Charcoal HQ

SmokeDetector

1:00 PM

tpu- by Glorfindel

Glorfindel

!!/blacklist-website closetshelves\.net

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Blacklisted closetshelves\.net

CI on 3695cdf succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

tripleee

@SmokeDetector I see the autoflag icon on that but it doesn't reveal whose autoflag when hovering ... but an improvement nevertheless; grey with autoflag icon now

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 3695cdf (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of closetshelves\.net by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 4005.

J F

@tripleee The icon should have a tooltip.

tripleee

1:02 PM

I agree that it should, but it doesn't seem to

Glorfindel

@JF the ones loaded via the websocket don't, the others do.

J F

@Glorfindel I’m working on it. I think I’ve identified the problem.

Glorfindel

@JF great. I'm not doing any developments until, say, 7pm UTC.

And you've probably solved all bugs by then :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: skin and ensure it remains as such. by jerryphens on apple.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

J F

Problem is that the selector isn’t matching anything — the message isn’t yet loaded.

Glorfindel

1:16 PM

@JF ah, of course. MS is sometimes faster than chat, sometimes not.

If no match is found for a flagging log, we need to store it in a separate queue, and revive the new-Smokey-message handler at the bottom of the script.

That should check whether there are items in the queue for the report.

J F

[status-working-on-it]

SmokeDetector

1:41 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: With regards to deciding on the first-rate protein powder Alpha Monster Advanced? by AnnetteLoddey on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

tpu- by J F

SmokeDetector

1:56 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: The cabability to increase by user224165 on apple.stackexchange.com

tpu- by J F

J F

@Glorfindel Flag icons not appearing fixed.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 1 out of 2): bitcoins-to-cash by donald trump on bitcoin.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer (batch report: post 2 out of 2): bitcoins-to-cash by Charlie Morley on bitcoin.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel on bitcoins-to-cash [MS]

tpu- by Glorfindel

Glorfindel

!!/blacklist-website bitcoins-to-cash\.com

SmokeDetector

@Glorfindel Blacklisted bitcoins-to-cash\.com

Anonymous

sd 3- 2k

Glorfindel

2:03 PM

@JF great, thanks.

SmokeDetector

CI on 7c9d59d succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

Anonymous

Fading out the deleted stuff is a fantastic change. It makes it much easier to tell what does and doesn't need more feedback/flags.

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 3543.

Glorfindel

@Mego yes, thanks. We're waiting on an API change in MetaSmoke (requested this morning) to make it work for older messages as well.

That would mean that upon loading Charcoal HQ, you can immediately see which posts still need attention.

DavidPostill

@SmokeDetector Can we flag this user name as abusive? ;p

Anonymous

2:06 PM

@Glorfindel That would be really helpful

J F

PSA: coal has an update to notify for batch report posts.

tripleee

@DavidPostill 12/14 TP in Metasmoke's archive but we can speculate that the projection is kind of on the low side

the other two are NAA too

maybe go for it actually

J F

It would probably be best to match the usernames of major politicians — they’re unlikely to join SE, and if they do, we can !!/addwlu them.

Anonymous

If the username joel24601 had similar statistics, would a blacklist for it have been proposed?

Anonymous

We should not let our personal biases dictate how we use the tools.

tripleee

2:18 PM

@Mego what's the likelyhood that somebody would select that name on a whim?

if there's a meme (doggo, chuck norris, whatever) then it's probably got a roughly similar profile

it's got nothing to do with Trump's politics directly

Anonymous

@tripleee Citation needed

Anonymous

I don't disagree with you, but if you're going to make claims, you need to back them up

tripleee

playing with data.stackexchange.com/meta.math/query/553793/… but it's broken

gotta go actually, commuter bus arriving at the platform, sry

Anonymous

It's not broken - it does exactly what it's supposed to do: return the top 100 results for count(DisplayName), ordered by count(DisplayName). The documentation is incorrect.

Anonymous

I've fixed it to do what you wanted it to do

Anonymous

2:26 PM

And I don't see any evidence to support your claim

J F

Anybody know Travis CI? I’m trying to figure out how to have it build & upload binaries to GitHub when I tag a new version.

