pavel

@fergusq That's actually really cool. More languages should do that.

TuxCopter

Why would a real-mode OS have an allocate/free memory API call

betseg

to zero all needed memory blocks maybe?

5

clouds' shadows, as seen from ISS

TuxCopter

@betseg Because interrupts are slow and the OS is monotask it would be nearly faster to clear memory directly from the program

flawr

18:22

@Riker amazing thread thanks for sharing!

Riker

lol

np

flawr

@Riker did you read this? hilarous & terrifying

(from that thread)

Riker

not yet will do

flawr

@betseg not a corrupted jpg? :D

betseg

lol

flawr

18:30

I bet this is fake, they never landed on the ISS.

Riker

lel

betseg

if the earth isnt flat how are shadows flat?

Pavel

o.0

Luke

Your premise is wrong; the earth is flat

Riker

I'm starting to get the impression that the only purpose of that room is to annoy blue blobs, and break chat. — Zizouz212 Dec 23 '15 at 21:06

TuxCopter

18:33

No, actually the earth is a parabola. It's well known.

Riker

guys tnb actually has a purpose

betseg

:O

Pavel

@Riker What are the blue blobs being mentioned?

Riker

mods

flawr

I don't think were disrupting a discussion=)

Riker

18:33

bluenames

Doorknob

Surely it's a reference to his profile picture.

Luke

There is some useful discussion every once in a while

The shape of the earth, for example

Pavel

MDK & Neowing - Boss Rush [Free Download]

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flawr

@TuxCopter I bet it is a donut.

betseg

btw earth isnt a sphere

its an elipsoid

Riker

18:35

no i'ts a torus

theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54383.0

Pavel

I thought it was vaugly egg-shaped?

Something like that?

flawr

torus shaped

Riker

/me totally hasn't stalked your reddit and seen that before

Pavel

You guys should just pm each other on Reddit >_>

Riker

nah I don't have an account right now

irl friend is being a jerk and commetning on every post I make, doxxing me

flawr

18:38

@Riker go get a new one=)

you don't even need to register an e-mail

Pavel

@Riker Fortunatly creating a reddit account is the easiest thing in the world.

Riker

I've tried but my interests are too specific ;-;

betseg

no irl friends use reddit, which is nice

Riker

congrats

flawr

@betseg they just don't tell you...

Riker

18:39

I have to just avoid r/tf2 and r/nethack then

betseg

@flawr none of them can speak english

Kritixi Lithos

What are you guys even talking about? The Earth does not exist. It simply is a conspiracy made by an ominous organisation to fill the humans with wrong facts and information so that our minds can be easily controlled later in the future

Riker

that's what They want you to think

betseg

@KritixiLithos you dont even exist shut up

Riker

@KritixiLithos but in fact They exist to make you think that They don't want you to think They exist

flawr

18:40

this is getting too meta

TuxCopter

Wait, so the governement wants you to think the earth is a conspiracy by the governement?

betseg

capitalizing "they"?

Riker

They are all knowing and deserve respect

Kritixi Lithos

@Riker gasp

Pavel

timecube.2enp.com

flawr

18:41

Yeah, we know everything and deserve respect.

Pavel

And nothing more needs to be said.

Riker

@TuxCopter no they want you to that exactly that, i.e. they want you to think that the they want you to think that

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg How do you know that? Suspicious...

