Coding Projects and Duga Heaven :)

@SimonAndréForsberg sorry, i meant to say it would be nice to see cardshift compile to a directory like "jars" rather than "libs", which is misleading because the files are executable

Phrancis

2:15 AM

Hey @MotokoKusanagi

Motoko Kusanagi

3:06 AM

@Phrancis hi

skiwi

8:37 AM

hey

skiwi

10:32 AM

github.com/Zomis/Duga/issues/46

@SimonAndréForsberg ^^ Is there an issue way I can find how you solved this and/or why this issue has been closed?

Simon André Forsberg

@MotokoKusanagi aha. I normally run gradlew dist though, which puts it in a "distribution" folder IIRC.

skiwi

I also just realized that we could let @Duga do some completely awesome things...

We can circumvent wahtever limit the chat imposes by sending images ;-)

Simon André Forsberg

She already does completely awesome things.

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Why on earth would we want to do that?

skiwi

I'm seeding you talking about things as listing issues etc. and I'm thinking that's not easy to do easily, but it would possibly fit in an image

@SimonAndréForsberg /s/awesome/Groovy/

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi I solved it by putting things in the database instead. And with some recent changes, she doesn't really need that information at all (she doesn't ping anyone when a build fails anymore)

@skiwi I prefer things to be clickable and copy-pastable.

And text should be text, not an image.

skiwi

10:40 AM

@SimonAndréForsberg I mostly agree on that, but it's just an option we can take if text doesn't work

Before today I totally didn't realize that a bot could respond with an image instead of text

@SimonAndréForsberg Okay, makes sense, I just couldn't find a reference easily

Simon André Forsberg

just need a way of uploading the image, I think a request to another site would be needed then. But anyway, I don't see any reason for why @Duga should upload an image at the moment.

skiwi

A request to the chat would probably work here, the one the "upload..." button uses

Simon André Forsberg

chat.stackexchange.com/upload/image POST

skiwi

btw... github.com/Zomis/Duga/issues/11#issuecomment-113754996

I made the issue only as reference, not as a real "issue"

I wasn't sure at that time of the Github API was going to support that soon

@SimonAndréForsberg Looks easy enough then, generating the image might be more challenging, but well, not-our-issue-now

Simon André Forsberg

although the request payload for uploading an image might be a bit difficult to reproduce...

@skiwi either way, I found no reason to keep it open. Wasn't possible for either of us to fix anyway.

skiwi

10:48 AM

It could create really nice charts when requesting SE site info ;-)

Simon André Forsberg

There's SEDE for that

Marc-Andre

12:16 PM

Hey everyone!

Stack Exchange

12:36 PM

libGDX 1.6.4 released http://ift.tt/1LVYW8T

Tweeted by libgdx on July 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM

bazola

12:54 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg I've been thinking of a more OOP approach, but it feels like the cleanest way is to pass in an array of buttons which are created in the GameScreen class

robovm.com/…

Duga

2:00 PM

[libgdx/libgdx] badlogic created tag 1.6.4

Marc-Andre

@Duga The user link is wrong it should be github.com/badlogic

skiwi

@Marc-Andre I think I have some kind of organization support... but not quite sure

Marc-Andre

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I think that the creation of the user link for a tag is wrong. See chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/22654021#22654021 this one is a good one.

Lokkij

Have you guys seen the MtG cards generated by a neural network? It's amazing.

in Game Development, 9 mins ago, by Lokkij

MtG cards generated by a neural network can be pretty hilarious. I'm really looking forward to more Zampire cards and more cards with "defline" and "when a creature dies, you may have more spells" :P

The ones later in the article are actually pretty good :D

skiwi

@Marc-Andre Hmmm, that one I don't know

@Lokkij Going to look into that!

@Lokkij Are the images also neural generated?

Lokkij

2:08 PM

I don't think so

skiwi

Aww :p

What about the creature names?

