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7:00 AM
SHIT i fiexd it but i broke another thing
i am idiot
>_> this is why goats should stick to eating tin cans rather than cheese making
 
@Downgoat For fuck's sake, sqrt(2) is not rational.
 
@LeakyNun [tag:blame-@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ]
 
@Downgoat lmao
 
I'll open an issue an assign it to him
oh he's not a collabortaor :/
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ I've invited you to cheddar-lang GH org, please accept invite
 
@Downgoat You should totally make an "Algebraic"
Also, why is rational before bignum?
 
7:09 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ do you mind making a bignum lib for cheddar >_>
okay, deloying to coveralls and then cheese should be fixed
 
@Downgoat It would need to override + and * and stuff
 
yeah, but that's easy
 
I think I can make it
I've written bignum in Java before
But I don't have the time so I'll pass to @ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ
> The OEIS may be off the air next weekend August 20 and 21 so that we can upgrade the server. There may be further interruptions later.
one day earlier:
> The OEIS may be off the air this weekend August 13 to 14 so that we can upgrade the server. There may be further interruptions later.
 
@Dennis @LeakyNun fixed cheddar npm! should be able to install latest version correctly now with npm install -g cheddar-lang
 
Hey guys
 
7:21 AM
@Zizouz212 bonjour
 
omg I tried to read that in English -_-
bun jour to you too :)
 
C:\Users\XXX>npm install -g cheddar-lang
npm WARN enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 'C:\Users\XXX\A
ppData\Local\Temp\npm-3908-ee41ae70\unpack-1e2a32fc\node_modules\shoco\package.j
son'
npm WARN enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, open 'C:\Users\XXX\A
ppData\Local\Temp\npm-3908-ee41ae70\unpack-1e2a32fc\node_modules\prompt-sync\pac
kage.json'
npm ERR! Windows_NT 6.1.7601
npm ERR! argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node.exe" "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\
node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "install" "-g" "cheddar-lang"
@Downgoat
 
oh god wat
:/ well its really late and i need to wake up early tomorrow, ill fix in morning
 
Enoent is raised with something else..
 
gnight, bai! .o/
 
7:23 AM
dependency?
@Downgoat What is your npm and node version
 
@Downgoat Oh my goodnessss! Help me go to sleep! It's 3:23 AM, I can't sleep, and I'm in a chatroom!
 
7:35 AM
How does JS store the codepoints of each character? 8-bit? 16-bit? 32-bit? float?
 
@LeakyNun UTF-8
 
@ASCII-only interesting
 
Well, at least I'm pretty sure
 
@LeakyNun Internally, UCS-2 or UTF-16.
 
my bad
@LeakyNun wat float?
 
7:38 AM
@ASCII-only all integers are floats in javascript
@Dennis because I'm considering to build bignum based on strings
since integers are floats
and I don't like floats
 
@LeakyNun in JS?
 
@ASCII-only yes
> "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."
 
@LeakyNun use this, uses arrays
 
@Downgoat (see above)
@ASCII-only string is just char array
 
or if you want a faster implementation use asmcrypto's
@LeakyNun not really that simple in JS
they're immutable, meaning really slow
 
7:40 AM
oh, right
 
also there will be too many charcodeat and stuff
 
7:58 AM
how did dennis do it in 6 bytes!
 
8:17 AM
@miles do what
 
zhqt might be the answer
here is another method
 
lmao, keep getting 9 bytes
 
HI
 
1500 rep \o/
2
TIL training Dasher on a binary file is a bad idea
 
8:41 AM
what is Dasher lol
 
@miles link?
 
CMC: dot product
 
interesting
 
8:47 AM
@LeakyNun Mathematica, 1 byte: .
 
[-3,0,2]dot[1,2,3] == 3
 
Neoscript, 1 byte (not yet implemented but planned): .
 
halp how do i encrypt stuff, do i use scrypt for a verifiable hash and any algorithm to encrypt?
 