ArtOfCode

@JF I know it, but not that well

SmokeDetector

2:57 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: i want to setup a score count in python 3.3.2 by Benjamin Fowler on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

ArtOfCode

!!/test healthytipweb.com

SmokeDetector

> Pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 1-17: healthytipweb.co
Body - Position 1-17: healthytipweb.co

Undo

IPv6 allows me to log in to my RPi remotely. That's absolutely awesome.

also, should probably have key auth on that

ArtOfCode

@Undo ...this wasn't possible with v4?

Undo

@ArtOfCode for some reason I couldn't get it to forward connections correctly through both modem and router.

v6 allows me an IP for each device

ArtOfCode

3:06 PM

@Undo unified modem-routers are good things to have :P

Undo

yeah, but the one from CenturyLink is okay at modem-ing, but horrible at router-ing. My Airport Time Capsule is awesome at router-ing.

Magisch

o/

Still no word from pops I reckon

ArtOfCode

@Undo can you not replace the CL device with a better unified thing?

Undo

@ArtOfCode I could, but I really like my TC

3TB backup disk that just works

ArtOfCode

Yeah, the AE is pretty awesome for places without cables throughout the house

@tripleee this is what you want, cc @Mego

Undo

3:22 PM

sd f

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer: Offline DNS resolution on Sierra by user224174 on apple.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

Anonymous

@ArtOfCode Thanks

SmokeDetector

3:47 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in answer: Generating 10 random numbers without duplicate with fundamental techniques by Nick Rimmer on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

fp- by Glorfindel

Undo's Raspberry Pi received failover signal.

Undo

huh, both Thomas' and Art's instances just dropped off the map

that's a little spooky

SmokeDetector

Restart: API quota is 9916.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in reverted mode at rev e02a4bf (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of neuroignite by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 2738.

Undo

!!/errorlogs 100

SmokeDetector

WebSocketBadStatusException: Handshake status 503
2017-02-09 15:50:01.779656 UTC
  File "ws.py", line 202, in <module>
    ws = websocket.create_connection("ws://qa.sockets.stackexchange.com/")

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_core.py", line 487, in create_connection
    websock.connect(url, **options)

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_core.py", line 214, in connect
    self.handshake_response = handshake(self.sock, *addrs, **options)

  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/websocket/_handshake.py", line 65, in handshake

  File "ws.py", line 103, in <module>
    time.sleep(3)


KeyboardInterrupt
2017-02-08 19:24:24.598801 UTC
  File "ws.py", line 103, in <module>
    time.sleep(3)


KeyboardInterrupt
2017-02-08 19:25:15.702909 UTC
  File "ws.py", line 55, in <module>
    GlobalVars.wrapso.login(username, password)

  File "/media/sda1/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/client.py", line 140, in login
    self._br.login_site(self.host)

  File "/media/sda1/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 168, in login_site

Undo

Websockets blipped

!!/master

SmokeDetector

3:59 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 7c9d59d (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of bitcoins-to-cash\.com by Glorfindel --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 2726.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 10b2dec (Thomas Ward: Oops, undefined variables are undefined... fix that.) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

Undo

!!/standby Undo

SmokeDetector

@Undo teward/Aurora is ignoring this command.

Jan Dvorak

> A terrible chill runs up your spine!

Undo

4:11 PM

@awesome_human_ Load balancer flip for other changes, they're background so we shift them hard sometimes - most don't notice ;)

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on February 9, 2017 at 4:07 PM in reply to awesome_human_

Failing over all instances to un-revert them...

SmokeDetector

Undo's Raspberry Pi received failover signal.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 10b2dec (Thomas Ward: Oops, undefined variables are undefined... fix that.) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

ArtOfCode/EC2 received failover signal.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev dc674f1 (Undo1: Merge branch 'standby_backups') (running on ArtOfCode/EC2)

Undo

Need to figure out why that happens

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What now? Python by Greg Salomons on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Undo's Raspberry Pi received failover signal.

