Charcoal HQ

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Brick Muscle To be healthy by SarahEVanek on drupal.stackexchange.com

angussidney

!!/pull

Oldskool

@SmokeDetector k

DEAD

11:24 AM

EAT IT, JAN. I FLAGGED FIRST

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 7d9607b (ArtOfCode: Merge pull request #210 from angussidney/patch-6) (running on Raspberry Pi)

Restart: API quota is 7549.

Jan Dvorak

@DEAD yeah? And do you run the feedback userscript?

nom nom nom nom nom

DEAD

@JanDvorak I loaded the flag dialog too fast for the userscript to catch up.

I was told that's a thing.

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak that would be a yes

Jan Dvorak

Drat.

ArtOfCode

11:25 AM

@DEAD nah, userscript was too quick for you. Feedback recorded in MS as from FDSC.

NOOOO

@ArtOfCode 404

I mean YEEEESSS

I swear that post was gone less than 20 seconds after it was posted

DEAD

@Ferrybig Since it's mine

ArtOfCode

11:26 AM

@Ferrybig because you don't have feedback on that post

Jan Dvorak

nom nom nom nom nom

angussidney

Yeah, normal oneboxes are cool, but animated gifs are slightly distracting

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Shortened URL in answer: Show brand on woocommerce product page by Selvam on stackoverflow.com

angussidney

Been there for a year and a half

not sure

Jan Dvorak

any idea where it leads?

DEAD

11:29 AM

Somewhere that doesn't seem to be selling us anything

angussidney

@JanDvorak some somewhat related site

but not too shady

Jan Dvorak

!!/report superuser.com/a/1121119/337631

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Windows Backup fails with 0x80070002: "The system cannot find the file specified" by Caroline Bennett on superuser.com

angussidney

double exclamation mark slash

ArtOfCode

@angussidney well it was deleted quick enough that Smokey hadn't finished connecting to the deletion websocket

SmokeDetector

11:30 AM

tpu- by ArtOfCode

angussidney

@ArtOfCode lol

Jan Dvorak

!!/report superuser.com/questions/1042698/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Block Windows Service Access to Remote SQL Server with Firewall by Levi Brereton on superuser.com

DEAD

@ArtOfCode We're getting dangerously fast

angussidney

@SmokeDetector also, is that spam, or just an 'I found a link when googling hope it helps'

SmokeDetector

11:31 AM

tpu- by angussidney

ArtOfCode

@angussidney links to recovery-tools

i.e. spam

angussidney

didn't know it was a known spam domain

ArtOfCode

@DEAD meh, as long as everyone is actually checking for themselves that it's spam and not just bandwagon-flagging, we're good

angussidney

step in... Ash!

ArtOfCode

@angussidney there's a few like that

DEAD

11:32 AM

@ArtOfCode I know, I meant another kind of 'dangerous'

Ferrybig

@ArtOfCode If you are the last flagger, sometimes it won't send feedback to MS because the page is starting to reload

ArtOfCode

@Ferrybig yeah, not much I can do about that

angussidney

You could get slower internet? That seems to work for me

Ferrybig

at the moment ms, is just faster than SE, so I don't get the problem often, but on my school over the unreliable wifi the problem is greater

Jan Dvorak

@ArtOfCode sync ajax

ugly but works

ArtOfCode

11:34 AM

@angussidney I'm already down at 1.4 MB/s

sd f

angussidney

@ArtOfCode I get closer to 0.6-0.8

SmokeDetector

The quota_remaining property was not in the API response. Error: Violation of backoff parameter.

Backoff received of 10 seconds on request to questions/125573;125586?site=mathematica

angussidney

Again!!?

SmokeDetector

The quota_remaining property was not in the API response. Error: Violation of backoff parameter.

angussidney

cc @undo

ArtOfCode

11:36 AM

shaddap smokey

angussidney

I think we really need to get onto SE about that and ask if there's been any changes to the API

SmokeDetector

The quota_remaining property was not in the API response. Error: Violation of backoff parameter.

Ferrybig

does chat also count as api?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: You may watch that a couple shade by Anclecome1992 on gaming.stackexchange.com (@angussidney)

tpu- by Jan Dvorak

angussidney

@Ferrybig chat is a websocket I think

ArtOfCode

11:38 AM

@angussidney we did, there haven't

@Ferrybig nope

Jan Dvorak

@ArtOfCode could SE tell us by how much it's been undershot?

ArtOfCode

@JanDvorak possibly? Don't know.

angussidney

@ArtOfCode do we currently backoff for exactly 10s or do we do it for a bit more?

