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12:16 AM
real trolls are attacking the place yet you are busy bashing me
 
Great, in addition to Chinese spam we now have another wave of non-sensical non-questions and non-answers. travel.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=score%3a..0
 
@NeanDerThal I got 3 bounties posted.
 
user61230
Hit questions like these with spam flags. That's the fastest way to take care of it.
 
user61230
(To anyone who's listening.)
 
WTF???
 
12:22 AM
@Emrakul But... I only have 20-something flags and there will be maybe 30 actual spam posts (that's what Travel got yesterday).
 
WTF? There is a team bombing the site?
 
So I just downvote the questions. Had to stop downvoting the answers because it would drop me below 125.
 
This is a coordinated attack!
 
@bluefeet Since no mods appear to be around, can you take a look at these users trashing the site with nonsensical Q&A? All newest questions are theirs: travel.stackexchange.com/questions
 
user61230
@NormalHuman We're on it in the mod chatroom.
 
12:28 AM
Good to hear.
 
@MarkMayo @JoErNanO @NeanDerThal we're under attack here! Mod powers needed
 
They aren't mods here...
 
I have never seen anything like it. What can their game be? It's an awesome coordination
Apparently I'm the only regular online at the moment. Who are you guys?
 
I'm a Taverner.
 
user61230
I'm a mod on another site.
 
12:33 AM
WTF is going on!
 
Do you guys have mod powers here?
 
Mark shouldn't have resigned. :/
 
I have run out of flags
 
@JoErNanO keep the existing flag ;)
Lol
 
Can you guys get these clowns under control?
 
12:34 AM
Not me, no powers here, mod on another site
I'll hop into teacher's lounge
 
And you thought I was a troll
 
I mean @Emrakul and @NormalHuman
 
look what they sky has sent you
 
I remember this happening before on this site, on a smaller scale. We even talked about it in chat, I think.
 
I have used all the 30 flags for two days
 
12:35 AM
lol, teacher's lounge is all over it
 
Jul 8 at 20:52, by Mark Mayo
what is with all the **** answers the last couple of days? Surely it's not worth their while to make 'semi-fake accounts' just to spam in like 3 weeks or so...
 
heh
 
Sure, give us 500 flags per day. :(
 
@MarkMayo turning in to a read-only?
 
stop posts
we'll see
 
12:38 AM
Yeah, make it read-only for 8 hours until these clowns bed down.
I'm guessing they are on the pacrim
 
Current conjecture: they are in a conspiracy with Chinese spammers, trying to exhaust our flags.
 
heh
 
@NormalHuman WHOA!
 
user61230
It's not implausible that someone figured out there's a finite amount of flagging currently active users can do at a time.
 
Now I understand
So everybody burns their flags and then they can post without getting flagged
 
12:40 AM
When flags are limited, it's better to focus on questions, I guess: several birds with one stone.
 
Why is 15 per day anyway?
 
Although the answers won't feed spamram then.
 
why not unlimited?
 
Basically they get 24 hours of free spam, have I got it right?
 
@Ulkoma It grows with rep and past helpful flags. I have 26.
The maximum is 100.
 
12:42 AM
I have 100 ;)
 
I have 20 something
 
@GayotFow How do I make a reservation with the fat duck please
I keep looking for the coins
but nothing happened
I couldn't solve the puzzle
 
Can you read the java behind it?
 
I haven't tried
 
Do you see the reservation applet in the code behind?
AH! I can get rep over at puzzles.stackexchange.com LOL
 
12:46 AM
Really really hoping no new users start on our site today...
 
Wednesday is peak
 
Flag them all, the God will know his own.
 
They really played this one well
 
apparently I've 32 flags... the number seems random. I'll also go and flag some
 
12:48 AM
@drat You get more flags when you get more helpful flags, I think.
 
if anyone wants review/close vote points, now is the time to do it ;)
 
@MarkMayo you got my tweet???
 
my close queue is empty though
 
I've already seen a couple of these cruddy questions appear in there as people are close voting them, so just refresh occasionally
 
> You start with 10 flags per day, you can end up with as many as 100 per day. You get an extra flag per day for every 2000 reputation points or 10 net helpful flags
 
12:50 AM
okay, thanks
 
Can anybody tell me what the chinese is about?
 
@GayotFow Selling fake diplomas
Hence the university names in their posts.
 