Undo

4:26 PM

!!/status

SmokeDetector

@Undo Running since 15:59:33 UTC (27 minutes)

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 10b2dec (Thomas Ward: Oops, undefined variables are undefined... fix that.) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

CI on 634d20a succeeded.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 634d20a (Undo1: Adjust error handling in metasmoke pings) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: TSQL - How do i retrieve the 16 digit card numbers from a string? by Tony on dba.stackexchange.com

J F

@SmokeDetector v

Wai Ha Lee

4:48 PM

rude/abusive? stackoverflow.com/a/42140549/1364007

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Fill an array with random numbers by Action Jackson on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

Anonymous

Yep

SmokeDetector

tpu- by J F

Undo's Raspberry Pi received failover signal.

Undo

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@Undo teward/Aurora

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 634d20a (Undo1: Adjust error handling in metasmoke pings) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

CI on 2a97cfe succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 2a97cfe (Undo1: Reset last ping time during failover --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 2273.

SmokeDetector

5:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 2a97cfe (Undo1: Reset last ping time during failover --autopull) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

Undo's Raspberry Pi received failover signal.

Restart: API quota is 9894.

Undo

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@Undo teward/Aurora

@Undo Undo's Raspberry Pi

Anonymous

@Undo Maybe standby locations should report that they're on standby?

Undo

@Mego Neither of those are standby right now; I'm testing stuff

(see metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/status)

Anonymous

Ah, so the standby location doesn't respond?

Undo

5:22 PM

yeah, it doesn't even bind to the chat websockets

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector k

Undo

!!/standby undo

SmokeDetector

@Undo teward/Aurora is ignoring this command.

Undo's Raspberry Pi is switching to standby

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 2a97cfe (Undo1: Reset last ping time during failover --autopull) (running on Undo's Raspberry Pi)

Anonymous

Is there a way to give feedback without using chat commands or using FDSC? Specifically, can feedback be given via MS?

Undo

@ArtOfCode low-priority, but at some point it'd be good for you to manually pull your EC2 instance

ArtOfCode

5:23 PM

done

aka "was already SSH'd in"

J F

@Undo Any progress on telling if a post is deleted from the MS API?

Undo

Probably today.

6-8 minutes

maybe 12-16, I have to go eat.

Ferrybig

5:42 PM

@Mego Only on posts without feedback, using the review option at the top

Anonymous

@Ferrybig I went to review, but didn't see any way to add feedback. I'll check next time a post goes without feedback.

ArtOfCode

6:01 PM

There's also the API, but you'd have to write your own app for that

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer: Transferring ownership of an Android app by Lion Trasking on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

J F

@SmokeDetector k

Anonymous

I didn't see any way to add feedback on the review page

Glorfindel

@Mego because JF was too fast?

Anonymous

@Glorfindel Nope, I had the review page up before the feedback was added.

ArtOfCode

6:13 PM

@Mego screenshot it next time

Anonymous

Will do

Anonymous

I'm surprised it took so long to get some spam

SmokeDetector

API quota rolled over with 1717 requests remaining. Current quota: 9999.

stackoverflow: 1468
askubuntu: 488
superuser: 402
drupal: 254
unix: 254
math: 180
electronics: 175
salesforce: 157
dba: 157
english: 143
gis: 137
travel: 135
mathoverflow.net: 125
security: 124
apple: 120
magento: 120
academia: 119
wordpress: 118
physics: 96
sharepoint: 96
ru.stackoverflow: 89
ell: 87
gaming: 84
mathematica: 82
es.stackoverflow: 79
money: 78
movies: 77
tex: 76
softwareengineering: 74
stats: 73
chemistry: 69
scifi: 69
rpg: 69
workplace: 68
gamedev: 66
webapps: 63
meta: 60
graphicdesign: 53

J F

I have to go. See everyone later.

Undo

Cya

SmokeDetector

6:22 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Exactly how can you try Pure Vigor Excel by moveauto on bricks.stackexchange.com

Undo

sd k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How does Internet link bonding work? by Megha Sinha on superuser.com

Anonymous

Ok now the buttons are loading

ArtOfCode

@Mego

Anonymous

Weird

SmokeDetector

6:29 PM

tpu- by Mego

Anonymous

Blame gremlins

ArtOfCode

I usually do

DavidPostill

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@DavidPostill It's J F's fault.

