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3:00 PM
Yeah it is very strange.
So it's very very strange.
But always wear gear when you're skating.
3:19 PM
Indeed it is very strange.
It's getting stranger every second.
I've heard that some USB models are not compatible with some USB port, maybe that's what causes the problem.
Hey cut them some slack, it's not like the U in USB stands for "universal" or something.
@RegDwight: Umm, looks like attacking Pulsing Death wasn't the best move you ever made. I have one win. I am going to go do something more profitable.
@Robusto I have long switched to Fight.
And wasn't it you who complained just the other day about getting bored with fighting the same decks all the time?
Well here you have some new training ground.
3:26 PM
I dunno. My cards are outdated and I am bored with grinding. Plus there are funner XBox games around.
@Gigili But I'm using two different USB drives, and two different kinds of ports!
Oh, dear.
There are 50 policemen with lots of cars and horses in front of my house.
Riot police.
Probably football hooligans.
Today I learned that the Dutch riot police is made up of football hooligans.
I knew you were going to say that.
All part of diversification.
I think they're actually coming after rogue XP users who refuse to bow down to the new Windows 7 gods.
They are certainly truculent and just generally annoying.
I heard them call out "Manchester United".
3:40 PM
@Cerberus Are you sure they weren't calling out "Microsoft Windows"? Probably with some kind of Dutch accent?
It's hard to tell what they mean when all you hear is "Ananas ananas".
Any guess is as good as the next.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You mean Grootenoote Raarepaarden?
That's MS Windows in Dutch.
You misspelled "Gargantua and Pantagruel".
That's the same. The 2005 spelling is still in effect, remember.
When you say "strange" three times, the police will be in front of your house in a minute. A necessary but insufficient condition.
3:44 PM
So they won't come unless I say that?
@Cerberus But in 2005 Not even Windows Vista had been released.
Étrange, étrange, étrange!
@MrShinyandNew安宇 If you follow the rules minutely, they can be applied to new words with 100 % confidence.
@Cerberus I only follow the rules on an hourly basis.
This is an example of a page of the spelling rules.
3:47 PM
@Cerberus Just like Alex's droogs in A Clockwork Orange becoming policemen. "Jobs for them what's of job age," smirks Dim.
It is part of the rules about hyphens.
Hah, did they become policemen? I don't remember that.
I can hear the hooligans chanting all the time.
Now I heard a kind of bang.
Oh, well.
@Cerberus Samenstelling. Hahaha.
@Cerberus at least it wasn't an unkind bang
The pub opposite the street is also full of football supporters.
@RegDwightѬſ道 NOU
@MrShinyandNew安宇 No, all kinds of twinkly stars and fairy dust were generated.
It's supposed to be about spelling rules, yet every single word is awfully misspolen.
3:52 PM
"This is the police speaking. You must leave at once, or violence will be applied."
Directly to forehead?
That's coming out of their megaphones right now.
And again.
"Third and final warning."
Derde en laatste waarschuwing?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well looks like they did mean Cerberus, after all. He is remarkably silent all of a sudden.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Ding!
Oh look who's talking now.
3:56 PM
@Cerberus If we don't hear from you in five minutes we'll assume it's your door they're breaking down.
The lower classes can be so annoying.
@Robusto Very slow jinx.
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Hey, you asked for it.
So these people come to your place, start blathering about "derde waarschuwings", and expect you to not die laughing. Come on, this is straight from Gargantua and Pantagruel.
4:03 PM
It's part of an English sentence.
English sentences follow English rules.
"We have closed off the area. You cannot pass."
Oh, now they are quoting Tolkien!
@RegDwightѬſ道 Your quotation marks precluded that.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Yup, they're all clad in grey.
To be resurrected in white.
Wearing one of the Three.
@Cerberus I can't put quotation marks in the middle of a word, sorry.
You can ping me without @ing me, but you can't even do that?
Can you even fly??
4:05 PM
Hey I'm not taking no critisism from a warshuwing, and a derde one at that.
At least we have words shorter than twenty letters.
Yeah, Tussen and Samen.
They have that in redlight districts here, too.
I am there.
Most of the chanting is coming from the heart of the district.
At least your district has a heart.
And we have a heart for it.
Well, at least this riot is a semi-sufficient excuse not to run.
4:12 PM
@Cerberus but not a semi-sufficient excuse not to run XP?
I will cling to it while everybody else is using Windows Magic 3D to fly to the other end of the universe and end poverty.
Meanwhile, the hooligans are still shouting.
So much for the laatste waarschuwing.
@Cerberus Did you start yelling insults outside your Dutch window at the soccer hooligan police?
@Robusto "Start" would imply that he had made a pause at some point.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Are you implying he was yelling before they arrived? If so, that would explain a lot.
4:27 PM
I am here to explain a lot.
