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5:20 PM

@Zacharee1 I'm on Wind. I don't know if you can roam on that though.

And you will only see that in certain cities.

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Henry WH Hack v2.0

@terdon Is there a secret the mods are not telling us?

Many.

@NathanOsman it's another case of our Verizon phones not supporting the GSM LTE bands, so we're only getting H+, which is terrible here. Does Wind cover Toronto?

O_o

According to Wind's coverage map, you probably aren't even using their towers @NathanOsman

5:33 PM

@Zacharee1 reminds me of US Cellular.

I thought us cell had a lot of coverage in the AZ area

@Zacharee1 I live on the west coast.

We were on them most of the time iirc

@NathanOsman yeah, it's all yellow there

Both Bell and Telus have LTE networks.

A few small areas where it's them

5:35 PM

@Zacharee1 No it's not.

There's a small area around Vancouver that uses their own towers.

@NathanOsman but not I just looked. Are they underselling their coverage?

All the red areas are the heavily populated ones.

Well that looks nothing like what I just saw

You didn't know where to look :D

5:37 PM

Wow, T-Mobile phones have LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17

That's a lot

They only don't have band 29, which the CA carriers use as well

Also, apparently, Rogers has good coverage.

@NathanOsman their website? Maybe the mobile version wasn't updated

@NathanOsman idk if we can roam on them

@Zacharee1 oh interesting. Their LTE coverage is like 3 times that of their voice coverage.

I hadn't noticed that.

Q: Can't watch protected flash videos (nbcsports.com) on chrome in Ubuntu 14.04

Weird

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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5:44 PM

All I know is that Wind is cheap. They are the only company out there not trying to rip people off.

because they probably have like 5 towers :p

They are the only company with coverage on the Canada Line (which runs partly underground) so that part is cool.

and for included coverage in Canada and Mexico (and Rio for the olympics), T-Mobile is doing a good job of fairness

@NathanOsman well apparently T-Mobile roams on them, so if we ever come back to Canada with T-Mobile, we might see Wind

At the rate T-mobile comes up in this chat someone needs to make a T-Mobile to butt script.

@Seth wut

5:47 PM

Or "T-Mobile" to "Hitler" script. That could lead to some interesting sentences.

@NathanOsman well apparently butt roams on them, so if we ever come back to Canada with butt, we might see Wind

> "well apparently Hitler roams on them, so if we ever come back to Canada with Hitler, we might see Wind"

@NathanOsman forgot one

@Zacharee1 fixed

Wow, butt phones have LTE bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,17

5:48 PM

> "and for included coverage in Canada and Mexico (and Rio for the olympics), Hitler is doing a good job of fairness"

oh

Mine is better :D

Let's FOX NEWS this up shall we?

BY ALL MEANS.

Please do.

It's been reported that the CLINTONS are behind the ludicrous number of LTE bands supported by T-Mobile smartphones

5:50 PM

Heh :P

A: Did Donald Trump say republicans are the dumbest voters in the country?

I keep getting interesting answers to my trump question

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My boyfriend and I both heard Donald Trump say these words in an interview on a documentary about Donald Trump's life. We didn't think much of it because people at that time didn't think he'd ever get the Republican nomination. When Donald became a viable candidate, I immediately looked for the v...

now, this may sound great (tons of intl coverage, right?), but this is the Clintons we're talking about

you never know what they're up to

Did Trump say Obama founded IS?

apparently

Yes, and later claimed it was sarcastic.

5:52 PM

is he claiming everything he's said is sarcastic too?

I wish.

Hey, that's what we need to do to T-Mobile.

like his nomination?

you know you've gone too far when your sarcasm is interpreted as sincerity

@NathanOsman what

@jokerdino if only

On the bright side, I now know what to get the Donald for his birthday: a dictionary!

Maybe he can look up what sarcastic means.

heheheheheheh

5:55 PM

> Look, we can change the LTE bands for T-Mobile. That I will tell you. We're changing them, ok? And I understand what you're saying, I hear it all the time. People call me and say "Are the LTE bands really dead?". Thats what they are asking me, its unbelievable. The LTE bands are in big trouble, that I can tell you. But we are going to change them.

