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6:15 PM
derp
Smokey's gonna get a quick bounce, everyone. Gotta patch OpenSSL so SSL will break...
!!/stappit
 
Restart: API quota is 8076.
 
welcome back you
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Python API JSON dictionary loop by Tural Muzaffarli on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
6:38 PM
@ThomasWard Taken an interest in smokey lately I see
It's great that knowledgeable nice people come in :D
 
@Magisch I've been taking an interest in Smokey for a couple months now :P
you should see the commit logs, there's a buttload of commits from me there
 
I started seeing you a lot more in the past couple of weeks though
Like, every day you'd be in here kind of more
:p
 
@Magisch I'm always in here
 
Maybe you just changed schedules I'm only reliably in here 8-5:30 on mon-thur
 
the past couple weeks, though, I'm not pulling 8 hours a day of work :P
I'm back at classes, with a laptop, so always online
with varying frequency
 
6:45 PM
Being involved here is both a blessing and a curse
On one hand fighting spam is very nice on the other hand I'm very reminded how mediocre I am compared to really intelligent people
 
@Magisch well, there's a few other considerations
being involved here as a regular is a blessing and a curse
when you have Smokey creds, it's an obligation
like, yesterday Undo's instance of Smokey went away
so two hours later when I realize it, I launched Aurora to cover
one of the many reasons I keep creds around
and a couple copies of smokey ready to launch :P
just in case something dies off.
 
I really like it here
can just come here and flag spam
 
Not to mention, fixing things in code so we aren't using evil modules, etc. is something I like doing
esp. as a collaborative effort
 
and I get to learn regex on the side
 
@Magisch` oh definitely, it's nice being here and contributing, and helping squish spam :)
also nice that Smokey can ping for a given site, so when I'm online the spam survives for only a handful of seconds
 
6:48 PM
I'm a programmer apprentice, but I'm not very good at programming yet
 
i'm self-taught at Python :P
and i'm pretty good at it too
IDEs help too (PyCharm Pro is amazing)
 
I'm starting to get a grip on regex finally
which is amazing cause I always wanted to learn regex
 
I'm still noob at regex. But, I'm learning a bit :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Get into fastboot mode without root or hardware buttons by Naser Alimohamadi on android.stackexchange.com
 
maintaining the python code to capture unhandled errors is my primary focus
 
6:49 PM
tpu- by Magisch
 
and other things too :)
 
I find it amazing that something like this exists where I can just walk in and help out basicly
 
You don't need to know a whole lot about regex to be effective. Optional characters (?), character groups ([A-Z]) and capturing groups ((stuff)) are the important bits.
 
pretty much, @ArtOfCode
 
thats how I got here. Someone linked charcoal hq in socvr and I just dropped in and flagged spam
 
6:50 PM
@Magisch I was surprised when i learned it existed, then I started learning how Smokey works. Then mod diamond of godliness.
now I help keep Smokey working well :)
but hey, I like working on projects like these which help everyone :)
(also one of the reasons I took over maintenance of nginx in Ubuntu :P)
 
I've done moderator work on other sites before but never like this
SE in general is a blessing and a curse for me. The curse part is I end up spending an inordinate amount of my free time moderating things :p
@ThomasWard See its people like you that litter SE. Then I look at myself and go "Well, what have YOU done for this world?" and it's pretty apparent that it's not a whole lot.
 
not really
I'm pretty isolated in Ask Ubuntu with interaction with the SE network
 
Well I mean the other stuff
 
ah, well, that's actually from before Ask Ubuntu moderatorpower
nginx, I took an interest in back in 2014
 
doesn't make it less impressive tho
There was a guy in my class in high school who was a wikipedia administrator. Wrote one of the fraud detection algos for them
he was that kind of guy
always doing something for someone. and I just sit here and go home to play some video games mostly.
 
6:57 PM
hey I play a huge share of video games :P
 
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tpu- by Magisch
 
that answer it 2 years old
 
probably was edited
or the main post was bumped
 
naa- by teward
 
The "I've just written an article" is pretty spammish to me
But I see NAA too
 
7:00 PM
@Magisch is sitting here playing GTA when I should be doing work
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Is there a way to see a live demo of code samples hosted on gist? by Nitesh Joshi on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
@ArtOfCode I'm re-playing the witcher 3
I got both expansions and started a new playthrough on Death March difficulty
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How it possible in xml blogger by Nitesh Joshi on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Magisch
 
@Magisch There goes a good 200+ hours
I loved Witcher
I should play again too.
 
