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12:00 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: maleenhancementshop.info/platinum-xt-1000/ by Platinum XT 1000 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: How much amount should be paid for retained players in IPL? by veerendar on sports.stackexchange.com
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Glory N
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Difference/usage of "contributor" vs. "donator" by Arshad Mehmood on english.stackexchange.com
 
Yeah, I went for that as well but it's close to spam.
 
I went for "smells Nigerian"
though +92 is Pakistan
 
12:05 PM
s/Nigerian/Pakistanian/g
 
Well, it's not like it needs to be removed ASAP
 
Sometimes I'm afraid spam is turning me into a bigot
 
So there's no need to bombard it with red flags of any kind
@Magisch Welcome to the club
I'm way past that line
But for FWIW, expecting most spam to be from country X isn't necessarily bigotry
 
we have had that discussion here before, it's not that people from country X are worse than people from other countries, it's economic fact that many countries X have large populations who have no honest means to earn a living
and if country X produces a large number of spam posts, you have to weigh that against non-spam from country X, not from non-spam posts overall
chances are you don't see country X in the posts which aren't spam because you aren't looking for it (confirmation bias)
 
A couple of months ago, we had a heated debate in the Netherlands about 'ethnic profiling'. The police, when conducting a general traffic control, would be inclined to pull out ethnic minorities in big cars, because they were more likely to be obtained via illegal means.
Once that was known, everybody went crazy about it.
I told some of my friends, who are cops, that they should call it 'statistically selecting' instead.
 
12:10 PM
Humans always looked for problems to solve throughout the history
They never said enough to anything
That's why they survived, and a lot of species from that time went extinct
Now we're looking for trouble
 
tpu- by tripleee
naa- by Floern
 
But there are no epidemics or sabertooths.
 
@SmokeDetector wut?
 
So we make up social sabertooths of our own
 
@Floern you probably flagged the other answer. It's a known FDSC bug.
 
12:13 PM
@Glorfindel I don't see how that helps, whether discriminatory behavior is based on science or not doesn't change the fact that it's discriminatory behavior
 
@Glorfindel no, I apparently misclicked :/
 
@tripleee no, it doesn't.
@Floern OK, that's a PICNIC (problem in chair, not in computer).
 
BTW, I remember the highest close reopen wars on a single post was 28 times. Can we make history again?
Though I don't remember if it was 14 reopens and 14 closings, or 28 reopens and 28 closings
 
New metasmoke user 'Joshbuck' created
 
Cool name
 
12:24 PM
But who is it?
 
Josh Buck. Duh
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: These components condition by Zainabmirza on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@M.A.R. I don't know that user.
 
I don't either
Perhaps JF?
 
24 hours ago, by SmokeDetector
New metasmoke user 'J F' created
 
12:26 PM
Oh
It must be Zephyr
 
@Glorfindel Racial / Ethnic profiling violates international law and pretty much every constitution IIRC
 
IOW, I'm out of ideas
 
@Magisch it's not that they only pulled out those guys, but they were more likely to be pulled out.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: behind Platinum XT 1000 infant by lirobu sam on drupal.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
And the 'investigation' itself was done without any prejudice.
 
12:31 PM
@Glorfindel Thats still a human rights violation
The act of pulling out someone is already a negative action
 
It's not that much different from patrolling in neighbourhood A and not in B because there are more burglaries in A.
 
@Glorfindel unless the neighborhoods have distinct ethnic profiles, there is a difference
 
Not really equivalent
 
or selecting neighborhoods A, D, and E because of their ethnic profiles, instead of actual crime statistics
 
@tripleee totally agree. No race is any different from another. Cultures and societies are different, as are economic circumstances for people. This can cause what is perceived to be racial differences, when it's in fact a circumstance of a group of people, who could have been any race had they been subjected to the same conditions. I'm wary of ethnic profiling. I hope that came out as I intended
 
12:36 PM
racial / ethnic profiling is unconstitutional in most western countries and violates international law. It may be effective, but it's broadly illegal.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to easily minimize waste using a potato smasher? by Ortega on cooking.stackexchange.com
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tpu- by Glorfindel
 
!!/blacklist-website essayacademia\.com
 
@Magisch Blacklisted essayacademia\.com
 
@SmokeDetector LOL, he basically put the other answer through a thesaurus and added a spam link.
 