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lol

> You know, I don't get as much credit for this as I should - And I mean this - Years ago - YEARS ago! I said ' We need to add more LTE bands!' And now they're gone! I couldn't have been more right, folks. And we will replace these bands with the best bands. The most fastest, smartest LTE bands you have ever seen.

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LOL

crosspost askubuntu.com/questions/811898/… unix.stackexchange.com/questions/303226/…

That's why they're known as Lord Trump Eternal bands, right?

5:58 PM

> Look at Rubio...that lightweight....all he uses is HSDPA+...well not with President Trump...we're going to use good old-fashioned LTE bands...it will be 1000 kilobits of pure speed. It'll be amazing....how do you think I read my news each morning?

With.... GPRS DUN DUNDUN

@Zacharee1 Closed the U&L one

gut

> The previous LTE bands were very bad. Really horrible. I'm a successful businessman. I have several billion dollars in my bank account. I know how to create an LTE band. I know how to change an LTE band very well. I'd do a great job. I'd be very good at it. It would be a beautiful LTE band with lots of speed coming out. You have never seen anything like it.

Okay, that's all I have.

idea!

Trump Madlibs

6:01 PM

Noooooo

I thought H+ was supposed to be way faster than CDMA 3G

That's Bell's H+

shaky CDMA 3G at best

Wow, that's pretty bad.

Wind's H+ is usually around 10-15 Mbps.

You think that's bad

I couldn't even GET a speed test on Telus

Oh my.

It was like EDGE speed, but so unreliable it would cut out before the speed test could even complete

I'm hoping it'll be better in Montreal or QC, but they're also tourist locations, so we'll see

6:13 PM

what band are you using?

Whatever it is for WCDMA

let's see

Oh wait.

I don't think either company is known for good WCDMA coverage.

could be it

it's also really patchy

Telus is known for having the most coverage and Bell for the most LTE coverage.

I moved ~25 feet and I'm down to low H

6:14 PM

So that may explain things a bit.

Luckily, T-Mobile can use both AFAIK'

heey everybody

@Seth I don't see a way to view which bands are in use

you need an app

what app?

6:23 PM

is there anybody who as a decent understanding of openstack on ubuntu?

@Zacharee1 an app :p

can't find anything except TouchWiz dialer codes

@user3892683 not anymore, AFAIK.

There used to be a couple people but they aren't around anymore.

@NathanOsman , I keep hitting a brick wall with installing it. I tried and tried and posted multiple questions on this very forum, but either no response or no answer that solves the problem.

I tried to install it on an Ubuntu server a while back as well and ran into some installation issues.

Everyone is suggesting Juju for running OpenStack these days.

6:33 PM

yeah, same thing here. Also in the installation it gives errors. yes I am using juju. Do u think openstack on ubuntu is worth it or would u use something else? I mean the whole "private cloud" thing really is a cool thing to try out haha.

I've been playing around with CoreOS a lot.

do u like it?

Apart from the lack of distributed storage, it works fairly well at distributing workloads and ensuring services are rescheduled when nodes go down.

I would be using it right now if I could come up with a good idea for storage.

I'm currently taking a look at Ceph.

(And running it by itself in CoreOS.)

Android Dev

@terdon Exercising your dual-mod privileges? :) askubuntu.com/questions/811903/…

Yep

6:38 PM

the force is strong with him

when I look at U&L my off-topic alarm keeps going off at the Mint questions...

:)

Nope, Mint and bugs are both on topic there in the land of candy canes and kernels.

haha I know Mint is on topic, but I didn't know bugs are on topic

Yes, the aversion to bugs is an AU thing.

I got my first ever rep increase on SO this week... I suggested an edit hahaha

Nice! Your meteoric rise here continues though.

6:42 PM

Some of my bugs are wontfix... my machine just wouldn't work without hacker magic I found on the interwebs

Not much work for me in the summer, I can spend happytimes here :)

yeah, I've never understood why AU is so dead set against bugs. People seem to think that posting a workaround here will somehow stop the bug from being reported or something.

I've tried a few times to change that on meta but was overruled so. . .

I'm with you...

A: Should a question asking for a workaround for a problem in an in-development version be closed as off-topic?

