English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Mahnax

2:01 AM

Matt Эллен

crafty!

Mahnax

Indeed! Not my idea, but still cool!

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Another amazing idea.

Matt Эллен

indeed! very clever :)

Mahnax

I want one, for all those times when my house starts shaking like a thing unfirm.

Matt Эллен

looks quite turbulent at sea!

@Mahnax does this happen a lot?

Mahnax

2:05 AM

@MattЭллен Yes. Should I see a doctor?

Matt Эллен

:O

@Mahnax probably a house doctor

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Haha.

user19161

@matt Happy birthday!

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy thanks :) good to see you!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Nice to see you again! And with the proper username, to boot!

user19161

2:08 AM

Yeah I was just ranting...

user19161

I am a Belieber after all.

user19161

Never say never...

Mahnax

What?

Cerberus

Oops I had to answer the prophecy question.

Vitaly

@Cerberus: acracy/acrasy, apostacy/apostasy, buscy/bussy, dancy/dansy, doncy/donsy, eustacy/eustasy, gaucy/gausy, idiosyncracy/idiosyncrasy, isostacy/isostasy, pancy/pansy, prophecy/prophesy, purcy/pursy, rouncy/rounsy, soncy/sonsy, synracy/syncrasy, theocracy/theocrasy, tincy/tinsy, unsoncy/unsonsy, ycy/ysy.

Matt Эллен

2:10 AM

@Cerberus ace :D

Vitaly

These are all the pairs my 500K+ word list returns. Most of those are either obsolete spellings or totally different words.

Cerberus

@Vitaly Oh! Haha, you have been hard at work!

Vitaly

@Cerberus my regexes have been that :P

Cerberus

Even so!

<.*[aeiouy]cy.*[aeiouy]sy.*$

And the reverse—is that what you searched for?

Vitaly

Nah.

Cerberus

2:13 AM

Are your definitions marked up better?

Vitaly

Eh?

user19161

@cerb You were showing some photos just now eh?

user19161

Did you show them my favourite one?

Cerberus

@Vitaly I mean, this is what I would use on a GD title line, unless the title words and alternative spellings were marked in some uniform way.

@JasperLoy I don't know, just a couple of better and worse ones...

Vitaly

GD title line?

user19161

2:15 AM

@Cerberus You remember my favourite one?

Cerberus

The line that holds the headword in the file of a dictionary in Golden Dictionary.

Vitaly

Eh? I dumped all my headwords (from the DSLs) into a single plain text file.

Cerberus

Oh. I suppose you could do that. It may be faster?

Vitaly

I don't know about faster, but at least it would work. GD doesn't support regexes.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus they were a treat. thank you :)

Vitaly

2:18 AM

Oh, you mean like a string that doesn't start with a space character. Then yes, dumping all headwords would be a lot faster.

Mahnax

Hmm, I will be watching Back to the Future soon.

Vitaly

Especially since it can be done with a simple Perl script.

Mahnax

Bye everyone!

Matt Эллен

cya @Mahnax :)

Cerberus

@Vitaly Yes, although you should count the dumping itself as part of the calculation too.

user19161

2:20 AM

@Mahnax Terrible show.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Your purple/pink wig was quite a treat as well.

Bye Bob!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus lol

user19161

@Cerberus Robusto is Bob.

user19161

Robert=Bob.

Cerberus

Not to me!

user19161

2:21 AM

John=Jack.

Cerberus

Bob is Bob.

@Vitaly Or a simple AHK script!

user19161

In case you forgot @cerb my favourite photo of you is the one in white t-shirt sitting at the table.

Cerberus

So the conclusion is that c/s pairs exist only for those words in which writers were unsure or unaware of whether the Greek word had t or s.

Where they were sure, c or s, respectively, was chosen quite consistently, at some point in time.

user19161

@matt You not sleeoing yet?

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy not yet!

user19161

2:26 AM

@Mahnax Never say never is the title of one of JB's songs and also his movie.

Robusto

@JasperLoy Not true.

user19161

@Robusto Anyway I know about nicknames, but why does it seem common that Roberts are called Bobs and Johns Jacks???

Robusto

@Vit: Which one should I spend stam on?

Vitaly

@Robusto I am not sure myself. Reg has switched to JK, apparently.

