English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

2:12 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Idiom/Phrase/Proverb to describe a scenario where a person who saved me from a bad habit has now fallen into the the same habit by jeff on english.stackexchange.com

skill patrol

8:43 AM

@Cerberus I think I figured out how the program selects the "highlights." It uses a combination of starred messages and if there are no starred messages then it uses the specific user requesting for highlights @ messages to highlight.

RegDwigнt

10:39 AM

That is essentially how it works, yes. With two minor corrections: 1. it rolls a pair of dice to figure out what to show and 2. it then shows something else entirely.

skill patrol

sounds like gambling

Mitch

11:33 AM

You know how they developed Narcan, essentially an antidote to opiate overdose? Well where the hell is the antidote to alcohol overdose?

We're making plans to put people on Mars but not an antidote to car deaths.

takes a drink

Matt E. Эллен

Starting afresh can seem easier than fixing things

Mitch

Every time Mitch makes sense, you're supposed to drink a shot.

unclear whether drink now or not

Starting fresh isn't fixing things?

Wait what is starting fresh? Creating people from scratch and waiting to see if they develop alcohol?

@MattE.Эллен do you listen to the radio? If so, what channel? Is it music or news?

Matt E. Эллен

only if you created the last lot of people who got alcohol poisoning

@Mitch sometimes. music mostly

RegDwigнt

Starting fresh is creating a company named fresh.

Matt E. Эллен

my girlfriend has Jack FM on when she's driving

Mitch

11:41 AM

Well that's listening to the radio I guess

RegDwigнt

Jack has my girlfriend on when he's driving.

Mitch

And wth is Jack radio?

RegDwigнt

Jack Set Radio.

Mitch

Your girlfriend is acting up. Then you should take her friend

2

RegDwigнt

And then you should fake her trend.

Mitch

11:43 AM

You nasty!

RegDwigнt

New arse tea!

Mitch

Un momento por favor

RegDwigнt

So who is Ed Sheeran and why should I care?

Mitch

El buen momento pasado

RegDwigнt

Spiegel tells me I should listen to him because he's friends with Taylor Swift. Also, because Reg Dwight once said "I'm so proud of him". Which is a stinking lie if you ask me.

Mitch

11:47 AM

You would know, right? Isn't Taylor Swift your girl's friend? TS has been acting up lately

RegDwigнt

I don't know who Taylor Swift is, nor why I should care.

I think it's someone with no voice or tits, but I could be mistaken.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен hey jack fm is from California. That's not very patriotic

Quit tit shaming, you tit bully

But no she has a voice.

Unlike the downtrodden

So are Lourdes and Lord the same person with slightly different names?

Or the same person with slightly different names?

Robusto

@RegDwigнt That could describe anybody, including Justin Bieber.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto well. Are you trying to imply there's a significant difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber?

skull petrol

12:02 PM

Taylor Bieber?

RegDwigнt

And don't say "Taylor Swift never urinated into a trashcan". Because you don't know if that's actually true.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt That's like asking me if there's a difference between Schlitz Malt Liquor and Grain Belt beer. I'll never know, because I'll never do what it would take to find out.

RegDwigнt

Mon point exactement.

Robusto

You seem to be missing the fact that journalists don't always prove their contentions. — Robusto 1 min ago

RegDwigнt

Please excuse my horrible accent.

skull petrol

12:04 PM

Excused.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto nice litotes.

Gigili

Do you prefer to keep an air of mystery about yourself?

PBH, APDTTMSFSU.

Robusto

Not me. I keep, variously, airs of insouciance, camaraderie, hostility, and inebriation.

RegDwigнt

ИМХО велмог тра-ля-ля

Robusto

Don't make me bring out Trolling Saruman again . . .

RegDwigнt

12:09 PM

@Robusto holding it in is unhealthy.

Robusto

I vent them as needed. Doctor's orders.

Hahaha, looks like the SC broke the build, then went on holiday.

When they don't work, nobody works.

RegDwigнt

git commit
git push
git run

Robusto

git commit -m "Holiday come in morning, must get code in"
git push
git gone

FTFY

RegDwigнt

Git sucks so much. Even a simple commit-and-run now takes an additional step. WTF.