DavidPostill

@Mego ^^^ There you go ;P

Anonymous

6:31 PM

Got it, don't feed JF after midnight

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector f

Mithrandir

Why does it disappear after someone marks it as an FP?

ArtOfCode

gremlins

Anonymous

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@Mego It's Ferrybig's fault.

Anonymous

6:34 PM

There you go

Mithrandir

Why do you do this, large boat?

Anonymous

If that actually was spam, and the spammers created a useful question and a helpful answer, then mission accomplished

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: onlinehealthmarkets.com/testo-fire-x/ by phaki drala on apple.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Magisch

Undo

I love how the userscript handles deletions. It's pretty much perfect.

ArtOfCode

which userscript? I've lost track

Undo

6:44 PM

Feb 3 at 9:41, by Glorfindel

This userscript adds autoflagging information to Smokey's reports in Charcoal HQ. It's still in alpha - // TODO: lines make up about half of the total LOC.

ArtOfCode

+1

Undo

metasmoke pushes deletion data directly to the browser, so it's realtime-ish

sd f

need to figure out why that deletes sometimes

SmokeDetector

Conflicting feedback on newly signed up observer in coverity scan open source project, curl scanned 23/JAN/2017, showing 0 defects.

Undo

Is it only when we use the shortcut command?

'supplements' might be a little broad

Anonymous

@SmokeDetector f

Undo

6:49 PM

14/11 tp/fp record for 'supplements' on its own

Thomas Ward

7:06 PM

yeah a little too broad heh

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@ThomasWard teward/Aurora

Glorfindel

7:24 PM

Thx @Undo for the API changes. I'll add the deletion information to the initial load of the chatroom (cc @JF )

SmokeDetector

7:39 PM

CI on e311107 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e311107 (Undo1: Ignore .DS_Store files --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)

Restart: API quota is 9404.

Glorfindel

AIM v0.7 is available; this userscript adds autoflagging information and post deletion to all Smokey reports in Charcoal HQ.

Undo

Works here

Glorfindel

types a message requesting to pin my previous message and deletes it because of ninjas

Seth

AIM? Really?

ArtOfCode

and here

Glorfindel

7:42 PM

great

@Seth it was originally called Autoflagging Information, but now it does More.

time for a beer and cooking dinner now.

Seth

but it reminds me of AIM shudders

ArtOfCode

@Glorfindel this... is an idea I'm going to copy

Seth

wiki:AOL Instant messenger

ArtOfCode

try underscores

Seth

AOL Instant Messenger

AIM (previously AOL Instant Messenger) is an instant messaging and presence computer program which uses the proprietary OSCAR instant messaging protocol and the TOC protocol to allow registered users to communicate in real time. AIM was popular in the late 1990s and early 2000s in North America, and was the leading instant messaging application in that region. AIM's popularity steeply degraded at the end of the decade, and its fall has often been compared with other once-popular internet services such as MySpace. == History == AOL Instant Messenger was initially integrated into AOL Desktop and...

must be my spelling. too tired to fix it.

ArtOfCode

7:45 PM

capital M

Byte Commander

@Glorfindel "C" + "o" * 42 + "l!"

Seth

that picky eh?

Byte Commander

But I am not really sure yet how I see whether a post is deleted?

Undo

@ByteCommander It's greyed out a little

Thomas Ward

should make it even more pale

Byte Commander

7:48 PM

Oooohhh....

Not seeing the forest because of all the trees...

SmokeDetector

8:11 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Yahoo Finance API intermittent Bad Request by MixMasterT on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

naa- by ArtOfCode

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Terminal login hangs by Robin D on apple.stackexchange.com

ArtOfCode

^ that smells. Is sudo.ws a legit site?