@ASCII-only nice
 
@LeakyNun :P I only know from Martin I think commenting on Helka thinking Mathematica had namespacing
 
8:50 AM
@miles Yeah, I'm stuck on that one too :p
 
what is the precedence of a dot product?
 
@muddyfish @ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ @AlexA. @Quill @GamrCorps I need your email address. Please send it to minxomat[at]gmail.com.
 
ow are you
how*
 
8:51 AM
You can edit messages with the UP arrow key.
But fine, ty.
 
@mınxomaτ i know
@mınxomaτ mine??
 
Did RikerW change their username? I can't ping or find them.
 
i dont know
 
@microbuster Huh? Are you one of the people I pinged?
 
@Adnan it's definitely a tricky one
 
8:54 AM
@mınxomaτ nope
 
@mınxomaτ @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ
 
Also, that mess of greek letters is LegionMammal, right?
 
@mınxomaτ Yes
 
how do I use dasher?
 
@ASCII-only Kind of ironic that you replied :D
 
8:58 AM
@DestructibleWatermelon click to start to type, and use the mouse to move the cursor
 
why isn't it typing anything?
how to actually type?
 
when the cursor go over a square, the title of this square is added to the text window at the top
 
I'm on mac...
 
there is no text window
 
8:59 AM
screenshot?
 
I like how they have newbie tips but nothing about how to get the program to actually write anything
 
on my computer it look like this
 
this is actually ridiculous that they hAVE NO WAY TO SAY THIS IS HOW TO MAKE THIS TEXT EDITOR EDIT TEXT
WHY CAN'T THEY JUST INCLUDE A THING THAT SAYS HOW IT MAKES TEXT
WHY?
 
9:04 AM
neoscript> [-3 0 2].[1 2 3]
Error: Unknow NUD for '-'
wat
 
y u do dis inference group ;_; eejuts
 
>_>
i am stupid
 
> Unknow
 
neoscript> [-3 0 2].[1 2 3]
3
\o/
 
stupid inference group
I hate them now
 
9:07 AM
but Dasher is cool ;_;
 
BUT IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING
IT DOESN'T TYPE TEXT
 
because you are on mac...
i just remembered
i still need to fix the parser
brb
 
STUPID INFERENCE GROUPS STUPID PROGRAMS
 
@DestructibleWatermelon which items are in dropdown?
 
neoscript> if 1
Error: Unknow NUD for 'undefined'
    at undeferror (D:\Neoscript\src\parser.js:39:15)
    at Object.PARSER.expression (D:\Neoscript\src\parser.js:251:20)
    at parseone (D:\Neoscript\src\parser.js:349:39)
    at parseuntil (D:\Neoscript\src\parser.js:365:18)
    at parseone (D:\Neoscript\src\parser.js:298:59)
    at parse (D:\Neoscript\src\parser.js:357:18)
    at compile (D:\Neoscript\src\neoscript.js:22:15)
    at Object.<anonymous> (D:\Neoscript\src\neoscript.js:49:18)
    at Module._compile (module.js:541:32)
still need to fix some things but it's near OK
 
9:13 AM
Wait a second
It was actually shitty text edit's fault
Works fine in firefox, but textedit just sucks I guess
I retract my statements about inference group, and direct them at text edit
where is the space character ._.
 
white squares
 
But I can't find any blank squares `n`
 
@TùxCräftîñg try coding parser in C, like Python lel
 
How do i reset dasher's learning?
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei C dont have regexs
and creating a parse tree is... funny
 
9:19 AM
@TùxCräftîñg Try PEG.js. :3
 
why?
my homemade parser is good
 
@TùxCräftîñg POSIX regexec()
 
18 secs ago, by TùxCräftîñg
my homemade parser is good
 
@TùxCräftîñg Please don't reply with message one boxes
 
9:20 AM
35 secs ago, by zyabin101
@TùxCräftîñg Please don't reply with message one boxes
 
Today is International Lefthanders Day
 
pushed Neoscript
 
looked random word
> takfiris: Plural form of takfiri.
Wow, wordnik, that was real helpful!
 