@NormalHuman thanks!
 
> yesterday's deluge of fake-diploma spam (about 30 posts) suggests that adding another moderator could be useful. -- meta.travel.stackexchange.com/a/3396
I am now pretty sure about that.
 
@NormalHuman How about three?
 
12:54 AM
Even better.
 
@NormalHuman in which time zone is the mod gap?
GMT 0100 right?
So need a moderator on the PACRIM
 
The Spamland zone, UTC 1-9 or so.
 
@NormalHuman yes, agreed
Possibly one in LA might work
@Ulkoma I went around counter clockwise and collected the coins
@Ulkoma but it's easier to inspect the code behind
@MarkMayo there's a mod in south asia, right? the rest are on the continent, right?
 
This is ridiculous
so much for a famous restaurant
more like a secret BDSM club
 
@Ulkoma You don't need to solve the puzzle in order to make a reservation
Are you in the UK? near Bucks?
 
1:00 AM
I live in London
I used to date someone from Slough and wanted to take her there once
 
Which part?
 
NorthWest
They had dress code BS
 
So you're good to go! For me it's 50 miles
 
so changed my mind
 
I'm in Essex
Inside the orbital
 
1:02 AM
Are they open now-days?
 
Yes
It's very destinational however
@MarkMayo please answer me
 
good night guys
 
@Ulkoma nice chat, let's continue some time
 
@GayotFow I will hang inhere more often
better than you hunting my questions
:p
good night
 
:)
@NormalHuman I can despam from about 11PM - 2AM London time on a temporary basis
if that's of any use
 
1:10 AM
Well, I'll probably vote for you if you run.
Starting the campaign early...
 
But during those hours... I can't do it all day, + temporary
@NormalHuman you can ping me if you have an idea.........
 
1:27 AM
@GayotFow I'm not at your beck and call man, I was away from my computer :)
There's Tim Post in ... Manila I think, and I've met jmac in Japan
 
@MarkMayo Manilla is a good time zone for this attacking business
 
21 bounties!
ok while this spam has paused, I'm doing a stats update
 
I have 3 running
what is a stats update?
 
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A: Trending our answer rate to 100% and our answer rank to 1st

Mark MayoUpdate answer below with the following: date of update (Date) # questions with no upvoted or accepted answers (NoVotes) # questions with no answers (NoAnswers) % answer rate on the network (%Answered) rank for answer rate on the network (Rank) Date..............................NoVotes......No...

that's a stats update ;)
 
@NormalHuman get this one
0
Q: Travelling in Australia from Bangladesh

PaulLesieurI want to travel for 1 month to Australia from Bangladesh. But I don't know what documents are needed for passport. I have not national I'd card. Can I process a passport without national I'd card???

 
1:35 AM
Someone please protect the flying-in-pajamas question. ...
 
done
at least I can do that
 
Thanks. The two most recent answers there may be a part of the wave.
 
@NormalHuman I recognize their screen names
 
yeah, if in doubt, look at their other answers
 
This guy is in it also PaulLesieur
 
1:37 AM
you're basing that on one poorly worded question?
We need to be careful we don't flag genuine users
 
@MarkMayo no, I remember him
He was in the crowd
 
ok cool
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A: Can a foreigner get a visa for China in Taiwan?

simcaChina Travel Service (HK) Ltd has visa issuing offices at the airport in Hong Kong and are the fast, convenient way to get a visa to the China mainland. It is a booth named China travel to the left as you come out of the baggage claim area. It is in the A area as there is also one in the B area b...

ah a promotion for our old buddies China Travel
PURGE!!!!!!
maybe it's them doing all the spam
@mindcorrosive @AnkurBanerjee @roflcoptrexception if you guys are around....
6, 6 and 14 hours ago. damn
 
@MarkMayo If not banned, he will be back with another
 
weirdly:
0
A: How long does it take for a SIM card to activate (Europe)?

Pawan KarkiIf your SIM doesn't automatically activate follow these steps: Insert your SIM into your phone and switch it on 3 will text you to let you know they have started activating your SIM. Make sure you keep your phone switched on while they connect you to the Three network. This should only take abou...

this one is almost useful
someone voted to close my Iraninan question as 'unclear'. Weird.
 
That question needs to be deleted imho. It has too many answers
@MarkMayo where is it?
 