They make the most basic things needlessly complicated.

@Robusto FTFY is no command I've heard of. Do they speak English in FTFY?

Robusto

Yeah, but I'm coming to prefer git. Things don't get fucked up as much, and they're easier to fuck up, and to not understand when you're fucking up, but there are many ways to recover from problems.

@RegDwigнt git TFOOH

a/k/a "git the-fuck-out-of-here"

That was no lady. That was my wife.

RegDwigнt

12:17 PM

@Robusto just the other day I wanted to add an all-new file, in an all-new directory, to an existing git I always have lying checked out on my local drive. Git wouldn't let me. It forced me to update my checked out copy first.

I wanted to check in 38kB. It forced me to instead check out 4GB.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt functions-as-designed

RegDwigнt

@Robusto my point exactly. functions-as-shit

Robusto

Then you must walk the earth like Kane in Kung-Fu.

RegDwigнt

I have no use for the 4GB. What the fuck. Seriously.

Matt E. Эллен

that sounds like you're doing it wrong.

RegDwigнt

12:18 PM

That sounds like git's doing it wrong.

Robusto

It doesn't have to imply those things to be used to describe them. But chewed gum is not important enough to have a word solely used to describe it. You're barking up the wrong tree if you think that's what this is about. — Robusto 10 hours ago

Attack of the literal minds.

That never happened before on ELU.

Matt E. Эллен

I'm too hungry to figure out how you got to that situation. bbl

Robusto

You always have to pull if there are differences on the remote repository that you don't have yet.

RegDwigнt

Yeah yeah you just run away in the hopes we'll forget about this by the time you return. But we will not!!! Muwahahaha.

@Robusto but there can be no differences if I'm adding an all-new directory.

All it has to check for if the parent directory I am adding the new directory to still exists in the master.

The sibling directories are completely irrelevant to anything at all.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt There could be dependencies in the new directory to other things.

RegDwigнt

12:21 PM

Hm. Like what? Symlinks?

That's a fair point I guess, but if it knows for a fact all I'm adding is a 38k of plain text, then come on.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt It doesn't know that. For it to understand your code contributions it would have to be way smarter than anyone can yet make it.

RegDwigнt

It's no code.

Which is probably the root of the problem right there.

Robusto

If you were simply to add a comment in one file it would do the same thing.

RegDwigнt

Yes. But if you do the same dumb thing always, doesn't make it any less dumb.

Like, killing a Tibetan monk before breakfast is a no-no, but always killing a monk before a meal is A-okay.

Robusto

Well, I agree that it is dumb. But it's a DSCS, not a compiler, so it may be excused for that.

RegDwigнt

12:27 PM

I can only excuse it for as long as I actually happen to have the space it needs to use up.

Robusto

Still, this is a matter of setting expectations. Did you really expect your pet cat to read the newspaper?

RegDwigнt

But theoretically, the next time I submit a 1kB text file, it can make me check out 50TB.

Robusto

That is true.

If you don't have the room on your drive, you should tell TPTB, or send your changes to someone who does and have them check it in.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto what is a "newspaper"?

I think I've heard of "paper" before...

Robusto

It's an old-fashioned term for something that doesn't exist anymore.

RegDwigнt

12:30 PM

Hm. I'll stick with James Brown, thank you.

So anyway.

Yes, I do expect my pet cat to read the James Brown.

Which might be part of the reason my pet cat packed his shit and left.

Robusto

BTW, I am growing increasingly disenchanted with doing translation exercises in Spanish on Duolingo.

RegDwigнt

Congratulations! You are now 68% disenchanted with all Spanish texts!

Robusto

No matter what I put down, someone always comes along and moves a comma, or capitalizes a word that didn't need capitalization, or coerces my fluid English into Google-Translation-speak, or whatever.

RegDwigнt

Congratulations! You are now only 79% new to the Internet!

Robusto

There is no human need greater than the urge to ~~change~~ alter someone else's wording.

RegDwigнt

12:33 PM

Well. That's because you talk like a fag and your shit is all retarded.

