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12:02 AM
Good Night :)
 
I never liked the more modern pieces in orchestra until after we played them for a while. They really grew on me. Nielson's Symphony #3, for example.
@Matt Good night.
 
I say if it ain't Baroque don't fix it.
Good night.
 
@MetaEd 'night.
 
Night!
Haha.
 
Everyone's leaving now?
 
12:04 AM
Modern music is awesome.
 
Like what?
 
I hope you're not going to name Eminem or something like that.
 
Cer, find that link to the David Bedford stuff.
Remember that time I said I was looking for some a capella pieces I liked?
 
@SpareOom Sounds good!
@Robusto Oh, the one you didn't know you could download?
 
I can't search chat on my phone.
 
12:07 AM
Oh, OK. In which room was it?
 
Yes. That one.
 
I forgot where Nielsen was from.
 
Isn't it Nielsen? And isn't he from Denmark?
 
@Robusto I believe you're correct.
 
God, search function sucks.
But I found it.
 
12:11 AM
Sweet. Thanks.
 
@Robusto Do you know the Kings' Singers? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Singers
 
No.
Plus that link is broken.
 
Not to me.
Bye a new phone.
You're pressing fruit, are you?
 
Try that one then.
 
The apostrophe breaks the link.
 
12:18 AM
oh.
 
Can't watch right now. I'm watching a chick flick with my wife, but surreptitiously chatting.
 
Shame on you!
 
Way to go!
 
lol
Good morning @Vitaly Did we wake you with all the music?
 
@SpareOom — Oh, no, I've been listening to 4'33" all along.
 
12:21 AM
Cage.
 
Several times then.
Yeah, I don't care for Cage.
 
@SpareOom Hmm they are singing with a half-German, half-English accent.
Odd.
 
I like what Stravinsky told him about that piece.
 
And it was....<nothing>?
 
What did he tell him?
Back in 10-15 min.
 
12:23 AM
"I hope you will one day produce a similar piece, but of major length."
 
@Cerberus — You misspelled the following:
May 13 '11 at 21:11, by Vitaly
 
@Robusto Haha, excellent.
@Vitaly ""
Many (post-)modernist expressionists come across as extremely self centred to me.
But people listen to them.
 
Or not.
 
They are technically listening.
Just not hearing anything.
 
12:52 AM
I can post screenshots so fast it violates causality. Case in point: see above.
 
@Vitaly Causality stands; and you took only, what, ten screenshots in two minutes?
 
@Cerberus — You are just jealous. You can't violate causality with Zizorz. BOOOYAA!!!
 
But I'll give you that it is probably faster than what any of the others have displayed.
@Vitaly Can too!
Hume turns in grave
 
@Cerberus — The latter part of your assertion is easily disproved by the absence of the “edited” icon.
 
1:09 AM
@Vitaly Oh, right. So you probably copy-pasted an old image you had lying around somewhere from happier days in the WMT room?
I seem to remember something.
 
@Cerberus — Why can't you just use Occam's Razor and accept the simplest explanation? :P
 
@Robusto Nice.
 
@Cerberus — Besides, the old-image hypothesis is just as easily disproved by the fact that the screenshot features my reputation points number, which is the same as my current reputation. You can see it yourself next to my gravatar.
 
@Vitaly That you're God? That thrown up a few nomological danglers...
@Vitaly Ever heard of Photoshop?
 
@Cerberus — No. :PPP
 
1:15 AM
I thought @Vitaly didn't like building up rep. points. He may have had that rep. for months now.
 
@Vitaly It's a shop where you can buy light.
@SpareOom Good point.
 
I like registering accounts on new SE sites though. And it adds 100 rep. points to my chat rep every time.
 
Cheater?
Translated, that means: What a good idea. Why didn't I think of that?
 
:D
 
Heh.
 
1:23 AM
hey @SpareOom, send me a message in GChat. I still don't know what an incoming message looks like.
 
ok. Done.
 
