Game Development

Sie

1:14 AM

You guys ever have friends who you found out aren't really your friends?

Almo

1:33 AM

yeah

not terribly often

but it sucks ass when iot does

Sie

Ya it does.

Sie

1:48 AM

Anyway...

Here is the latest devlog on The Vertex Whisperer - elysrealm.com/blog/…

2

Darth_Wardy

7:54 AM

Mornin all

Leggy7

morning!

Kevin van der Velden

8:44 AM

Morning

DH.

11:25 AM

Morning guys

Kevin van der Velden

\o

user92578

Hi

user92578

11:41 AM

driving school starts tomorrow

user92578

so nervous that I can't really do anything

DH.

Just relax, it's not that hard

You just need to learn how sensible the things are

user92578

luckily it's just a theory class

user92578

but going to new places and situations makes me really nervous

DH.

Oh I thought you meant the practice ones

user92578

11:53 AM

naw

user92578

those are going to make me really nervous too

MickLH

12:45 PM

@Tyyppi_77 nah the anticipation will stir you up more and more the closer you get

but then the driving will relax you when you see how easy it actually is

I think it only takes like 1 or 2 turns to kick in, where you realize that the 1-ton brick of metal you're piloting actually just glides smoothly towards where you point it

William Mariager

I got the job! :D

Ali.S

@WilliamMariager I thought you had one?

:D

user92578

Nice! Congrats!

William Mariager

Now we just need to agree on a salary and I'll be ready to go. :D

user92578

I did not know you were applying for one though

William Mariager

12:49 PM

@Ali.S Driving a taxi? :P

@Tyyppi_77 I mentioned it a few days ago. I'm disappointed you didn't notice. Aren't you here 24 hours a day?

MickLH

@WilliamMariager You're driving a taxi for work??

DH.

Oh the one to work with C#?

William Mariager

@MickLH I did. :P But this is a C# developer job.

Ali.S

@WilliamMariager man... I always had a plan to travel to you, and have a tour around the city with you :P

William Mariager

@Ali.S :P

MickLH

12:50 PM

@WilliamMariager Schweeeet!

Ali.S

@WilliamMariager congrats then

William Mariager

Thanks.

user92578

@WilliamMariager Except at nights. I'm sorry!

MickLH

I actually had no idea you were a taxi driver, now I'm scared what if you saw me one of those drunk nights in Denmark where I needed a taxi :P

William Mariager

Going to be a bit stressful the coming weeks though. The deadline for the job is in three weeks. Also in the middle of finishing up the project at my university. And we got exams coming in three weeks as well, so I need to read up a bit.

Oh, and I'm going on the operating table in two days. :P

MickLH

12:52 PM

Read up muthafucka!

jc wtf is going on @WilliamMariager ?

William Mariager

Well, one course is just OOP with C#, which I'm good to go with. The others are Computer Architecture and Discreet Math.

Jon

they are reducing the size of his head

William Mariager

@Jon You got it!

MickLH

Damn I knew C# was a big transition, but you seriously have to have surgery to have your head shrunk to work with it??

William Mariager

:P

MickLH

12:54 PM

lol I'm being 20% difficult sorry

Jon

they need to release air buildup otherwise he would float away

William Mariager

Anything to get ahead in the C# Hunger Games. :P

Jon

the best part about c# is that it works with .net libs

MickLH

Shit... if jon was already being 75% difficult that updates my difficulty to 35%

William Mariager

110% difficult sounds about right ... :P

MickLH

12:56 PM

lol I think you have to add them up like stats

75 Difficult / 25 Easy + 35 Difficult / 65 Easy = 110 Difficult / 90 Easy

110 Difficult Instances / (110 + 90) Total Instances = 55/100 = 55% difficult

William Mariager

I don't think the rest of Jon is Easy though. And I know the other part of you is sarcasm.

MickLH

fuck you're confounding my variables

William Mariager

:P

MickLH

Make sure to give updates on your new stuff, always good to share experience like that

Employee of similar jobs sharing experiences with each other helps keep the workplace fair for everyone

William Mariager

I think the coolest part is that the CEO said he'd be willing to help me sell the solution afterwards for some royalties.

So basically, I develop this process optimizing stuff and he'll put me in contact with other companies with a similar need.

DH.

1:01 PM

That's cool

Getting into the market is the hardest part anyway

William Mariager

Yeah, and he's willing to help me out, getting in contact with the right people and such.

