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4:02 PM
@enderland eh?
I love the history of "werewolf"
See, "man" didn't always mean "man". It used to just mean "human". So you have "man" (or "human"), "woman" for the female of the species, and "wereman" for the male of the species. Then it was a natural progression to call a sort of bloke/wolf combo a "werewolf", a term which stuck long after the SJW got their claws on "man" and made everyone think it was synonymous with "wereman" such that nobody's actually allowed to use it any more.
 
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I'm sure there are weremen in some anime.
 
@MichaelT I'm sure that's just disturbing. Sure of it.
 
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Ranma ½ (Japanese: らんま½, Hepburn: Ranma Nibun-no-Ichi, pronounced Ranma One-Half) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Rumiko Takahashi. It was serialized in Weekly Shōnen Sunday from September 1987 to March 1996, with the chapters collected into 38 tankōbon volumes by Shogakukan. The story revolves around a teenage boy named Ranma Saotome who has trained in martial arts since early childhood. As a result of an accident during a training journey, he is cursed to become a girl when splashed with cold water, while hot water changes him back into a boy. Throughout the series Ranma...
 
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@JimmyHoffa I saw anime once in college, years ago. That spoiled it for me: now I run screaming from the concept despite reassurances that not all anime involves tentacles and... stuff.
 
user55340
There is much good anime out there.
 
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4:12 PM
@MichaelT I am sure there is, but I am scarred for life after that experience
 
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Princess Mononoke (Japanese: もののけ姫, Hepburn: Mononoke-hime, "Spirit/Monster Princess") is a 1997 anime epic action historical fantasy film written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki. It was animated by Studio Ghibli and produced by Toshio Suzuki. The film stars the voices of Yōji Matsuda, Yuriko Ishida, Yūko Tanaka, Kaoru Kobayashi, Masahiko Nishimura, Akihiro Miwa, Mitsuko Mori and Hisaya Morishige. Princess Mononoke is set in the late Muromachi period (approximately 1336 to 1573) of Japan with fantasy elements. The story follows the young Emishi warrior Ashitaka's involvement in a struggle between...
 
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This is why the customer is always stupid:
 
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Q: Customer (small non-profit social services organization) doesn't like the term "business logic"

Ed PlunkettI've been hired to do contract programming work for a small non-profit social services organization. In the initial meeting, I used the phrase "business logic" and my contact at the non-profit became very upset, stating that it's "not a business" and "you don't use business logic on homeless peop...

 
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And this one which is heart wrenchingly real world:
 
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Grave of the Fireflies (火垂るの墓, Hotaru no haka) is a 1988 Japanese animated drama film written and directed by Isao Takahata and animated by Studio Ghibli. It is based on the 1967 semi-autobiographical short story Grave of the Fireflies by Akiyuki Nosaka. The film stars Tsutomu Tatsumi, Ayano Shiraishi, Yoshiko Shinohara and Akemi Yamaguchi. Set in the city of Kobe, Japan, the film tells the story of two siblings, Seita and Setsuko, and their desperate struggle to survive during the final months of the Second World War. Grave of the Fireflies received acclaim from film critics. Roger Ebert of the...
 
4:14 PM
@MichaelT I have a Sony A5000
 
@Snowman it's been posted several times doofus
 
one of them in that series anyway
have to get it out to look
I really lik eit
 
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Aside, studio ghilbi is related to the production house that rankin and bass used.
 
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The Last Unicorn is a 1982 American animated fantasy film directed and produced by Arthur Rankin, Jr. and Jules Bass. It was produced by Rankin/Bass Productions for ITC Entertainment, and animated by Topcraft. Based on the novel The Last Unicorn written by Peter S. Beagle, who also wrote the film's screenplay, the film is about a unicorn who, upon learning that she is the last of her species in the world, goes on a quest to find out what has happened to the others of her kind. The film includes the voices of Alan Arkin, Jeff Bridges, Mia Farrow, Angela Lansbury, and Christopher Lee. The musical...
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit Do you expect me to scroll up and read? Too much work!
 
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4:15 PM
@MichaelT - semi-apropos of nothing. Any amazing point & shoot cameras on sale that you know of?
 
user55340
The Hobbit is a 1977 animated musical television special created by Rankin/Bass, a studio known for their holiday specials, and animated by Topcraft, a precursor to Studio Ghibli, using lyrics adapted from the book. The film is an adaptation of the 1937 book of the same name by J. R. R. Tolkien and was first broadcast on NBC in the United States on Sunday, November 27, 1977. == PlotEdit == The plot of the animated production is in most respects similar to that of the book; but certain plot points are significantly compressed or removed due to the time limitations of the format. In additi...
 
