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Robusto

12:00

No, I asked someone who I know hangs around EL&U, (it was a toss up between you and Fumblefingers) lives in the US (he doesn't) and who might have remembered a song, if he especially liked it. That's all. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

Every dialogue with Mari-Lou evolves into a five-act tragedy.

RegDwigнt

Robusto never remembered a song.

Everyone should know that.

Robusto

I would remember the song if I remembered the name.

RegDwigнt

You couldn't remember a name if it slapped you in the face with a hole in the ground.

Robusto

The question is not "Which song is this" it's "Which song did you discuss in April, 2011?"

RegDwigнt

Well.

tchrist

12:01

The older you get, the more every line reminds you of a song.

RegDwigнt

You know that some psychopaths, like I dunno, me, could actually answer that.

I remember all about April, 2011.

It was a rainy day.

tchrist

Snowday.

RegDwigнt

Yes a rainy Snowden.

In a snowy den.

And den, something happened.

And it was a song.

tchrist

Where the polar bears fraulic.

RegDwigнt

For a song.

Robusto

12:03

If you gave me the name I could hum the tune. If you gave me the tune, I could probably give you the name, or at least the chorus. But if you ask me to tell you what I was discussing 4.5 years ago, you're out of luck. Sorry.

RegDwigнt

The name is Sieglinde.

The tune is la-la-laaah-la.

Now get down to work.

tchrist

Yes, probably.

RegDwigнt

Oh I forgot, you're unemployed now. And your briefcase with the papers was stolen, too.

tchrist

I blame the postman.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Sounds like Wagner.

I thought you Russkis hated Wagner.

RegDwigнt

12:04

tchrist

They have reason.

RegDwigнt

Original Wagner.

Robusto

Which is why you created the new, improved Wagner, a.k.a. Shostakovich.

@RegDwigнt "Big Pizza" Hahaha, that is so . . . artless.

RegDwigнt

Shostakovich was one sad character. History was not kind to him. Think Turing, that level and quality of sad.

tchrist

@Robusto The Texas part suffices for that impression.

Robusto

12:06

And what an unappealing photo. I can't even imagine a Cherman eating that and liking it.

RegDwigнt

Hey now whaddayawant, it says "American style", it's not their fault that Americans have no style at all.

Robusto

We have style. We just don't have it in Texas. Look elsewhere.

RegDwigнt

At least it does not have for crust a hundred sausages filled with pizzas.

tchrist

> Les pizzas consommées actuellement peuvent se diviser en deux grands styles. La pizza classique, à la pâte plutôt fine et croustillante, respecte à peu près la tradition. La pizza américaine en revanche utilise la pâte à pain, très épaisse et moelleuse, et une garniture très abondante, plus grasse et en général encore plus riche en fromage comme la pizza de Chicago, un style de pizza originaire de cette ville.

Mussels on the za.

Robusto

Oh, and by the way, it's pretty certainly cognitive dissonance to call something "Big Pizza" when it's so freakin' small. Unless that "Luftig locker" line is written on the side of a blimp.

RegDwigнt

12:08

Plus grasse.

And not the Neil Tyson kind.

tchrist

In Texas it’s illegal to sell pizzas less than a pound.

Robusto

Also, the cheese is all white. Two words: enzymatic browning. Look into it before you try to tempt me with pizza.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto it's marketese nonsense of course, but taking the question seriously for a second, tchrist's passage is very a propos.

tchrist

That’s racist.

RegDwigнt

The typical pizza in Germany is very thin.

So this name makes quite some sense to quickly bring across the point it's an American-style pizza pie.

tchrist

12:10

@RegDwigнt With corn.

RegDwigнt

Here. Have a look at this traditional product of theirs.

It's thinner than the spatula it's on.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt I saw pizza in Germany. I just never had the courage to eat it. Or even touch it. It was limp, like a dishrag. And smelled about the same, IIRC.

tchrist

Why in the world are they using leeks not onions?

RegDwigнt

(By the way, this particular one tastes like Heaven with Heaven on top.)

((Never tried the Big Pizza, obviously.))

Robusto

@tchrist They were out of rutabagas. Duh!

tchrist

12:13

reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2f8r2x/…

RegDwigнt

@Robusto yeah well if that was in the 70s I will believe it immediately. I mean, twas the times when Germans went to Italy to eat spaghetti with scissors.

Whaddaya expect. New strange things are new and strange so if it tastes like a dishrag you can only assume it must.

Robusto

It was.