ArtOfCode

+1s, I believe

Jan Dvorak

weird

Magisch

11:40 AM

You could try doing +2-5s if that doesnt disrupt flow too much

angussidney

^ yeah

Jan Dvorak

I did notice that these backoff violations come in bunches

angussidney

@JanDvorak I think it's because smokey sends API requests in batches

ArtOfCode

@angussidney fixed

angussidney

bug in the http/https

SmokeDetector

11:44 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: Natural Beauty Secrets by matthewparrish on superuser.com

ArtOfCode

@angussidney status-bydesign

it allows any valid protocol through

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Ferrybig

ArtOfCode

and 'any valid protocol' is any string followed by ://

angussidney

@ArtOfCode ok, would have thought that it would have been an exclusive http or https

Magisch

@ArtOfCode Did you do something to make the userscript load faster?

angussidney

11:45 AM

but that makes sense

DavidPostill

!!/help

SmokeDetector

@DavidPostill I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

ArtOfCode

@angussidney well maybe it should be, but... meh. I'm just relying on Ruby's URI.parse, which lets any protocol through

@Magisch nope

Magisch

cause' it loads before the flag dialog even finished loading now

ArtOfCode

sweet

Jan Dvorak

11:55 AM

Not spam yet, so hold on...

angussidney

@SmokeDetector f

Jan Dvorak

Maybe the guy is genuine about his question, but I'll keep an eye on this post anyways

angussidney

@JanDvorak yeah, but for the moment, f

Ferrybig

Going to add DavidPostill to the privileged user list so he can report and mark reports

ArtOfCode

@Ferrybig yep, no problems with that

angussidney

11:59 AM

@Ferrybig make sure you send him a link to the commands wiki etc

ArtOfCode

@angussidney Smokey'll do that automatically

DavidPostill

@angussidney I have it.

ArtOfCode

though I suppose commands would be useful

SmokeDetector

CI on c4daede succeeded.

angussidney

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

12:05 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev c4daede (Fernando van Loenhout: Added DavidPostill(133966) to the charcoal user list) (running on Raspberry Pi)

Restart: API quota is 7286.

angussidney

@DavidPostill run !!/amiprivileged

DavidPostill

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@DavidPostill Yes, you are a privileged user.

DavidPostill

@angussidney Cool :)

angussidney

@ArtOfCode is there are reason why the default mode when running a command is verbose mode, rather than squash - mode?

ArtOfCode

12:08 PM

shrug

DEAD

@angussidney Sense of security

ArtOfCode

@SmokeDetector you what now

I'm... not even sure what to do with that

DEAD

Accessories, I think

Yvette

@SmokeDetector f possible spam set up

flagged as v low qual

angussidney

:32121674 that question left me with more questions than I had beforehand

Yvette

12:10 PM

so help me anyone posts an ad for watches or you add in a link for watches and this will be nuked as spam. As it is it's off topic — Yvette 13 secs ago

angussidney

sorry Yvette, wrong ping

ArtOfCode

sorry @angussidney you're gonna have to sign up again now that I've relaunched in prod

angussidney

@ArtOfCode sure, that's fine

@ArtOfCode also are you considering manual activation for accounts, or just automatic until abused?

ArtOfCode

@angussidney the latter

Ferrybig

@ArtOfCode Did you realise I also signed up, :P

ArtOfCode

12:12 PM

Manual activation is fine but it's a pain

@Ferrybig no, I didn't :P

Yvette

@ArtOfCode I'm signed up yes?

ArtOfCode

@Yvette shrug are you?

Yvette

are we talking about ms?

with the code?

ArtOfCode

@Yvette no, Ash

Yvette

@ArtOfCode Ash?

ArtOfCode

12:13 PM

stage.artofcode.co.uk:8800 or ash.artofcode.co.uk:8800, depending on which one you can access

angussidney

@Yvette stage.artofcode.co.uk:8800

Yvette

ah tell me if you want me to do something

Ferrybig

It's a system for tracking spam websites, and finally send mails to the hosting companies to take them down

angussidney

Well, we send the emails, not the system

But it assists us

Yvette

ah k, nah, I'll pass, I'm busy enough

angussidney

12:16 PM

Yeah, mainly something for us to give a try, nothing big atm

Anyway, night all

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] All-caps answer, few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer: Being charged for emoticons sent from my nokia lumia by helllo on windowsphone.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Yvette

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Rock Hard Your Girl With Xplosive Vital by derexasevole on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Update field on the same table in MySql db by Janice Calahan on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, non-English link in answer: Why would the government ban flamethrower in zombie apocalypse? by satılık araba on worldbuilding.stackexchange.com (@QPaysTaxes)

tpu- by ArtOfCode on Rock Hard Your Girl With Xplosive Vital

tpu- by ArtOfCode

tpu- by angussidney on Update field on the same table in MySql db

angussidney

Wow, there is a windows phone beta now?

Anyway, actually going now

ArtOfCode

there's been one for ages :)

Ferrybig

We really have the power now, 5 people using the script means that at least 5 people here have flagged

Yvette

;) excellent

ArtOfCode

12:21 PM

2600+ feedbacks through the API, which means 2600+ spam flags

Jan Dvorak

Not on the same post, though

Ferrybig

@ArtOfCode Or rude :)

ArtOfCode

or that

@JanDvorak indeed

that's how to uber-nuke a post

Ferrybig

Or naa, :)

ArtOfCode

spam flag it 2600 times

@Ferrybig aye. But the majority of those feedbacks are red flags.