1:45 AM
where is what? the Iraninan one?
21
Q: What facility was our bus blocked from observing in northern Iran?

Mark MayoRecently on a bus trip from Rasht, Iran, to Tehran, Iran, the driver's assistant came down the bus aisle, ordering all the curtains closed on one side, and for a few minutes we were actually forbidden from looking out the windows on that side! I can only assume he didn't want a hassle with milit...

 
Usually, when a spammer writes something 'almost useful', I put a sentence or two into Google to see what they are copying from.
 
@MarkMayo I see the close vote. There's a hurdle on this so the person is an established user.
@NormalHuman I do that too, but for visa questions.
To see how many times they have asked it
 
shrug. I really wish people would explain their close vote reasons when it's not obvious.
 
The reason was 'unclear'
they were taking the piss
 
yes, but what was 'unclear'....
 
1:49 AM
@MarkMayo I just read it again. It's a fine question
 
yeah. ah well. It's doing pretty well and has what is likely a valid answer too.
 
I think it's a sacred site, nothing about military or weapons
 
16 min since last spam...
 
I can do despaming between 11PM and about 2AM London time, but temporarily
 
Now I have time to edit some posts to recover the lost points; dropped to 124 with the downvotes.
 
1:54 AM
@NormalHuman 124 what?
 
20 min now.
 
@GayotFow 124 rep. Downvotes require 125, and each downvoted answer costs 1.
 
ouch
 
AH! very good.
 
user61230
Looks like the spam should be taken care of for now.
 
1:56 AM
Storm passed.
Going back to work
 
As @Emrakul pointed out, spam should be handled. Our crack team of devs with funny hats has tackled the situation and found a probable solution which is deploying now.
 
I'll drop by every 30 mins or so
 
oh I just realised who @NormalHuman used to be ;)
 
I destroyed several dozen accounts today, and may have had some false positives (they seemed to act like a ring, so I took looks at low-rep accounts with an answer). If someone comes complaining that they were deleted and blocked, feel free to either find me and poke me, or just apologize on my behalf.
6
 
sounds valid
 
1:58 AM
As I said a few minutes ago, "the God will know His own"
This remark by an SE dev looks relevant:
> I wonder how many Windows XP users realize their computer is part of a botnet. I’m guessing the count is somewhere around 0. -- Nick Craver at 6:57 PM - 1 Sep 2015 via Twitter
 
@NormalHuman Yes, that would be the case. We all learned something new today.
 
2:14 AM
1 in 5 unanswered questions currently have bounties :)
 
2:30 AM
@jmac one of them is back
0
A: UK visitor entry clearance application refused: impact on future travel

kyahuathey keep your passport for 1 month before making a decision, can't believe is such a long time. You can get a much more focused answer to your question if you include the 'legal' reasons for your refusal.

 
@MarkMayo I'll look in to it
 
and RAZZUL has just answered 2 in the last min
although he might be legit
nope, he's copying posts from flyertalk
 
...
Okay, will take a look at it
Link to Razzul?
 
@MarkMayo apparently those were humans. Possibly associated with said spam ring, but not automated. They were removed manually. Poke me if you find more.
 
3:10 AM
@jmac @MarkMayo More spam
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Q: Q/weixin/987739625NEU.Northeastern,diploma,certificate, (Northeastern University)

eawfc452Q/weixin/987739625NEU.Northeastern,diploma,certificate, (Northeastern University) Q/weixin/987739625NEU.Northeastern,diploma,certificate, (Northeastern University) Q/weixin/987739625NEU.Northeastern,diploma,certificate, (Northeastern University) Q/weixin/987739625NEU.Northeastern,diploma,certi...

 
@Karlson Taking care of it now
 
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Q: Certificate,diploma(Q/weixin/987739625)buy UIUC ,university,transcript,

eawfc452Certificate,diploma(Q/weixin/987739625)buy UIUC ,university,transcript, Certificate,diploma(Q/weixin/987739625)buy UIUC ,university,transcript, Certificate,diploma(Q/weixin/987739625)buy UIUC ,university,transcript, Certificate,diploma(Q/weixin/987739625)buy UIUC ,university,transcript, Certifica...