Oh, I see. Thanks.
 
You're welcome.
 
Holla.
 
Woof!
 
1:35 AM
Hi
 
OMG, OMG, OMG. I am having a very happy night.
Thank you for the idea, @MrShiny!
 
Oh?
Is it a sandwich? A girl?
Not <gasp> something computery?
 
Yes. Something computery.
Although a sandwich sounds pretty good too.
Hmm. Maybe a cuppa as well...
MrShiny suggested that I get a job to pay someone else to scan my negatives professionally.
Which gave me the idea that I might trade skilled work with a friend I have that could probably do stuff like this.
He hadn't ever worked with film before, but arranged for me to borrow a scanner that can scan film.
I am using it right now.
does a little dance
 
1:58 AM
Nice!
So you have to do something for this friend in return?
 
Well, a future boon.
I think I will offer to convert his VHS tapes to DVD.
 
Ah, because you have a converter that can do this?
 
Yes. I have a video capture device that I just started using.
 
Hello everyone!
 
Good evening!
 
2:02 AM
Indeed!
 
@Kitḫ Cool!
Hi!
 
Hi!
 
Funny I just came in here to tell you, @Kit, that a photo place in Ontario (Blacks) has a promotion or something for scanning: 400 negatives or 500 photos for $99, includes free memory stick with your scanned images
$99 is a lot cheaper than I was thinking it would be
 
Cool. Any size negatives?
 
@Cerb I found you.
 
2:04 AM
I dunno if there were restrictions
They did slides too, so probably they were flexible.
 
Because this scanner takes forever.
 
what kind is it?
 
Hey @Cerberus, are you interested in that Natural Language Processing online course by Stanford?
 
@Mahnax Oh, noes! What happens now?
 
@Cerberus Nothing, actually.
 
2:07 AM
@Vitaly Hmm I remember you mentioned it...
 
I don't remember mentioning it.
@Cerberus — Anyway, nlp-class.org and “What Background Do I Need? … You should … be able to write programs in Java or Python.” XP
 
But we don't need a course from Stanford to process natural language. We've been doing it since we were toddlers.
 
@Vitaly Hmm I remember someone's mentioning some on-line course at an American university...
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 CanoScan
 
@Vitaly Well, I'm not surprised.
 
2:09 AM
Drambuie ( or ) is a sweet, golden colored 80-proof liqueur made from malt whisky, honey, herbs, and spices. Produced in Broxburn, West Lothian, Scotland, it is served straight, on the rocks, or added to mixed drinks such as the Rusty Nail. In 2009, Drambuie launched The Royal Legacy of 1745, an upscale malt whisky liqueur. The 46% alcohol by volume spirit won the Drinks International Travel Retail Award for Best Travel Retail Drinks Launch at the TFWA, Cannes in October 2009. Etymology The name "Drambuie" may derive from the Scottish Gaelic phrase an dram buidheach, meaning "the dr...
 
@Kitḫ is that your brother?
 
I would have laughed if they had said "AHK required".
 
For anyone wondering wtf “Drambuie” is.
 
I found a fun accessory.
 
2:09 AM
@Kitḫ Awww...
 
@Vitaly Yeah, I know. Hysterical, right? My parents kept vinyl records in them.
LPs.
@Mahnax Those are really handy.
 
@Vitaly What about it? I know Drambuie!
 
@Vitaly who was wondering? Drambuie is really good!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, although now that I look at it, that might be the other brother.
 
@Kitḫ I love 'em. This one is ~5-9000 years old, but still works well.
 
2:10 AM
I need to buy some, I think. Maybe this weekend.....
 
This is pretty good, but I want to scan the whole strip at once.
I wonder if I can do that if I install the rest of the software.
 
@Cerberus No, but I would have if they had said "AK-47 required."
 
@Vitaly They are just great at reading the teleprompter, I must say. One would swear they weren't using one.
 