CI on c331e45 succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 5250.
 
12:42 PM
@Glorfindel Does Seasoned Advice have audits? That would be a hard one
 
No, it doesn't.
 
> Simply lift it up and crush it down on some UN-crushed potatoes . . .
Hehe
BTW I read that United-Nations-crushed at first
@SmokeDetector This is my new favorite
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Read here advantage of Rejuvonus Crème? by rejuvonus03 on superuser.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: sentencing young women by lirobu sam on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@Mithrandir you're here; that's already pretty good signal that you'd make a good mod. Some people here would make better mods than others, but nobody here would be a bad mod.
 
12:58 PM
I would make the best mod
Trust me
 
@M.A.R. oh rly
 
I would make all the crappy posters build a wall between themselves and the computer.
Made out of legos, and they will pay for it
Or increase their taxes to compensate
 
@ArtOfCode :D
 
@Mithrandir It tickles
 
@M.A.R. so shriek like a little girl.
 
1:11 PM
Honestly though, I haven't seen you much around to judge you correctly, but it's hard to be a crappy mod.
Especially on smaller sites
 
@M.A.R. actually... It's harder than it looks.
 
It's harder when you communicate a lot
You have to act all moddy
 
Pressing the buttons ain't difficult, no. Dealing with people...
 
Yeah
 
I'm very active in several chats.
 
1:13 PM
@Mithrandir Then I'd recommend not becoming a mod
 
and remaining calm when they're actively trying to annoy you
 
I believe that I can deal with people okay...
@ArtOfCode I have experience doing that
 
@Mithrandir The problem is you won't be able to say some things you otherwise would freely say so
That's why I'm not sure I'd run for any other election myself
 
@Mithrandir usually a good thing. The only question about that is whether the people in those chats are going to respect your authority when you're blue?
 
And you're not allowed to be a jerk
And I can't do that
I might leave a disclaimer in a nomination post that I'm gonna shout at you if you annoy me
 
1:15 PM
I hope they will. The only one I would worry about is Mos Eisley, and I'm not that active there anymore.
 
That would have been me two years ago.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to set fallback encoding to UTF-8 in Firefox? by Ray-V on unix.stackexchange.com
 
Actually, it turns out trolling people when they annoy you is far more effective.
 
Anyway, it's not a foregone conclusion that I will win, so...: P
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: www.nutritionfit.org/testomenix/ by Mnoj Ftor on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
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1:16 PM
@ArtOfCode Effective isn't easy
 
@Mithrandir aye, but good luck with it. It's always good to add another diamond to the list of 'em we have around here :)
This room has a habit of breeding them
 
@SmokeDetector why
 
@Mithrandir It was a tough race for me in Chem's previous mod election, and I lost by a narrow margin. You can never tell, but you usually have a high chance if you have good rep
 
@Glorfindel Body - Position 356-372: ray-v.tk
 
Both the rep rep and the people rep
 
1:18 PM
I'm the third on the site atm
 
@SmokeDetector anybody an idea about this website? Judging by the username, it's his own site.
 
@ArtOfCode hence the room description
 
@Mithrandir That's good stance.
 
@Mithrandir this literature? I hope you like a challenge :)
 
1:20 PM
Huh, it graduated already? :P
 
Not yet
But it's been very active
Everyone thinks that it will continue.
 
They don't graduate a site that easily
@Mithrandir Then it will graduate hopefully. But not in a near future
 
Not graduating, merely going public.
 
Near meaning nearly near
@Mithrandir The staff choose the pro tem mods, it's not going to be an election
 
The AI site went public after a much slower private beta.
@M.A.R. I know
 
1:22 PM
!!/test-q ray-v.tk/moo
 
> Would not be caught as a question.
 
There's a meta post asking for nominations. Or, there will be. That's scary ai did.
 
Only answers. Apparently, all .tk links in answers are suspicious:
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: no usage. I know it's Platinum XT 1000 by lirobu sam on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
 
You can nominate yourself and others for protem
 
1:23 PM
@Glorfindel ah thanks ... that's a bit stern, isn't it?
 
