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8:00 PM
@Dennis And you didn't update the meta post. I am disappoint.
:D
 
@JimmyJazzx Yes, but the standard tick time is .1 seconds. It is very difficult to change.
 
I have had a total of 14 cats
 
@FlagAsSpam I'm just curious if there is a way to set it to go every 1 Second or if your constrained to Ticks?
 
(not at the same time)
My favourite cat was killed by a badger
rip
 
8:02 PM
I was about to say... "14 cats?! Do you have 15 keyboards?"
 
:D
We lived on the countryside, badgers and crap were abundant
I went hunting with a crowbar when the badgers murdered my cat
 
ever seen a badger???
 
Not irl
 
Anonymous
Seems reasonable
 
@JimmyJazzx Definitely constricted to ticks. :P
 
8:03 PM
Didn't find any
I was like 10 years old
Upset and sad
Murderous rage
 
Anonymous
Flamethrower is your friend
 
Put stale bread in my boots (old trick)
Badgers keep biting until they hear a crack apparently
 
@sweerpotato from your bones?
 
@Optimizer yeah
supposedly
 
8:06 PM
Hey guys.
 
We always put stale bread in our boots when we were going outside
 
Anonymous
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ bring him bring him in gentlementlemen
 
In case we intruded on badger territory
 
hey, your message did not collapse into one
weird
 
Anonymous
Steel-toed boots
 
Anonymous
8:06 PM
Problem solved
 
Anonymous
Give the bastards a swift kick
 
Badgers are scary as hell
You can run them over with your car, and the car is the thing which breaks
They're like steel war machines
 
Anonymous
Well don't drive a Ford
 
:D
car is instarip
 
weird
 
Anonymous
8:08 PM
The Ford would die with or without badgers
 
Why is it happening?
 
When badgers curl up they're more or less indestructible
 
hey, mine also did not collapse..
is it a time delay... ?
now it did :|
 
@Mego Back in the 90s, fords were nigh invulnerable. Especially compared to most modern cars.
 
Anonymous
@SuperJedi224 Lots of stuff was different in the 90s
 
8:09 PM
such random logic to collapse messages :
 
@SuperJedi224 today's cars deform to save you ass, in those you could die and the car got a few scratches
 
Somebody should golf that algorithm
oh!
 
@CSᵠ They also often deform beyond repair when there is absolutely no reason to.
 
I found out my colleague is a codegolfer, but I have no idea who he is here
 
8:11 PM
deformity
 
2 mins ago, by Mego
The Ford would die with or without badgers
 
You're missing a response in between
 
@TimmyD huh?
oh!
;)
ahh
 
Ting tang walla walla bing bang?
 
8:12 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ have an upvote
 
@sweerpotato :D Thanks! And thanks for helping me with that. (I like your leech, as weird as that sounds. I +1ed it :))
 
Np! Anytime :~)!
I worked as a Java programmer a few months ago
Horrible experience..
 
Oh wow. Java not that good?
 
I'm used to real programming languages like C++ :(
 
that's not real
ASM is real
 
8:14 PM
real programming languages do not have class!
 
in Java you can do anything.. except defining your own operators
 
Java takes some time to get used to.
 
I hate the bracket style the most
 
Punch cards and the like are "real" ... everything else is, by definition, virtual
 
It's also lousy for code golfing.
 
8:15 PM
C# is a decent middle-ground between C++ and Java
 
Peace out y'all
 
I work as a C# programmer now
Bye! @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ
I still have no clue how to program good C#
my company (which is not a programming company) just went "that dude knows programming, send him in!"
Albeit it sort of works (I guess)
 
did we really not have a Set spotting golf yet?
Set! redirects here. Set! is also a special form in the Scheme programming language. Set is a real-time card game designed by Marsha Falco in 1974 and published by Set Enterprises in 1991. The deck consists of 81 cards varying in four features: number (one, two, or three); symbol (diamond, squiggle, oval); shading (solid, striped, or open); and color (red, green, or purple). Each possible combination of features (e.g., a card with three striped green diamonds) appears precisely once in the deck. == History == The game evolved out of a coding system that the designer used in her job as a geneticist...
 