MickLH

Listen you better get rich motherfucker, we need more rich people to be you so things don't melt down

William Mariager

Oh definitely, I'll be rich soon, I promise.

Now I'm just impatiently await the salary offer ...

Kevin van der Velden

Planning a bankrobbery? :o

William Mariager

Is it called salary? I get paid by the hour.

@KevinvanderVelden Too much effort ...

Kevin van der Velden

1:07 PM

Drat

user92578

Treasure

genaray

I have a quick question, is there a performance differenz between calling a method out of a class and using a interface to call this content of the method ?

MickLH

@WilliamMariager I always thought of salary as being when you're paid a fixed amount every year, and wages as when you're paid per hour

genaray

difference*

William Mariager

@MickLH So it's a wage offer?

MickLH

1:08 PM

@genaray Do you mean to ask if there's a difference between virtual and non-virtual function calls?

William Mariager

@genaray Unlikely.

If there is a difference, it's going to be small. It also depends on the language.

Kevin van der Velden

@WilliamMariager depends on the language

William Mariager

I think C# only does virtual calls.

Well, not only, but mostly.

Kevin van der Velden

That's java which has virtual by default, C# doesn't

William Mariager

Ah

MickLH

1:09 PM

Even in C++, virtual function calls are barely more expensive than non-virtual

genaray

Hey because im currently trying to add some attack states to my player, first i called them through my class but now im using an interface to handle the states of the player, so there isnt any difference in java right ? :)

MickLH

the performance ranges overlap on modern hardware

genaray

Without Hey*

Kevin van der Velden

There's a difference but you're not gonna notice it so don't worry

MickLH

Don't worry about the speed of your program at all ever

William Mariager

1:10 PM

Unless you can document an actual issue :P

genaray

Ok thank you very much :)

MickLH

I am being serious, and not too extreme

William Mariager

And don't try to document it unless you have an actual issue.

No issues, no worries.

MickLH

You literally never have to worry about app performance, it will slap you in the face nice and hard when it matters

So, you can just carry on pretending everything is magically perfect until it reaches out and knocks you over by itself

William Mariager

The worst part about premature optimization is that your implementation will likely change and now you have to do it over. :P

Kevin van der Velden

1:12 PM

@MickLH unless thinking about algorithms, those are rather hard to fix =p

MickLH

Lol yeahh I rarely fix an algorithm, I just replace them with other algorithms

Kevin van der Velden

Yup, which requires a bunch of overhaul and refactoring generally

So it's worth it to think about those before starting

MickLH

Though you can always trust in that loud-and-clear face slap before worrying

Kevin van der Velden

True

MickLH

I mean if you need to deploy something that is extremely fucking critical, of course you should analyse everything before sending people off to have a bad day crashing your program lol

William Mariager

1:15 PM

Easily avoidable. Don't use algorithms and never refactor!

MickLH

Like if your software manages check-in at a hospital or something, I'd guess it's worth it to analyse asymptotic behavior of all operations on all data records

William Mariager

@MickLH That's my biggest worry 'bout my new job. I'll be the expert, as they don't have a software department. I don't know how I avoid breaking everything or what to do when I do. :P

MickLH

@WilliamMariager Lol well I learned one harsh lesson when I went into the role of being the only expert developer at a company... Be assertive.

Like seriously, they will try to push you to "bend the rules" because they have no idea which rules can be broken and which ones are solid diamond with titanium rebar

William Mariager

@MickLH Yeah, they seem very willing to listen to my ideas and input, so it's starting out good.

I figure the first thing I'll do is make sure that there are proper backup services in place before I start to modify anything.

MickLH

And if you get blowback on that, be assertive lol

William Mariager

1:19 PM

Absolutely :P But like I said, they seemed willing to listen.

Since they know nothing. :P

MickLH

Lol I'm mentally scarred because I had to learn that those things don't always go hand in hand

Some people are not willing to listen, also because they know nothing :P

So it sounds like you've got a good group

Darth_Wardy

welcome to the real world neo

Kevin van der Velden

Have some reconstituted blob food

Kevin van der Velden

1:38 PM

Can anyone help? I need some extra hands to properly express the facepalm needed for this: gamedev.net/topic/678515-operating-system-questions-in-assembly

MickLH

Kill it with Death N.O.S.