Robusto

@JasperLoy Well, you don't know everything about nicknames, clearly, because you said my nickname was Bob.

user19161

2:28 AM

@Robusto Well obviously your nickname is Robusto.

Robusto

No, that's my screen name.

user19161

Or robocop, or robustout.

Vitaly

FFS, rainbow, rainbow, rainbow, rainbow … They have nothing but rainbows.

Matt Эллен

you upset about unicorns, @Vitaly?

Robusto

@Vitaly Think of it as unicorn poop.

Vitaly

2:31 AM

no, about the game; decks that have Atlas or Lucina as commander and have multifaction cards are called rainbows

Matt Эллен

OIC!

user19161

@Vitaly THanks you just taught me ffs.

user19161

I thought FFS=Firefox Shit.

Vitaly

@JasperLoy You are quite welcome!

Robusto

@Vitaly Yes. I call those unicorn poops.

user19161

2:34 AM

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Q: This isn't a duplicate

I asked a question recently about synonyms that appear to be antonyms, and whether there is a specific name for such word pairs. It was closed as a duplicate of a question asking why such words are not opposites. My question does not address the same issue at all; in fact it is based on the fact ...

Robusto

But yeah, they can be vexing.

user19161

There is sth going on there between martha and FF.

user19161

I need to give both of them a Kit Kat.

Matt Эллен

no, FF is quite antagonistic

user19161

Still, they both need a KK now.

Matt Эллен

2:36 AM

I, unlike Cerberus, do not always agree with him either

Robusto

@Vit: 10 ahead of Joe Kings atm.

user19161

I don't need KK, I am a Belieber.

Vitaly

Yeah, I have just spent a bar, too. Won only half the games.

Robusto

FF? Foot Fetish? Frederic Forrest? Franz Ferdinand?

Cerberus

@MattЭллен He "touchéd" me today and changed his down-vote into an up-vote, so apparently it's mutual!

Matt Эллен

2:37 AM

@Cerberus heh that's nice for you :)

user19161

@Cerberus He touched you, where???

Cerberus

But I usually agree with his common-sensical approach, not necessarily with his snarkiness.

@JasperLoy An accent can make a world of difference.

It was about the notwithstanding/withal/therewith (or whatever it was) question.

Robusto

Oh that FF. The "get off my lawn" FF.

user19161

@Cerberus One can also touch another's heart.

user19161

@Robusto Slow.

Robusto

2:39 AM

@JasperLoy That's very ... touching.

Cerberus

Still not with an accent.

user19161

FF only means two thing here. Firefox or fumblefingers.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus Yeah, that's probably what rubs me up the wrong way. I disagree with some of his conclusions too, but more vehemently because of how he phrases them.

Robusto

100 ahead.

@JasperLoy I know. Hence my elaborate avoidance of those in an effort to tell jokes to pineapples.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен As long as it's up!

Robusto

2:41 AM

Let me write it down: Tell no jokes to a pineapple; it wastes your time and it annoys the pineapple.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus you wouldn't want a rub down?

Robusto

@MattЭллен Cerb is capable of rubbing his own, I think.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto aye, I asked what he wants ;)

user19161

No more rubbing in chat!

Cerberus

no comment

Robusto

2:44 AM

Prepositions are important. Big difference between rub down, rub up, rub against, rub out, etc.

Matt Эллен

very true. didn't write something to that effect in an answer recently? Or a comment?

Cerberus

@Robusto Well, there was a time when I couldn't tell you Downton jokes, only a few months ago; but patience paid off.

Robusto

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Q: Where can i find the pronunciation of `Veronika`?

Tried a few sites of name pronunciations , i didn't find the one about Veronika , could anyone help ?

pronunciation

I'm tired of being a pronunciation monkey for pineapples.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен I suppose those are worth more!

Robusto

@Cerberus That's only an illusion. If you wait long enough, patience goes unrewarded.

user19161

2:47 AM

@Robusto Monkeys only eat bananas.

Robusto

@JasperLoy They eat pineapples too.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto good comment.

user19161

@Robusto True, because we all die anyway.

Cerberus

@Robusto I'll take the short-term rewards, here and now.