SmokeDetector

12:30 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: White Light Smile Teeth Whitening Light by armindergill2529 on drupal.stackexchange.com

DavidPostill

hehe Fighting spam since 1997

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/news.admin.net-abuse.email/dave$20po‌still%7Csort:date/news.admin.net-abuse.email/RMsPMb5Ib-o/G37v93zhCsgJ

SmokeDetector

tpu- by Jan Dvorak

ArtOfCode

@Ferrybig Turns out Rails doesn't do CSV by default, but status-completed in JSON instead of CSV.

Jan Dvorak

@DavidPostill nice

ArtOfCode

By the way, not sure if I've mentioned this one yet: to manage the apps that can write to your account with the MS API, go to metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/users/apps, where you can also revoke access if necessary.

DavidPostill

12:36 PM

@JanDvorak Back in the day we used to count spammer kills :)

Jan Dvorak

Today it's Kyll that counts spam

Ferrybig

Today, we make nice graphs from the spam posts

SmokeDetector

12:48 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Windows shows wrong size information of the external hard drive by Eskir on superuser.com

Yvette

12:58 PM

sd why

SmokeDetector

@Yvette [:32122184] Post - Offensive keyword: fucking

Yvette

@SmokeDetector f

Jan Dvorak

Ah, the f word

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: How can I convert my Bitcoin to Western Union urgently? by lophthackers on bitcoin.stackexchange.com

ArtOfCode

sd k

DavidPostill

1:08 PM

@SmokeDetector tp-

SmokeDetector

@DavidPostill: It seems this is your first time sending feedback to SmokeDetector. Make sure you've read the guidance on your privileges, the available commands, and what feedback to use in different situations.

SmokeDetector

1:21 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, link at end of body: blogmium.com/platinum-beaute-se/ by Chris Nels on workplace.stackexchange.com

tpu- by Jan Dvorak

Jan Dvorak

@ArtOfCode ban blogmium.com - it's a spam page, not even an actual blog hosting.

ArtOfCode

!!/test blogmium.com

SmokeDetector

> Would not be caught for title, body, and username.

Jan Dvorak

see above

ArtOfCode

pull when CI passes

SmokeDetector

1:27 PM

CI on 63d10b5 succeeded.

Ferrybig

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 63d10b5 (ArtOfCode: +blogmium.com) (running on Raspberry Pi)

Restart: API quota is 6783.

Backoff received of 10 seconds on request to questions/78022?site=travel

SmokeDetector

1:47 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: I second-hand every action Clariderm cream by Clariderm cream on english.stackexchange.com

DEAD

SD K

djsmiley2k

wow this is really clever

DEAD

Thanks

We want to ensure it becomes sentient and destroys Undo by 2020.

djsmiley2k

:)

SmokeDetector

2:12 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: What's the technical difference between a flash drive and an SSD? by KirillichS on superuser.com

djsmiley2k

@SmokeDetector sppppamy

SmokeDetector

tpu- by ArtOfCode

SmokeDetector

2:35 PM

Backoff received of 10 seconds on request to questions/327904;328103;328101;328105;328106?site=tex

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Making $100,000 USD per month, no idea what to do with it by Rafeeq on money.stackexchange.com

Oldskool

@SmokeDetector k

ArtOfCode

Okay, ash.artofcode.co.uk is working for me now, so DNS caches should have updated by now

SmokeDetector

Backoff received of 10 seconds on request to questions/72251?site=travel

CI on 779b725 succeeded.

hichris123

!!/pull

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 779b725 (hichris1234: Add in automatic backoff when error_id = 502) (running on Raspberry Pi)

Restart: API quota is 6248.

Ferrybig

2:46 PM

@ArtOfCode Both dns of your domain are returning the same result

ArtOfCode

that's... good?

Ferrybig

yes

undo

I might know what's wrong with backoffs. Just a sec.

ArtOfCode

And there we are. Ash should now be running more permanently on ash.artofcode.co.uk

@undo do you remember what process you went through to get metasmoke's SSL cert?

undo

@ArtOfCode LE

@ArtOfCode digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/…

ArtOfCode

2:53 PM

huh, okay, last time I tried that on a rails site it failed miserably

oh, apache

Yeah, I'm just running the raw server

undo

Pushed a thing to Smokey to lock API requests across queues

ArtOfCode

You don't happen to have a guide for getting Apache in front of it too, do you? :)

SmokeDetector

CI on 723608b failed.

undo

Should avoid race conditions where we're given a backoff in one request, but already have another request going out that doesn't know about the backoff.

oh great

flake8, I bet

ArtOfCode

flake8 and a whole load of test failures

undo

2:57 PM

oh, it's an actual bad thing. Nice.

yeah, all one root problem

@ArtOfCode oh, forgot that. I'm running Passenger on it

hichris123

I don't think that's the real issue with backoffs... and adding a lock over everything doesn't seem like a good solution anyway.

SmokeDetector