@Kitḫ Possibly. If the scanner came with film holders, it probably has some shortcuts for scanning entire strips at once
 
@Robusto You're confusing Stanford with the Peshawar madrassa.
 
2:12 AM
@Vitaly I think we're all familiar.
@Cerberus I actually fired an AK-47 a few weeks ago. Can't say I was impressed. It's smaller than I imagined it would be, and you have to get your cheek right down on the stock to fire it, so it blows your ear protection off.
 
@Robusto That is so sexy.
 
@Robusto Why were you firing an AK-47?
 
@Robusto Huh, where did you get to do that?
 
I was firing an AK-47 because my son wanted to go to the range.
 
2:15 AM
Haha.
 
I prefer the AR-10, actually. Much tighter group.
 
@Robusto What's impressive about an AK-47 is how cheap and sturdy they are, not how well they work.
 
A shooting range? I see.
 
Apparently, you can toss an AK into some mud/sand/whatever and it will still work.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, every asshole in the world with an ax to grind seems to have one, so ...
 
2:16 AM
@Cerberus That's something they have in America
@Robusto yeah there are like a bajillion of them out there.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah...I think we have them too?
Do you?
 
I tried to explain to my nephew why he should pick an AK-47 over an M-16, but he wouldn't listen.
Kids these days.
 
@Cerberus :) Yes. Though you're not likely to find fully-automatic weapons there, I don't think.
 
Is an AK-47 fully automatic?
 
2:17 AM
They think they know everything about guns just because they've played SOCOM or whatever the new combat-simulator game is.
 
That means it can fire lots of shots in a row in quick succession, doesn't it?
 
@Kitḫ Well, I know everything about guns because I read it on wikipedia
 
You can switch it to burst.
 
@Cerberus I didn't fire it on full auto. Ammo is expensive.
 
Ah.
Lovely.
 
2:18 AM
@Cerberus as opposed to a semi-automatic which fires one bullet for each pull of the trigger
 
The Adaptive Combat Rifle (ACR) is the production name for an updated version of the Masada Adaptive Combat Weapon System. It is a patent pending self-loading rifle platform designed by Magpul Industries of Erie, Colorado. In late January 2008, Bushmaster entered into a licensing agreement with Magpul whereby Bushmaster would take over production, future development and sales of the Masada. The rifle was initially developed over a period of five months, completely independent of government funding. Prototypes were displayed at the 2007 SHOT Show in Orlando, Florida. Originally scheduled f...
This is the weapon I preferred.
 
I feel the same about guns as a religious person must feel about a figurine of Satan.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah OK, but without reloading?
 
I misspoke when I said AR-10.
 
@Cerberus Right
So like, a typical pistol is semi-automatic
 
Right.
 
2:19 AM
@Robusto Unless you dictate your words to a scribe who then types them for you, I doubt that.
 
actually now I'm suddenly unsure... is "pistol" a technical term for certain kinds of guns? hmmmm
 
Although I believe my father has some 19th-century carabine.
 
@Mahnax Pedant.
 
@Cerberus I feel that little more ever since I avoided watching the video of the kid who accidentally shot himself in the head with an uzi at a gun show.
 
@Cerberus Pistol is a term for handguns.
@Kitḫ Yeah, that was fucked.
 
2:20 AM
@Robusto That's not nice.
Well, maybe it is.
Who knows these days?
 
@Kitḫ Yikes. Yeah, that's awful. Do they let kids touch guns at such shows?
 
He was 11, I think.
His dad said it was OK, but usually the guns aren't loaded.
 
However, I believe I read some statistic somewhere about how countries with very strict anti-gun laws don't always have fewer gun victims.
 
@Kitḫ yeah that was my thought... wtf would the gun be loaded?
 
I can't imagine what possessed the dealer to hand a weapon like that to a kid with bullets in it and the safety off.
 
2:22 AM
Probably a mix-up.
 
@Cerberus Guns don't kill people. People kill people. And so do monkeys (if they have a gun).
 
@Kitḫ Or a really nasty disease.
 