I so hate that those sites consist of multiple pages though

Lokkij

Yeah the names are generated

> gives all creatures +2/+2 and the feel

skiwi

Did the AI add the ...And stay dead!?

Lokkij

I don't know.. it'd be amazing if it did!

Phrancis

2:24 PM

Monking

skiwi

hey @Phrancis

Tromple!!!

Marc-Andre

Hey @Phrancis!

Phrancis

Been playing a bit of the TCG from The Witcher 3, called Gwent - It's pretty fun! (but way different from most TCGs)

Phrancis

2:40 PM

(whoops - all in German. Oh well)

Marc-Andre

You;re playing in German ?

Phrancis

No, the screenshot is though

(it's on PS4, can't take screenshots easily)

I was going to post some of the mechanics as future feature requests for Cardshifter, but the gameplay is so radically different than what we have, I'm not sure it would be very feasible

Or... would it...

Hmm.

bazola

how is it so different?

Phrancis

2:55 PM

Well, the GUI (obviously) is different because it has multiple rows per each player

However, that behavior could be emulated (albeit not visually) using our creature types

Simon André Forsberg

@bazola make it work, then we can see how to improve it

Phrancis

The main gameplay thing that we don't support, is you see how each row has a number to the left, and those 3 numbers add up to a total for each player?

Simon André Forsberg

@Marc-Andre hmm... damn right. I'll look into that.

Phrancis

In this game there is no Attack/Health mechanisms, neither is there player health or mana

Simon André Forsberg

@Lokkij that's quite interesting...

Phrancis

2:58 PM

Also, the number of cards is fixed, as in, you draw 10 cards at the beginning, then you have to mulligan 2 cards, and then, you don't draw any more unless you play a card that has an effect to draw X cards

Duga

@Simon work on the multiplayer server for UTTT and Battleship, and have a bot fight with maaartinus. And get rid of that reload spam when things are saved

Simon André Forsberg

@Phrancis add an issue for it anyway, maybe sometime, some day it could be supported.

Phrancis

OK

Duga

[Zomis/Duga] Zomis added label bug to issue #94: Wrong 'username' on created tags.

[Zomis/Duga] Zomis added label github-api to issue #94: Wrong 'username' on created tags.

[Zomis/Duga] Zomis opened issue #94: Wrong 'username' on created tags.

> See chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/22690248#22690248

skiwi

Best method call ever...

Phrancis

3:07 PM

@Simon Right now if I wanted to make an effect like onSomeTrigger { change ATTACK by double on { ... } } is there any supported way?

skiwi

mangled = valhalla.specializer.Specializer.specialize(name.replace('.', '/'), new ByteArrayInputStream(input), specs, URLClassLoader.this);

That specializer.Specializer.specialize made me lol

Simon André Forsberg

@Phrancis edit the DSL support code to add that. But it depends greatly on what the onSomeTrigger is

or oh, you meant the change ATTACK by double...

not yet, no.

Phrancis

ok

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi I'd assume that valhalla.specializer.Specializer is the fully qualified class name.

Marc-Andre

can't you do : change ATTACK by current_attack * 2 or something similar ?

Simon André Forsberg

3:15 PM

not at the moment, no

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Yeah

@Marc-Andre Is it an idea to add a this variable? Or is that too difficult?

Marc-Andre

@skiwi I have no idea you should ask @SimonAndréForsberg ;)

skiwi

@Marc-Andre Right ^^

bazola

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi How about you play around with Groovy DSL a bit more?

@bazola I sense an incoming CR question

bazola

3:18 PM

yeah

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg How about that's a good idea?

Just almost caught up on my emails

bazola

but unfortunately i have to create ALL of the buttons in the game screen.. I'm sure you will have something to say if you want to answer :) the issue was that one of the buttons needs additional functionality, so the GameScreen needs to know when that button is closed. i probably should have subclassed but this is not too bad i guess

Phrancis

@bazola That looks really good

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Simon André Forsberg

that it does ^^

bazola

thanks :)

i did find a slightly cleaner way so it won't be too horrible to look at simon

Simon André Forsberg

3:35 PM

we'll see about that ;)

skiwi

3:53 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg How's the @Duga memory issues?