Robusto

I don't expect my shit to be very smart.

But at least I don't try to check it into a git repository.

RegDwigнt

I suppose that's a crucial part of the job description for fag.

Robusto

I fart in your general direction.

Mitch

@Robusto don't worry about it. It's just a big sandbox. for everybody to get practice (doing there own wrong thing)

RegDwigнt

@Robusto that's the worst part about it all. It wasn't my shit I was checking in. It was someone else's. And it wasn't me who wanted it checked in. It was someone else.

Robusto

12:37 PM

Then get them to do it.

They only wanted you to do it so they wouldn't have the extra 3 TB on their drive.

RegDwigнt

Yeah.

Gigili

12:52 PM

That's loser talk.

skull petrol

Money talks.

Mitch

Monkeys talk. You just gotta know how to listen

Gigili

I don't need to listen to the monkeys

Robusto

1:11 PM

The Monkees- Hey Hey We're The Monkees.

►

Oh yes you do.

RegDwigнt

Don't want no short people round here.

Robusto

Randy Newman - Short People

►

Randy Newman agrees with you.

RegDwigнt

Thank you.

I didn't realize that.

Robusto

They got little hands / little eyes / they walk around tellin' great big lies

RegDwigнt

I only ever posted that video five times here. Never stopped to notice the similarities.

Striking!

Robusto

1:14 PM

Oct 28 '14 at 12:31, by Robusto

Hey, who reads your shit? Also, who reads it twice?

Much less five times.

skull petrol

lol

RegDwigнt

We're rednecks, we're rednecks, and we don't know our ass from a hole in the ground.

Robusto

they got little cars goin' beep beep beep / little voices goin' peep peep peep

RegDwigнt

Oh come on you gonna quote the whole thing?

Robusto

Just selected bits. Keep your shirt on.

Gigili

1:16 PM

You gotta quote the whole thing or the whole thing will quote you.

Robusto

Reg's shirt ^

RegDwigнt

@Robusto hat. Not shirt. Hat.

Robusto

Too late, he already took it off.

Just like Putin.

RegDwigнt

I have kept my hat on.

Robusto

What's next, a horse?

RegDwigнt

1:17 PM

You got troubles and I got 'em too. There isn't anything I wouldn't do for you. You got a friend in me.

Robusto

Hey, you ate my friend!

RegDwigнt

Well... uh... I mean, yes yes.

@Robusto wtf does that even say?

Robusto

You're the commie, you tell me.

RegDwigнt

@Gigili if you quote enough of the abyss, the abyss will quote into you.

Robusto

In fact, it looks like it starts with "muti" which is what you do with commies every single freakin' day.

And a dobro is a steel guitar, and bro is "bro" QED

RegDwigнt

1:19 PM

@Robusto it says muti dobro bro. I can only guess they mean Ornella Muti and the bro from Don't taze me bro, but I've no idea what the hell dobro is.

Robusto

Look up one line

RegDwigнt

Who reads your shit.

@Robusto I don't get it.

Robusto

RegDwigнt

Explain it to me like I'm a five-year old Russian.

Robusto

There's a dobro.

RegDwigнt

1:21 PM

That's a banjo pretending not to be a banjo. And failing.

Robusto

Sep 28 '12 at 15:15, by RegDwighт

But enough with this, time to mute commies.

RegDwigнt

Oh that.

I see I see you're trying to make jokes of your own now.

Sorry caught me unprepared.

I thought you were really explaining shit here.

Robusto

Lil red rooster, SLIDE GUITAR DOBRO RY COODER CROSSROADS

►

Guy on the left is playing a dobro.

SOOOO not a banjo . . .

RegDwigнt

In Germany before the war there was a man who owned a store, in 1934, in Düsseldorf.

@Robusto which was exactly what I said?

Robusto

But it never tried to be a banjo. So not exactly what you said.

RegDwigнt

1:24 PM

You don't know that. You never met it in person.

tchrist

Tengo una tía que toca la guitarra.

RegDwigнt

Are you Evan the Almighty or what? It wrote you an email listing all the things it did and didn't do in its life?