9:29 AM
 
I need to make an esolang so that I don't answer in python all the time but I can't make one because I don't have any good simple ideas ;_;
worth making anyway
 
try neoscript
 
;_;
but it have dot product
 
I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR DAMN DOT PRODUCTS
2
 
9:33 AM
and it compile to javascript
and it have ranges
 
ʜᴀʟᴘ
 
wat do you need ʜᴀʟᴘ with?
 
9:36 AM
ɪᴅᴋ
5 pings in less than 30 seconds
 
@Downgoat looks not too bad
 
@TùxCräftîñg regex.h
 
10:52 AM
:/
i need to rewrite the Function and Lambda transpilers
because i am stupid
> The bind() function creates a new bound function (BF). A BF is an exotic function object (term from ECMAScript 6) that wraps the original function object.
 
11:13 AM
exotic
 
11:25 AM
Are you talking about ingress?
 
No, Pokemon GO
 
@flawr Nope.
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Ingress is all about exotic matter.
 
@flawr oh i didn't get the joke:(
 
Go play ingress then.=)
And you'll notice that pokemon go is just a cheap knock-off of ingress
 
11:30 AM
i should really start a doc for Neoscript
 
i meant, i didn't get the joke when you wrote ıngress.
Now i get it:(:(
i play ingress but it's too hot here so i can't now
 
a dotless ı
 
Hehe
İ hate my phone's keyboard
 
y u know, you can disable autocorrect
 
İt helps when i write turkish
 
11:37 AM
omg
GH dont jQuery
 
@flawr while its true. Pokemon Go is still in development with new features coming nicely
specially 1 on 1. which ingress never had.
 
> This challenge is based on a chat mini challenge by Helka Homba, which is allowed to be used in real challenges under the Calvin's Hobbies Public License.
 
but Calvin's Hobbies Public License has expired
when he changed name to Helka Homba
 
I have to annoy Helka now?
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

flawrConnect the Dots programming-challenge algorithm graphical-output Given a black and white image with a white background and a set of black dots, paint a set of white pixels in red such that there is a path between each pair of black pixels. A path is a set of connected pixels (8-neighbourhood c...

 
11:50 AM
yes
 
@HelkaHomba Is your license still active?
 
12:07 PM
I love my job. On almost 70% of servers of all the companies we audit, we find some form of cracked software. Mostly Windows Enterprise copies and Adobe CC cracks.
4
And that's without any access given. This is purely a blackbox process.
 
@flawr how suboptimal may my submissions be?
 
@mınxomaτ ...what exactly is your job?
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala As suboptimal as they want. But they'll score worse the more suboptimal they are.
@RohanJhunjhunwala I updated my it.
@trichoplax ^
@mınxomaτ So what exactly do you do on your job?
 
12:30 PM
I run a company that does Big Data analytics. The analysis is focused on security.
So instead of looking at the company (pentest), we are filtering data traffic provided by our own crawlers and upstream providers to find risks. That could be a planned attack, leaked documents, other sensitive meta-data etc. Basically XKeyscore, but legal.
 
0
Q: Does ART Inc. really exist and what is it?

Mega ManAt the answer http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/17107/53416, the code is just a joke. This is easy to see, just clears the screen and waits for the keypress or something like that. But in the answer, Gilles talks about "ZOG C" and the "ART DS9000". I wouldn't ask this question if there wouldn't...

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Q: Community Moderator Removing Sandbox featured tag

Rohan JhunjhunwalaIf you look in the sandbox edit history there seems to be a long chain of edits where the community moderator removes the featured tag, and a trusted moderator replaces it. This is similar to the issue with it being protected. Is it possible to prevent the community moderator from editing the san...

 
@mınxomaτ sent, and yeah, I'm Riker W[redacted].
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Please send me your mail address, too.
 