With all your other duties, you still find time for that.
You are an evil person, you know. You got me thinking about taking a break from WMT.
Meh, it's still going on.
But some police cars are leaving.
@RegDwightѬſ道 If anyone ought to take a break, it is I. You have had a few breaks already, most notably your Italian one.
@Cerberus Well it was their last warning.
4:30 PM
It is I? It is me?
@Vitaly well I never forced anyone not to take a break.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Haha yes.
@Gigili "It is I" is the traditional way.
@RegDwightѬſ道 That'll teach them!
A: Which one is correct to say: "It's me" or "It's I"?

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@RegDwightѬſ道 Moi?
4:32 PM
@Cerberus Uhum.
Well, face it. WMT is just another turn around the grinding wheel. At some point one gets fed up and says, "Stop this infernal wheel, I want to get off."
No getting off in this room.
I'm a completionist. My stated goal has always been to collect as many cards as possible. But they just keep adding more.
The cards are worthless outside of the game, which is fair, but they keep losing worth within the game as well.
Wevs. I just want Wasteland Skimmers. :P
Only the old ones. The new ones still look fine and shiny.
4:38 PM
@Vitaly That's my only goal right now as well, but if I am honest to myself, what use are they? Just beating other cards. So the only payout of playing to get them would be that I could play some more.
@Vit: Download has been going fairly well for a while.
Actually I'd like to get the level-150 reward as well, but by the time I'm level 149 they'll introduce a reward for level 200.
It was at 350 Kb/s at some point.
@Cerberus — I can see that. Too bad it isn't going at the full capacity of my connection.
Yeah, odd.
4:40 PM
What's yours BTW?
Download, according to Speedtest ~ 13 Mb/s.
I can't believe it would be only 3 Mbps in the middle of Europe.
Upload 0.85.
It is proof that the "market" does not work.
13 Mbps, huh. What about some other European city? Like, Paris or St. Petersburg?
Here it supposedly depends on how close you are to certain local nodes.
Upload is arbitrarily throttled, obviously.
My official download speed is 20 Mb/s.
4:42 PM
I have a question =\
I mean, what about some other European city for you according to Speedtest?
@Cerberus 70 both ways
@Vitaly Oh, I don't know? Would they give a different result.
4:43 PM
@Cerberus More likely than not.
@Vitaly Very nice. Some 60 or higher subscriptions exist here, but you will never actually get that due to the way the network works.
@Cerberus Well I get it in t all the time. Your case is a weird exception.
@Gigili I'd say ward off.
To ward off x means to fend off x, to protect against x.
@Vitaly It is like that everywhere in Holland.
Perhaps they use extremely cheap and/or old infrastructure.
Q: What is the history of mnemonics and why do they aid in memory?

LookingForHelpWhat is the history of mnemonics? For example, when were they first used? And why do they aid in remembering lists of things?

@Cerberus Great, thank you.
4:45 PM
What kind of cables do they use in Moscow? Here it's plain old copper telephone wires.
At least from my house to some central point.
@Cerberus my ISP uses a fiber-optic cable network, but when a fiber-optic cable enters a building it's split into twisted-pair cables (which support 1 Gbps perfectly well anyway, at least at these lengths)
Ah, then that might be it.
We have no optic cables in the smaller branches of the network.
This is to Paris:
3 Mbps. Right.
Oh, wait, I had my t client on.
Now I'm pausing all but yours.
@Cerberus and the districts in Moscow are connected by 100-Gbps highways 8-)
4:51 PM
This is Petersburg.
@Vitaly Yay!
Commute! Laters.
Paris again:
Well, that is weird indeed.
But I used to get 13 Mb, so perhaps t is interfering.
Upload has always been 0.85.
What ping do you get to Moscow?
4:55 PM
Or perhaps Speedtest is a random number generator.
@Cerberus 1 ms or so
Ah, nice.
This is probably to some place in America.
Some English test ^.
Okay, I have a confession to make: I live on an island in the Pacific.
Aww poor IE.
@Vitaly How to win friends and influence people, step 1: make their facebook stop working.
@Vitaly Funny. Do you think they will succeed? It has never been done.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 It will be attention for the anti-corporate party.
Just like Wikipedia's action, which worked quite well, as predicted.
@Cerberus That was a bit different.
A bit.
It will be taken in the same vein.
@Cerberus some people came close, to a degree (2 of 13 root DNS servers unfunctional in the 2007 attack). and no, i don't think it'll work.
5:17 PM
I will gladly suffer being cut off for the greater good.
In that case Wikipedia shut itself down and blamed the government. In this case criminals will be shutting facebook et al down. They will be blamed themselves.
@Vitaly OK.
hey @Cerberus, Chatzy
9 hours ago, by Jasper Loy
And I do know what science is. I just do not think about things simplistically.