RegDwigнt

But forty years on, you can't fool people anymore.

tchrist

There's a reason the Germans did not invent pizza. This is it.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist they use onions on other pizzas. Quite a lot, actually. I actually wouldn't notice or care myself, but I know people who absolutely can't stand that, so I am more than aware how often onions are an ingredient.

In this particular one, onions are obviously a crucial ingredient of the sauce. The leek is the topping.

tchrist

12:17

Meaning they hate onions, or they hate leeks, or they hate all um alliaceous comestibles, or?

Yes, onions have to be in everything.

Robusto

5 mins ago, by Robusto

@tchrist They were out of rutabagas. Duh!

tchrist

I know three people whom this causes crippling pain.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist Well they don't hate them, but they are very careful about not having onion breath.

Robusto

Oh, but sausage breath is fine.

Actually, sausage breath is the wurst.

tchrist

Gay.

Robusto

12:18

And you knew I was going to say that.

RegDwigнt

The people in question are vegetarians.

So I wouldn't know.

But now that you mention it, most sausage in Germany contains onions so it's same shit different dress.

tchrist

I'll eat veggie sausage on a pizza, but I wouldn’t go out of my way looking for it.

RegDwigнt

I've not seen veggie sausage on a pizza.

tchrist

REALLY?!

RegDwigнt

I don't think it can handle the temperature.

@tchrist Really.

And I've tried thousands of products by hundreds of manufacturers.

I am qualified.

tchrist

12:20

That's in the local supermarket’s freezer.

RegDwigнt

See, now that is a lie.

That is not Italiano.

tchrist

¿Cómo no?

RegDwigнt

I know Italians. Before they eat veggie sausage, they'll put cut me up and put me on their pizza.

tchrist

RegDwigнt

Grossest name evar?

tchrist

12:21

Well, yes.

RegDwigнt

Grossest image, too.

What is that, a yellow venus flytrap?

Doesn't look very enticing.

tchrist

A cheese-delivery device.

RegDwigнt

OIC that's cheese with cheese on it. Both made of not cheese, since this is America.

tchrist

No tofuerkies were harmed in the making of this picture.

Robusto

Faux turkey.

tchrist

12:23

> 1st NON-DAIRY CHEESE THAT REALLY MELTS

RegDwigнt

@tchrist I dunno, I wouldn't rush to Big Pizza's defense any time soon, but this product photo, to me, looks way worse than the German Salami.

Robusto

@tchrist They make it sound so appealing.

RegDwigнt

Wait, they admit it's not cheese?

In fact the number one of not cheeses?

Fuck it dude, let's go bowlin.

user174558

Too much italics.

RegDwigнt

Too much Jasperics.

Which reminds me.

I must go do some HTMLLLLLLL.

tchrist

12:25

The Tofurky Italian Sausage Fire-Roasted Veggie Pizza is a pizza after the pizza-loving heart of both the eight-year-old me and the grown up me that also likes a little zucchini with my pizza.

I think it’s the faux cheese that fails.

user174558

Hi @TRiG long time.

TRiG

@Jasper Hello.

user174558

@TRiG Someone just called me pedo in the math room, lol.

tchrist

Pedo mellon a Minno. Im Narvi hain echant. Celebrimbor o Eregion tethant. I thiw hin.

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TRiG

12:52

@Jasper How odd.

Mitch

@tchrist all that chipping away at stone, you'd think he wouldn't bother with 'I wrote this'

tchrist

Hic sunt dracones.

Mitch

@Robusto You've just never had good dishrag

tchrist

Isn’t that a cannabis strain?

Mitch

@tchrist That's neither here nor there

@tchrist Yeah. Maui wowee. They first called it Big Island dishrag, but they rebranded.

tchrist

12:56

Dolphin fish.

Mitch

Speaking of rebranding, is there a kind of tuna called 'dolphin' or is that ... um ... rebranding?

tchrist

Mahi-mahi

The mahimahi (/ˈmɑːhiːˈmɑːhiː/) or common dolphinfish (Coryphaena hippurus) is a surface-dwelling ray-finned fish found in off-shore temperate, tropical and subtropical waters worldwide. Also known widely as dorado and dolphin, it is one of two members of the Coryphaenidae family, the other being the pompano dolphinfish. The name mahimahi means very strong in Hawaiian. In other languages, the fish is known as dorade coryphène, dorado, dolphin, lampuga, llampuga, lampuka, lampuki, rakingo, calitos, ti-rone or maverikos. == NomenclatureEdit == The common English name of dolphin causes much confusion...

I HAVE FOUND EL DORADO!