See some of the comments here to get a feeling of the community's position:

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Sadly and—in my humble opinion—wrongly, the AU community has decided that workarounds for bugs are off topic. Personally, I've never understood why that is the case since working around bugs is often essential and the only way you can do what you need. Nevertheless, the community's stance here is...

yeah I don't get the reasoning that people will not report bugs because they can fix them... there could be a policy that when posting bug workaround you also link to the report and advise OP to subscribe, mark that it affects them etc

@NathanOsman so u are putting all the pieces together urself? Like storage, networking, etc.

6:51 PM

at least you have 14 upvotes... that's a lot of agree-ers

@Zanna Yeah, that's encouraging. I hadn't looked at that post in a while.

@user3892683 I'm trying to.

Braiam

this is not meant to be rude, but that is so much work! I mean, have u tried other all in one packages?

openstack, does not have real competition right?

@jokerdino what about Braiam?

6:55 PM

Maybe things will change one day

@Zacharee1 bugs, Braiam, meta, bugs, burn, downvotes, bugs, Braiam.

wat

@user3892683 It is a lot of work. It's been a hobby project I've had for a very long time.

But - as is the case with most things - you can't get something for nothing.

You'll either need to invest time or money.

@Zacharee1 mostly same reaction

I am scared of him

6:59 PM

sorry

maybe that's why he was suspended :p

@Zanna Don't be! No user should be scared of any other user. If one is, there is a problem and that's a good time to call the mods in.

@Zacharee1 Maybe if you try doing something, it might work out fine that way.

@NathanOsman true of course about time and money. I sure want to invest time, but the problem is that I have only some basic knowledge on Linux. I am not that experienced. That makes things harder, coz if I dont find an answer to some problems I cant really fix it myself at this time.

Do u know others forums or chats with people with more knowledge about openstack?

@user3892683 Yeah, that's the truth. I'm afraid the only solution is practice. And more research.

@user3892683 I can recommend a couple people to reach out to.

7:01 PM

thanks @terdon :) :) I am always grateful for&to mods

Both are Canonical employees.

that would be great!

Marco Ceppi and Jorge Castro are the people to talk to.

Both are here on Ask Ubuntu but rarely in chat.

@NathanOsman How things have changed.

I'm just trying to think of the best way to contact them...

@jokerdino Yes, I remember those days.

7:02 PM

@jokerdino don't remind me of that

yuck

@jokerdino chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/201/2010/9/29

@NathanOsman Oh man. cries himself to sleep

The three of us were the first chat users.

True true, thanks!

Do u know others forums that could be helpful regarding openstack?

*other

There's Ubuntu Discourse but it's in the process of being shut down, unfortunately :(

discourse.ubuntu.com

I'm afraid that's all I've got.

:(

7:06 PM

u helped me already haha, its just so damn hard to learn for a beginner.

I want to learn, but the resources on troubleshooting are very very limited

Yes, indeed it is. Feel free to ask here though if you have other questions.

I'm more of a programmer than a sysadmin.

But I've done some work with server deployments here and there.

haha me too, I program for android and iOS

Oh cool.

what do u do in programming?

Mostly desktop and server software. I've written a cross-platform network file transfer application called NitroShare.

I've also written an SMTP client in Go.

Plus a few other things here and there.

7:08 PM

ah cool!

I've done a small amount of Android programming.

play.google.com/store/apps/…

is it rude to start a new chat room with those 2 people u sended me? I dont use these chatrooms very often

It's not rude, however, you may have trouble getting their attention.

But it's worth a shot.

You never know.

Q: Openstack install fails because of wrongly specified ubuntu version

Well I would try at least haha

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I followed this tutorial from youtube for openstack on ubuntu (with autopilot): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64HXwmgOQKw I used ubuntu 16.04 for this, everything was working until I typed "sudo openstack-install". The respond of the CLI was that the command was not found. I had tried install...

command-line juju maas openstack openstack-autopilot

maybe someone else sees it and knows the solution

I'll vote it up for you.

7:16 PM

thanks!

@jokerdino oh, right. Sorry :/

[ 6507.513203] usb 2-3: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
[ 6507.649322] usb 2-3: New USB device found, idVendor=1b80, idProduct=e31d
[ 6507.649329] usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=2
[ 6507.649334] usb 2-3: Product: Roxio Video Capture USB
[ 6507.649338] usb 2-3: SerialNumber: 0
[ 6507.696304] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

Anyone know how to turn that into a V4L2 device?

7:57 PM

Alright, I think I figured it out. Have to patch the kernel though.