Ugh, really?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I think the "criminals" will be able to get attention to their cause.
Which is a free internet.
5:18 PM
@Cerberus Somehow I don't think attacking the root DNS servers can be properly construed as being in the greater good.
Why not?
@Cerberus If they attack the root servers they will have earned the right to be called criminals, no scare-quotes allowed.
@Cerberus Because the root servers, and the internet at large are not the cause of their so-called problems!
I don't know about that.
Wikipedia wasn't the cause of its problem either.
Let me guess: you don't believe in the concept of computer crime?
I do.
But this is for the greater good.
5:19 PM
@Cerberus Wikipedia SHUT ITSELF down in PROTEST. They didn't attack others
@Cerberus The DNS servers are not part of the problem!
You can't just do whatever you want and claim it's for the greater good!
"I'm going to punch puppies repeatedly, for the greater good, until the government sees things my way!"
In this case, it may be beneficial to mankind.
So vandalizing the internet is not the same thing as protesting!
Please explain how this could possibly work
Socrates is not the same as a man.
People all over the world will face a page that says, "this is how the internet is going to be if ACTA etc. get passed".
That means lots of attention.
The public is already against it; a bit of shaking-up may wake them up.
"OMG I just realized how dependent I am on the internetz."
That is probably their theory.
Although Anonymous probably consists mostly of teenage boys craving for any kind of attention.
5:23 PM
@Cerberus yes, that's exactly what some patients on life-support systems in some hospitals that need internet connection will say when they realize … or not
It's completely flawed. What will instead happen is that people will think "Criminals are hurting the interent, there needs to be a law to stop them"
If vandalism, or its more extreme cousin, terrorism, were good at galvanizing public support, don't you think things would have happened a BIT differently after 9/11?
Shutting down the internet will only harden the resolve of governments to clamp down and turn public opinion away from the criminals.
It would be completely playing into the hands of the government.
It's been done time and time again.
If they go through with this (with any degree of success) this will go down in history as one of the most fucking stupid things any "protesters" have ever done.
Anyway, I'm outta here, it's lunch time
@Vitaly I do not believe those exist. Internet access is lost on a regular basis everywhere.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Could be. I don't know.
@Cerberus ever heard of fallback connections? like, if your optic connection fails, you use a satellite connection
which won't work if the Internet is shut down as a whole
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I don't think most governments really care one way or another: it's just all kinds of lobbies pulling them into different directions. In any case I didn't say I thought this was a good idea; I haven't made up my mind yet. It's just that the notion that there is someone fighting for freedom is in a way appealing, however flawed their approach may be.
though they probably use IP addresses anyway, so they wouldn't need DNS servers
5:30 PM
@Vitaly In that case, wouldn't such fail-safe connections use direct IP access?
Besides, I really don't think there is any life support that depends on internet access.
Why should it?
That's not life support: it is an experiment.
But still!
But still indeed!
It's nice.
By the way, why would Anonymous announce something like this publicly?
It works better if it comes unexpected.
they always do
5:33 PM
Now we can all just download some IP-lookup addons for our browsers.
(And FYI, everyone and his uncle can call themselves Anonymous. That's the idea.)
Which have been developed against SOPA anyway.
@Vitaly Yeah OK, but there are certain more and less prominent individuals, certain patterns...
Like any community.
You could call yourself Anonymous and hack into MrShiny's computer and then publicize it.
I probably couldn't.
How can I improve my vocabulary skills in one day? =\
I have an exam tomorrow and the vocabulary section is extremely difficult
5:44 PM
Oh, dear...
Maybe find a list of words at the right level somewhere and memorize it?
It's not easy to improve unspecified vocabulary in one day.
What is the exam for?
English translation, it's a university entrance exam. (an university? what?)
And English literature.
You can't improve your skills in a day, but you can memorize in a day
A university ("a yooniversity").
The close parenthesis please.
5:50 PM
@Cerberus }
Okay, okay.
But I have the exams which was taken before, at the same time, memorizing all of them would help?
One of them ^.
Could help, but it wading through all those pages would be an inefficient use of your time, probably.
Actually, no that might be a very good idea.
The only thing is you need to look up the ones you don't know yourself.
What if none of them are used in the exam?
Not better to read a book or something?
Like advanced vocabulary by Cambridge University Press.
Oh, could be.
Both could work.
If you have a good vocabulary book, why not use that?
6:00 PM
That is an entrance exam?!
But what if none of the words in the book will be used in for the exam?
Master, yes.
Why oh?
@Gigili That's always the problem with learning vocab.
Well, “entrance exam” doesn't make me think of admissions at the graduate level.
But that's only because we didn't have that in Russia when I was still going to university.
6:07 PM
You mean it looks too advanced?
I am surprised that they expect you to know words like the noun stalwart.