So you only have to drop an S and its singular? — Matt 19 hours ago

@Matt It’s just one more pluralization crise in a long list of them. — tchrist 19 hours ago

RegDwigнt

13:31

@tchrist Pedo bear.

Mitch

13:54

@tchrist that's so intentionally confusing.

"oh we catch dolphin in our nets all the time". "Ewww... you bad man. Dolphin are beautiful creatures and it's cruel to kill and eat someone with a bigger brain than us". "No you've got it all wrong, dolphin is the name of a common fish fish (not the mammal) that is related to tuna.". "Oh so dolphin are OK to eat?". "Well, the tuna related one, we release the mammal dolphin if ever caught".

"Oh. then I'll continue eating this dolphin sandwich". "That's not dolphin, that's young Bobby. Waste not want not".

Also @Gigili knows that 'mahi mahi' is polynesian for fish, and 'mahi' is persian for fish, proving the original common source of Indo-European and Polynesian cultures. DNA analysis has borne this out. They've found that the 10% DNA in Europeans from Homo Neandertalensis is the only substantial difference from the Polynesians where it is almost entirely replaced by DNA matching Homo Floresiensis.

Robusto

14:27

@Mitch Yo mahi-mah.

Gigili

14:56

@Mitch Bad man? batman?

RegDwigнt

15:24

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Q: could anyone explain " would have never "

I understand "would have +past participle" that use in situation something maybe happen but in fact it don't happen but " would have never + past participle " I don't know how to use

would

So, you...
...no, wait.
Um.
Wat.

Mitch

@Gigili Yes. Only bad men would catch the mammal dolphin for food.

RegDwigнt

— "I don't know how to steer the ISS properly." — "Well, then don't".
— "I don't know how to run the United States of America." — "Well, then go watch TV instead".
— "I don't know how to operate a nuclear plant." — "Well, leave it to the people who do".
— "I don't know when to use the word 'never'." — "Well, you totally should, and here's the exactly one simple rule that tells you how to do it correctly 100% of the time".

Mitch

@RegDwigнt What if as president of the united states, you need to use the word to control the nuclear reactor steering the ISS? It's not implausible.

RegDwigнt

But then you are the President of the United States. DUH.

So we already know you can't do any of these things.

Mitch

15:43

@RegDwigнt Wait... that would explain quite a bit. Daughter Malia and son Sacha, all these bulky guys in shades and business suits hanging around me talking into their wrists all the time. Vacations on Nantucket. People keep asking me to sign things and .. gah... give speeches about it. I always thought of that as a funny coincidence.

RegDwigнt

Hm.

Hm hm.

There's a lot of racist jokes in there. Mostly hinging on looking in the mirror and suddenly realizing things. Like why they didn't accept you at KKK. Or that you have such an insanely huge dongle no love interest of yours ever went back.

But be quick to look. If you wait a couple years, that same look will get you the realization you have a trillion for every hair you don't.

Robusto

I think Piggie Veggie was reading our chat about veggie pizzas and sausages and decided to troll us on the main site.

Mitch

@Robusto Now that's racist

RegDwigнt

No, that's not racist enough.

Robusto

No. It's speciesist.

Mitch

15:54

Ooh. I'm so sorry. That's really their name.

Robusto

If pizza can be considered a species.

RegDwigнt

Vegetarians are Hitlers. They make sure everyone gets cancer except themselves. Worst holocaust in history.

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Mitch

My apologies.

Baby Hitler was adorable.

Robusto

Nah, he was a little prick even then.

RegDwigнt

Hitler was a vegetarian, too. Just eff why I.

Mitch

15:55

Well, no more than all the other little whiny bastards

He was a bastard.

literally.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Yeah. You will remember he killed no vegetables in the camps. That was big of him.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto especially at the age of baby. That's when he was vegetarian the most.

Mitch

wait...all these years I've been using 'literally' to mean 'literarily' meaning 'I read it in a book'

RegDwigнt

Yes. And all these years you also didn't know you were running the US and the ISS, and had a large cock.

Where's the news here?

Robusto

@Mitch And I've been using it to mean littorally, thinking I was talking about the seashore.

RegDwigнt

15:57

I was using it clitorally, talking to the seawhore.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt *ruining (ftfy)

RegDwigнt

@Robusto that is just the American spelling of the same word.

Robusto

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Q: What is the best position of 'hardly' in a word?

In our country, students have chance to earn money hardly. is incorrect. Please say why it is incorrect? What is the best position of hardly? Is there any rule for placing hardly, severely, rarely in a sentence?

adjectives

How did this slip under the radar?