Memento vivere!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus well, perhaps you could get one for half price

David Wallace

2:48 AM

How does a monkey cut a pineapple open?

user19161

memento is commonly misspelled as momento

Robusto

@Cerberus Whoa, since when did you start going all "show me the money" on our asses?

Matt Эллен

I mean, it would depend on who you asked for one

Cerberus

Hello Dave!

user19161

@DavidWallace Not sure. By the way pineapple in this room also refers to a non-native speaker.

David Wallace

2:49 AM

Really? Any particular etymology?

Robusto

@DavidWallace I give up. How?

Cerberus

@Robusto I would have been more polite had I been a Robin Hood.

user19161

@Cerberus David=Dave. QED.

Matt Эллен

perhaps you know people who would rub you down for free

user19161

@DavidWallace non-native speaker = NNS=ananas=pineapple

Cerberus

2:50 AM

@MattЭллен D'oh, walk into a bar...

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus :D

interesting bars you have

David Wallace

Sorry, @Robusto, I realised after I typed it that it sounded like the first half of a joke. It's actually a serious question; after you said that monkeys eat pineapples, I was having trouble picturing it.

Robusto

Jun 18 '11 at 21:35, by Robusto

Non-native speakers => NNS => ennenness [sounds like] => ananas [funny French association] => pineapple

David Wallace

@Jasper - that's really clever.

Robusto

@DavidWallace A figurative usage.

user19161

2:51 AM

@DavidWallace See more detailed explanation above.

Robusto

You're welcome.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен All bars work like that, especially if you stay till the end on a Saturday night. And, okay, if it's sleazy.

Robusto

May 4 '11 at 12:44, by Robusto

In your case, the species is "Ananas comatosus"

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus they've never worked like that for me.

Cerberus

That's probably because you have some self-respect.

Matt Эллен

2:54 AM

oh :D maybe so

Cerberus

But you could get whatever you wanted if you just let go of that.

Replace "self-respect" with "irrational taboos" if you like.

user19161

@Cerberus So confident?

Matt Эллен

I don't think I could get what I wanted

Cerberus

I'm partial to those taboos too, alas.

user19161

@MattЭллен Good thinking!

Matt Эллен

2:55 AM

but anyway

Cerberus

Well, a rub-down anyway.

Matt Эллен

time for bed

user19161

My favourite pub closed down.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy It's not that hard, I see it all the time!

Robusto

@Cerberus Rubdown Abbey?

Cerberus

2:56 AM

Night Matt!

user19161

@MattЭллен Goodnight!

Matt Эллен

Night Cerb :)

Cerberus

Happy-birdthay dreams!

Matt Эллен

night @JasperLoy

thanks :)

Cerberus

Okay, spelling corrector turns that into happy-go-lucky, so I'm too lazy to fix it by hand.

@Robusto More like Rubdown Alley.

Robusto

2:57 AM

That's right. Light up a room and leave. I should have thought of that.

Apr 18 '11 at 20:56, by Robusto

So now that you've lowered expectations, what's your question?

Cerberus

That was all.

I bet you would have wanted to be the Turkish emissary, though.

Or whatever he was.

I mean, in the Abbey! Unthinkable.

Robusto

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user19161

@robusto You know, your talk of fine boobs that day made me dream of them that night.

Cerberus

Ah I know that one.

Robusto

@JasperLoy Right, blame it on me.

David Wallace

3:01 AM

That's a very odd video.

Robusto

@DavidWallace You've never encountered They Might Be Giants until now?

David Wallace

I've lived a sheltered life.

Robusto

Math will do that to you.

David Wallace

Only if you let it.

Robusto

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Next in our travelogue series.

Seriously, though — what the fuck is Miley Cyrus doing in the suggestions next to that song? And she's doing "Smells Like Teen Spirit"? Someone get me the smelling salts and a fainting couch.

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Is nothing ~~sacred~~ profane?

Cerberus

3:06 AM

@DavidWallace If you don't know TMBG, this is their best song:

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I've never met anyone who didn't like it.

Oops now I've created expectations. Which are always too high. Such is life.

Robusto

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I just needed to obliterate Miley Cyrus. Sorry.

@Cerberus At least in the top five.

Cerberus

For me it's 1.

Robusto

@Cerberus Quick, name four other TMBG songs. You have 15 seconds.