Yeah, it looks too advanced for undergraduate admissions (school to college).
I wonder what university it is for.
Is it a master's in translation or something?
It's not for school to college, Bachelor to master or whatever it's called
If it is a general exam for admittance to any field, and at a university in a non-English-speaking country, it looks quite hard indeed.
It is indeed, especially the vocabulary section.
Actually I took the computer science exam today. The problem is, I think I'll fail.
So I need to pass this one.
It'll be two steps, the results after three months tells information about students rankings. One out of three will get accepted. Then according to the ranking, you should make a list about the universities you'd go.
And you'll wait for the results again.
6:16 PM
can you take the exam again?
At the same time, next year.
Oh, well. If you had had at least a month, I might have recommended some spaced repetition software to cram up on vocabulary, e.g. Anki. But in a day … No idea, really.
So I'll fail. The end.
Other parts are not that hard, cloze passage, reading comprehension, Grammar. But the vocabulary section ..
I'm sure you'll ace the test. Just exclude the options that make the least sense—it's a multiple-choice test after all.
Isn't it more Latin than English?
6:25 PM
Tru dat.
@simchona Yes really. I will not have you insult me like that.
You know what? Three wrong answers will spoil a correct answer.
That is, one cannot make wild guesses.
Strange question.
They probably mean defrost.
Yes, defrost is the correct answer.
But all those words contain derivational affixes.
And -ade is arguably also productive in English.
6:33 PM
No clue, Maybe defrost is the only separable one.
They probably do not consider -ade productive any more.
And what's up with the last page of the exam?
Are those Quran quotations?
Religious quotations.
But what are they doing there?
ahoy hoy
The ability to translate religious texts.
6:37 PM
@simchona If you want to have a discussion on creationism and science with me, by all means. But don't insult my intelligence behind my back like that. I think that is uncalled for.
Doesn't make much sense, but still.
What should I do finally?
@EdGuiness ehey vehey.
@Gigili Wow, you have to do that too?
Is this university in your own country?
It is?
Pretty serious exam!
@simchona I am not sure where I have hurt you, and I am sorry if I did. But please stop hurting me.
6:48 PM
Yes, and if you get accepted to one of the best universities in the capital city you can get admission to study abroad.
@Cerberus, @Vitaly Any ideas? I'm stuck.
I don't think there is a short-cut.
Practising helps.
6:55 PM
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Also applicable to teaching yourself a lot of obscure words in 1 day.
@Vitaly Link?
@Robusto ?
@Vitaly Do you have a link where you got that image?
@Robusto No, sorry, I just googled “xkcd teach yourself c++ in 21 days.” I've seen it many times on different sites.
Though it isn't xkcd, but that seemed a better query than comic.
Looks like it came from here: abstrusegoose.com/249 judging by the signature in the picture and in the footer of the website
@Vit: Thanks.
7:09 PM
@Rob is that you?
May 12 '11 at 21:44, by RegDwight
God. I open up chat, I see XKCD. Why do you hate me?
@RegDwightѬſ道 It's not XKCD.
My point exactly.
If it were XKCD you wouldn't be here anymore. :P
Apr 22 '11 at 21:53, by RegDwight
You post another XKCD, I'll kick you again.
Where the hell is F'x anyway?
I guess I must superping him again. @fx
Has anyone here ever (successfully) used the Amazon Wish List?
7:15 PM
What's with this random starring in the last four hours? I am not aware of a five-year plan we have to fulfill.
But anyway, I'm out for the next 58 minutes. TTYL
@Alenanno You need to publicize it to the group you think is likely to give you presents of course.
@JasperLoy Uhm.
@Alenanno Yes I know I said the obvious.
@JasperLoy It's not that, it's just that I was wondering who'd fit that description... :D
As an interviewee, should I tell the interviewer 'having the interview on tuesday would be nice' or 'doing the interview on tuesday would be nice' when scheduling things?
Capital T for Tuesday, my bad.
7:21 PM
@Jasper you implicitly insulted the rest of us by implying you weren't simplistic but the rest of us were
@simchona That is not my intention. I am sorry if it came across that way.
@jasper no matter. Im just not going to pay attention to what you say.
Could you please explain which form is correct? 'Doing the interview at' or 'Having the interview at'? Or are both correct?
Do you need to use it as a noun?
@simchona Anyway I am sorry if I have hurt you, but please don't hurt me again. All the best to you.
7:30 PM
Why not "Would it be a problem if you interviewed me on Tuesday?", is it bad? :P Just saying...
But I'm no native speaker.
Yes I probably would, as I'm responding to a suggestion which has already been made by my contact.
@alenanno it might sound more formal to say something like "would it be a problem if we held the interview on tuesday"
I went with 'having the interview at <time>'! Thank you for your help anyway :-).
@Vitaly Is who me? Me?
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8:50 PM
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