Robusto

Howlin' Wolf - Little Red Rooster ( Chess )

►

There, a better version of Little Red Rooster

RegDwigнt

Not hard. Every version will be better than that version.

tchrist

Ése no es ninguna tía mía.

RegDwigнt

1:25 PM

It's like they took acoustics and then never heard of them.

Robusto

@tchrist Pensé que las tías de todo el mundo tocan la guitarra.

tchrist

smells a troll

Robusto

room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Now with 0% more highlights [we-are-the-worst]

RegDwigнt

When Howlin Wolf grew up he renamed himself Steppenwolf and started writing actual music.

tchrist

Oh wait, that was Rob not Reg.

RegDwigнt

1:27 PM

Hard to smell a troll when there's so many of them around.

Robusto

Why are you smelling trolls? Is that some kind of sexual fetish?

RegDwigнt

Why are you asking rhetorical questions? What you want, an answer?

tchrist

You subject and verb don’t agree. I thought it was Reg trolling me.

Robusto

@tchrist Me subject and verb?

I pluralized aunt at the last minute and then forgot to change the verb.

tchrist

It has to be at least tocan, although many would write tocaban there.

Robusto

1:29 PM

That's what happens when I edit my shit.

@tchrist Look again!

RegDwigнt

@tchrist And it was. I crafted a nice letter and sent it to Rob ahead of time. He's typing it off now. I sprayed some Chanel No 4711 on the paper, hence the smell.

tchrist

What you prefer that others edit it? :)

Robusto

No. It means I should recognize that I always get it right the first time, and the only time I fail is when I doubt that.

RegDwigнt

After all, he can write 98% of all Spanish texts.

Robusto

I can write OVER 9000% of all Spanish texts. If they don't actually have to make sense.

RegDwigнt

1:31 PM

In fact you've written OVER 9000 such texts already. You even used English to make sure they made no sense in Spanish.

Dedication, devotion, turning all the knight thyme into a gay.

Robusto

In fact, I am actually writing everything in Russian now, and failing. You only perceive it as English.

RegDwigнt

I do not perceive anything.

Robusto

Tru dat.

RegDwigнt

Most of all I fail to perceive any payments of $3000.

Robusto

@tchrist Why would it be past imperfect there?

tchrist

1:33 PM

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Q: English language use of my or I

Would you say: My family and I's needs or my family and my needs

@Robusto Well, the first clause is in the preterite.

It‘s a little jarring to mix it. But we have those questions.

Robusto

In English we could say "I thought everybody's aunt plays the guitar" with no trouble. Not true for Spanish?

tchrist

No, people do say that. But others don't.

RegDwigнt

Well in English you could say "I thought she plays", but in Proper English [TM] you actually say "I thought she played".

tchrist

It's the "Columbus didn't say the earth is flat" thing.

RegDwigнt

Yup.

He didn't know where New Jersey was.

Did you know Fred was a doctor.

And others.

Robusto

1:42 PM

Eso es exactamente lo que quería saber. Pero ya lo sabia.

RegDwigнt

Jajaja.

And now you're stuck forever contemplating if I was speaking Spanish or German.

Which was the very reason why i lernd all teh language's. Muwahahaha.

Robusto

Interesting note: I heard that Spanish speakers sometimes amuse themselves at the expense of gringos by saying "jajaja" and pronouncing the j the way a gringo would. I can only assume they don't have video games or TV where they live.

RegDwigнt

Interesting note: the joke was first introduced by George Lucas in Episode I.

Robusto

Muwajajajaja.

Which is spanish for LOL.

RegDwigнt

2:05 PM

Apr 14 '11 at 12:38, by RegDwight

Das kommt mir spanisch vor!

Robusto

Frisch weht der Wind
der Heimat zu:
mein spanisch Kind,
wo weilest du?

Gigili

Isn't "spanisizosich" the correct spelling?

RegDwigнt

Im Puff.

@Gigili it is a spelling.

What is it you are trying to spell?

Robusto

@RegDwigнt Puff die Zauberdrache?