Byte Commander

@ArtOfCode It'S the official website listed in the "sudo" wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo

ArtOfCode

hm, okay

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer: What is the name of this solitaire game? by john on boardgames.stackexchange.com

tpu- by ArtOfCode

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Woocommerce Only Showing One Result on Search by Taylor Foster on wordpress.stackexchange.com

fp- by NobodyNada

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer: Can a dragon be electrocuted? by billnyethescienceguy on worldbuilding.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Glorfindel

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Can a dragon be electrocuted? by billnyethescienceguy on worldbuilding.stackexchange.com

Thomas Ward

8:42 PM

^ @Undo @ArtOfCode also not caught, same user, answer on same question, 3 minutes apart.

SmokeDetector

tpu- by teward

NobodyNada

shouldn't it have been caught for repeating words?

Thomas Ward

probably, but it wasn't captured

NobodyNada

maybe repeating words should ignore newlines?

Thomas Ward

9:05 PM

not sure if it does, but i know it checks unique words i think

checks code

!!/test foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo
foo foo foo

SmokeDetector

> Few unique characters in body, repeating words in body, repeating words in title
----------
Title - Repeated word: *foo*
Post - Contains 4 unique characters
Post - Repeated word: *foo*

Thomas Ward

waits for it to blow up

!!/test foo bar baz
Lorem ipsum foo dolor sit amet
foo bar foo

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

Thomas Ward

maybe it didn't trigger with enough

shrugs

SmokeDetector

9:33 PM

fp- by DavidPostill on Terminal login hangs [MS]

Glorfindel

@ThomasWard I can live with opacity: 0.3 instead of 0.5, but for me the current difference is clear enough. I'd like to hear other people's opinions about this.

J F

MSO uses opacity: 0.5 for downvoted answers.

Undo

@Glorfindel I like it how it is. I don't really care if it adjusted, though.

DavidPostill

@Glorfindel It's fine for me as is.

J F

@Glorfindel your wish is granted.

ProTip: press y in GitHub before sharing a link to a file/line. This expands the branch name in the URL to the commit SHA.

DavidPostill

9:48 PM

@JF Bug: Both of these are deleted but not displaying as light grey

The ones directly above and below are displaying correctly.

ArtOfCode

suspect that's a bug somewhere else rather than in the userscript

probably MS didn't send any deletion data

J F

@DavidPostill [status-blame-Undo]

3

DavidPostill

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@DavidPostill It's J F's fault.

DavidPostill

@JF lol

SmokeDetector

9:57 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: CURL / PHP Anomoly by Anthony David 'Adams on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

fp- by J F

ArtOfCode

@JF technically, this is probably [status-blame-SE] for not sending the original data to us, but close enough :)

J F

@ArtOfCode Can this be fixed?

ArtOfCode

depends

I suspect the issue is either that we never got deletion data from the SE websocket (which we can't do anything about) or that said data was sent after we'd given up and dropped the socket (10 minutes, I think?).

J F

@ArtOfCode Could you call the API for tpu- posts after an hour or so?

J F

10:16 PM

User style for GitHub: don’t let various bars & boxes disappear off the edge of the screen

ArtOfCode

@JF possibly? We currently do it with websockets, which we could just extend the timeout on

J F

11:50 PM

@Glorfindel I’ve rewritten the userscript to allow for dynamic updates. I have to go now, but I’ll try my best to respond to any issues you find.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: need logo and website review by Shiny Elena on superuser.com

DavidPostill

"This is not an attempt to promote the website" Saying that doesn't make it not spam. — DavidPostill 50 secs ago

SmokeDetector

fp- by NobodyNada

NobodyNada

I wouldn't call it spam; just blatantly off-topic.

Spam "exists only to promote a product or service"

DavidPostill

@NobodyNada So you think that is not promoting resumewritinglab.com?

NobodyNada

11:56 PM

> If you have any suggestions regarding content, design, please write here. And please write, what would you improve?

ArtOfCode

borderline

DavidPostill

<shrug>

ArtOfCode

it could be well-disguised promotion

NobodyNada

Agreed.

But we needn't assume it is.

DavidPostill

@NobodyNada It's the third time

SmokeDetector

11:58 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Shutdown via batch file into infinite loop? by Sir Buttcrack 3rd on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)

tpu- by NobodyNada

DavidPostill

3 different users, all asking for a logo review.

NobodyNada

Nice find; that changes my opinion about that

DavidPostill

I remembered seeing it before :)

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