@Cerberus It is probably a mix of factors. Like, if you have gun control laws on the books, but no effective rule of law, then who cares? likewise, if you have no gun control laws, but a strong rule of law and a peaceful population...?
 
Monkeys? Oh yeah. If they scratch you, they can kill you. Most people don't know that.
 
No, the dad was an idiot. You don't let an 8-year-old fire a machine pistol.
 
2:24 AM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Also strict laws, so no weapons safety education.
 
No, the 8-year-old was an idiot. I wouldn't have fired a machine pistol at 8.
 
@Vitaly The dad was the idiot. 8-year-olds don't know any better, unless they're you.
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@Kitḫ Oh my!
 
4 mins ago, by Kitḫ
He was 11, I think.
 
Even more of an idiot then.
 
2:26 AM
even 11 years old, why would he expect that anything bad could happen to him? his DAD was there to protect him!
 
I wasn't saying the kid should have known better. Just that I'm pretty sure he was 11 and not 8.
 
@Kitḫ yeah I was trying to disagree with @Vitaly
 
At the age of 11 you ought to realize most people are idiots. Including dads.
 
And we could always watch the video to see what actually happened, but I don't really want to.
 
@Kitḫ yeah me neither. Now that I'm a parent I hate stuff like that.
anyway, time for me to go.
 
2:28 AM
Bye, thanks!
 
@Kitḫ Yes, but it is sometimes assumed that people in all Western countries have about the same desire for killing others.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 The idea was to compare Western countries, I believe.
Bye!
 
On a lighter note, I made some biscuits earlier.
 
Good!
Did you use leavening?
 
@Mahnax Well done.
 
@Kitḫ I've been making them for years.
@Cerberus Baking powder, haha.
 
2:30 AM
I knew it!
 
@Cerberus It's an Eddie Izzard thing.
 
Who is that again?
 
Jan 7 at 7:48, by Mahnax
@Cerberus I don't know. You can make biscuits with baking powder.
 
@Cerberus Transvestite British comedian. Hilarious.
 
Okay, for all those that disagree that at 8 and 11 you ought to know better, would you describe a 13-year-old kid as an idiot in that case then? A 14-year-old? A 16-year-old? A 20-year-old? At which age do you stop allowing kids to be idiots?
 
2:32 AM
Ah, I remember.
 
Side-by-side comparison.
 
@Vitaly I stopped allowing myself to be an idiot two years ago.
@Robusto Very nice.
 
@Vitaly If you're the dad, you're the one who should know better. I can't believe you're even trying to make this argument.
 
@Robusto — I am not saying the dad wasn't the idiot. I am only saying he wasn't the only idiot. In other words, both were idiots in that story.
 
@Vitaly When you're a kid, you get to be an idiot. Simple as that.
 
2:35 AM
@Vitaly Allowing? I think at some point it's their personal choice, but in the US there at the age of 18 they're legally able to make their own choices. Hopefully however, the parents are teaching them from a young age. That particular parent must have failed. Two idiots involved, and probably 3 - to include the guy who was selling the weapon.
 
But many young children happen to be idiots. It is also part of being a child.
 
@Robusto — Not when I was a kid.
 
Jinx @Vitaly.
 
Many children grow up to be very wise and intelligent even though they are idiots at a young age.
 
When I was eight I got up on the roof of our house with a sheet. I gathered the sheet at the corners and held it over my head and jumped off. I was fucking astonished that I didn't float to the ground with the sheet puffed out as my parachute.
Luckily it was only about a 3-meter drop.
 
2:37 AM
Ah, so that's it.
 
I was enough in fear or respect of my Dad, that I wouldn't do anything idiotic when I was young.
 
fumes
 
Watch out.
 
@Robusto — I wondered if something like that was possible, too, but when I was about 9. Luckily, I consulted a 7th-grade brochure about physics, and figured out it would be impossible. So I haven't attempted to try it.
 
When I was 2 years old, I used to run away as fast as I could at any random moment.
 