RegDwigнt

If you're trying to spell Obama, say, then you could do better.

@Robusto der. Dragons are male, you gay feminist.

Robusto

2:08 PM

@RegDwigнt Seriously? Then dragons are female everywhere but Doucheland.

RegDwigнt

Not in English. In English, nobody has sex.

Gigili

@RegDwigнt Actually I'm not trying to spell, I'm trying to help you improve your German spelling skills.

Robusto

In fact, dragons never came up in conversation when I was in Germany.

RegDwigнt

My German spelling skills are better than those of 100% of the people on this site, thank you.

Yes, 100%. That includes myself.

That's just how good I am.

Robusto

Spelling German ain't hard. It's remembering all the noun genders. The useless, stupid noun genders.

tchrist

2:10 PM

What about the other ones?

Gigili

@RegDwigнt Das hatte ich mir schon gedacht.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto Yeah yeah blah blah.

Robusto

Jajajaja, blablablabla.

RegDwigнt

Und so ergab es sich, daß Robusto tollte und trollte bis zum Sanktnimmerleinstag.

Gigili

Richtig.

Robusto

2:11 PM

@RegDwigнt ...

Gigili

nods head

tchrist

@Robusto la

RegDwigнt

@Robusto y tus maletas en la puerta.

Gigili

(it wasn't me)

tchrist

Or is this somebody else’s head up his butt?

Robusto

2:12 PM

No it is his head.

RegDwigнt

Wir werden's nie erfahren!

tchrist

@Robusto Then you don’t use tu, just la.

RegDwigнt

Lalala, I can't hear tu.

Oh I see Rob's switched to txtspk. Fine.

@Robusto ?

Robusto

@tchrist Tienes su cabeza en la culo? But culo is masculine in the dictionary.

RegDwigнt

You're masculine in the dictionary.

And nowhere else.

Robusto

2:15 PM

I have children. That's masculine enough for my needs. Let me know when you stop being gay and have some of your own.

RegDwigнt

It should be noted that culo is German for a ballpoint pen.

@Robusto why would I let you know? Obviously I haven't, so why should I change that?

Robusto

No, that's boligrafo and it's Spanish. Stop mixing up words. And languages.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto no, you're boligrafo and you're Spanish.

tchrist

*bolígrafo

From the Bolígraf Revolution.

RegDwigнt

Robusto speaks without an accent.

Robusto

2:18 PM

@tchrist How is that different from what I had?

RegDwigнt

Robusto also no has eyes.

Robusto suddenly can't understand 83% of all Spanish text.

tchrist

I should say it’s his eyes that are the problem.

Robusto

Oh. Well, how the fuck am I supposed to see tiny tittles in Arial at 10 pt?

RegDwigнt

By using eyes.

It's those holes in your head you don't stuff pie in.

Robusto

I don't put pie in my nose.

3

RegDwigнt

2:19 PM

That's a start.

What you want, a medal?

tchrist

@Robusto You never say tienes su cabeza. You also never say tienes tu cabeza.

RegDwigнt

There, have a star.

rolls eyes

Robusto

Apr 17 '14 at 13:51, by Robusto

I do want a medal.

tchrist

roles arrrrrse

RegDwigнt

@Robusto well sucks to be you, a star it is.

tchrist

2:22 PM

When You Wish Upon A Star - sung by Jiminy Cricket (Cliff Edwards)

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Robusto

@tchrist OK, I agree I fucked that one all up. This was because I started to write Usted tiene su cabeza, then changed it to tienes but forgot the tu and also the number agreement and all that and it was meant to be dashed off but aiaiaiai I clearly clearly fucked it into cocked hat now what you wanna to beat me up about it forever? we wanna know!

tchrist

la la la la la la la la la la

RegDwigнt

Wait, beating you forever is an option?

I'm in!

Robusto

I knew it.

RegDwigнt

You knew nothing.

Least of all it.

And you still don't.

Robusto

2:24 PM

You need to find something to beat besides your meat.

RegDwigнt

I'm not beating yours, if that's what you're asking for.

Robusto

I thought you were geh for peh.

If I gave you $3000 you would.