@randomra is that an advanced version of stone, paper, scissors?
 
@randomra "Set! redirects here. Set!" I feel like Wikipedia is yelling at me.
 
8:22 PM
That's a great game.
 
@sweerpotato no, its not. the goal of the game is to identify "Set"s from a group of 12 cards
faster than anybody else
 
Oh!
I should probably read the article
 
@NathanMerrill thanks, I couldn't find it, that's pretty much what I had in mind
now I can solve it and don't have to write specs :)
 
lol
fun fact:
you can have up to 20 cards showing without a single set
 
8:31 PM
@NathanMerrill I'm surprised my bot is actually in the upper half
Everybody came up with megabrain algorithms
 
its tough to predict who will do well
 
@NathanMerrill time java -jar... ?
 
but its interesting to see a community of bots growing around the sniper
@FlagAsSpam I'm confused
 
Sniper is nasty
 
See who has the most efficient method of getting the card's faces.
/comparing them.
 
8:34 PM
I'm not interested in timing computer programs
the actual game uses real cards :P
 
Music tips?
 
christmas
 
wat
 
Anonymous
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Understatement of the year
 
Java is a decent language XP
 
@NathanMerrill I expected a dubstep half-way during that song
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

geokavelN-Player Pig Pen king-of-the-hill This is the Pig Pen game (not exactly sure what it's called), where you have a grid and on each turn one player fills in a line on one square of the grid. If your line completes a square you get a point. My current code is on Github. Your controller must be w...

 
8:41 PM
so many new KoTHs!
KoTHs are coming back :P
 
@Zgarb reminds me of Jean Michel Jarre
 
Can I call the Set! challenge?
I wanna do a KoTH. :D
 
@FlagAsSpam I have no idea how a Set KoTH is going to work
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

ev3commander[Catalog] How long ago was this? The Rules Each submission must be a full program. The program must take input as the form YYYY-MM-DD, and print the number of days that has passed since that day to STDOUT (if the input is in the future, output a negative number) plus an optional trailing newli...

NewSandboxedPosts is slow...
 
8:49 PM
@ev3commander I believe it checks every 5 minutes
which is a long time in chat
 
@NathanMerrill time <interpreter> <file> should be good enough. I'll just make a github page where people upload their interpreter, file, and concatenate their command to run it in the .sh file that I'll make to test all of them.
 
right, but that isn't a KoTH
that's a fastest-code challenge
 
Set sounds like a terrible game for KoTH
 
@quintopia it could be interesting if you knew all of the future cards that would be played out
 
@NathanMerrill Oh. Yeah. That's a thing.
 
8:51 PM
and you took turns taking a set
 
"which program runs faster?" <-Set KoTH runner
 
This should be downvoted to oblivion:
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A: You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye

username.akHighOrLowNotSelf Removes randomly lowest or highest intelligence player (but not self). public class HighOrLowNotSelf extends Player{ @Override public int vote(Set<Integer> ops) { int b=Math.round(Math.random()*1); int p; if(b==1) p=Collections.max(ops) else p=Co...

It's wrong.
 
why?
it doesn't work, but I fixed the bugs
the code for it on github works
 
I would do a Set golf though
 
"fixed"?
 
8:52 PM
@isaacg how?
 
it randomly picks the highest player or lowest player
 
Hey all!
 
a valid strategy that hasn't been done yet
 
> "fixed"?
 
@ev3commander I'm not convinced that that task needs to be a Catalog
 
8:54 PM
@Zgarb Not bad :)
 
Hello?
 
Don't edit code submissions for the submitters...
 
I didn't edit the post, but if the bugs are obvious, then I'll fix them
 
@AlexA. sup
 
I've done that several times this challenge
 
8:55 PM
@NathanMerrill It's easy.
 
Hello?!
 
@sweerpotato исәнме
@TanMath сәлам
 
@AlexA. Seriously?!
 
@AlexA. google translate yields: isәnme
 
Google Translate doesn't have Tatar. :P
 
8:57 PM
It's Russian :(
 
@sweerpotato he is calling you insane!
 
@sweerpotato What I said isn't
 
You're oppressing me!
:~)!
 