Persistent buggers
 
Nice of them to translate it for us.
Incorrect capitalization of "jmac", where do I submit a bug report?
:)
 
I have been immortalized on Stack Overflow.
One day I will tell my children, "When I was but a lad, I was in an error message on Stack Overflow."
2
 
My screenshot is from Travel.
I don't get this message on SO.
I think you're one of those who substitute Stack Overflow for Stack Exchange just because people are far more likely to recognize the former name. Tsk, tsk.
 
3:22 AM
I think I'm one of those people who just forgets what the heck he's doing half the time.
 
@jmac And the other half?
 
@Karlson The other half of the time I know I'm doing the wrong thing.
4
 
@jmac You're better half the time then I am.
 
@Karlson Sorry, math is one of those places where I'm sure thar be dragons (and are in the wrong half the time part)
 
@Karlson I think you're less than half as good as jmac less than half the time.
 
3:43 AM
> Dear Spammers, It’s bedtime here, so how about we call it a night? Same time, same place tomorrow? @#$^ off, Nick -- Nick Craver at 7:53 PM - 1 Sep 2015 via Twitter
Unfortunately, they didn't follow Nick's advice: more spam travel.stackexchange.com/q/54188
 
@NormalHuman That's my last flag on Travel
 
4:02 AM
@jmac If you're still around: spam continues at a slower rate, travel.stackexchange.com/q/54190
 
Yep, it's back, both forms :/
 
destroyed
 
How about you appoint Mark a pro-tem, since he was a mod here?
 
Because they don't give me access to that button
 
There is apparently a second team
 
4:06 AM
Maybe it's the same one, after eating lunch or taking a nap.
> In the past 2 hours, 60,039 of the 66,075 attempted posts to Stack Exchange came from IE 6. Yay for Windows XP botnets! -- Nick Craver at 7:15 PM - 1 Sep 2015 via Twitter
For scale: Travel.SE has 13,356 questions in total.
 
Is it 60k of posts to TSE?
 
He didn't specify; probably many tried to post elsewhere and were blocked.
 
60k of questions? bloody hell
 
4:24 AM
Hello again, RAZZUL travel.stackexchange.com/a/54191 copy-paste of irrelevant text from germany-visa.org/visa-faq
I sense this answer isn't going to get the bounty.
Their second answer is copied from tripadvisor.com/…
 
4:47 AM
@NormalHuman Jesus! He copied the material word for word!
That's some kind of cheek
 
Well... you wanted to have fewer unanswered questions, so....
 
@NormalHuman did you change your name, I never saw you here
I am going to put an answer for that one
 
@GayotFow We even spoke here before...
Jul 8 at 22:43, by Gayot Fow
@1999 Yeah, my take is that they are sincere. It does not mean high quality though. I try not to hurt their feelings
 
did you have a different name?
 
Yes, this "1999" you're addressing in the quoted message.
 
4:53 AM
I see, probably the medication that I don't recall it :(
 
5:07 AM
ok, i plugged an answer in. i'll sleep for an hour now
 
5:50 AM
@NormalHuman @jmac @GayotFow @MarkMayo Good job handling all this. I was in bed. :)
@NeanDerThal I'm proud of you!
 
6:07 AM
@NormalHuman wow, it's still going while I've been away
@JoErNanO we just hit buttons :)
 
6:35 AM
@MarkMayo Yeah. But you hit the right buttons. That's the difference between success and failure. :D
So you're in favour of keeping the current flag?
Weird I assumed that all kiwis would've been thrilled to remove all traces of the Union Jack from their flag. Or at least that's what our media makes us believe.
@JonathanReez Join the bounty competition. Just add your answer to the meta post.
We can't let the Mayo win.
We just can't.
:)
 
6:52 AM
53% still want the old flag
in the latest poll
also this whole endeavour is costing us like $26 mill
and I suspect it'll win
of the 4 finalists, my 'favourite' from the top 40 made it into the final 4
(has fern with red and blue bg)
and the spam begins again, @Jmac
0
Q: Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Deakin, Monash, Queensland University CertifiCate transcripts

xtui26Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Deakin, Monash, Queensland University CertifiCate transcripts Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Deakin, Monash, Queensland University CertifiCate transcripts Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Deakin, Monash, Queensland University CertifiCate transcripts Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide...