12:47 PM
@mınxomaτ What for?
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Podcast.
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Got it. Now only @Quill @GamrCorps and @AlexA. are missing.
 
The current history of me dealing with Amazon Customer Service reps:
Mon, Aug 08:
"Please try again over the next few hours. Errors like this [an HTTP 503 on a subdomain] are usually corrected shortly after they're reported."
Fri, Aug 12:
"I need to look into the problem with the website and it'll take a bit more time than usual. I just wanted to let you know I'll write back in 2-3 business days with more information."
Tue, Aug 16:
Who knows!
 
1:02 PM
We'll have your problem fixed in 6-8 weeks - if not longer!
 
Riker Wredacted?
2
 
@trichoplax can you please add to the sandbox
 
@trichoplax pretty much, I had to ask for an update for the second rep to respond...
 
W is silent
 
1:03 PM
@flawr Needs a PPCG mod
 
ah...
 
I can do chat modding, but not site modding outside my home site
 
@Optimizer yes
 
I've voted to close this as off topic for meta, but incidentally, does anyone have any idea what this is about?
 
?
he's asking whether the automatic-unfeaturing can be stoppd
 
1:13 PM
Me? I linked to the other meta post...
 
:)
I have no problem with the one about the sandbox
 
1:30 PM
A ΡPCG User Who Cracks This Μessage Εarns A Βatch Οf Cookies. Ιpsum Αmet, Αdipiscing Εlit, Sed Εiusmod Τempor Incididunt Εt Μagna Αliqua. Ut Enim Αd Μinim Veniam, Quis Νostrud Εxercitation Νisi Ut Αliquip Εx Εa Commodo Consequat. Αute Irure Dolor Ιn Ιn Voluptate Velit Esse Cillum Εu Fugiat Νulla Ρariatur. Εxcepteur Sint Οccaecat Cupidatat Non Proident, Ιn Οfficia Μollit Anim Id Εst. Ιpsum Dolor Sit Αmet, Consectetur Adipiscing Elit, Sed Εiusmod.
2
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Lorem Ipsum?
 
@zyabin101 look further
 
Ipsum?
 
IA,AE,SETIEMA.UEAMV,QNENUAEECC.AIDIIVVECEFNP.ESOCNP,IOMAIE.IDSA,CAE,SE.
 
1:41 PM
try rot13
 
@TùxCräftîñg On these first letters?
 
@TùxCräftîñg VN,NR,FRGVRZN.HRNZI,DARAHNRRPP.NVQVVIIRPRSAC.RFBPAC,VBZNVR.VQFN,PNR,FR.
 
1:48 PM
Only hint: The solution depends on all sentences in the message.
 
I bet it is another rickroll...
 
Bizarrely, there is no Lorem Ipsum entry on esolangs.org
 
2:00 PM
@ConorO'Brien time to make one
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I actually know what your last name is. :P
 
ik
that's fine
i just try to avoid spreading it
 
Don't worry, I won't
 
user image
3
Neoscript logo
 
@TùxCräftîñg {|Neo∫cript}
Or {|N∫}, for short.
 
@flawr Wow, owlturd is amazing. How have I not read that before?
 
I think it is quite new.
 
@flawr FP was in 2013.
 
 
Question: Is No Man's Sky available on Steam?
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Yes
 
k, gonna go get it
 
Guess the doodle sport of the day :3
 
Turns out writing a custom TCP/IP stack is a really easy way to crash data center routers.
 
2:56 PM
No answer. It's gymnastics
 
@mınxomaτ I've done that. It was fun, but really hard and buggy
 
@mınxomaτ just sent you the email.
 
Actually, I suppose that's not quite true, I wrote TCP/IP firmware, but used an existing stack
 
@DJMcMayhem I wrote that for a beta version of a crawler we use to get past the ~2M packets/second bottleneck on non-Intel NICs. It crashed almost all routers I've tested or severely impacted traffic on other ports.
@GamrCorps Got it.
 
@TùxCräftîñg Why HiggsBot is here?
 