Seriously anything is fine... fire, poison, natural disaster, fucking magic, as long as it contains a hearty serving of death

Kids this over-confident need to be knocked down a peg early on, or else they grow up into actual full sized ignorant assholes

If he were asking if it's possible, that's a different story completely...

The fact that he assumed it's possible and has built a plan relying on it... that's the problem with society.

That kid is the overall sum of problems with the human race manifest

DH.

@KevinvanderVelden How he got 214 rep and then do this question?... like, really?

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah, what's the phrase, fractally wrong?

@DH. nope. that's his total reputation, and it's not stackexchange, you get reputation for logging in

See also: gamedev.net/user/233280-ambushgames/?tab=smrep

DH.

Ah OK then nvm

I thought it had to do with anything like getting likes on your posts

Almo

Ian's Impenetrable Sphere of Wrongness. It's so wrong, there's no way to approach it to address its wrongness... all attemps slide off its shiny surface.

MickLH

1:47 PM

Luckily the sphere is always subject to the same pervasive failure as the underlying thought process, and a flaw can always be found with enough effort

Sadly, in practice most people's bubble of stupid shit is a close enough approximation to make it impractically difficult to address in passing.

DH.

Brute forcing it would be a waste of time

MickLH

Of course, but it's a smooth function and you can search it with gradient descent or newton's method

If you want to get fancy you can track the responses until you have an example of two unique directions of evasion when you present evidence, and switch to a binary search style trust region so that you can do newton iterations without the risk of divergence

the metaphor actually fits surprisingly well lol

Kevin van der Velden

I'd just nuke it from orbit

DH.

"Kill it with fire" is always a good method.

Martin Sojka

Unless "it" is a supernova explosion.

Kevin van der Velden

1:58 PM

I mean, sufficient fire would probably kill a supernova? By turning it into a black hole but still

DH.

Well, if you ever are close to a supernova all you can do is say "FML", if you have the time and hope that your religion is right about afterlife.

Kevin van der Velden

(Assuming fire is plasma and you get enough around it to get that much gravity)

Martin Sojka

Supernovas turn into black holes all by themselves generally. Adding stuff just make them do it quicker, more violently, and leaving a bigger black hole behind.

Almo

"supernovae" ;)

Martin Sojka

That works too.

I might have watched too much Stellaris footage recently. :)

William Mariager

2:21 PM

They called! I'll be getting $20/hour starting. Now I just need to sign an NDA and I can get started. :D

DH.

wow nice

To USD conversion(and counting that Sunday I don't work but it counts towards the monthly worked hours) I earn less than half of that

Almo

@WilliamMariager :)

PearsonArtPhoto

2:47 PM

New Blog Post- Movement Preview, starting to generate the world, movement improvement, wind patterns. kd7uiy.com/2016/05/sea-trading-game-moving-preview-fish.html

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StackExchange

3:10 PM

0

Q: How can we improve the tutorial tag definition?

I saw a new user asking for paper2d tutorials & getting down voted. There were no comments indicating the reason for down voting, so it being a new user & all, I commented that asking for tutorials was not on-topic. The questioner challenged me on this, citing the tutorial tag. To me, the tag def...

William Mariager

@DH. Well, I do pay 38% base tax and then around 10% more in misc taxes. :P

Kevin van der Velden

Also cost of living is probably a bit different

William Mariager

I'd imagine so.

As far as I've understood, in the end, cost comes to about the same as the US for the average class. Where we pay more in taxes, in the US they pay more in insurance. Of course, there are things that very hugely. Our cars are stupidly expensive. :P

Kevin van der Velden

3:28 PM

Also @DH is from Brazil IIRC

William Mariager

Oh right. That probably doesn't compare easily to Denmark. :P

DH.

3:58 PM

I still don't pay taxes, for such low salary

I mean, not too much, I pay only a little %

William Mariager

We have a tax free low-bound of about $6500/yr. After that we pay the above mentioned. It does vary of course, you can get more tax-free like if you owe a lot of money or work a lot.

DH.

Hm... I do receive a bit more than that at the current exchange rate

What makes me not paying tax it's because paying the university for my bachelor degree gets deducted from the limit

William Mariager

Ah

Yeah, we don't pay for that, it's all through taxes here.

DH.

There's only a few universities that lives from the government, it sucks

Almo

vimeo.com/165592795

DH.

4:06 PM

What helps me is that the company I work pay 50% of the university for me

(They don't do that only because of free will and kindness, they get reduced taxes for that :P)

William Mariager

4:21 PM

That's a great incentive though. :)

PearsonArtPhoto

4:53 PM

My master's degree was paid for by my company almost completely.