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@tripleee my intuition says yes, but if you could dig up some numbers :)
Also, my intuition says we've had this discussion before, maybe about .pk.
Jun 8 '16 at 0:12, by sandwich
98 TPs vs. 16 FPs, right now. Not a really bad score, I say.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: How do I auto BCC all e-mails from Outlook 2013? by Oliver on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
@Glorfindel some of the FPs are rather unnerving, though -- would be nice if we could whitelist e.g. tcl.tk from underneath
 
1:44 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Windows 10, HP laptop battery "plugged in, not charging" by Qasim on superuser.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
@tripleee agreed. Is there already a GH issue requesting a whitelist for websites?
 
2
Q: Accpeting nominiations — Who should moderate this site?

Robert CartainoIdeally Moderators are elected by the community, but until the community is large enough to hold a proper election, we will be appointing three provisional Moderators to fill those roles. We need your help. Please nominate folks you would like to see become provisional moderators for this site. ...

I'll accept my nomination when it goes up.
;)
 
Two spulling mistooks in the tile :)
 
@DavidPostill fixed 'em :P
 
1:54 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: variable to keep total count by eller on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
2:07 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: what do you mean the data types and operators used in visual basic?what's their characteristics? by coder on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: I created a app and website anyone interested to invest by Nirmalya Gayen on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Mithrandir
 
2:30 PM
@Mithrandir why not self-nominate, if you want the diamond?
 
in The Reading Room, 8 mins ago, by Mithrandir
I can't decide whether to self-nominate or wait till @Riker or @Benjamin does it...
 
Greetings to all.
 
@Mithrandir I'd self-nominate. Shows that you're actively interested, rather than just "will do if someone wants me to"
 
They both said they might. I have to go AFK soon, so I won't bother now. If it's not up by the time I get back, I'll make it go up.
 
@ArtOfCode I take it that we have not had a random crash with that ValueError yet?
 
2:33 PM
Ah, good, my emails to spammers have been replied to. This should be a fun day.
 
@ArtOfCode lol
 
@ThomasWard you're the one with the logs :P
 
@ArtOfCode I haven't seen any crashes, since I put in some checking code to capture/handle the error
that evil error was evil, so I have workarounds :P
!!/location
 
@ThomasWard teward/Aurora
 
@Magisch Yeah, I kinda went on a mini tirade about this on Tumblr last night, blah. (That's my political crazyness bit for the day, time to switch into developer/sysadmin modes)
 
2:36 PM
@ThomasWard You're related to Cecil Ward?
 
who's Cecil Ward?
 
a name I saw on MSO
 
...So that's a no. :P
 
@ArtOfCode You notice the ginormous meta drama on SO?
 
@Magisch of course :)
I've got an answer on it
 
2:38 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Ladies must avoid the habit of preserving Jack Hammer XL? by AaricaHadden on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Yvette
 
well that went away fast lol
@SmokeDetector k
 
@ArtOfCode Trump's really messing with the US
already
sigh I hoped that he wouldn't be quite as insane as his campaign rhethoric made him sound
 
can I make one request?
Let's leave the politics at the door, and leave it in a politics.se chat room?
just for today?
(my brain doesn't want to think about politics today, or I'll go on a tirade that won't end until cops show up)
 
alright
 
Are we allowed to discuss about discussions about politics?
 
2:43 PM
the two hours sleep thing didn't help
 
I'm a tad on edge because multiple friends of mine are affected by the ban
 
nor did my neighbors being noisy as all hell between 2AM and 8AM
the cops didn't show up either when I called
@Magisch Uhm, the 'ban' was stayed by a federal court, that hasn't been overruled yet IIRC, and only SCOTUS or a higher appeals court between the district court and SCOTUS could overturn - nobody's doing that
 
@ThomasWard immediate back deportation was stayed
being held at the airport for god knows how long hasn't been.
And airlines are taking the cautious route and denying boarding now even before people run into US immigration officials
 
@SmokeDetector fp-
anyways that's enough for my political stuff today, until I get boozed up in three weeks when my friend visits again.
 
Was that the one that pinged me?
 