3:07 PM
forget to leave
 
goodbye
 
3:18 PM
@Quill you owe minxomat an email.
 
Just started NMS, all the plants here are carbon :/
 
@mınxomaτ Wow. That's actually really funny. The only stuff I've done that's heavily into TCP/IP is on a totally different scale. Like maybe 5-10 packets/second, so we just stuck with lwip
 
Now a sentinel refuses to leave me alone
 
because of you i want to play NMS ;_;
 
3:28 PM
@DJMcMayhem I love the Intel GbE NICs. There's a custom linux driver (PF_RING) that allows 10Mpps. However, almost no data center lets us deploy these servers (because they basically need one whole router each).
 
@mınxomaτ where are you located at ?>
 
Germany
 
hm.
 
But the production servers are deployed all over the world to prevent geo-bias, of course.
That's why I need to write a workaround for the servers one can lease in most data centers.
 
@TùxCräftîñg looks cool but -1 for no cheese
 
3:32 PM
;_;
it's not a cheese-based lang
 
@mınxomaτ So you're writing code for servers?
 
@DJMcMayhem Well, I created the network architecture in 2012 and I'm still responsible for it. But to save us money, I try new ways to get the last drop of performance out of existing servers.
 
OK interesting.
 
And because I'm a low level dev, I hack away at the stack. I wouldn't ever touch the database servers :D
 
What I'm doing is completely different
 
3:35 PM
What are you doing?
:31668900 My layout just kept randomly switching between US and DE.
 
wat i dont receive notifications for pings
 
@TùxCräftîñg Because you probably removed the message before I posted that
 
@mınxomaτ This client has a motion control system that communicates over serial (rs 485) and a servo motor that communicates over ethernet, so we're design a board to be the MiTM to allow communication.
The motor uses TCP
 
I tried switching between US/DE/ES for a while. Then I just set everything to US international and forgot other layouts existed.
 
even better: ɐ compose key
 
3:39 PM
@Dennis I have it set to DE. It switched itself to US. Dunno why.
@DJMcMayhem So, a Terminal Server, but for motor control?
 
@zyabin101 that's trampoline, not gymnastics
 
gymnastics ∋ trampoline
 
@mınxomaτ Uh, I guess? It's really a box that you plug a serial cable and an ethernet cord into and it communicates through
 
@Dennis Say I'm the creator of a language, how do I display things when debug is turned on?
 
All I want for Christmas / is zinc / zi-inc / zi-inc / NOW GIMME SOME ZINC
 
3:48 PM
@DJMcMayhem That's a terminal server. :)
> A terminal server (also referred to as a serial server or console server network access server) enables organizations to connect devices with an RS-232, RS-422 or RS-485 serial interface to a local area network (LAN).
 
@LeakyNun Write to STDERR.
 
@Dennis I can write to STDERR without exiting?
 
> ESON is an Esoteric Knowledge Representation Format designed to be so easy to parse it melts Nazis' faces and burns out their eyes.
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ obtains zinc and gives it to LegionMammal978
 
3:48 PM
wu
 
@zyabin101 Too bad you can't do that in NMS...
 
@LeakyNun Of course. STDERR is just a stream. What is the parent language?
 
@mınxomaτ I've never heard of a terminal server before, but if you say so. :) Actually, the difference is it plugs into the motor directly without a LAN
 
wrong person :P
 
@DJMcMayhem Ah.
 
3:50 PM
wut
60€
 
@Dennis Prolog
 
Well, you got me there. I know nothing about Prolog.
 
Alright
 
Fatalize does i think?
 
@DJMcMayhem TSs are usually used by companies that want to compromise the security of many servers at the same time :D
 
3:52 PM
@LeakyNun write(user_error, ...).
 
@quartata I see, thanks
 
Now some thamium-9...
 
Took me a while to realize you're playing NMS and not just assembling a Christmas wishlist
 
i love how every negative reviews of NMS is because of the lack of AZERTY support
 

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