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@GlenH7 what is your cost range?
 
user41796
couple hundred +/-
 
user55340
And what do you want to do with the images?
 
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4:17 PM
frame of reference is an iphone 5s
 
user41796
pics of kids, trips, tourist stuff
 
@MichaelT historically, people are weird. Futuristically too, I'm predicting.
 
@GlenH7 I was literally just posting about that :)
 
user41796
No super long range or super close stuff
 
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@Ampt yep, thought I would more directly ping our resident expert too
 
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4:18 PM
@GlenH7 I'm partial to the Nikon 1 cameras or the canon G line.
 
user41796
cool. I'll scope those out and see what I can find then
 
I'd be offended but it's friday, and in 10 days I start getting paid to code again :D
 
@GlenH7 why do you want to take pictures of kids? :/
 
user55340
Nikon 1 has the advantage of interchangeable lenses. It's still point and shoot.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit black mail.
 
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4:19 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm kind of fond of mine. And I have this whole nostalgia thing going on while watching them grow up.
 
@JimmyHoffa and now you're being racist. :(
 
user55340
Btw, the lytor camera is < $100 now.
 
@GlenH7 oh, yours. okay carry on
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 'murrikuh!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit toeing the line?
 
4:20 PM
@Ampt which line? whose toe?
 
> it records light traveling in every direction throughout a scene, not only along 2 axes
dafuq
and this "refocusing" gubbins is suspect too
 
user55340
Yep.
 
user55340
It works.
 
I suppose if it recorded all light hitting the sensor at all angles, maybe
that's hardly "light traveling in every direction throughout a scene" though
 
4:22 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit go look at their gallery online, they have an online flash widget thingy where you can see the pictures in your browser and refocus them all you want
 
user55340
The sensor isn't flat. It has depth.
 
@JimmyHoffa I'm not saying there's no refocus ability. I was saying it was probably faked with trickery.
But we've moved on ^_^
@MichaelT ok
surprisingly inexpensive considering
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well it's certainly not magic, surely they have some trick up there sleeve - but it does provide the claimed results:
 
@JimmyHoffa that's actually kinda creepy lol
 
4:25 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah, pretty neat little toy though
 
might get one
though I'm not supposed to be buying random things at the moment
 
user55340
At sub $100 not a bad one.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sure beats random things buying you O_O
 
wow
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Q: C++ - How can a while loop crash?

Alexandre BlanchetWhen using a loop that ask for an entry as his condition, why does the program crash instantly afterwards? int main() { string NAS, nom, prenom; double nbh, th, brut, ded, net, sbm=0, nbe=0; ofstream data; data.open("result.txt"); while (cin >> NAS >> nom >> prenom >> nbh >> th...

watched that go from 0 to -1 to -2 to -3 while reading it :P
 
that's an SO question isn't it? or should be
 
4:28 PM
This smells like homework
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Q: What is the role of the public folder in web applications that are MVC compliant?

miklMust all the controllers, models and views be placed in the private folders? If so, what are the roles of the public folder? What are the correct terminologies for such roles? How does the GUI relate with such concepts?

This smells like teen spirit
 
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Oh, btw, @LightnessRacesinOrbit @RobertHarvey at one time suggested that all newcomers to the whiteboard watch a particular video...
 
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@enderland leave the team or the company?
 
wooo spotify is buffering
 
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4:32 PM
Oct 7 at 4:17, by Robert Harvey
Newcomers to the room must watch the Spongebob video first.
 
@MichaelT send this to your nonogram friend: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/60690/… cc: @Snowman
 
@MichaelT Spongebob is televisions way of birth control. "you want kids? YOU WILL BE SUBJECTED TO THIS"
 
@enderland how come? you've seemed happy in the past
 
user41796
@MichaelT - are certified refurbished nikon cameras as good (better?) than new? Or should I walk away from that deal?
 
user114359
@durron597 I remember now, I was going to work on that question but got sidetracked
 
4:37 PM
@Snowman my nonogram app, as i get deeper into the top level is starting to get quite big ones. i did a 90x90 the other day
 
@MichaelT WTAF
 
user55340
A refurbished SLR I would go for. Point and shoot... Not so much.
 