I paid for books for the first few classes, and 1 class that I didn't get a good enough grade for the company to reimburse, but other than that...

Almo

5:18 PM

c-hash question. is this safe:

		for (int i = 0, count = _pendingPurchases.Count; i < count; ++i)
		{
			if (!CheckIfEquipped(_pendingPurchases[i].ItemStatsRowKey, _pendingPurchases[i].ItemTableKey))
			{
				_pendingPurchases.RemoveAt(i);

				i--;
				count = _pendingPurchases.Count;
			}
		}

MickLH

lol josh drops in within seconds of the phrase "c-hash question"

Jon

that is quite some gross code there

Almo

It's not mine, and I wonder about List and if that's a safe operation

user4704

@Almo No.

Almo

I didn't think so. But I found it recommended here:

user4704

5:20 PM

You're fine to call RemoveAt() like that in a loop; the "don't modify while iterating" rule applies to enumerators (so, foreach)

Almo

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Q: C# List - Removing items while looping / iterating

Suppose that I have the following code snippet: var data=new List<string>(){"One","Two","Three"}; for(int i=0 ; i<data.Count ; i++){ if(data[i]=="One"){ data.RemoveAt(i); } } The following code throws exception. My question is what is the best way to avoid this exception and to remove...

c# .net list collections

user4704

The reason it's unsafe is that it doesn't handle the case where i is 0 and CheckIfEquipped is false for that i.

Almo

ah ok thanks

user4704

So unless that can't happen because of some other guard, --i will result in hilarity

user4704

(or crashes, more likely)

Almo

5:21 PM

heheh ok

Jon

that being said, the code as it is written now wouldn't do anything but exit the loop if it removed at index 0

user4704

But the basic theory is fine.

Almo

ok thanks

MickLH

They used the worst micro optimization ever there

for (int i = 0, count = _pendingPurchases.Count; i < count; ++i)

Almo

in Unity's version of .net, .Count is "slow"

if you do a benchmark and compare it to array.length, it's noticably slower

MickLH

5:24 PM

But that's basically the most possible bug prone idiom for updating a list while iterating it

Almo

Personally, I'd never do that optimization, unless maybe it was a huge bunch of iterations every frame.

like millions

MickLH

It's almost guaranteed that as the loop gets more complex, someone will eventually forget to update count somewhere

Almo

But it's something they want us to do to "get in the habit" so that if the loop ever does matter, it will be taken care of

ordinarily "count" doesn't change

it's just weird in this case because we're iterating over a list and changing the length of the list

MickLH

Right so the rare time when it does change, is also the time when it would matter if anyone forgot to update count anywhere

Almo

yeah

MickLH

5:26 PM

I consider .Count being slow a huge problem with Unity / Mono / wherever the source of that error is

I can't call working around it with something dangerous a "good" habit lol

Almo

I think my benchmark did an empty for loop with 100 million calls, and it took an extra half second over array.length

array.length was 0.5 s or 0.75 sec

so it's like twice as slow, or something

but still we're usually talking about picoseconds except for really long loops

personally, I'd ignore it

but it's not my call

MickLH

lol that would make sense because .Length should just be returning an int

Almo

shouldn't .Count just return an int as well?

it's not .Count()

MickLH

and so .Count returning .Length through 1 layer of indirection could take roughly twice as long, right? :P

Almo

Well, a List doesn't have .Length because it's not an array

MickLH

5:29 PM

I figure list is implemented on top of something

Almo

IEnumerable

MickLH

Ahhhh virtual function call overhead?

user4704

Not necessarily, some interface method calls can be dispatched without it.

user4704

(That doesn't always result in them being faster though)

MickLH

I can't accept not ignoring the performance penalty :'(

user4704

5:32 PM

Count just returns _size, though.

user4704

If your benchmarks are misconfigured, however, you'll get the Contract.Ensures overhead.

MickLH

Exactly, it's too small an operation to optimize

Twice the time of calling a function that just returns an int... is so trivial I seriously can't believe it's a coding standard

Almo

I agree.

I even tried asserting that we should only do it for stuff that gets called every frame, and I got the "habit" argument.

I gave them the benchmark results too

MickLH

I need to yell at whoever is insisting on this

Almo

oh well, things can't always be perfect.