TuxCopter

But maybe they want you to think that the they want you to think that they want you to think that the they want you to think that

Riker

@flawr o-o i have been blessed by the presence of an all-knowing one

tell me do the other ones of They also like plane crashes

betseg

18:41

@KritixiLithos so you actually dont exist? i knew it

Pavel

@Pavel There's even an essay on the subject

TuxCopter

TNB is getting way too meta

flawr

@Riker a plane crashes whenever They get bored

Riker

ah

so you get bored a lot

@TuxCopter tnb is becoming its true self

5

betseg

I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym

2

flawr

18:43

@Riker not much to do if you already know everything XD

Riker

woah I has starz

flawr

except hanging out in tnb

Riker

@flawr i mean you could always try to beat flappy bird

flawr

(and crashing planes)

Riker

or the hardest game in the world

flawr

18:43

@Riker yeah, as soon as I finished qwop

Kritixi Lithos

@Riker Run before They find you can send you on a crashing plane!

betseg

@Riker i dont think it ends

@flawr it does ends tho

Riker

@betseg but int overflows

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg Hacks, my friend

Riker

oi somebody unstarred me -.-

flawr

18:44

@betseg chuck norris ended it without flapping once

Pavel

@Riker Unless it has infinite precision integers.

Then it runs out of memory and dies.

Kritixi Lithos

They are Chuck Norris

Riker

ok who's starring all my messages pls don't

beacuse taht's going to lead to me getting my stars cleared

betseg

lul

Riker

no seriously

betseg

18:45

@mawds plz unstar

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem @Mego @Dennis pls clear stars

@Doorknob ^

Kritixi Lithos

@Riker It is They, They found where you live, run young cat, there is no time!

Riker

@betseg no

or at least not all of them

leave the 1 with 4 stars

ok seriously this isn't funny stop this whoever is doing this

flawr

@Riker I agree but can't star.

Riker

yeah

Pavel

18:46

@ElEndiaStarman help plox

;-;

Riker

thanks whoever is doing that

you can probably leave the last 2, those were legit stars

thanks

Pavel

TY

Kritixi Lithos

How do stars exist inside Earth?

cookie

hello

Pavel

Wait, don't mod actions push you to the top of the list of people in the room rn?

flawr

18:48

12 mins ago, by flawr

torus shaped

betseg

@flawr how big are stars tho?

Riker

@cookie hey

@Pavel nope or they did it from the transcript

@betseg looks like about 20 px to me

cookie

i'm making a programming language

not a golfing one tho

Riker

ok?

flawr

tho = slang for though?

cookie

18:50

yes

Pavel

Halp
How to append to an array in Ruby

cookie

gistpages.com/posts/…

betseg

can mods see who up/downvoted which answers/questions?

Riker

no

nobody can except maybe admins

betseg

@Riker how do you know :P

Riker

18:56

because it's said on meta.se many times

Pavel

@cookie Thanks

Riker

by admins

cookie

@Pavel no problem

Kritixi Lithos

@Riker Probably black holes judging from the fact that light can't pass through them

*mini-black holes

gah, it sucked my eraser

Riker

O-o

Kritixi Lithos

18:59

I could star it to turn it back into a star, but then it would burn my eraser instead

cookie

yay

i fixed a bug

recursion ftw

Riker

o/ @DJMcMayhem

betseg

TIL ctrl+alt+del in GNOME opens the shutdown menu

Albert Renshaw

What are some overly-verbose languages like ArnoldC?

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel I'm not sure which ones, but I don't see any star spam so I'll assume it's gone haha

Pavel

19:11

@DJMcMayhem It is

@AlbertRenshaw SPL

Shakespear language

cookie

yay!

my programming language is a little useful

DJMcMayhem

@Riker o/

I actually totally missed that message earlier, haha

Was I in here? I don't think I was

Albert Renshaw

Thanks Pavel!

betseg

@DJMcMayhem you were

Riker

19:32

@DJMcMayhem you were :p

If you opened your browser for any reason maybe it reloaded the tab?

DJMcMayhem

Oh, that was probably it

I was bragging about Android seven's split screen to a friend, and I demonstrated with chrome

Kritixi Lithos

I think I can download Android 7 on my emulator from Android Studio

But I'm too lazy to do it now, starting Android Studio takes 5-10 minutes :/

betseg

java

@DJMcMayhem tfw it existed in most third party oems

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg It used to be fast

Pavel

@betseg I don't know what you guys are talking about out, but I would briefly like to point out that Java is awesome.