@Andy 321 Hours on record and I'm only just rescuing the bard in my second playthrough
Witcher is like my favorite RPG
No idea how they did it but CDPR made lightning strike with the witcher 3
It looks gorgeous, plays incredibly well and the story is just amazing
And it only kept getting better. I first played it when it came out and all the fixes they did meanwhile are showing a lot.
I think it's soured me permanently on single player rpgs though - no other comes even remotely close
 
7:13 PM
Got our networks coursework today. "Design, logically and physically, a network for this fictional large company, and simulate it to prove it works." Without any experience of designing networks.
 
That strikes me as easy
giant patch panel couple switches and lots of Lan cable.
at least thats how it works in my company
 
I don't forsee too many problems, but I'm a techie and have been doing networks and computers for the last decade. The rest of my group...
 
heh
 
Not sure where they expect you to get the hardware if they want you to simulate it on scale but still
Nah they'll be fine
networks is really easy these days
 
@Magisch that's why it's a simulation ;) you simulate with software, not by actually building it
so we have a 200-employee software company, with departments for development, sales, customer services, accounting, HR, and R&D.
there's a bunch of servers they need to have
yeah, it'll be interesting at least
 
7:17 PM
sounds similar to my company (has 280 some employees)
at least in software you can build it nice and clean in one go without literally a dozen switches littered through the ill equipped building and lan cable everywhere
clean and nice with an easy big patch panel
 
@Magisch I didn't know anything about Witcher 3 othe than my brother in law said it was awesome and he thought I'd like it. So, I picked it up and was amazed at a.) How good it was b.) How long it was (seriously, there were multiple times where I thought "Ok...here comes the ending...nope, that just opened up another 20 hours of game place") and c.) How good the expansions were, especially Blood and Wine. That's a whole game by itself. Heart of Stone was good, but Blood and Wine was amazing.
 
I haven't played the expansions yet
But I'm stoked
 
@ArtOfCode, the sounds like fun. For my masters I had to build a larger scale network and then defend it against classmates, while at the same time attempting to get data from their networks.
 
Also witcher 3 is really the only rpg yet for me where I wanted to go full on completionist on it since all the side quests are so damn interesting
 
@Andy that sounds like fun, not coursework
network war games
surely the way to play is put all the relevant security stuff on your own network, then attempt to take control of someone else's and use your combined force to DDoS yet another person's
 
7:25 PM
@ArtOfCode ArtOfNetworkConquest
 
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tpu- by Magisch
 
8:13 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: illegal websites by dmchocklett on security.stackexchange.com
fp- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How do I determine whether a drive is an HDD or SSD in Windows 8? by Pierre Pommier on superuser.com
 
either link-only or spam
I'll give the benefit of the doubt
 
naa- by NobodyNada
 
8:56 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: help i can't log into my account can't remember my password by patti flynn on webapps.stackexchange.com
fp- by Glorfindel
 
9:24 PM
sd f
 
@Undo the f posts are being removed again. You had changed it so they stayed in chat. Wondering why the change back.
 
don't know
I'm gone until Sunday afternoon US time. So if someone needs to be pinged about something urgent, I'm probably a poor choice.
 
alright; have a good weekend!
 
@Undo oky doky, didn't realise, have a good time
 
thanks :)
 
9:27 PM
Enjoy the camping!
 
If you need to urgently ping someone about... SmokeDetector: ping @ArtOfCode or @ThomasWard, metasmoke: ping @ArtOfCode.
behold
enjoy your camping, @Undo
 
you used all the formatting :P
thanks
 
expect fifty pull requests for review when you're back
@Undo And why shouldn't I?
 
@ThomasWard as long as we don't have to see fifty shades
 
@YvetteColomb of evil, or of code refactoring :P
hey the system pinged me for myself!
:P
 
9:31 PM
Recall, of course, that unless Undo has given me server access in the last hour since I checked my emails, I still can't do anything about it if metasmoke dies entirely.
 
that's next
 
Ah :)
 
@Undo kind of advantageous Aurora was already running, we didn't have to do the handoff today for Smokey heh
 
@ArtOfCode you probably don't have tools to deploy metasmoke, but if absolutely necessary that public key is on the ssh list. ssh -i ~/path/to/privkey.pem -p 65522 ubuntu@34.197.90.29 should work, maybe test it before I disappear
Should have full sudo access there too. Just don't be evil.
 
I'll try ;)
 
9:34 PM
basically, do not download my notavirus.py and run it with sudo :P
 
lemme find out where I saved that private key...
 