2:38 AM
@Vitaly Well, you're just superior in every way. You should upload your brain into a computer or something.
 
Especially towards deep water.
 
BRB
 
@Cerberus I clung to my mother's skirts - no running into the street for me.
 
@SpareOom Oh, no not when there were other people! I was scared of people.
Well, perhaps not at that age yet.
 
It's interesting how H. sapiens get all protective and aggressive when it comes to kids. The kid's being an idiot is almost an impossible option to consider.
 
2:40 AM
As I was (am). Hence, clinging to Mom.
 
@Vitaly So you're saying that a kid doesn't get to be an idiot at any age? How about 4? Or 2? Or six months?
 
@Robusto — No.
17 mins ago, by Vitaly
No, the 8-year-old was an idiot. I wouldn't have fired a machine pistol at 8.
 
@Vitaly Their parents' interference keeps from weeding out the idiots via natural selection?
 
@SpareOom — Exactly. Sometimes the other way round though: an idiot parent ruins a kid's life …
 
@Vitaly How can you be sure that you wouldn't have?
 
2:43 AM
@Vitaly Ah, I was forgetting about The Vitaly Metric. So you're saying that a kid shouldn't get to be an idiot at any age that Vitaly wouldn't have been an idiot?
 
@Robusto — Yes. :P
 
@Vitaly But you haven't published this anywhere, so how are 8-year-olds to know what to do?
 
@Robusto — You can refer them to this chat transcript from now on.
 
@Vitaly I'll agree with that.
 
@Vitaly What, no peer-reviewed journal? Pffft.
 
2:46 AM
@Robusto — Oh come on. You are saying that as if the quality of anything I say doesn't best anything published in peer-reviewed journals.
 
I have learned so much about Vitaly just now. I am almost glad I mentioned that horrible thing.
 
Vanity. Definitely my favorite sin.
 
A is something spoken, written, or done with humorous intention. Jokes may have many different forms, e.g, a single word or a gesture (considered in a particular context), a question-answer, or a whole short story. The word "joke" has . To achieve their end, jokes may employ irony, sarcasm, word play and other devices. Jokes may have a punch line, i.e. an ending to make it humorous. A practical joke or prank differs from a spoken one in that the major component of the humour is physical rather than verbal (for example placing salt in the sugar bowl). Purpose Jokes are typically f...
 
I just found the hair clippings from my brother's first haircut.
@Vitaly Too late. I got you.
 
@Vitaly Back atcha, bud.
 
2:50 AM
:D
Anyway, are we starting a new war in 18 minutes? (Since a few of us seem to be present.)
 
Awesome film, BTW.
 
@Vitaly I'm not sure I can from this computer.
Lemme check.
 
Oh. Never mind then.
 
@Vitaly Fire away.
 
25 mins ago, by Vitaly
At the age of 11 you ought to realize most people are idiots. Including dads.
That one certainly wasn't a joke, though. ^
@Robusto — I hoped you would attack someone. You see, every time I attacked anyone, it was a fail. And your attack succeeded.
 
2:54 AM
@Vitaly Yes, but my attack rate is 100% now. Why would I jeopardize the streak?
 
Because you admit to being an idiot?
 
@Vitaly Tru dat. But that still doesn't absolve the dad.
 
No, it doesn't. I agree there.
 
OK. I can fight.
 
BTW, it's pretty much impossible for anyone, even a dad, not to be an idiot at least part of the time.
 
2:58 AM
Well, with actual tools of murder present, you should try your best not to be an idiot...
 
@Vitaly My point exactly.
 
Okay, so I proposed the idea of starting a new war, Kit let us know that she can fight, and Rob's going to attack someone. Division of labour, piplz.
 
You just want to ruin my streak.
 
Fine. Shall I pick?
I have never done it, and I have no idea what I'm doing.
How bad can it be?
Aww! I just found a print of me with my brothers when I was two.
I have never seen it before.
It's probably been in the envelope this whole time.
 