@TanMath исәнме = isänme = hello
 
8:58 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

ev3commander[Catalog] How long ago was this? The Rules Each submission must be a full program. The program must take input as the form YYYY-MM-DD, and print the number of days that has passed since that day to STDOUT (if the input is in the future, output a negative number) plus an optional trailing newli...

 
@TanMath сәлам = sälam = hi
 
finally!!!!
 
Tatar!
 
sälam
This reminds me of arabic(?)
 
blabla
 
8:58 PM
@AlexA. I do not believe you
 
@ev3commander "Requirements for being added to this list include that the task should be a common programming exercise"
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Q: Does PPCG fulfil a role as a catalogue for golfed solution of standard programming exercises?

Martin BüttnerRosetta Code collects solutions to standard programming exercises in hundreds of programming languages. However, it focuses on "good" or idiomatic solutions in those languages. I'm not aware of a similar catalogue from a golfing perspective. Is PPCG capable of fulfilling that role? Do we have cha...

 
@sweerpotato Tatar was written with a variant of the Arabic alphabet until about the 1920s.
 
@NathanMerrill k
 
while its simple, I'm not convinced its "common"
 
8:59 PM
It's a Turkic language but it has a lot of Arabic influence
 
however, that's just my opinion
 
And modern Tatar has Russian influence as well
 
however much weight that has
 
@quintopia Yes?
 
I see!
 
9:00 PM
Hello
 
Hello @ZachGates congratulations on your language
 
@ZachGates исәнме
 
@TanMath Thanks!
 
@ZachGates You made a language too? :D
 
I did :D
 
9:01 PM
@AlexA. I have a Tatar friend.
 
@FlagAsSpam he did, it is called milky way
 
@FlagAsSpam Milky Way, currently v1.0.2
 
@quintopia :D :D :D
@quintopia Does your friend speak Tatar or is your friend just ethnically Tatar?
 
:o
This is fancy.
 
@ZachGates it looks like a stack language with a bunch of built in math operators. Is that the core of the language?
or is there something I missed?
 
9:03 PM
These golfing languages are popping up left and right...
 
@ZachGates You misspelled "interpreter" in a comment in milkyway.py.
 
I think my language is the new C++ when I finally get around to implement if-clauses
 
@NathanMerrill Currently, yes, the majority of the language is based in math.
 
@sweerpotato o_O is it a golfing language?
 
\Vitsy/
      \Seriously/
  \Milky Way/
 
9:04 PM
@Zgarb That's true, be it for better or for worse. :P
 
Totally abandoning C++ in favor of Darkness.
 
@AlexA. Thanks, fixed it.
 
;)
 
9:05 PM
we need a badge
3
 
@NathanMerrill Pretty much only relevant on this site. :P
 
(not sure if there's a markdown way to do badges
 
No there isn't
 
I don't undestand why we're still in Beta
 
Because we haven't graduated
 
9:05 PM
@AlexA. totally :P
 
@sweerpotato Because @Calvin'sHobbies isn't writing 10 challenges per day
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rip
 
We don't meet the graduation requirements, particularly the 10 questions/day minimum
 
@AlexA. I think only the latter. She lived most of her life in Moscow
 
9:06 PM
oh, there's such a thing? @AlexA.
 
we do have an expected graduation date, in mid January though
 
I need a snippet
 
I shall take responsibility and write 10 really bad problems a day
 
for a non-catalog problem
 
@NathanMerrill ಠ_ಠ
 
9:06 PM
I shall become a martyr
 
I am making two languages simultaneously
 
@quintopia Oh neat! Well tell her I said исәнме. :P
 
What?
 
@NathanMerrill I'm waiting
But I can't do it forever
 
9:14 PM
sniper's strategy revolves around keeping one around alive.
 
done
 
why hasn't somebody written a bot to kill that one
 
Should i create my newly sand boxed challenge
 
@ev3commander How long has it been in the sandbox?
 
like, 11 minutes
 
9:15 PM
Then no
That defeats the purpose of the sandbox
 
Others may disagree, but I consider 24 hours the bare minimum and several days ideal.
 