3:00 PM
@Mithrandir yes
@Mithrandir Here's the MetaSmoke for that ping.
 
@ThomasWard thanks
 
@Mithrandir You're welcome :)
 
A reply to that deleted message:
I'm notionally nominating Mithrandir (don't want to post as a nomination yet as I don't know if he wants to be punished... errr... nominated). — DVK 13 mins ago
 
@Mithrandir TL;DR, Smokey picked up the use of certain swear words in a block-quote from a link to try and explain things. Quoted, so not really an 'offensive' post per se.
 
I know.
 
3:04 PM
sorry, force of habit :)
 
3:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: A complaint on behalf of my friend who got suspended by snailplane by a deleted user on japanese.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Getting field names reflectively with Python by Deamon aka Mark Cowan on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
Ah, thanks
 
a mod on that site
must have suspended someone
 
it's an ongoing thing; someone has a serious bugbear with snailplane
 
3:40 PM
I have seen a non-rude rant as well yesterday. It was still a rant, nevertheless.
@Magisch and angussidney: This is the first I've heard of 'Smoke Detector' and 'Charcoal'. I'll definitely have to chat with you guys in the near future. I don't see diamonds next to your names, so I guess you're not SE Community Managers, and yet it sounds like you have knowledge of certain powers that would definitely be useful to us here. — Todd Trimble ♦ 3 mins ago
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: An adjective for "extremely naive, almost dumb" by nnnnn on english.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
4:08 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive body detected: Let us all join together and hate snailplane, an evil mistress by Oliver Smith on english.stackexchange.com
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: can define about your mother in your life jounery by wap media1 on english.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Mithrandir
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Hiring and buying used bicycle in Tbilisi, Georgia by Tim M. on travel.stackexchange.com
fp- by Mithrandir
 
4:37 PM
@Glorfindel Cool
 
5:04 PM
@ArtOfCode you have a diamond on SO right? Or was that Undo?
 
that's Undo
I ran but didn't get it
 
Art has on Software Open Source and Hardware Recs IIRC
 
ah, damn, sorry bout that Art, I did vote for you though
I need to borrow @Undo's hammer :p
 
hammer rentals aren't cheap. Whatcha need it for?
 
@Undo stackoverflow.com/questions/41941174/… I think needs a squishing as opinion based
 
5:06 PM
It's consistently weird that people keep believing this project is somehow run by CMs
 
basically, go handle the flags queue :p
@Magisch it's the fact that most of the people with major contribs. are blue names. They think we're SE employees.
 
depends on what you call major
 
@Undo thank you kindly.
 
If you mean just the admins then yes
 
@Magisch true.
@Magisch well what about those of us squishing errors or adding error handlers to not have as many hard crashes lol
 
5:08 PM
@ThomasWard Like I said, admins
 
@Magisch eh, most folks haven't invested the time to figure out all the weird privilege levels SE has. I don't blame them.
 
You're an admin
 
On another note, is it just me or is metasmoke being halfway bearable?
 
@Undo I figured them all out to find out I'm at the very bottom
 
I haven't visited it yet
 
5:08 PM
@Undo I haven't noticed, my VPN tunnel to my home adds a slowness factor, any slowness i attribute to that today
 
miniprof shows a decent slowdown, but I'm not convinced it's actually there in time-to-glass
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: ajax refresh to display new posts by kafsabizarin on wordpress.stackexchange.com
 
@Undo 700ms x 4 for main page according to my test recently
 
tpu- by Mithrandir
 
at least that's what the little indicator at the corner says
 
5:10 PM
@Undo 1-1,5s per load for me
More for regex search
all in all normal
 
regex search is just bad overall :P
 
630.7, 21.5, 32.9, 15.5, speeds.
@Undo looks to be half decent :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: adding script tag in head of specific pages by kafsabizarin on wordpress.stackexchange.com
 
also, ipv6 is fun
Having a gazillion addresses all to myself is awesome
 
That looks like NAA but has a spam link ^^
 
5:11 PM
tpu- by Undo
 
@Undo I think I have you beat, every single one of my VPSes has a /64 of IPv6 allocated to it
I have, I think, exponentially more than you do :P
 
Maybe not, actually
 
19 /64s, vs. how many /64s for you?
and I mean the entire /64 for each VPS
 
I have a /56 in every AWS region that supports it
 
ooo nice
yeah that beats me
 
5:12 PM
and could have a bunch of those in each region, technically
 
wish i had a /56 :P
hell I wish Comcast would give me a freaking IPv6 range like they promised
but Nooooo, they give me a SINGLE IPv6 address
no prefix to distribute to my systems
 
@ThomasWard 'congratulations here's your /128 have fun'
BAHAHA, that's actually what they did?
 