 
Handled
ping me if you find more @MarkMayo
 
cheers
 
7:15 AM
@jmac
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Q: Provide Griffith University Q/Wechat:1901184762 CertifiCate/transcripts Diploma

rew5332Provide Griffith University Q/Wechat:1901184762 CertifiCate/transcripts Diploma Provide Griffith University Q/Wechat:1901184762 CertifiCate/transcripts Diploma Provide Griffith University Q/Wechat:1901184762 CertifiCate/transcripts Diploma

-3
Q: Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Curtin University of Technology Diploma CertifiCate/transcripts

rew5332Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Curtin University of Technology Diploma CertifiCate/transcripts Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Curtin University of Technology Diploma CertifiCate/transcripts Q/Wechat:1901184762 Provide Curtin University of Technology Diploma CertifiCate/transcripts Q/Wechat:190118476...

 
handled
 
cheers
 
 
1 hour later…
8:28 AM
Let's look at the positive side, my helpful flags are mush more now!
 
9:13 AM
@JoErNanO done!
 
9:26 AM
You don't sleep, do you?
 
9:38 AM
@Ulkoma Who?
@JonathanReez Great stuff!
 
Looks like we were under a massive spam attack a few hours ago
 
9:54 AM
@JoErNanO you :D
 
@JoErNanO I say we should unite our bounties for a greater chance of winning!
 
10:50 AM
@JonathanReez Let's do that. Rebellion against the Mayo!
@Ulkoma Why? I'm a big sleeper.
:)
 
@AnkurBanerjee Yep, quite a bit. Here's a stray one: travel.stackexchange.com/a/54214
(I'm long out of flags)
Gone quickly.
 
Destroyed it
jmac's off, but you can ping me if the spam comes back in force
 
Cool. The sun never sets on Community Team.
 
Indeed
:P
 
@NormalHuman Thank you so much for handling this while we were away! Was it specifically on our China questions?
 
11:00 AM
@AnkurBanerjee That stray one probably isn't connected to the rest; it's not representative anyway. There were two kinds of posts: (1) in Chinese, selling fake diplomas of universities in English-speaking countries; (2) marginally on-topic but inane questions and answers coming at a rapid rate. The latter turned out to be also a part of a botnet attack.
2
I suppose there should be some way to look up recently deleted posts in mod tools.
 
That accounts just for questions
 
That seems like such a huge volume!
 
11:28 AM
oh now @AnkurBanerjee shows up ;)
@GayotFow a new one for you:
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Q: French Schengen visa refused in India - what to do?

rexI am an Indian national working in Kuwait with residency here . I wanted to take my family on a euro trip this may . The family included my wife and daughter (who live with me) and my parents-in-law who live in India. We made an itinerary with 3 countries , first port of entry France , however m...

quite well constructed too!
 
@MarkMayo That's my superpower
 
11:47 AM
smooth!
 
@MarkMayo How are you anyway? :)
@hippietrail Did you get my book yet? :) And yeah, Indian passport holders have minimal restrictions getting into Bhutan with no day-spend limits.
 
12:26 PM
@MarkMayo I have dup'd it
@MarkMayo please use this one for his particular refusal reason...
16
Q: Schengen Visa Refusal: Justification for the purpose and conditions of the intended stay was not reliable

Gayot FowSchengen refusal formulae can be difficult to understand sometimes. Sometimes an applicant receives a refusal with: Justification for the purpose and conditions of the intended stay was not reliable. often accompanied by: Your intention to leave the territory of the Member States...

@JoErNanO You missed quite a party last night
They made a few fatal mistakes, but otherwise their plan was pretty well thought out
 
@AnkurBanerjee cold :) I'm in Christchurch for a week before I start my new contract in Sydney next week
missing travel though!
all the job hunting and apartment and stuff like that...ugh
and your photo of the monastery, btw, I've been showing people while ranting about how we have to pay the $200 a day to get there - amazing photo! ;)
 
1:24 PM
$250 a day I think it is now! So a lot of rich people mostly among foreigners in Bhutan
 
@NormalHuman That's not half bad!
 
1:53 PM
@GayotFow I am the party!
 
@JoErNanO No you didn't. This was apparently two teams on the pacrim
 
I read everything this morning. It looked well orchestrated. But the mods here are a force to be reckoned with. And the SmokeDetector is simply awesome.
@GayotFow You think we need an extra mod?
 
2:58 PM
@JoErNanO I wrote that I could help monitor between about 11PM to about 2AM on a temporary basis. I don't think another mod would help without considering where the time zone gaps are.
 