@Vitaly: Can we beat The Purple Empire? I know they beat us last time.
 
3:09 AM
@Robusto We lost to them 11K to 3K the time before the last, and 7.5K to 3K last time.
So, no way.
We all are going to bed rather soon, so if we are starting a new war, let's pick someone who wouldn't fight back at all.
 
Hmm, all the usual suspects are +1.
 
Oh well. No war then.
 
Yeah, not looking good.
Oh well, let's call it a night. CYAZ tomorrow. I should be around all day, since we're going to get snow. :(
Laterz.
 
Night!
 
Bye @Robusto
 
3:15 AM
That's the one I've been trying to get.
The negative needs cleaning though.
Still, at least it is something.
 
@Kitḫ — Nice. I am told by my mother that at the age of 1, I received a plastic bag as a birthday present from my grandmother on my father's side.
 
What do you use to clean negatives?
 
@SpareOom I'm not sure. I will figure that out later, I suppose.
 
@Vitaly Children love containers as gifts. They can put them on their heads....
 
And do all the work over again.
@Vitaly Sweet.
I wish I had been able to start sooner. I would like to have given my brother all his baby pics on a DVD.
For his birthday, I mean.
I still can give them to him later.
 
3:23 AM
@Vitaly OMG I bet you loved it!
 
@Cerberus — Are you jealous again?
 
Yes!!
 
Oh smudge tool, you are my favorite.
 
3:42 AM
Whose face are you smudging?
 
Just cleaning the dirt off this picture of my brother.
 
Ah.
No healing brush?
 
> research into the topic has shown similarities between people's names and their future careers; for example, the names Dennis and Denise are overepresented among dentists.[14]
… Really?
 
Oh, I have read that too in a paper.
 
Was it well-substantiated?
 
3:44 AM
@Cerberus Dunno, didn't think to look.
 
No, but it was only a newspaper.
 
There's a local podiatrist named Dr. Footer.
 
Oh.
@Cerberus I was quoting this and it links to a paper: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
 
I strongly distrust such conclusions until they have explored the mechanism behind it in a convincing (i.e. tested) way.
 
Damien and Lucifer are over-represented among anti-christs.
 
3:45 AM
@Vitaly And years ago I heard of a proctologist named Lewis Stool.
 
I know two dentists, Dr. Toothaker and Dr. Payne.
 
@Vitaly Perhaps we should read that paper.
@Kitḫ Liar.
 
Ah!
 
@Cerberus Nuh-uh.
 
3:49 AM
@Kitḫ I know two psychologists and they are called I.K. Nowyo-Urgame and Y. Oulie.
 
leo
hi all
 
Hi!
 
'Lo.
 
@Cerberus You know where I live. Look for yourself.
 
> Relative to female lawyers, female dentists were quite a bit more likely to have names that began with the letters Den, chi^2(1) = 4.72, p < .05.
 
leo
3:51 AM
+
 
> On the basis of the observed frequencies for the eight control names, there should have been 65.5 geoscientists named George or Geoffrey in Study 8. The observed number was 93, or about 42% more than the expected value, chi^2(1) < 4.58, p < .05.
 
@Kitḫ Hehe.
So they base this research on just a few names, and tens of dentists are supposed to prove it.
How about if they took a hundred random names and tested then like Denise etc.?
 
Hey! A picture of my mom when she was pregnant. Never seen that one before.
 
I'm sure Latoya will be rare amongst Lawyers.
I'm sorry, but do you find this study convincing?
 
And Condoleeza is pretty rare amongst any profession that doesn't involve walking the street.
 
3:58 AM
Th effect is small, the data few, and not many controls are carried out.
@Kitḫ Oh, is it really a lower-class name?
Then Rice did well.
 
@Cerberus — I find it convincing at p < .05. XP
 
She might as well be named "Latitia Shaniqua."
 
@Cerberus She's the only one I've ever heard of at all.
 
OK.
 
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