I'm just waiting for it to cause a maintainability bug and I'll bring it up again

MickLH

5:36 PM

Or a bug at all, ever, even once lol

Almo

:)

MickLH

Since the combined total time saved will NEVER add up to the few minutes spent debugging that

Almo

heheh

MickLH

Not to mention the total employee time wasted typing the word "count" 3 extra times everywhere

I would bet money that combined in total, the 5 seconds spent on keystrokes each time, overwhelms the actual amount of CPU time saved. Not even considering that an hour of CPU time costs about 10 cents, versus what does a man hour cost?

Almo

the CPU time is lost by the users, not us

but I get your meaning

MickLH

5:40 PM

So it's even more worthless to you guys

Because the CPU time is literally free, but the man hours still cost just as much

On paper, whoever is pushing this "habit" argument is throwing away time and money. I seriously can't get over how bad of a decision they have made there lol...

Almo

in mobile development, losing CPU to something silly is bad since there isn't much to go around compared to in PC development

but still this particular instance is the wrong time to worry about it

MickLH

It's equivalent to hiring a mechanic but telling them that there's not much space under the hood, so they are going to have to leave their ratchet unlocked even when they use it.

And when they say that normally the ratchet is just faster and better, and they can just switch to a wrench if space is really so tight, they are met with blowback: "No wrench! You have to use the ratchet always, just leave it unlocked and awkwardly use it like a wrench. Do it if you want to get paid."

but.... "No! Get in the habit of awkwardly abusing the unlocked ratchet, so that it's easier to use it that way later."

Almo

the analogy doesn't really hold since in your case it's not possible to accidentally use the wrong thing in the wrong place

MickLH

no?

Almo

maybe I don't understand your ratchet/wrench thing then

MickLH

5:50 PM

That's just how insane the situation is -_-

You can't imagine how much I hate this guy lol... I mean seriously you're too nice to understand how deeply I despise this "human" trash you've mentioned as being the overall problem here

Managers and clients need to realize that they don't know what the fuck to do even slightly or else they would be the one coding it.

The main point I'm on is that when you hire skilled labor, you simply don't tell them how to be good at their job. That is the point of "SKILLED" labor.

Almo

hehe

MickLH

Also that loop above, can't you just run it backwards?

Almo

I would think so

MickLH

int i = _pendingPurchases.Count;
while (i--) {
	if (!CheckIfEquipped(_pendingPurchases[i].ItemStatsRowKey, _pendingPurchases[i].ItemTableKey)) {
		_pendingPurchases.RemoveAt(i);
	}
}

Boom, now if .Count were the expensive operation... (it's not -_-) it would be down to O(1) from O(n) worst case :P

Almo

the other is O(N)?

I thought it just looped forward, and didn't increment on iterations where it removed one.

Ok, so worst case is N items to delete

right?

if so, isn't yours also O(N)? I never learned O stuff well since I haven't studied CS

NaCl

6:32 PM

Yes, it is

MickLH

Yes it's O(n) which implies that saving the n .Count operations doesn't (asymptotically) mean anything

Almo

ok I think I get that thanks

MickLH

I actually do like to do mixed iterate-delete in backwards order like that though :P

It's easier to reason about for me, because I'm only looking at values in front of the cursor, and only changing values behind the cursor

Also the left over i is almost like a function return value telling you what it got to before it hit break; or -1 if the loop never ran

Almo

Magnets and Marbles !

►

MickLH

@Almo this is extremely awesome

Almo

6:45 PM

thought you might like that ;)

Sie

@Almo The song was pretty good until they started sampling the girls voice in there. Why do these people have to ruin a perfectly good instrumental?

Cool video though.

Almo

:)

One of my favorite ambient artists happens to be bad at picking vocal samples

so he'll have a totally awesome track, and drop a bad vocal sample in there

he doesn't always fuck it up, but when he does, it's pretty bad.

Sie

Seems like that is the case with a lot of indie artists. Like that song had a great little track but then they had to have that dumb girl come in and say literally 2 words and put it all throughout the track.

Honestly I was thinking about reaching out to the artist and see what they might charge to let me use it in my game. I still might if they can get rid of the vocal portion.

Almo

heheh :)

Sie

Oh sweet. It has no copyright actually: youtube.com/watch?v=SKI1P2gEK54

I could probably edit the bits out. Maybe.

user4704

7:04 PM

@Sie I'd be careful with that.