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi better.

skiwi

Nice

Oops, I almost fell literally asleep

skiwi

4:07 PM

Looking through my emails @Simon, are you no longer referring Github issues in your commits? Any specific reason for it?

Simon André Forsberg

I do sometimes

skiwi

I found that all issues that have been closed recently are not tracable to the actual code

bazola

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Q: Take These Buttons Back

I created a side bar of buttons for my game, the idea being that if you click on the "main" button of the group, the rest of the buttons in the group would pop out from the side of the screen. Later, I wanted to make it so that if you open one of the side menus the other ones would close. I tho...

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi take a look at the date of the issues being closed and you'll probably be able to pinpoint a series of commits around that date that addresses it

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg True, but I'm lazy and used to direct links by now :P

I'm probably getting spoiled by commercial tools

Simon André Forsberg

4:19 PM

or maybe you're just spoiled...

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Marc-Andre

4:39 PM

I have internet now at home, I can breath again :P

bazola

these AI generated MTG cards seem pretty crappy

Lokkij

They get better later on in the article

But they're definitely not perfect, no :P

Duga

5:07 PM

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Phrancis opened issue #321: Mechanics ideas from Gwent TCG

> is the TCG that is part of The Witcher 3 game. Some of the Mechanics are quite unusual, as far as TCGs are concerned. I'll draw the main lines here, and we can discuss the details in comments.

[General info](http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Gwent) & [Cards](http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Gwent_Cards)

---

**Cards**

- There are 4 factions each with reserved cards, as well as a pool of common cards ( ref. issue #175 )

- There are 3 creatures classes or types: Close, Ranged, Siege. Tho

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Phrancis added label moddability to issue #321: Mechanics ideas from Gwent TCG

Phrancis

@Duga That was a good bit of typing!

bazola

5:23 PM

profiling is helping me today:

Simon André Forsberg

nice typing, @Phrancis

bazola

at first i was like, well profiling is not showing me anything.. then i started clicking on some things and the CPU usage shot up to 100%

Phrancis

@SimonAndréForsberg Merci :)

skiwi

Interesting gameplay...

But a TCG without attacking/defending, isn't it a bit weird to play?

bazola

5:41 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg do you happen to know why the CPU tab of Java Monitor is blank?

Simon André Forsberg

no clue

Phrancis

6:02 PM

@skiwi It sounds unusual, but it's actually quite fun

skiwi

@Phrancis But it's only available inside The Witcher 3?

Phrancis

Sometimes, for example, you have to sacrifice a round you're unlikely to win, to conserve your cards for the next round, and there are some interesting bait-and-switch tactics

skiwi

It's not completely clear how you win the game to me though

Phrancis

Best 2 out of 3 rounds

I'd suggest perhaps to check out a video on YouTube, it might make more sense then

skiwi

But you don't redraw the cards in the new rounds?

Phrancis

6:05 PM

@skiwi They have also released a real, actual TCG with the same mechanics

skiwi

It seems like my browser gets rendering issues past using 2,754GB RAM...

Phrancis

@skiwi No. There is one faction that has the benefit to draw 1 card when a new round starts, but other than that, you're stuck with your starting hand + whatever cards you're able to draw from card effects

skiwi

It's... interesting, a TCG without actually fighting

(Looks like I'll need to reboot my browser)

Phrancis

Yeah, it's less of a "fight" and more of a "battle"

skiwi

Even closing my browser crashes

Phrancis

6:11 PM

An example of the "battle" type mechanic are the weather cards, which are very strategic, because they affect troops on both sides. So if your opponent has mostly Close cards, and you have mostly Ranged or Siege, if you have a Snow weather card it gives you a huge advantage for that round