@GayotFow All our mods are within UTC and UTC+3
 
@JoErNanO hence my point :)
 
@JoErNanO Mark, can we compete as a double team? :)
 
3:59 PM
@JoErNanO You there good buddy? We need coverage in UTC+8 and UTC+9. No point in more EEA or North American time zones
 
4:16 PM
@MarkMayo this one has had stunningly poor performance...
183
Q: How to intentionally get denied entry to the US, without getting into trouble?

user11743I have a multiple entry visitors visa for five years. I went to USA last year and lived there for one year with my husband (6 months entry and other 6 months of extension). I left USA legally. Now my family wants me to go back and live with my stupid in-laws and husband in USA. I don't want to g...

Sorry about that, I wish there was a better outcome for you
 
@GayotFow I'm here on an off. I do think you are right: a pacrim mod would improve coverage.
It sucks nevertheless because I was thinking of applying for the position. :)
 
@JoErNanO Good. It means we're on the same page.
 
@GayotFow 183 upvotes on a question 70+ on answers how's that poor performance
 
@JoErNanO Well lord knows I would NEVER apply for it. Ever. Help out temporarily maybe, but no way wear the hat
 
@MarkMayo @JonathanReez and I will be fusing our bounties very much like Dragonball Z.
Same dance and all.
:D
@GayotFow You'd look got in a hat. It'd cover the bald spot. :P
 
4:23 PM
@Karlson Please read my 'aide memore' comments to see the bounty performance. It's actually piss poor :)
@JoErNanO What bald spot?
 
@GayotFow I don't know man I'm making stuff up. As usual.
 
@JoErNanO I haven't had a bald spot since my early 20's :)
@JoErNanO I forgot, do you speak Italian?
 
I should. :)
See? A hat would be perfect for you!
:D
 
Your name echos a paisano heritage
But you don't speak it right?
 
I do speak it.
 
4:27 PM
Perfect.
 
What do you need? Some romantic sentence to woo a girl? A menacing phrase for that nasty person who's been stealing your lunch?
:D
 
I was in a project with a friend to read Dante in the original Florentine dialect
And I saw some old emails
 
Ach. That's no easy job.
 
and said Hey, I bet old Joe knows this stuff :)
 
We can try.
I did learn some 20 verses of the first Canto of the Inferno as a punishment in middle school.
In Italian though.
@GayotFow @NeanDerThal @JonathanReez What's your opinion on: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/54213/…
@Karlson You too.
 
4:41 PM
The guy is cheap, thats one opinion...
 
@JoErNanO I'd say any question that interestes many travelers is acceptable. I've personally noticed the rental sheets trick as well many times
once I've even seen a fee to use the kitchen
no fees for using the toilet yet
 
5 stars hotels do much more hidden fees, and no one complains.. a cheap hostel hides $2 then people argue.. exactly how humans buy vegetable from a big chain and pay that big amount, but they argue with a poor guy selling the same on the street with already a cheaper price..
 
Can we really answer Why do hostels require you to 'rent' bedding? ?
 
I think I've summarized it pretty well. It's essentially a cheap trick to get more money out of you
http://travel.stackexchange.com/search?tab=votes&q=title%3awhy

we have plenty of 'why' questions without an exact answer
 
he is probably expecting that exact answer...
to make him feel more of a victim..
he got one..
 
4:48 PM
@NeanDerThal I'm personally pissed off as well at hidden charges, it's not about being cheap. If you want me to pay you $50 don't advertise your services as $40 and slap me with a $10 'service fee'
airlines are the worst at this. "FLY TO SINGAPORE FROM $199". Well, show me the day when it's "$199" and I'll buy
don't just put a link to your website
 
this is the norm these days...
 
@GayotFow It's as good as good be expected.
 
why surprised?
hidden fees. cookie based fees are the worst EVER...
yesterday, a hotel priced at 5616, in another incognito tab it shows 4212.. this is worse than hidden fees for me..
 
@NeanDerThal not surprised, just annoyed
 
so, since the norm is hidden fees, he should be glad it is only @2.. not some shitty 1000 Dirhams or so in dubai.. which happened to me in 5 days stay some years ago..
 
4:52 PM
@JoErNanO to summarize I'll let that question stay. It's well written and affects millions of travelers
 
@JoErNanO It's ok by me
 
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