user41796
ty. Walk away it is
 
user41796
Found a refurbed nikon 1 S1 (yes, I know it's a generation back)
 
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it's about $50 cheaper than a new S1
 
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4:38 PM
It's about the expected life span of the device. A SLR is a decade or so with the glass multi decade.
 
user55340
A Nikon 1 is in that SLR area.
 
user55340
I was thinking coolpix or the like.
 
user55340
Mirror less interchangeable lenses cameras straddle the line. They are quite reasonable.
 
user41796
Ah, ok. I dug a bit further and found new-in-box S1s for about $10 more than the refurb. Doesn't have prime shipping on that, but shipping fees are comparatively cheap
 
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And in comparing the S1 to the S2, I don't think I'd take advantage of the S2s features as I don't shoot videos very often.
 
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4:40 PM
There is an oddball Nikon 1 that is for underwater.
 
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The AW.
 
I hardly ever use my DSLR any more
I was gonna be an awesome photographer but at some point along the way I just got bored
Pub is more interesting
 
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit you saw my photos from last night?
 
@MichaelT Were they taken in a pub?
 
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Actually two weeks ago... But posted here last night... While drinking cider.
 
4:43 PM
oh I did actually
thought they were CGI
that you were making a game engine
lol
 
user55340
Heh. Nope. Photography.
 
@enderland I totally agree with the sentiment. That affected both my decision to leave this job and my choice of team at the new one.
 
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It's a hobby of mine.
 
4:52 PM
@enderland me neither, thus everything.
 
user41796
@Snowman - that was frosty cold...
 
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@enderland yep, that about sums up my experiences in those situations. But I am good at dealing with that specific situation and it pays well to deal with the headaches, so... meh.
 
@Snowman yeah, I don't really mind, it's good experience but... meh
 
user114359
I definitely sympathize with having fewer headaches regardless of other factors. The stress might not be worth it
 
@Snowman it'd be better if I wasn't doing fairly unengaging and boring work, too...
 
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5:00 PM
@enderland which explains the dead sea
 
@Snowman yah. absolutely
 
5:30 PM
alright I need a change of scenery; I'm OUTTA here
 
Can you do DI without constructor, method or property injection?
Should you?
 
definitely looks like I'm going to have to use Vagrant alongside Docker; tried a few little tricks in my CentOS containers to get 32-bit builds going properly, but I don't think it's flexible/safe enough for now and for future scaling ... and I was already uncomfortable with the hack level, so...
on the upside this'll make it a lot easier to sell to cash-strapped management that we need beefier hardware now
ttylk
 
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@RobertHarvey What other option is there?
 
The guy that wrote JMockit apparently thinks there's another way, but I don't see how.
 
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5:45 PM
@RobertHarvey Maybe bytecode instrumentation? Seems like a roundabout and complex way to do it, but it should be possible. Although, there is an argument to be made that it is a very Rube Goldberg way to do one of the other injection methods you stated.
 
anyone recommend a good Java JSON parser
 
6:27 PM
@Ampt gson
 
lol that's what I just chose to use!
 
jackson is good too but I haven't tried it.
 
@RobertHarvey it frankly doesn't make sense what you're saying. Either the dependency was given as a parameter, or set as a property; there are literally not other ways to pass dependencies around
 
@Ampt I'm probably the guy to ask about it too, is my #5 tag on SO.
 
psr
@JimmyHoffa You could do crazy stuff like rebuild the code to use a test double instead of a real dependency - this doesn't require any changes to the code for the real class, it can think it's calling a hard-coded dependency directly.
 
6:38 PM
@psr what does "hard-coded dependency" even mean? is it a property? Did something set it? Did it get set by a parameter? I don't even know what's going on anymore. Maybe the guys calling ServiceLocator "injection"
maybe he's invented an alternate reality where nothing makes sense and my world is an ocean of pudding full of spaghetti fish
 
@durron597 so is the best way to handle it to just make a class for everything you expect in your Json string?
 
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@JimmyHoffa i can haz pudding?
 
user41796
Thanks. Much tastier than the disparate conversations and video watching that's going on around me.
 
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6:46 PM
 
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i can haz cat pickshurz?
 
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@Ampt yes
@JimmyHoffa That looks just like my cat.
 
does it just explode if everything isn't a perfect 1:1 match?
 
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6:50 PM
@durron597 Mine too. Standard black and white cat, you can find a zillion of them on the shelves at Wal-Mart
 
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Nyan Cat and the FSM in the same meme!
 
dank.
 
