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12:37 AM

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Thought this was pretty funny. From a book of cartoons called Mafalda. Apparently this used to be something like the Argentine counterpart to Peanuts.

@tchrist: Ever heard of it?

No.

Is that supposed to be Lucy?

I'm in a code trance.

@skullpetrol No. It's supposed to be Mafalda.

@tchrist Haven't had one of those in a while. I miss them.

Well @tchrist snap out of it pal :-)

12:41 AM

@skullpetrol In the first frame she says "My God! Flying Saucers!" And in the final frame she says, "And why, having more evolved worlds, did I have to be born on this one?"

@skullpetrol Another win for the men in black, eh?

Lost to the steelers :(

By 3

Oh? I thought they were going to win.

@skullpetrol If you were converting EMV Book 3 and EMV Book 4 into code, your eyes would glaze over, too.

The next two games are the Vikings and lions. @Robusto

True dat @tchrist

We may get over 500 :-)

@tchrist So stultifying they broke the web.

12:55 AM

hm

google hates you

google.com/…

Me? What did I ever do to Google?

well me

Ask not what you did to google but what Google did to you :-)

1:32 AM

Shoot. The pats only won by 17. Am disappoint.

1:49 AM

@Mitch They're pacing themselves.

Was good to see Denver lost to the Colts.

Denver is the only real challenge left in the regular season, but we'll see.

2:13 AM

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Q: What do you call someone with only technical knowledge of sex?

So, I was reading a Futari Ecchi by Katsu Aki the other day and one of the characters is a female gynecologist and at one point the narrator says that she is a ____, meaning she only has a technical knowledge of sex without any experience. Is there such a title, or am I just making things up in m...

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Q: What does “iron-ass” mean?

In New York Times’ (November 7) article under the title, “Poppy Bush finally gives junior a spanking,” Maureen Dowd introduced the following statement of Jon Meacham’s new biography, “Destiny and Power: The American Odyssey of George Herbert Walker Bush. ”While G.W. Bush used to say that what...

meaning american-english slang

@Cerberus Here’s another Romance a partir de example for ya: “Já o presente do subjuntivo é formado a partir do radical da 1a pessoa do presente do indicativo.”

5 hours later…

6:50 AM

@Robusto yup, we will see.

The skins haven't been much of a challenge for Brady & company :-)

Beware of teams that limp into the playoffs at 500 };-)

2 hours later…

9:17 AM

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9:53 AM

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10:30 AM

Hm. So I've been meaning to ask if they were serious about the new Spectre poster and why Daniel Craig is now played by Renee Zellweger.

And so I went searching for images of her for comparison, only to find out she no longer exists.

Instead she's been replaced by her evil non-twin.

What the actual.

who knew?

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:O

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-_-

10:36 AM

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Like seriously.

How is she going to pass airport security ever again.

true dat

There I was thinking at first, Google's search algorithm was broken again, but no.

Like, you google for Obama, and it shows you Bill Cosby, and you go like "WTF that's not the same dude", and it goes "wat, they all look the same to me".

Except this time with white people.

And except this time the white Obama and the white Bill Cosby are the same person.

looks freaky

Hi, I have started writing my 1st degree essay on machine translation, basically machine translation vs human translation.

Do you guys know any helpful sources?

user174558

What kind of sources?

10:40 AM

So anyway. I don't think I feel like making that original joke anymore, but then again for the sake of completeness... because in all fairness, Daniel Craig is played by Renee Zellweger now. The original non-existent one.

books, essays, notes,

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website links, whatever

user174558

@JustynaNogala Well, this is an English site, not a machine translation site. =)

yeah I know but you are talking here about everything anytime.

10:42 AM

I am the wrong person to ask since I hold machine translation in the highest of contempts.

It has never worked, will never work, and can never ever work.

user174558

Alas, I know not of machine translation.

And yes, there are papers and links and notes on that but I don't need them to see the truth for what it is.

So my very own essay on the subject would be very very short.

user174558

I think Reg can help you. He is an expert in translation.

I think Jasper can't read.

He is not an expert in reading what I just said.

user174558

I am an expert in mental illness. I am mentally very ill.

10:44 AM

machine translation will never outrank humans. This is widespread evidence.

yes

but I'm gonna write something to improve

it

user174558

By the way, may I know what your degree is in? Translation?