Sie

Ya. Not sure how no copyright music will interact with my planned to be commercial product. Need to look into it more.

user4704

"No copyright" is not a thing.

user4704

Except in countries or jurisdictions where copyright itself is not a thing, I suppose.

Sie

So what is it then? A scam or just wrong terminology?

user4704

Wrong terminology.

Almo

7:06 PM

^

user4704

For any Berne convention country, any work is basically automatically held under copyright by the author.

user4704

The work may be explicitly placed in the public domain (which this is not).

Sie

It could be cc-zero and they didn't realize the term perhaps. I guess I should shoot them a message to find out.

user4704

Yea, you want to get clarification on the actual license terms.

user4704

In reality it's probably not public domain, but some CC-like license

Sie

7:09 PM

Well if does turn out to be cc zero or anything as lax as that I'll be good.

DH.

Public domain is a bit too much of "I don't care what you do with my work" and most people expect at least credits

Sie

Credits I don't mind.

Kevin van der Velden

youtube.com/user/NoCopyrightSounds/about

Their standard license, basically: Free for use in youtube or twitch, monetized or not

DH.

If you plan to get some stuff for non commercial license you could check NewGrounds

Kevin van der Velden

And a for business inquiries

Sie

7:12 PM

@DH. I will check but I kind of want whatever music I get to be part of a set. As I think multiple tracks from different artists will not flow well at all.

DH.

Yeah it's hard to fit multiple artists for the same game, but it kinda works

Almo

Osmos did

Pichi Wuana

7:45 PM

Which is the best book for learning Unity? Or the best way to start?

Kevin van der Velden

By making things

Pichi Wuana

But which is the best book?

DH.

Start with watching and doing their tutorials

Pichi Wuana

ok

Almo

8:04 PM

There is no "best book"

different books would have different styles, and which is "best" will depend on the person reading it

user4704

There's no substitute for hands-on practice either.

DH.

Yeah, that's why I said to him to watch and do the tutorials. It shows a lot of the IDE and you get your hands dirty, so it's a good start

Sie

@PichiWuana Look into Brackeys and Pushy Pixels both have a host of great Unity centric tutorials.

Pichi Wuana

8:29 PM

thanks

Chris McFarland

@Almo thanks. the donation system is cool hehe, give a little, take a little

Almo

:D

Chris McFarland

I've been tinkering with inventory/item management design past couple days
mulled over this one, didn't touch it yesterday cuz I think I like it

would possibly need pagination if you had a tonne of stuff
but it has nice categories, can display lots of stuff on the screen at once in a small screen real estate
pop-up info box just stays to the right of the row you're on
allows for mouse hovering as well as keyboard/controller navigation with ease

uses a grid system but isn't just a giant ugly box of squares, allows for some visual elegance I think

DH.

Hope to see it later, blocked here at work your image as I already told you lol

Chris McFarland

damn lol

DH.

8:42 PM

Damn Chris you could be less popular, then I could see your stuff at work

Chris McFarland

upper management hates me

Almo

8:53 PM

lookin cool chris

though... that brown color on the buttons is pretty ugly :D

Chris McFarland

yea

Might devise some icon backgrounds depending on item type and/or rarity

OMGtechy

I think you have too many axes too

Almo

^

Chris McFarland

possibly

OMGtechy

I tried using an axe as a potion once, it didn't go well

Chris McFarland

8:55 PM

they make great pets

OMGtechy

but really bad helmets

Chris McFarland

eat, sleep, and breathe axes

tbh I've been staring at this axe for like 5 months now

very keen to make some new items soon lol

OMGtechy

portable sacrificial kittens

Chris McFarland

I hope to create a Kitten Launcher

OMGtechy

I hope you do too

I've spent far too much time learning about blood types; all I can think of is the kittens blood

Chris McFarland

8:57 PM

lots to do :)
but yeah, donned on me a few days ago, hey I've got my networking in, gibbing and blood is in roughly for now... time to make some items

hahahaha.
I dunno what blood types cats have

OMGtechy

I've also discovered that the scene in Bruce Almighty where the lady talks about donating AB+ blood is a pile of crap

that is like the worst possible blood type to donate

aside from the plasma

Bitch needs to get her O- friends to go

hmm that's a point, I wonder what blood types cats have

Chris McFarland

I also need to decide if I want enemies to use items just like you can, or if I'll make enemies use their own magic spells. though any enemy ability could be turned into a physical weapon that you could use too

hahaha

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