6:52 PM
@Ampt it's pretty graceful actually. You can use the @SerializedName annotation if you want things to be less 1:1, and you can use a custom serializer / deserializer if you want more complicated differences.
 
interesting.
I don't think that will be a problem - all the data is from one source and is fairly well standardized
but it's always something to consider.
 
public class VeracodeServiceImplTest {


@Tested(fullyInitialized=true)
VeracodeServiceImpl veracodeService;
@Tested(fullyInitialized=true, availableDuringSetup=true)
VeracodeRepositoryImpl veracodeRepository;
@Injectable private ResultsAPIWrapper resultsApiWrapper;
@Injectable private AdminAPIWrapper adminApiWrapper;
@Injectable private UploadAPIWrapper uploadApiWrapper;
@Injectable private MitigationAPIWrapper mitigationApiWrapper;

static { VeracodeRepositoryImpl.class.getName(); }
...
}
 
I commend your efforts, but I think the chat app is winning
 
6:58 PM
is that how DI normally works?
 
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@JimmyHoffa That cat looks very content. Probably because it is inside of a box.
 
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... And now I know enough about promises to get my code working and be dangerous.
 
@MichaelT after you make all your promises....
 
user55340
Had that for a little bit.
 
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7:09 PM
Had an async call in a method that was a dependent, but wasn't updating data before it was done. Of course broke points make it work.
 
user55340
Just doing when($.ajax(...), $.ajax()).done(...) now.
 
asynchronicity in general is the sort of thing you have to read a book about before using, though promises are one of the better interfaces for it
 
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@Ixrec I recall seeing a Java 1.0 implementation back in college.
 
7:11 PM
 
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7:40 PM
@enderland What would be truly evil is writing all your code with those homoglyphs but then having a pre-processing layer that swaps out the correct characters for your compile.
 
psr
7:50 PM
@JimmyHoffa Somewhere your code refers directly to another class, where that class is not injected.
 
psr
@enderland That will stop people from cut and pasting SO code snippets.
 
psr
Friday afternoon, cat memes and coffee fumes.
 
user41796
Squirrel!
 
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8:21 PM
@RobertHarvey I prefer field injection- less code I have to look through. Mostly do I can add new ones when needed without modifying a constructor and every XML file that relates to it.
 
I can tell it is Friday :)
 
@GlenH7 this is pure. PURE. evil
if you are on the build team, you could somehow make your build work for 90% of users every day, based on some hash of their username or something, and then cause ridiculous confusion
 
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@enderland Isn't it though?
 
user41796
Can't think of a better way to teach someone a lesson about not crossing the wrong people...
 
psr
8:39 PM
@GlenH7 If you're going to do that, don't forget to make your pre-processing layer skip the homoglyphs that must remain homoglyphs to avoid having terrible things happen at run time.
 
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@psr escape sequences for the real ones
 
psr
@Snowman No, you want them to like the other ones in the source code. That way when they run the generic homoglyph->expectedglyph converter they will think it worked.
 
hmmm have any of you ever had a time when windows doesn't seem to update it's "available drive space" correctly and gives out of disk errors even if the total size of all files on the drive is way less than the space on the drive?
also
those
get
cats
off
my
 
user41796
Just delete them
 
user41796
deleting a message doesn't count against a user
 
8:45 PM
but there are more above them lol
 
user41796
flagging does
 
it's like a never ending troll
 
user41796
Abuse the diamond. Feel it's power coursing through you
 
psr
Also, deleting a user doesn't count against them because at that point there isn't a user for it to count against.
 
user114359
You want to delete those cat pictures after all the work @JimmyHoffa went through to comb Google Images for them?
 
8:48 PM
@Snowman just one, so I can have this on a second monitor and not feel totally awkward if someon ewalks by
 
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@enderland I have a Linux ext4 partition doing this now. I have about 2 kb of files (including directories) but 70 mb reported as in-use. Nothing hidden, and as root I cannot see anything
 
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Today's diamond woes: A user asks an off-topic question and I migrate it to another site that has hundreds of similar questions, where it should have been answered more quickly. But of course, it's rejected. OP chooses to whinge at me about it not being off-topic.
 
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@enderland I have to scroll up more than an entire screen on my second monitor to get to a cat picture.
 
user41796
@enderland did you try emptying the recycle bin? (gotta get the OS right)
 
user114359
df -h STOP LYING TO ME!!!
 