RegDwigнt

Wait.

What is the best position of a word inside another word?

What is this incest?

Robusto

fan-hardly-tastic

RegDwigнt

15:59

The best position is infuckingside.

Robusto

It's a question about tmesis.

jinx

RegDwigнt

Jinfuckingx.

Robusto

Bobby Jinxdall.

Mitch

t-fucking-mesis

Robusto

Hey, what's the other Italian sports car mfgr. who is not Ferrari or Lamborghini?

Can't think of it right now.

It's high-end, like those, and it's not Bughatti.

Mitch

16:01

Fiat?

Robusto

Maserati. Thank you.

Mitch

Bulgari?

Versace?

Robusto

We're playing way past that.

Translation: you can stop now.

Mitch

I stopped long ago.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto Alfa Romeo. Lancia. Fiat.

Mitch

16:01

I stopped caring long ago

RegDwigнt

You're caring me apart, Lisa.

Robusto

No, Martin Motors.

RegDwigнt

Sounds like a nice slogan. "No Martin Motors, thanks".

Mitch

Doesn't Fiat own Rolls Royce now? or Porsche or something?

worries it might be Volkswagen

RegDwigнt

No. All are owned by Volkswagen.

Your worries come too late.

Mitch

16:03

oh.

RegDwigнt

And all too little.

Mitch

That's OK. I stopped caring before that so I'm safe.

RegDwigнt

Volkswagen made sure to own everything, so once they go down, which is what's happening right now, they take everything down with them.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Volkswagen—subverting clean-air laws one car at a time.

RegDwigнt

But as a vegetarian without a car, I couldn't care less about everything. MWUAHAHAHAHAHA.

Mitch

16:04

"let me take you down, cause I'm going too, penny-y lane."

RegDwigнt

@Robusto you misspelled "one million cars at a time".

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Did you know you could exchange photos for rides in cars?

RegDwigнt

@Robusto did you know you could exchanged drive-bys for life?

Mitch

takes photo of a car

Robusto

Did you know you could exchange drive-ins for your wife?

RegDwigнt

16:05

takes life of a sandwich

Robusto

Mmm, sandwiches. Emparedados. And it's not yet noon. Hmm.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto I did! But then I became a vegetarian and my brain didn't get enough vitamins and cancer to keep remembering things.

Mitch

also hitler

RegDwigнt

Also Hitler.

Robusto

Feb 3 '11 at 20:07, by Robusto

See, that's why we go over this stuff.

RegDwigнt

16:06

What's that noise? Who's in here?

Robusto

Hmm, not Jasper. Who could it be?

RegDwigнt

16:20

Well whoever it is it's not me. In fact I'll be muting everyone else as well, starting with communists.

user174558

Speak of the angel.

Robusto

17:14

Jasper, you're a moth surrounded by candles in here. Flutter accordingly.

user174558

I am Mariah the butterfly.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者: Marc Maron interviews Elvis Costello on his WTF podcast.

Maron gets some really good guests. Maybe it's because he's such a good interviewer.

He's done Vince Gilligan, Barack Obama, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Keith Richards, John Mayall . . . the list goes on.

tchrist

+1 for Barack Gilligan and Patrick McKellan.

user174558

He's not done me.

Johan Larsson

17:42

roundtrip or round trip?

I had a casing accident where I used both in different places

Robusto

@JohanLarsson I would use two words.

Johan Larsson

I picked one, have to change now I think

it is a method that writes to xml and serializes back btw

to test that serialization works

Robusto

17:59

If it's a method, you could easily just use roundtrip.

I wouldn't camelCase it for that.

Johan Larsson

yeah, did not like it cameled

Mitch

7 hours ago, by Jasper

When I think of Camels, I think of Saudi Arabia.

user174558

18:19

@JohanLarsson To decide, check the dictionary. But this may be a special case.

Johan Larsson

18:41

check dictionary or chat :)

0celo7

19:11

I heard this chat is...rowdy

Robusto

19:40

I always heard it was reserved.

0celo7

@Robusto Very tame?

Robusto

@0celo7 By UFC standards, yes.

But at least we don't go pumping out event notifications ever fifteen seconds.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

20:06

Now it's rowdy in here.

@Robusto ooh.

user174558

20:33

That pic is distracting me.

Gigili

22:09

So many hearts have been broken by the lies of history.

Mitch

22:32

@Robusto In american stories, there is no second act.

It goes straight to act 3 or 4

@Gigili What? Columbus didn't discover America? sobs uncontrollably

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 rowr!

I'll match that and raise:

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