Capistrano deploy resides in /var/railsapps/metasmoke/current, which you'd probably have a heck of a time finding otherwise.
rails c p should work, but it's borked right now for some unknown reason.
bonus points if it works when I get back :P
 
begins googling
 
begins injecting evil into the server
 
Can't find my private key, which probably means it's on the Ubuntu filesystem. Gimme a minute.
 
9:35 PM
stops because he realizes he shouldn't
@ArtOfCode boo. I keep copies in encrypted file containers that can be opened cross-platform, on my owncloud server.
 
sudo reboot should work fine, if metasmoke starts being really slow.
 
you need t' get with the times :P
 
@ThomasWard I just have mine in Google Drive :P
 
@Undo encrypted or no?
 
no
 
9:36 PM
@ThomasWard I tend to just keep things on the Windows filesystem because I can access that from Ubuntu, but clearly I forgot.
 
also boo :P
 
probably generated it on Ubuntu and never moved it across
 
oh, @ArtOfCode bundle exec rails c p works.
 
@ArtOfCode #YouHaveFailed #LostPrivateKeys #YOLO
 
Can we clear some of the pinned stars? There are 6 currently
 
9:37 PM
@Undo which is a... Rails console?
 
Yes
 
@Andy two disappear on Sunday.
 
there, now there's only three
 
Thank you.
 
Should be semi-around for the next ~1.5h
 
9:39 PM
yay my phone's SSH to Aurora now works too! ^.^
(god, I love SSH Key Auth Only + 2FA on my servers...)
 
what are you using on the phone end? JuiceSSH?
 
SSH Term Pro, which works on both my iPad and my iPhone
JuiceSSH doesn't generate keys right on my phone, and it doesn't work on my iPad
SSH Term Pro works on both for only one purchase
 
does it do port forwarding?
 
@CaffeineAddiction Not necessary for my phone, but it can.
 
I needed something to port forward my VNC connection on my phone
 
9:41 PM
@CaffeineAddiction my phone VPN's to my apartment so :p
 
Juice did that for me
ah
 
@CaffeineAddiction I never needed VNC connectivity stuff, I have a remote desktop system that I can use already on my phone and tablet for RDP and VNC, and with the VPN to my apartment, I don't have to SSH just to make it work.
 
also been looking into setting up TINC on my phone to connect to my VPS ... but configuring it on my phone doesnt look fun
nice, yah I dont have control over my work server that has the external ssh access ... just the box on the inside of the network
 
I don't have that control either for my workplace. I do, however, control the only server of mine that is used solely as my pivor point into the network for certain boxes, so I SSH and then SSH again and all works
 
@Undo you've got a bunch of security updates waiting :P
 
9:45 PM
a dedicated 128MB VPS that has SSH Key Only + 2FA like Aurora, but has super locked down firewall rules
@ArtOfCode he probably knows and doesn't care runs
 
@ArtOfCode Usually do :P
This is mostly a contest to see who can horrify @ThomasWard the most.
 
:P
@Undo You cannot win that contest.
my workplace I work at in Pittsburgh PA has that won already
they were using an ancient Ubuntu 8.04 system and ANCIENT Python for some of their applications
 
anyway, installed the stuff. Yay for security.
 
it's no longer that way (thank you, myself, for spending almost 8 months of work to migrate data), but that still takes the gold for the contest.
@Undo lame, auto-updates for security rule.
 
I do indeed appear to be able to get at metasmoke now
 
9:47 PM
installing yourself is "WTF"
 
Oh, should probably set up nightly backups. Hold on.
 
Honestly, the fact that SELECT COUNT(*) FROM posts is taking 108ms to run probably isn't helping speed
 
what's the DB backend?
 
MySQL
 
is there a unique ID column?
 
9:53 PM
yup
that's what URLs are based on
 
is SELECT COUNT(uniqueid) FROM posts faster?
:P
 
The database design is solid
 
i wasn't asking for the design part :PP
Indexes are important though :P
and the unique identifier if it's a primary key is typically indexed
so searches are a tad faster
if not, you can always add an index
 
Yeah, we have an indexed primary key. That's just about good DB design. Problem is, we can't control what query Rails uses to perform the count.
and actually, COUNT(*) is faster than COUNT(id).
 
Post.count(:id) works, but yes.
if we add indexes, doing it in a proper migration would be best.
MySQL nightly backups should be working now.
 
9:58 PM
@Undo primary key is indexed, though
 
@ThomasWard there is a small difference between the two :)
 
Oh hey my data explorer PR got merged
 
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