DJMcMayhem

19:42

@betseg TFW I'm lazy and usually use stock

betseg

> starting [...] takes 5-10 minutes

Riker

@DJMcMayhem how pls tell

betseg

@Riker hold recents button

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg It's IntelliJ Idea and not Java

betseg

@KritixiLithos what does J stand for

Kritixi Lithos

19:48

{insert tha_tha here}

Pavel

@betseg Java, but the fault isn't intrinsically Java's

DJMcMayhem

20:04

@Riker ^

user165474

20:17

Wait, how are you viewing chat from within the SE app? It always takes me to the website on mobile.

Pavel

Windows Phone Master Race

user165474

Oh okay. I'm using Android 6

user165474

I think.

Christopher Peart

Anyone want to give me their soul to sell? I want a Nintendo switch but have no job (and can't get one for a few months) and have like no money

Downgoat

@CheckOutTomato your local git config is different from your GitHub's you should do git config --global user.email "email used w/ github" to fix

betseg

20:25

Downgoat

by the way, can anyone help me with something to test my app? (you only need GH account)

betseg

That's nice (^^)

@Downgoat I can

Downgoat

@betseg can you fork this repository?

betseg

Done

What now? :p

Downgoat

ok, is your github betseg?

betseg

20:28

Yes

Downgoat

aaaand it is broken, thanks >_>

can you keep that repo there for a sec while I try to fix

Christopher Peart

that was fast

Pavel

@Downgoat ...said every developer ever, always with the vague hope it would work on the first try.

Downgoat

:( why do app development got to be so hard

Pavel

Because then it wouldn't be fun.

Downgoat

20:33

> iOS Application Developer Salary in 2016 – $105K

I change my mind iOS app development is great

betseg

Lol

DJMcMayhem

20:45

@HyperNeutrino I'm not using the mobile app. I'm using chrome. I'm on Android 7

betseg

21:03

> for a sec

Downgoat

hey this is hard

I have to reroute the segue to go through a container view, so now I have to do another request to GH which will require me to do lots more things

quartata

@Downgoat Assuming this is the Bay Area that's actually not that great. Cost of living sucks.

LegionMammal978

Anyone know of an HTTP POST echo server I can use for testing?

Downgoat

@quartata true, I think it's like one of most expensive places to live in US >_>

quartata

Don't you live there? I'd think you'd know :P

Anyways I read a horror story recently about how hard it is to even get an apartment there

Definitely not a place I want to be

LegionMammal978

21:10

You know, cost of living makes salary comparison annoying

Check Out Tomato

pigz is amazing

Downgoat

@quartata even if you get one they are like $50K/year for a 1 bedroom

Check Out Tomato

> dk0.us:8082

Downgoat

ugh, I just realized pluralization is a thing

Jan Dvorak

ooh, a console web browser that respects CSS.

Check Out Tomato

21:17

yeah elinks is pretty nice

betseg

@CheckOutTomato what happens when you use a program that shows images?

Check Out Tomato

@betseg in the terminal?

I'm not aware of such programs

betseg

There are a few, some browsers too

Check Out Tomato

at least on linux. I know there's imgcat with iTerm

Downgoat

my terminal support image. (yeah i think it uses imgcat)

betseg

21:18

@Downgoat even ttys can show images

w3m can show images iirc

Check Out Tomato

@betseg only ttys can show images

it's called a framebuffer

betseg

Some terminal emulators too

Riker

@DJMcMayhem 10/10

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Q: Solve Math Problem Notation

Imagine I have an infinite number of homework problems (!) each given an integer number. Math Problem Notation is a notation for describing subsets of the problem using problem specifiers. An MPN expression can consist of several things: A single value. This represents a set containing the nu...

code-golf decision-problem parsing set-theory

Riker

lel I love how you have TNB, one awkward text msg convo, and then imgur

Check Out Tomato

21:21

> imgur

WHY

Riker

what

imgur is glorious

Check Out Tomato

...