As I said, my essay would be very very short. But on the plus side, that means I can let you read it right now in its entirety:

Jun 25 '13 at 21:00, by RegDwighт

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user174558

@RegDwigнt Geezis.

user174558

Even I know that is wrong.

Yes. The English word for Friday is Thursday followed by the Unicode code point for switching to uppercase. Never heard of that one before, but I'm sure @tchrist can help.

10:47 AM

By the end of Juli I'll have finished 1st degree in translation.

just give me a hint

user174558

It seems nobody in here can help.

how to subdivide my essay into chapters

Hint: if you are about to major in translation, it is a bad idea to tell people machine translation exists.

Because they will use it. And you will live under the bridge.

heh

All the while their grocery shop signs say "translation server error".

10:49 AM

I'll include this for sure

:D

user174558

Why do you need to know how to subdivide into chapters? Simply divide.

Yes. I thought about grammar mistakes

syntax

and cultural differences that machine translation cannot bypass

user174558

I like my colour.

That's racist.

he's color blind

user174558

10:54 AM

I believe a miracle is about to happen in my life.

@JustynaNogala as they say in German, Einbildung ist auch eine Bildung.

Or as Homer Simpson would say, you can't spell dishonorable without honorable.

user174558

It seems that Barrie England has retired from the site. I wonder if he is alive.

user174558

It is a good time for Captain America to try overtake him.

@RegDwigнt what's the point?

user174558

I have no idea why so many youngsters like to write sin (x) instead of sin x for the sine of x.

11:01 AM

@RegDwigнt do you remember that white guy in a red T-shirt who was talking about a loss in translation on youtube?

user174558

They are going to paint my block soon. It will get a new colour.

Could you give a link to this again?

@JustynaNogala hm. No. Doesn't ring a bell.

Are you saying I was the one who posted it?

I really don't remember any such thing.

Yes it was

Gosh and jeez and oh my word.

I have no recollection of that incident.

11:09 AM

a long time ago, around June

You did post it here

Well should be easy to search for, then. chat.stackexchange.com/…

Not seeing anything yet.

Except this:

Sep 16 at 9:34, by RegDwigнt

Dead Language - Futurama

Nothing much in June, except for more Futurama and Jackass in Mianus.

No redshirts.

I must have been in Juli or August though

Oct 23 '14 at 11:32, by RegDwigнt

Well, here's a redshirt.

Noo xD

It wasn't a cartoon character

Well you see the list. At least I hope you're looking at it. Nothing on there.

11:15 AM

I'm scrolling down too

You must remeber it

Barry White and John Oliver and Patricia Kaas and Van Morrison. Sounds like me alright.

@JustynaNogala and I bet I would, had I indeed posted it.

Which is why I'm thinking I haven't.

That guy runs a youtube channel

gots a lot of videos

Hm. You mean the black guy in Russia? I only ever mentioned him like two weeks ago and never since or before.

Oct 8 2:51 PM, yup.

Not this one, he's nothing to do with it

I'm confused, maybe it wasn't you who posted that.

I don't really post videos on translation much. Or at all.

Because I for one know all the translation already. And whether or not others know all the translation, I don't care.

11:21 AM

just give the link to archives from June to August. I'll find him

I don't think I can break down the list by month. You'll have to page through it manually.

But it's pages 2 through 3 and that's it.

O.k.

Or if you mean the videos by others, just search for youtube without my user handle.

chat.stackexchange.com/…

August is page 6 through 8 but I'm not seeing no redshirts.

Jesus Christ what the hell does @Cerberus post when I'm not looking.

Jul 19 at 14:27, by Cerberus

*March of the Defenders of Moscow* / Marsh zashchitnikov Moskvy

It must have been earlier. I'm on page 11 and still not the least sign of it.

I can't find it, strangely enough -_-

Well maybe it was in a different chatroom on a different Internet in an alternate time string in the parallel Super Mario Galaxy.

11:33 AM

hell no.

Hell is in this galaxy and internet alright.

I got it

What Counts as a Word?

Oh that.

Harr.

I actually did post that. Or perhaps Matt did. But I think it was me.

Jul 14 at 13:45, by TRiG

What Counts as a Word?

Nope, TriG takes the cake.

nevermind

That's what I was looking for.

not exactly in terms of translation but..

What is a word? Impetuous fire. The world wags on.