Time's up.

Cerberus

I know only P-man anyway.

Robusto

Seriously, though, where the fuck does Miley Cyrus get off doing Nirvana covers? Makes me want to slap the taste right out of her mouth.

Cerberus

3:11 AM

And you think this makes me click her?

Nah-uh.

Robusto

@Cerberus Then while it's mathematically correct to say it's the TMBG song you like the best, the set of TMBG songs you know contains only one member.

Cerberus

Yes; so?

In fact I have listened to many other songs of theirs, but I forgot their titles, and I didn't like any of them nearly as much.

Robusto

@Cerberus So broaden your horizons. And your musical repertoire.

Cerberus

Broaden my horizons? What if I should fall off the edge of the earth? shudders

No, the old ways are best.

Robusto

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Try this one.

Now you have two.

Cerberus

3:19 AM

Okay that one's pretty good too.

I like the "Stop Rock Video" boards.

Robusto

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Cerberus

And "Say I'm the only b in your bunny? Bonnet? Body?": what is he singing?

Bee?

Robusto

BTW, people, I just voted to delete that "ignorance from apathy" question.

@Cerberus "Not the only bee in your bonnet."

Cerberus

Oh, is it closed already?

Robusto

To "have a bee in one's bonnet" means to be excited about something.

Cerberus

3:21 AM

Ahh yes.

I heard "bunny" before I really listened to the first part, then it stuck.

Robusto

So "say I'm the only bee in your bonnet" means "only be excited about (i.e. in love with) me."

Cerberus

Yeah I got that.

Robusto

I'm not sure you did.

Cerberus

Well, I did, as soon as I realized it was "bee in your bonnet", which you just told me.

Robusto

But use your 20K powers and vote to delete that question too.

Joke question and joke answer. We don't need it. So don't be apathetic. Just get up off your dead butt and do it.

Cerberus

3:25 AM

All right.

Forgot I have 20k now.

Robusto

Good job. Now we just need one more.

Cerberus

I remember when I pushed Kosmo over 10k.

Yes, that honour was mine.

Robusto

@Cerberus I don't think I was on the site then. I didn't show up until three months after ELU was open.

Cerberus

When did it open?

I think I joined in December.

But it was well after that.

Quiz, don't look it up: when was the yo-yo patented?

Vitaly

3:41 AM

@Cerberus the yo-yo's been around for centuries, when you are talking about patents you are most likely to be talking about U.S. patent law, U.S. patent law was introduced in the late 18th century but a lot of patents were destroyed, so my guess is somewhere around the mid-1800s.

Robusto

@Vitaly Yeah, like Russians believe in patent law. <snort>

Cerberus

@Vitaly Very close:

But I didn't know it had been around for centuries!

Robusto

@Cerberus Very close? How could he get any closer?

Cerberus

By naming something like a year or a decade.

Robusto

@Cerberus Mid-1800s and 1856 are equivalent, in my book.

Vitaly

3:45 AM

it says 1866

Cerberus

I read that as 1866 too.

Robusto

Looks like a 5 to me..

Cerberus

But it doesn't matter.

I would have guessed 1966.

Robusto

But I suppose it's a 6.

@Cerberus No way,

Cerberus

But I would have.

Robusto

3:46 AM

yo-yo ORIGIN early 20th cent.: of unknown origin.

Cerberus

I suppose it depends on whether you take the actual name or just the patent for the concept.

Vitaly

@Cerberus i'm pretty sure some BBC series mentioned the yo-yo in the context of British history, more specifically the Victorian era

Cerberus

OK.

Vitaly

you gotta watch some more BBC documentaries ^^

Cerberus

I watch Yes Minister!

But documentaries usually have such a low information:duration ratio.

Robusto

3:49 AM

I was a Duncan Yo-Yo champ in my subdivision. I could do all the tricks: over-the-waterfall, around-the-world, walk-the-dog, even rock-the-cradle.

Cerberus

The series about the solar system was all the rage here last summer.

Vitaly

@Cerberus learning puggle was worth the whole 59 minutes of that one natural history episode

Cerberus

Was it?

It is it worth it to you, then I guess it's worth it to you.

glances at 23.8 GB free space again

Yay!