Once I get it built and tested, I may submit a patch upstream.

Thankfully I have 16 GB of RAM. That should help with compilation.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

8:22 PM

?

why ? @ƎpᴉʇʎXD ? @NathanOsman is just boasting about his mighty RAM and awesome kernel hacking skillz ^_^

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

oh

I wasn't boasting. Just stating what I was up to.

Well it's gonna cost us about $700 to get T-Mobile phones

I know, I'm sorry if that came over wrong, it would be more accurate to say I am envying your mighty RAM and kernel hacking skillz @NathanOsman :)

8:32 PM

@NathanOsman 1337

Anybody using the getdeb repo?

I get a 403 error from it...

BRB. Gotta reboot.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: How to make Brother DCP540CN scanner function in 16.04 LTS by XBurtik XBurtik on askubuntu.com …

8:49 PM

ah funktioniert my favourite German word...

not krankenwagen?

or schmetterling?

not sure why there is a whole untranslated post in German though... would anyone like to fix it? askubuntu.com/a/776004/527764

ah, the pretty schmetterling

@Zanna it's a copypaste from the site

indeed... does that make it OK?

no

check comment

8:52 PM

oh look a shiny new comment

Meghan Trainor - “Me Too” PARODY

►

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Q: Set up arm for local access only

Since two days, I'm running a Tor relay I call charon. I heard about arm that shows you some statistics about your relay, which sounds like a great tool to have. For it to work, you have to enable the ControlPort, which is a password-protected way to control your relay from the outside. I have t...

relays

@Zanna translated

@Zacharee1 I really wonder why the English decided to call that animal a butterfly.

@ByteCommander better than schmetterling

9:08 PM

Are you sure?

haha thanks @ByteCommander

Argv, 50kb/s network speed is awful.

I like the Spanish word... mariposa?

Sounds nice, but I can't identify what it's composed of.

same, no Spanish here

Q: Getting 403-Forbidden error from GetDeb.net repository

9:10 PM

Any ideas here btw? 3 views in 25 minutes is not really promising...

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Here is my (shortened) output of sudo apt update on 16.04: [...] Ign:2 http://screenshots.getdeb.net xenial-getdeb InRelease [...] Err:13 http://screenshots.getdeb.net xenial-getdeb Release 403 Fo...

apt repository software-sources

And I'm still suffering from a not working cryptswap and a messed up lo (loopback) network interface.

I upvoted already... no idea

did you get any answer about that RTNETLINK File exists failed to bring up lo question?

oh I see you didn't

rtnetlink? I believe that wasn't mentioned anywhere...

I would add a bounty on that one, but I'll be on vacation for the next two weeks so I could not award it...

it is mentioned I believe...

Aug 10 22:57:45 BC-AlkaliMetal systemd[1]: Starting Raise network interfaces...
Aug 10 22:57:45 BC-AlkaliMetal ifup[4424]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
Aug 10 22:57:45 BC-AlkaliMetal ifup[4424]: Failed to bring up lo.

I was investigating something similar the day before

Ah. I oversaw that obviously.

I found some interesting stuff serverfault.com/questions/601450/…

I think in the past that error was caused by duplicate entries in /etc/network/interfaces

but I don't think that file is used under systemd? I may very well be totally wrong

and this serverfault.com/questions/403969/failed-to-bring-up-wlan0

may be no use at all

but possibly may give some insight

I should have commented perhaps (I'm the one who upvoted your post)

but as usual I thought something like 'my meagre knowledge will be worthless here'

9:20 PM

Bot both of them are about physical network interfaces which also have ip routes.

I have thos problem with the lo interface which should not have any route.

I know, it's very weird

And it started when I rebooted after having configured that cryptswap device which does not show up.

here's the other post related to that message raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/13895/… which I think is also not helpful haha

I think you will puzzle out the answer :)

Blazing fast

Still faster than my WiFi here.

I have to dance around in my room with my notebook to get more than 50 kB/s...

9:26 PM

ugh >_<

Seriously, I thought GSM was supposed to be superior to CDMA. Bell isn't doing a good job of living up to the promise.

@ByteCommander but how stable is your wifi? This is dropping out all the time.

Sometimes I find a small spot with 500 kB/s, but if somebody just moves a leg or so, it'S gone again.