11:38 AM

linguistics ain't that simple

Linguistics should be made as simple as possible. But not simpler.

12:33 PM

When Germans write Freitagmorgen, the English usually take that to mean Thursday morning.

I blame the Dutch

12:43 PM

@RegDwigнt Don't you like the song?

@Mitch Huh, what?

@tchrist Right, but there it doesn't mean the temporal "from", does it?

But rather the original "from"?

By "original" of course I mean "pertaining to origin".

@Cerberus Good thing you cleared that up. I thought you meant "pertaining to goldfish and/or rubber."

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Q: What do you call someone with only technical knowledge of sex?

So, I was reading a Futari Ecchi by Katsu Aki the other day and one of the characters is a female gynecologist and at one point the narrator says that she is a ____, meaning she only has a technical knowledge of sex without any experience. Is there such a title, or am I just making things up in m...

If @AndrewLeach is so hell-bent on deleting chatty comments, this would be a place to start.

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Q: Size or shape .which one is the best?

Which one is true? a) Your shirt will lose its Size if you wash it . b) Your shirt will lose its Shape if you wash it.

That's one for Physics.SE, ne?

All comments nuked. Comments are to be used to request clarification, not to discuss the question, or to bicker. — Andrew Leach ♦ 16 hours ago

WTG, Andrew, keep on fighting the good fight.

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Q: Why is "women" pronounced as wimin?

Why is "women pronounced as wimin? What is the reason for the first syllable having /ɪ/? What is the reason for the second syllable having /ɪ/?

pronunciation-vs-spelling

Dupe. @RegDwigнt answered this five years ago already.

1:44 PM

@Cerberus haha...well, that's what the data shows. Even if you think that Freitag is by rule Friday, the thousands of instances that made up that translation 'anomaly' tell us what people actually mean when they say stuff.

@RegDwigнt ugh. that one's just a bunch of words.

What's the one where they're climbing up steps for an hour?

@Mitch You're just a bunch of words. Well, not a bunch. A word, a name, gravatar. Take your pick.

1:58 PM

@Robusto looks in mirror. sobs uncontrollably

wipes fog off mirror. cheers up

@Cerberus I wasn't familiar with it as a whole, only two motifs are familiar. The text is so-so. There's much better stuff from that time out there.

@Robusto words are fine, but when there's a cat keeping a dog from walking through a doorway by staring him down, I can't go back.

@Robusto false dichotomy. Clearly the shirt will lose its temper.

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2:43 PM

This room is quiet.

It's always quiet, even when people are talking. Only pings break the silence.

user174558

I have been having strange physical symptoms lately.

user174558

When I am sleeping, my head or oesophagus keeps jerking violently, sometimes.

@Jasper Soon again we'll start another big riot.

@Robusto Words are very unnecessary, they can only do harm.

Attica! Attica! Attica!

2:46 PM

See.

user174558

Maria! Maria! Maria!

Already over seven children are being harmed as you speak.

I blame British English for all our problems.

user174558

Yes, esophagus.

I blame the last British king, tsar Nikolay.

user174558

2:47 PM

Czar.

Good thing the Bolsheviks executed him for executing the English language.

@Jasper no Tcheck in this chat. Also no Polish.

Hmm, Jasper can instruct @Reg on proper transliteration of Russian into English? Hey, can I play too?

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@RegDwigнt Which one is English?

Quick, who's the dead tsar in the picture. You have three tries.

2:50 PM

The Russian one.

user174558

The centre one.

One try left.

They both look like commies to me.

Everything looks like commies to you, Mr McCarthy.

@RegDwigнt Is that some kind of eastern thing?

2:51 PM

What the fuck are you talking about?

user174558

George Clooney keeps appearing in Nespresso ads.

OK, I see you don't want to be cheered up. Come on, Donny, let's get a lane.

I don't roll on shabbas.

user174558

You can't roll on the sabbath.

I can, and do.

2:52 PM

Everything is a fucking travesty with you, man.

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Q: In search of a word or meaning

Is there a word/words that describes when a person is telling you how you feel but in theory it's really how THEY feel?

Good luck on your spiritual quest.

user174558

There is no spirit, therefore no quest.

user174558

I recently learnt that even different versions of a book can have the same ISBN. The publisher too lazy.