Duga

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Phrancis commented on issue #177: More mods

> Related #321

skiwi

@Phrancis Hmm... ok

It's interesting, but doesn't really fit my personal definition of a TCG

(How I would expect one to work)

Phrancis

^^ That's exactly the point, it's "outside the box" and that's what makes it fresh/interesting :)

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It mixes elements of RTSG along with TCG

skiwi

Well, if you want outside the bos stuff, then make a neural network that can design TCGs :D

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Q: GitHub for Windows does not see changes in repository

I have created a repository using GitHub for Windows (GfW) and added 3 commits and synced using aforementioned. Commits were visible on GitHub webpage and in my app. Then my brother forked my project to start collaborating with me. He successfully cloned it using GfW. Then i made changes on my ...

git github

So... There's a GitHub client that uses "Sync" as keyword and not "Pull"/"Push"? That's asking for trouble

bazola

6:45 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg turns out it was a couple things. There was a little "resume cpu profiling" pause/play button that i had to click. but in addition, i had to right click on the background, open CPU Profiling Preferences, and add classes to the list of what was being profiled

it still doesn't really work right though

Duga

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Phrancis opened issue #322: "draw n cards" effect

> I think this is an essential mechanic of almost every TCG I've ever played. I searched for an issue for this but could not find one specifically for this. I think this should be a pretty high priority.

Example:

afterPlay {
draw n cards [from drawPile | discardPile] { [creatureType 'foo']; ownedBy 'you' | 'opponent' | etc. }
}

This might be a bit much at first, we could probably settle for a simpler implementation until we implement specific "piles" of cards. Somethin

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Phrancis added label groovy-effect to issue #322: "draw n cards" effect

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Phrancis added label moddability to issue #322: "draw n cards" effect

Phrancis

@Phrancis TODO: Update README.md in main repo

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Duga

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Zomis commented on issue #322: "draw n cards" effect

> The reason why you couldn't find an issue for this is probably because most of it [is already implemented](https://github.com/Cardshifter/Cardshifter/blob/master/cardshifter-core/src/main/resources/com/cardshifter/core/modloader/EffectDelegate.groovy#L123)

A syntax example is: `drawCard 'you', 4`

The rest is very related to #290.

I'm leaving this issue open though, but adjusting it a bit to be about drawing from other zones, and only drawing some specific cards. (like your `creatureTy

Phrancis

7:06 PM

@Phrancis TODO: Update effects modding guide to add drawCard effect

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Phrancis

7:16 PM

OMG. Internet Explorer really doesn't get along with ~~GitHub~~ anything!

bazola

well, back to square one with the profiling. I reduced CPU usage by 50% but i still see massive slowdowns on mobile when i let the game tick at 100ms

in the monitor it shows the memory use barely ever goes over 60mb, and the processor use only goes up about 3-5% when the game is paused vs running at full speed, but of course that is all on the desktop

bazola

7:51 PM

if i had read one more line of documentation i would have realized i needed to do com.bazola.isoworld.*

Phrancis

9:24 PM

Silly me, I had already documented drawCard ...

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skiwi

@Phrancis lol ;)

Phrancis

9:40 PM

// Groovy regex
regex =  '''(?ix)          # enable case-insensitive matches, extended patterns
            (\\d+)         # 1: The disk space we want
            \\s+           # some whitespace
            \\d+%          # a number followed by %
            \\s+           # some more whitespace
            (/nfs/data.*)  # 2: partition name'''

pattern = ~regex
matcher = pattern.matcher(dfOutput)

^^ @Simon @skiwi how to do regex like a pro with Groovy :D

(example from a wiki, I didn't write that) ngdc.noaa.gov/wiki/…

bazola

9:53 PM

the benefits of profiling:

sorry, the first one is the after picture :)

Duga

11:45 PM

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Coding Projects and Duga Heaven :)