8:49 PM
@Snowman yeah, it's annoying, I can see a process writing about 70gb worth of data (lol) but the total size of everything is still only 36gb about, but the drive space goes down a fair bit as if it's writing all that filespcae
@GlenH7 it's a specific drive, not sure how to handle that
@GlenH7 but that's promising
well it has a max space of 7gb
so presumably it'd blow stuff away after hta tpoint
 
user41796
hard to say. Windows management of disk space has always been a bit stupid
 
user41796
much better in recent versions, but generally stupid
 
this is an older version of windows server afaik
NT 6.0
 
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Q: Add the lang-mumps module from Prettify

senshinAs of late, I have been writing a number of answers on CodeGolf.SE, using MUMPS (or a close variant) as my language of choice. MUMPS tends to look remarkably like line noise, whether or not you're trying to golf it. Some syntax highlighting sure would help. Luckily! The main Prettify repository...

^^^ important feature request
 
user41796
+1 if only so that I can say that I voted in favor of something supporting MUMPS. Codegolfing is bad enough. Codegolfing in MUMPS simply takes it to a new level. — GlenH7 15 secs ago
 
psr
8:56 PM
@gnat ABOUT.DAMN.TIME!
Code golfing in MUMPS usually stinks because it has zero standard libraries. And no powerful language features. And it's MUMPS.
 
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Q: Green fields, blue skys, and the white board - what is too broad?

MichaelTI've been accused of having questions that are too blue sky-y or green fieldy and not white boardy enough. What does this mean and why do those questions get closed?

 
user114359
Is that subject line misspelled?
 
user114359
Shouldn't it be "blue skies"?
 
user41796
@Snowman yes
 
user41796
and whiteboard should be one word
 
user114359
9:01 PM
Just wondering because of funky language rules. I fixed it.
 
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Q: Green fields, blue skies, and the whiteboard - what is too broad?

MichaelTI've been accused of having questions that are too blue sky-y or green fieldy and not white boardy enough. What does this mean and why do those questions get closed?

 
user114359
I blame @MichaelT for that assault on the English language :-)
 
@GlenH7 no in this context two words for whiteboard look intended play of words: green, blue, white. @Snowman please consider this
 
hmm I guess there are in use "0kb" files which must take up considerable disk space (they are in use and related to the processes running)
I wonder how a file can be written but not have any update on the size from windows perspectiev
 
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@gnat well it can be edited back easily enough
 
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9:02 PM
@gnat Would need to be "white boards" then
 
user41796
> Green fields, blue skies, and white boards - what is too broad?
 
@GlenH7 that one is really tricky. To me, board still feels like a better fit than boards here (but that's totally subjective)
 
user41796
The article "the" makes it problematic though. The singular board breaks the pattern of plurals preceding it. So you lose a bit of the play
 
psr
@gnat Me too.
 
user41796
As it's @MichaelT's question, he probably ought to get to weigh in on the wordsmithing too
 
user41796
9:05 PM
... and the big, empty, omg-it's-scary-blank, white board - what ...
 
@GlenH7 plural makes a weaker connection to original (white board is easier to grok as reminder of whiteboard)
 
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@gnat I can see that perspective as well. As it's rare for most to have multiple whiteboards available.
 
"a whiteboard"
 
user41796
I've got two of them in my cube, but that's only because I scavenged one
 
now I want to edit to have "a whiteboard"
 
9:11 PM
@GlenH7 I suspect that he will say that the only correct spelling of that title is Stop dumping the f#cking broad questions at Programmers front page
 
user41796
True dat
 
psr
@enderland for consistency, it should be a white broad.
 
@psr white bread or white beard?
 
user41796
grey beard, duh
 
psr
@gnat "Green beards, blue beards, and white beards, what is too beard?" might be acceptable.
 
user114359
9:14 PM
Don't eat green or blue bread
 
user114359
although banana bread with blueberries is fine
 
white, as long as it's long...
 
psr
Or "too $ beards >>= [green, blue, white]" if we want to be concise.
DRY beards are important
 
user41796
Am I too cynical or is this an invitation to download some malware?
 
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A: Do bare computer systems (without OS installed) use (executable) files?

HydranixMachine code is just a series of bits which can be though of as raw bytes of hex. To execute a bare metal program on an x86 device, you place your program at the very beginning of a physical storage device that the BIOS is capable of booting from. The first step in the boot process is executing...

 
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10:10 PM
Hmm. DCF (Department of children and families) is hiring a web project lead / developer. No, I'm not interested.
 
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