Robusto

yesterday, by Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 You are easily amused.

Vitaly

@Cerberus Now this here is some philosophy!

Cerberus

3:51 AM

Yup!

If ever there was a fine tautology...

Robusto

I dunno, I still think you can't get much finer than a = a, as far as tautologies go. It's a classic.

Vitaly

You gotta expand that into 20-odd pages and submit that paper to some philosophy journal

I'm sure you'll get a ton of citations in no time

Cerberus

Right, it shouldn't be a comparative.

Long live citation-based funding!

That's actually a funny contamination.

What's the other ingredient?

No, not ingredient...I need a better fit for the metaphor.

Organism?

Ack, this metaphor is unwieldy.

Vitaly

concoctive?

you might as well noun that adjective

Robusto

We're going to lose against Joe Kings.

Cerberus

3:57 AM

Concoctive? I don't quite see it...

I suppose there should be no "other": one thing should always be the germ.

Vitaly

whatever makes up a concoction?

Cerberus

And, in this case, the other thing must be the germ, so "what's the germ?" would have been correct.

Robusto

Anything. That's the beauty of concoctions. They can contain anything.

Vitaly

i'm not sure what you intend to say either

Robusto

Well, spent and out. Night all.

Vitaly

3:58 AM

Night!

Cerberus

Oh, you're thinking of contaminating food?

Night!

No, I think a germ and a body is better.

Because it happens spontaneously.

At least I've always pictures a contamination as such. But I suppose I have no arguments.

Vitaly

PUGGLE!!!

Cerberus

Awww.

You immediately bred one?

Vitaly

what?

Cerberus

You bred a puggly as soon as you learned the word and are now showing us your baby?

I must admit it is cute.

And it resembles a platypus more than when it's grown up.

Vitaly

4:06 AM

you know nothing about cute

this is cute:

Jun 27 '11 at 14:20, by Vitaly

Cerberus

Awww.

What would you do if you found that sitting in your bathroom?

Vitaly

i'd try and buy some speckled feeder roaches

Cerberus

You wouldn't kill it?

Vitaly

are you crazy?

i'd call a vet just in case the spider ate anything toxic, like regular city insects

pet spiders are supposed to feed on specially bred roaches etc

i don't know how i would put him into a terrarium without disturbing him a lot though...

they can become sick and lose their urticating hairs if they are disturbed

Cerberus

4:27 AM

Ah, urticating hairs.

Lovely.

Don't big spiders scare and revolt you?

David Wallace

If it got as far as your bathroom, it's probably eaten loads of regular insects.

Vitaly

@Cerberus i wanted to buy a spider for a pet, but decided not to because of all the mess with breeding roaches to feed it

@DavidWallace not if it escaped from my neighbours, and i live in Moscow, there are a precious few insects here, i rarely if ever see a butterfly

David Wallace

That's really sad.

Cerberus

@Vitaly So do they not scare and revolt you? Or is that part of the fun?

Vitaly

@Cerberus no, they are fascinating

Cerberus

4:34 AM

Just fascinating?

For most people, they are fascinating because they are frightening.

Vitaly

@Cerberus and cute :P

28 mins ago, by Vitaly

this is cute:

Cerberus

You're probably using a strange definition of "cute".

David Wallace

But, @Vitaly, if others didn't find them frightening, would you still find them cute?

Cerberus

Your rebellious mind is more than capable of that.

Vitaly

@DavidWallace absolutely. there's nothing to even be frightened about if you know how venomous a particular spider is, how docile the particular species is, etc, etc. i understand that most humans have that evolutionary adaptation that tells them spider = BAD, though.

Cerberus

4:39 AM

And you don't?

Or have you "conquered" it?

Vitaly

apparently not, i found spiders fascinating as a kid

even before i knew about evolution

when i was about 10, there was a rather large Araneus living at our dacha, and i used to catch butterflies and flies to feed her

Cerberus

Fascinating ≠ unfrightening.

Many children find insects fascinating. I did too.

But not at all frightening or revolting in the least, that is rare, if it exists at all.

And "cute" like a kitten is very strange on its own.

David Wallace

Hey, on topic, I found a closed question on ELU that I think should not have been closed, and I'm thinking of posting on meta. Just wondered if I'm likely to get laughed at.