My local supermarket has a hundred thousand products, but there are only a million different barcodes for all the products in the world, past, present, or future.

user174558

My local supermarket got closed last month, so now I go to another local supermarket.

2:59 PM

Better use them up before they run out.

So at some point a pack of Snickers and a bar of Camel Lights will have to have the same barcode as the ISBN of your book.

Wrong. Snickers don't come in packs. They come in flocks. "A flock of Snickers." Dumb pineapple.

Wrong. Pineapples don't come in dumbs. They come in khabarovsks. "A khabarovsk of pineapples". Ugly American.

Also, Dude, Camel . . . please, the preferred nomenclature is "Arab-American."

Why is it preferred nomenclature to call yourselves after a long dead Italian that accomplished nothing at all?

3:02 PM

@RegDwigнt Du bist hässlich.

If anything, you should call yourself Genghiskhanians or Macedonians or Stalinists or something.

@Robusto ich bin der Haß.

Nicht ich.

Oder ich nicht.

Oder du auch.

user174558

I think that Robusto=R=RegDwight.

You don't think, therefore you ain't.

dailymotion.com/video/x4mi0l_ich-bringe-die-liebe-mit_music

> Häßlich, ich bin so häßlich, so gräßlich häßlich, ich bin der Haß.
Hassen, so richtig hassen, ich kann's nicht lassen, ich bin der Haß.

3:04 PM

But I disabled my browser. How can I see videos?

@Robusto I'm only noticing this now, but: in search of a word or meaning?

I am searching for an adjective or circus.

Yes. Do not provide both, at your peril.

Please point me in the right direction or adenosine.

@Robusto also, now that it's been a while, I can call your attention to not noticing the deliverate chiasmus.

Maybe that's why you talk like a shit and your fag's all retarded.

It all makes sense now.

@RegDwigнt Deli verité? Truth in delicatessens?

Also I just spelled deliberate with a v because I'm fucking cool.

@Robusto lenk nicht vom Thema ab.

3:08 PM

NO UR EBIL.

You're a bad man. And not thorough.

You're a bad man, tho rough.

I'm a tad van.

You're a vlad man. Putinesque, so to speak.

Meaning, 1/16 Dutch.

@Robusto no. Nobody is a vlad man. The president Vladimir Vladimirovitch took all the vlads there was for himself.

Russian lesson of the day: "Vladimir" means "Owner/ruler/possessor of the world". And he called himself that twice over.

Eat shit, Barrack Osama. Not even close.

3:13 PM

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Putin, shown above. (His little corner of the world shown actual size.)

Sep 25 at 12:43, by RegDwigнt

Романс черепахи Тортилы ("Приключения Буратино")

Copyright infringement.

No old ladies in funny hats in chat.

@Robusto I have to guess the cattail is Syria?

No, the Crimea.

Geez, didn't you study geography?

Where's the Crimea and Punishmea?

Oh jinx.

@Robusto I actually did, yes. Simple past.

3:16 PM

You are a pasta masta.

Geography is moving at the speed of light. Making supersonic man out of me.

Like, who the actual fuck needs South Sudan. Not even South Sudan does.

You'll notice not even Putin is bombing it.

It would be a biritsch too far.

And this you crane, me crane, you crane, me crane, frasier crane, niles crane has been going on for way too many seasons for me to care.

Helo i want write epic novl in englis but i no not any englis word. can u help?

I so don't care I actually prefer to put up with your fucking travesty about Nam.

@Robusto yes. Next question.

3:21 PM

what is englis for mkilaschobö

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A: If I invent a word, what language is it?

If you use the word when speaking English, then it is an English word.

wat is this invent?

This invent is grammar.

Yo gramma.

As an additional benefit, every single of your remarks so far is better than anything George R. R. Martin has, is, or will have been written.

So just string them all together and post them on Amazon.

3:23 PM

There is no question so dumb that someone will not upvote it on ELU.

How else would you continue to lose faith in humanity?

They're gonna kill that poor woman.

Math dictates it is simply not possible after a certain threshold, so ELU must come to the rescue where Math has failed.

@Robusto I can get you a mkilaschobö by three o'clock. With gramma Polish.

I'd rather have the tsarina. Un-Polished.

37 mins ago, by RegDwigнt

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Well you can still pick.

You have one try left.

And that's not a hint to try left.

3:28 PM

Right?

ino

I know. Right?