Lol

Have you thought about getting a repeater?

Or a LAN cable?

The router is fine and provides a stable signal, I think. Problem is that it's in the basement on the other side of the house.

Why would you do that?

9:28 PM

Because that's where the signal comes in.

We have internet via TV cable.

Why would you have an AP in one end of the basement of a house?

6 mins ago, by Byte Commander

Because that's where the signal comes in.

It's a cable modem and wifi router in one device.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

BBl

BBL*

Why does ﷽ not display properly in my browser? I only see a square with [FDFD] in it. Do I need a special font installed for that?

@ByteCommander depends. it could be an actual HEX FDFD :+)

looks like it is arabic though

ARABIC LIGATURE BISMILLAH AR-RAHMAN AR-RAHEEM

is the actual name of it. so add arabic to your languages ;)

9:43 PM

...

What font package would that be?

nooooooooooo idea :D

I wonder if sudo apt install fonts-* would harm anything...

I doubt there is even 1 arabic :P

doesn't display for me either.

@ByteCommander dont :D use the GUI ;-)

9:45 PM

What GUI?

that is FDFD ^^

Aha...

@ByteCommander languages :-)

that should add the fonts. arabic should be a font(?) and not letters.

That's not arabic.

htmlescape.net/fd/…

:=)

user136984

9:46 PM

Oh dear, I just caused a StackOverflow in my code! :D

gratz!

user136984

Does anyone here know anything about extending things in Java?

user136984

Because what I am trying so far is not working with the JTable at least...

Ah that's what I'm talking about

Made it wcdma preferred and went into the city

Whoa, this is cool! luke.deentaylor.com/wikipedia

user136984

10:12 PM

Linux security backfires: Flaw lets hackers inject malware into downloads, disrupt Tor users, etc

user136984

Someone should star that ^^.

user136984

It's a major vulnerability without a fix yet.

ARGV, I hate CouldFlare's Captchas everywhere!

@ParanoidPanda Isn't "the register" a satiric website?

user136984

@ByteCommander: Uhm... I don't know, but I've found the news elsewhere.

user136984

Did you star it?

10:18 PM

I did.

user136984

@ByteCommander: Maybe you could unstar it then and star this instead:

user136984

Linux TCP flaw lets 'anyone' hijack Internet traffic

Q: Is there a workaround for the RFC 5961 TCP flaw?

ok

user136984

Thanks! :)

user136984

10:37 PM

As I think it's quite important I've created a Q&A here with a workaround:

user136984

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I recently read about this Linux TCP flaw which allows an attacker to break or hijack a connection between two machines running Linux (for instance a webserver and a client). Currently a fix for this has not been released (as the time of this writing), but are there any workarounds as this is qui...

networking security

user136984

I'll be implementing that in my system now...

Applied it as well.

I would be happier to fix some of my other problems though, like the cryptswap.

@ParanoidPanda Do you have experience with encrypted swap?

user136984

@ByteCommander: Not really... Doesn't full disk encryption encrypt the swap too?

I have no full disk encryption.

But I think so. Else it would not be full disk.

user136984

10:47 PM

Well, maybe you should get that. ;)

Too much hassle.

Probably I'll even return to standard swap if nobody is able to solve this.

user136984

I'd be worried I'd forget the password... :D

user136984

I already nearly got locked out of my BIOS once... :D

user136984

Why do you need to encrypt the swap?

user136984

And what problem do you face anyway?

user136984

10:51 PM

@NathanOsman: Do you have a Linux server?

Yes.

user136984

Eek.

user136984

The impact of this is going to be really wide.

user136984

@Nathan: Have you implemented the workaround for the Linux TCP flaw?

user136984

Right, well, hope everybody does it by the morning...

user136984

10:54 PM

Goodnight! :)

@ParanoidPanda Not yet.

Aw man. There goes nearly 600 days of uptime.

Argh. And VLC doesn't let you stream and display output at the same time even though it claims to. All I get is the first frame frozen. Even the the streaming works.

Abhishek Bhatia

hi!

I trying to install a scanner
the doc says " Add the following device information at the device information area in the /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules"
the file looks like https://bpaste.net/show/1aee9e364b0d and info add- # Panasonic MFS scanners ATTRS{idVendor}=="04da", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes"
where should I add it