@Undo "Our system shows that you should be getting [IPv6 prefix]/64 as allocateable to your systems, maybe your configuration is wrong?"
YA TARDS, I'M REQUESTING THE CORRECT PREFIX LENGTH YA NINNYS, GIVE ME!
>.>
 
@ThomasWard When the guy on the other hand (the sysadmin) is way better then the supporter you're dealing with.
 
@Undo a /128 for the 'router' address, but they're supposed to send me a /64 or smaller (but still a LARGE number of v6) if the system is configured to request the prefix
when I move back to Pittsburgh, I'm getting business class
contract guarantees symmetric speeds, static v4s (a /25), and IPv6 prefixes.
more expensive, but i'd gladly shell that out for USEFUL THINGS I SHOULD ALREADY HAVE
 
5:15 PM
All these blue names are making me jealous. I want one too :P
 
You're fourteen? Huh, wouldn't have guessed
 
Really? o_o
 
oh you know what, I wonder whether the problem is my modem
maybe I should upgrade
 
Fourteen year olds tend to make decent moderators.
 
anyone want to give me $150 lol
 
5:18 PM
@ThomasWard In your dreams.
 
ah that explains it, "Device not supported" but it used to be
heh
 
@ThomasWard And then, my ISP gives me a /48 IP range, more that enough prefixes to do advanced IPv6 subnetting
 
@Ferrybig Want. Give. steals all of @Ferrybig's networking, and leaves a small dead zone in its place
 
@Undo I wouldn't have put you at sub-18 either
This place is full of underage geniuses
 
But I'm the geniusest
 
5:23 PM
I'm a dimwit
7
of course you had to star that
 
Yes I did :P
in The Sphinx's Lair, Jan 15 at 12:43, by Mithrandir
1 hour ago, by Emrakul
Me: "I'm an idiot." Everyone else: "Let's star this and save it for all eternity."
 
well at least I have an Amazon credit line with a decent interest rate.
Just got the modem I'm supposed to have there.
blurgh.
that'll help things.
 
5:54 PM
@ThomasWard I'm really viscerally afraid of borrowing money
at all
 
@Magisch well, I am too, but Amazon's rate they gave me is, what, 11% interest per year? And that helps because it's not like I'm borrowing thousands, I'm borrowing a hundred in a credit line with a max. limit of 2k that i am nowhere near.
and i pay it off fairly quickly
totally paid off once my refund check comes in, estimating $1.2k refund
 
right
I get super anxious if I have sub 3k in the bank
 
and this is necessary unless I want Comcast to not work with my equipment
 
despite that being 6 months salary for me
 
@Magisch I'm a college student. I never have 3k in the bank xD
 
5:56 PM
@ThomasWard I saved it bitterly from fixing other people's computers while I lived at home
and got some from my ma before she died
 
indeed.
Most of my bills are paying off debts
 
I have automatic deduction set up
although I hawk my bank notes every other week
 
My paycheck never arrives when I need it to
so I have to pay as i get paid
and I have about $650 in savings bonds I'll be cashing in during Spring Break
which will help cut my debt down even more
gonna pay off one of the cards, so I don't have to deal with that money hole anymore :P
of the $550 on my Amazon card, $200 is not my debt
and i'm being paid back $200 by the friend I lent that money to
they needed a new drawing tablet
 
When my paycheck arrives late, I eat late
 
so I helped.
'twas part of their christmas gifts.
@Magisch School is advantageous - meal plan covered by all my loans and grants and crap so yeah
 
5:59 PM
I'm probably very unhealthy with money
 
i'm probably worse
 

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