@AlexA. I disagree, I think it simply depends on the amount of feedback. If I get lots of immediate feedback, then go ahead and post it.
but if you post it on a dead weekend, then it should be there for at least 48 hours
 
Makes sense
 
How long have we been in beta
 
9:24 PM
@ev3commander Coming up to 5 years. :-P
 
Oh...
 
We're set to graduate Nov. 1st though
 
^
Hehehe
 
@ev3commander With the new graduation framework, it's now possible for sites to be permanently in beta.
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9:31 PM
@NathanMerrill do bots know how friendly a target is in step 1? what happens in step 6/7 if multiple of the attackers try to write to the same data/function with different content?
 
@Sparr no, but that could be guesstimated by message contents. Still not sure on 6/7. For functions, it'll likely be random, but for data, I may aggregate changes
 
@ChrisJester-Young I like it that way
 
assuming the message can be long enough to hold arbitrary data, why would a bot not always choose all other bots in step 1?
 
@Sparr I'm debating making the message be an integer. Bots don't start out with knowledge of all other bots
specifically, bots will have an address book
with 4 other bots in it
that's one of the things that could be modified on step 6
 
a useful helper function to provide would be a way to produce a hash value for a function. I expect a lot of bots are going to want to check if their functions have changed.
 
9:35 PM
which won't be possible
intentionally
 
when you say "copy over X function", you'll pass an Enum determining the function (1-8), and my code will do the rest
they don't have access to the actual functions
 
@ev3commander Sorry, "tag-ception" isn't possible.
 
Hey @trichoplax long time no chat! ;)
 
@TanMath Hey :) Yes I've been away from chat for a few days...
 
9:38 PM
You have missed a lot
 
:D my bot's doing Okay :D
#10
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ and you got lots of votes
must have been the graphic :P
 
@NathanMerrill I know :P
 
9:40 PM
@NathanMerrill Yeah, probably.
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A: You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴSpy Spy is reserved. He doesn't like to gun for the smartest people. Likewise, he doesn't like picking on quartata defenseless idiots. So, he likes to eliminate those closest to him in smartness. package WeakestLink.Players; import java.util.Iterator; import java.util.Set; public class Spy ...

 
just got the winterbash announcement email :D
 
checks email
 
Mod consensus was "don't even bother asking; we can pretty safely assume almost everybody wants hats"
 
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Q: Make a program that outputs its own MD5 hash

anatolygChallenge: make a program that outputs a MD5 hash of its source code. You should not use tricks that would be considered cheating in a quine sense (discussed here). Using built-in functions and external libraries is allowed. The program should be a full program (not a function/subroutine). Code...

 
@MartinBüttner do you think you can fit in a whitespace answer in your behemoth of an answer?
 
9:47 PM
@sweerpotato sure, but that would currently increase my score I think
I can only use up to 9 characters to add language number 10
(although I'm currently trying to find out how to shave off a byte of this version)
 
@NewMainPosts borderline dupe of plain quine
 
Basically just replacing print with print(md5())...
 
Probably the sickest answer I've seen so far
 
thanks :)
 
9:49 PM
Really, well done
I don't understand how you do it :D
 
@sweerpotato #!/sbin/md5
That was my answer, but it was probably not a "proper quine", so I deleted it.
 
@ChrisJester-Young if you come up with something in C or C++ I'll make an effigy of you
Worship it before I go to bed etc
 
...
 
@sweerpotato I couldn't say... I think I was pretty lucky with some parts that just fell into place. especially how Labyrinth and Hexagony manage to use the same @!(
 
Still very impressive to manage to cram in 9 different languages with 9 different outputs
 
9:53 PM
Ugh what why did the cheating quine get an upvote
Seriously, two? :/
 
I think it says 0
 
@ev3commander You can't view the votes ;)
 
@ev3commander It's +2/-2.
 
I'm running a brute force to see if any MD5 hash is equivalent to itself
I doubt it, but it's worth a try
 
9:57 PM
I do like that the person linked to Python. Otherwise I would have no idea what this mysterious "Python" language is.
9
 
Sigh, people refusing to actually read answers before voting on them is almost as bad as people who refuse to test their code.
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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Have fun!
 

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