RegDwigнt

Oct 16 at 13:36, by RegDwigнt

You're so gay, you probably think this song is about you.

tchrist

Offer and honor.

RegDwigнt

There, I just misspole least as less. You happy now, you monster?

Some people.

tchrist

2:26 PM

@RegDwigнt 1775 S. J. Pratt Liberal Opin. cxxxiii. (1783) IV. 203 ― They are a set of fellows who are not worth a resurrection, and therefore God rest ’em and rot ’em for us.

Robusto

Ach, lieber Südwind, blas noch mehr!
Mein Mädel verlangt nach mir!
Hohojo! Hallohoho!
Jollohohoho! Hohoje!
Hallohoho! ho ho ho ho ho ho!

See, most of German is just hollering.

RegDwigнt

Does God rot 13 them?

@Robusto Jesus Christ, you are gay.

"Blow even more", he said.

No manners at all.

Robusto

Ich Sarumantrolle dich.

RegDwigнt

I am the original Russian troll as seen on TV as seen on YouTube.

You can't beat that. Let alone your meat.

tchrist

Not so much dich in this chat.

Robusto

2:29 PM

There is an American sporting goods chain called Dick's Sporting Goods, and they had trouble because their first domain name was dicks.com.

People would come there not looking for tents, shall we say.

tchrist

So the lesbians stopped buying sensible shoes from them?

Robusto

No, that continued.

RegDwigнt

Dich is Russian for hoghwash, BS, cretinism. Also, for game as in quarry.

Robusto

You're game for pame.

RegDwigнt

Your Padme is all Binks.

Robusto

2:30 PM

jarjarjarjar

RegDwigнt

Précis.

tchrist

No binkies in this chat.

RegDwigнt

Sadly.

Gigili

Sad lee

RegDwigнt

Lee's not sad. Lee is dead. Trololololol, lololol, lololol.

Robusto

2:37 PM

10 mins ago, by Robusto

See, most of German is just hollering.

RegDwigнt

That's Russian, you dummy.

Middle-Earth Russian, even.

Just because you can't spell Prussian without Russian, doesn't mean Prussians can't.

Robusto

You can't spell Preussen without Reussen, either.

RegDwigнt

Hm. Now that you mention it: I never tried!

BRB

Well, this just in: Robusto was partially not quite wrong.

Robusto

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Q: What is the French translation of induced subgraphs?

Good afternoon! I'm a French student studying graph theory and I encountered a translation issue while helping a boy on the math.stackexchange site. A vertex-induced subgraph (sometimes simply called an "induced subgraph") is a subset of the vertices of a graph G together with any edges whose en...

mathematics

Wut?

RegDwigнt

Yes. "Wut?" is one French translation.

But you have to spell it "Ouhâtte ?"

Robusto

2:42 PM

Also, it is about math not English.

RegDwigнt

As Leibniz said, English is just the soul's exercise in math.

Or something.

Robusto

Do the French even have a W in their language?

Don't forget, W hated their guts.

RegDwigнt

Yes. Le weekend.

Robusto

Even banned french fries from cafeterias.

RegDwigнt

It even started appearing on their license plates of late.

The W, not the fries.

The fries have always been there on their plates.

Robusto

2:44 PM

@RegDwigнt Careful, the Academy could put you in jail for saying that.

RegDwigнt

The Academy couldn't even tell la Bastille from a hole in the ground.

Neither can Google Maps, for that matter.

Also, I'm probably the first non-member of the Academy to use le weekend.

@tchrist wait, that's where Disney got their titles' music from? OMG mind blown.

That's what never watching Pinocchio gets you.

And so that's how a Nokia user feels who's never heard of Tárrega.

Gigili

3:13 PM

I'm not a Nokia user but never heard of Tárrega.

Robusto

3:32 PM

You might be a closet Nokia user. How would we know?

RegDwigнt

I think they reveal it in the last season of Homeland.

Robusto

I hate that show, so how would I ever find out?

Also, it's bullshit that Damian Lewis would be a terrorist traitor. He played Captain Winters in Band of Brothers. He would never betray his country like that.