Riker

???

Check Out Tomato

It's an image hosting service originally created for reddit users

Riker

yes

which developed into it's own platform

with it's own culture

Pavel

21:23

...but is mostly used to host images for Reddit.

Riker

@Pavel honestly not really

half the things that hit the FP there don't match it to r/pics

or any of the more specific subreddits

@CheckOutTomato it's mostly joking on both places

Pavel

Yeah, and a lot of images on reddit's front page don't make it to Imgur's.

But are hosted on imgur.

Riker

ye

they just are different

neither is a shitty clone of the other

Jan Dvorak

yeah, reddit is a heap of links with voting arrows, imgur is a heap of images with voting arrows.

ArtOfCode

and SE is a wall of text with voting arrows

Jan Dvorak

21:30

It's a heap of Q/A pairs with voting arrows

Youtube is a heap of videos with voting arrows...

ArtOfCode

voting thumbs, actually

Riker

lel

but hey art, jan

Jan Dvorak

Imgur doesn't have a recommendation system, though

Riker

?

does reddit?

Jan Dvorak

vOv. Reddit does have categories, though

Riker

21:32

yeh

Pavel

Imgur has tags

Riker

imgur is like r/all but imgs only and more dumps of many imgs

Check Out Tomato

@JanDvorak well if you go to /r/pics then it is a heap of images with voting arrows

Check Out Tomato

21:46

watch me destroy a linux system dk0.us:8082

ArtOfCode

@CheckOutTomato sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root --permission-to-kill-kittens-explicitly-granted

Check Out Tomato

> --permission-to-kill-kittens-explicitly-granted

is this real?

ArtOfCode

yes

Check Out Tomato

rm: unrecognized option '--permission-to-kill-kittens-explicitly-granted'

aww

ArtOfCode

...and he actually believed me :D

Check Out Tomato

21:53

hey it doesnt hurt to test

Downgoat

unless it actually deletes your computer and kills all the kittens... :P

Jan Dvorak

What if I want to kill all the kittens?

ArtOfCode

that would be --kill-all-kittens-yes-i-am-a-psychopath

Check Out Tomato

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Code a Simple Plagiarism Checker Your challenge: code a plagiarism checker that uses a search engine to see if its results match any of the text. The program accepts a string to test, and also an integers which represents the minimum amount of words that it needs to match for it to consider it p...

Riker

22:06

@JanDvorak ;-;

Check Out Tomato

22:26

@Pavel array << 1

New Main Posts

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Q: Shortest code to create to create an elf file with longest .text section

Your challenge is to create the shortest code in your language of choice or the tools of your choice (like objcopy) that will create an elf with a .text section as large as possible. Requirements The target architecture should be Pnacl or armelv7 or x86_64. The program should take no numbers a...

code-challenge

user2284570

What is unclear here ?

-3

Q: Shortest code to generate an elf file with longest .text section

Your challenge is to create the shortest code in your language of choice or the tools of your choice (like objcopy) that will create an elf with a .text section as large as possible. Requirements The target architecture should be Pnacl or armelv7 or x86_64. The program should take no numbers a...

code-golf code-challenge

ATaco

@user2284570 I think it's less it's unclear more it isn't a very well written challenge. You should probably consider using the sandbox, where you can get feedback and free room to modify your question before posting it.

flawr

22:42

@user2284570 It would probably be a good idea to use the Sandbox. Other than that you should probably familiarize yourself with the way this site and it's challenges work by first participating in a bunch of them.

Riker

@user2284570 I understand it's basically "output 4gb of stuff in a special format"

but beyond that I have no clue

challenges shoul dbe pretty much self-contained, so can you explain what an elf is in the challenge?

flawr

elf (german) = 11 = eleven O_o

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