You can tell he's the ~~czar~~ tsar, he does (or doesn't) wear white.

brian eno - deep blue day

Except the guy on the left looks Russian.

Matt E. Эллен

scartz

3:29 PM

brian eno => one brain

Wait. Everyone except the guy on the left looks Russian?

What is this grammar?

Matt E. Эллен

@Robusto they both look like Steven Fry with a beard and moustache

Except not gay.

They are totally not gay.

Matt E. Эллен

a little gay?

Putin wouldn't allow that.

Matt E. Эллен

3:31 PM

the one on the left has balls on his belt

Except Steven Fry with a beard and moustache would not look anything like Steven Fry with a beard and moustache.

@MattE.Эллен They're way too heavy to be gay.

Gays work out, man.

Matt E. Эллен

:D

15 hours ago, by Robusto

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I still feel that way.

Last time Steven Fry was on Craig Ferguson they talked about gays and Putin for 3 minutes, then about Mengele for 40.

And I was like hiya, that's some quality entertainment right there. No wonder the show's canceled.

3:33 PM

@RegDwigнt Mengele had that in his contract.

@Robusto someone has to do it.

Oh sorry, I mean: alguien tiene que hacerlo.

What, you think I wanted to be in a world where Spanish is a thing?

Al Guien? Is he popular in your country?

Moreso than Al Jarreau.

Doesn't matter, I guess. He had to do it.

Tenía tenía tenía, tú no tenías nada.

Tenía tres ovejas en una caba~na.

Whaaaa, my hot keys no workey?

I quit.

Fucking Linux. Everything is a fucking travesty with it.

3:38 PM

Didn't Linux Pauling win the Nobel Prize or the Golden Globe or something?

The latter.

I am very certain indeed.

Something?

Or something it was.

jinx

That's not a jinx, you were asking me a dumb and rhetorical comprehension question.

USA! USA!

3:39 PM

NOU.

NOU is no country I have heard of. Do they speak American in NOU?

Wut?

Matt E. Эллен

Other people's code. switch(true){

I dare you, I fucking double-dare you, say wut one more time.

Wut?

3:40 PM

@MattE.Эллен Hahaha. OPC yeah you know he! OPC yeah you know he!

@MattE.Эллен it looks like you are trying to, um, something with something by something. Do you need help with that?

Matt E. Эллен

NOU

Naughty by NOUture.

Fettes Brot - Nordisch by Nature (Official)

No fat bread in chat.

3:41 PM

Best music you will hear all day.

Not.

You can have dickes Brot, but no fettes Brot.

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt I'd say yes, but even clippy doesn't deserve to have to deal with Drupal

not that this particular gem is drupal's fault

Please, Drupal is the Framework That Must Not Be Named.

Matt E. Эллен

sorry :D

3:42 PM

Not to mention Druntsc.

Too much exposure to it leads to dementia.

That was such an atrocity.

And then it turned into an atrometropolis.

The technical term is dementia drupalis.

drubarrymore paypalis

In fact, I would suggest you scrub your résumé of any mention of Drupal, in case you unwittingly give offense.

3:46 PM

I am firmly on the fence, so I can't give off fence.

Obama inflicted Drupal on an unsuspecting White House.

That surprises you, how?

> If Drupal were a piece of legislation, it would be the farm bill: desperately in need of an overhaul but unlikely ever to get one because entrenched interests keep the forces of reform at bay.

@RegDwigнt I never said it surprised me.

You are windmilling at tilts.

If Drupal were a drone, it would kill innocent Americans abroad with no trial or jury.

@Robusto "I wish Drupal and the White House nothing but happiness. But..."

"once you scale the learning curve, it gets much easier." Duh.

3:50 PM

"I saw kiamlaluno had lots of reps on Drupal.SE. That is when I knew we had to have OS/2 instead".

Why did they use words to say that when fewer words would need to not be said to say that well.

@Mitch words are my reality, the only kind of real fantasy. Silence is a common thing, I try to live in words. It seems as if it's meant to be.

Who is this complainer?

He's the sidekick of the main mplainer.

@RegDwigнt "I'd rather live in his world than live without him in mine"

"A co-mathematician nverts theorems into ffee"

wait, that's group theory

3:55 PM

Me what may.

@RegDwigнt Such as? I have listened to this playlist:

The Red Army Choir - The Definitive Collection [Full Album]

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