The question was "meaning of “oz holds the nerve thrill”?"

Sorry, I don't know how to do that "embed the question into the chat message" thing.

Vitaly

just copy the link from the address bar and paste it here as a separate line. it inlines images, questions, youtube videos, and xkcds automatically

David Wallace

Umm, and I have it from a reliable source that being bitten by a Huntsman spider really hurts. So I would avoid this particular species even if it didn't look so damned scary, just because I'm fundamentally chicken. And I know that it's not venomous enough to hurt anyone.

simchona

4:49 AM

@DavidWallace It was mod-closed. I don't think it deserves to be open, frankly.

David Wallace

Yeah, why not?

simchona

It doesn't help other people, it's vague...

David Wallace

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Q: meaning of "oz holds the nerve thrill"?

the day before yesterday when i was reading newspaper then i saw a title Oz(Australia) holds the nerve thrill. in this match Australia beats Sri-lanka in the last movements.so that is why the title i got in news paper what the mean of that.please help me.

meaning vocabulary

simchona

I don't think EL&U should be explaining random newspaper headlines. Especially if the OP can't be bothered to punctuate or capitalize

David Wallace

Umm, I see a whole lot of badly worded headlines like that. It could well be helpful, especially to foreigners, to have some guidance on how to understand them.

Of course, I understand that this site is for language enthusiasts; not an "ESL Help" site.

Cerberus

4:51 AM

> The headline in the Times of India was actually "Oz hold nerve in thriller", meaning that Oz (the Australian cricket team) held their nerve (managed to stay calm and not choke) in (a match which was) a thriller. It is impossible to answer questions that quote sentences incorrectly and ask for their meaning. – ShreevatsaR 6 mins ago

simchona

EL&U is not ESL

@Cerberus Oh. And that.

Cerberus

I would either just keep it closed, or change the title to the correct wording.

simchona

I think the OP needs to learn to ask better questions before any of his questions are reopened.

Cerberus

The correct title would make it OK.

David Wallace

Is it presumptuous of me to assume that the OP is not a native speaker, just because they are from India?

simchona

4:52 AM

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Q: meaning of "pescetarian"?

what is the meaning of the word "pescetarian" . i read this on an article that was about Steave jobs . and there was written as "Steave jobs was pescetarian"? and what is the root of this word?

meaning vocabulary roots

Cerberus

@DavidWallace Not at all.

In any case, his English is bad.

simchona

@DavidWallace That doesn't mean the OP can't capitalize, or do a Google search

Cerberus

But his misquoting the essential part of his question shows that he is also very sloppy.

David Wallace

Yeah, I think that is justification for closure.

simchona

@DavidWallace I know I'm sounding really mean right now, but the fact that this user had three really poor questions in a row doesn't make me super inclined to help him

David Wallace

4:54 AM

But the two sentences in the mod-close message weren't really accurate.

simchona

True, but the close itself was valid. The OP also just edited the title.

David Wallace

The mod said "Please provide more context, as this question cannot be reasonably answered without it", and the OP then provided more context.

simchona

To a still incorrect title.

David Wallace

Oh, I've just realised that the "more context" was provided after the question was already closed.

simchona

Questions can be reopened, but I still don't think it's a good question. If the OP can't edit his title to the correct quote, he's not really improving

I mean, he posted this too:

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Q: meaning of "chase a Crooked Shadow"?

what is the meaning of chasing a crooked shadow? i read it on Times of India news paper, but could not understand it. please someone help me.

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David Wallace

4:56 AM

OK, but if the question had been worded grammatically, and had quoted the headline correctly, I don't think closure would have been justified.

Cerberus

I'm on the fence. I really dislike all his questions, but, if he corrects them properly, I suppose they are legit.

simchona

The pescetarian one isn't legitimate at all

Cerberus

Yeah OK.

But the other two.

simchona

Yeah, the other two would be fine--if he could ask good questions

David Wallace

Even the free-form section of his bio is poorly spelt and hard to parse. I guess that paints him as sloppy. Why should we careful people take the time to help someone who won't take the time to help himself?

Cerberus

4:59 AM

The thing is, begging him to change them or changing them myself is tedious and unfun. Closing them is just less of an effort; and I don't feel like making an effort if he won't.

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