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4:58 AM
> * Honor Pre-Depends, Conflicts and Breaks for packages in unpacked and half states. Thanks to Ian Jackson <iwj@ubuntu.com>. Closes: #377860
> * Use badusage() instead of ohshit() for command-line errors.
 
@Braiam context?
@Braiam I wonder if someone reported this.
@StephenKitt ?
 
dpkg changelog
 
@Braiam version?
 
@FaheemMitha 1.17.25 > 1.18.1
 
@Braiam ok
 
5:22 AM
tons of perl modules upgraded
mostly packaging
 
6:12 AM
@Braiam context, please.
Or, putting it differently, what the hell are you talking about?
 
 
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7:30 AM
@casey Another plug for what @StephenKitt was saying about vcsh. That script really addresses this exact scenario well and smooths out quite a number of pitfalls that you will run into sooner or later doing the same thing manually. It takes a little bit to get your head around what it is doing with detached work trees, but the resulting flexibility and ability to fine tune how manage your dotfiles without putting crimps on the way you use your computer is really worth it.
 
 
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9:20 AM
@Gilles I followed your advice today and flagged only (had to look it up as I almost downvoted and wasn't sure I was supposed to). Should I have left a comment for the others (currently the spam is at -5) or is adding comment more harmful to the spam deletion process than the downvotes are?
 
9:35 AM
@Anthon post it in this room then
 
9:48 AM
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@Anthon an example ^
 
@Anthon comments don't matter
@Caleb I'm curious what these pitfalls are, because I don't see them from the description, and I do have experience storing my dot files under VC
I see two difficulties: files that need to be different on different machines, and files that need contain both state and configuration
vcsh doesn't seem to provide a nice interface for different files on different machines. Breaking things down by application is irrelevant. what would be relevant is to tag some files as being site-dependent and check out/symlink different content for these files
As for files with mixed content (state/configuration, or global/local for that matter), I don't see how it helps at all
 
10:09 AM
@Braiam The spam was gone relatively quickly, I had no clue about how many flags where on the post. I just wanted to know if pointing out to the downvoters in a comment just to flag (and not downvote) would be helpful.
 
I thought a spam flag was an automatic downvote.
 
@FaheemMitha it is
@Anthon unless the spam non-obvious (e.g. it's buried in some plagiarized text that's vaguely on-topic), the comment isn't useful
 
 
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11:33 AM
@Gilles Well, maybe they wouldn't know that the optimal thing to do is to flag and downvote. So I think a comment does no harm here.
I think I've downvoted spam before, not realising that wasn't the best thing to do.
Also, you lose a point if you downvote spam directly. But if you flag it as spam, it still gets downvoted, but you don't lose a point.
 
11:52 AM
@FaheemMitha Don't you lose points just for downvoting answers? If the spam is a question, you don't lose points for downvoting it...
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Q: Filter file by line number

mikuGiven a file L with one non-negative integer per line and text file F, what would be a fast way to keep only those lines in F, whose line number appears in file L? Example: $ cat L.txt 1 3 $ cat F.txt Hello World Hallo Welt Hola mundo $ command-in-question -x L.txt F.txt Hello World Hola mund...

 
@StephenKitt Yes, I was referring to spam that was an answer.
 
@terdon what didn't work with your answer?
 
Though from what I understand, you should always just flag spam, not downvote it.
 
@FaheemMitha Ah right! The same applies to offensive material too IIRC.
@FaheemMitha Yes, likewise for offensive questions or answers...
 
@StephenKitt It won't work for files with >10 lines. join complains that the file is unsorted, I couldn't find a way to make it accept numerical sorting. Shame really, that would be the best way to do it. I'm very open to suggestions.
 
11:58 AM
@terdon nl -n rz
 
@Gilles Thanks, let me play with that. I'll also need to change the format of the other file in the same way.
Yes, that gets too complicated to be worth it, I think:
join -t$'\t' <(awk '{printf "%0.6d\n",$1}' L.txt) <(nl -n rz F.txt ) | cut -f2
I doubt that will have any advantage over the existing awk approaches.
Yup, slower than stéphane's, even at 500000 lines
 
@terdon How about with --nocheck-order? It works for me then.
On GNU join...
 
12:13 PM
@StephenKitt Yes, that's GNU only, I was hoping for a portable approach.
Also, that doesn't work anyway
 
Indeed, I just added a number over 10 in L.txt and it doesn't work :-(.
 
$ seq 1 50 > F.txt
$ seq 1 3 50 > L.txt
$ join --nocheck-order L.txt <(cat -n F.txt )
1 1
4 4
7 7
Yeah, I had tried it too.
I was quite surprised that there's no "sort numerically" option for join.
It seems like a pretty useful feature.
Could force it to do so via LC_COLLATE?
 
Yes, it would be nice to be able to combine it with nl generally...
 
 
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1:56 PM
@FaheemMitha you are missing all the fun in testing
@Anthon I read that as "if commenting would accelerate the process"
sorry
 
2:40 PM
@terdon actually, you are more awake if you sleep early and soundly (no apnea or waking up before time) for a couple of days
 
3:04 PM
@Braiam Completely irrelevant. Coffee is coffee and is not affected by how well I slept.
Sure, sleeping better means waking better but I always want a coffee. That's what addiction does to you.
 
3:18 PM
@Braiam You have an interesting idea of fun...
 
@terdon I was thinking you drink coffee to keep yourself awake/awakening
 
Oh no, not at all, I drink coffee to keep myself alive.
:)
Weird:
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Q: How can I identify the component responsible fro reordering keyboard input?

kasperdI have Ubuntu 14.04 running on a Dell Latitude 13 laptop. When I launch Chromium and open several pages from stackexchange in different tabs. Any text I type in will frequently have characters showing up in a different order from how they were typed. For example, this paragraph actually showed up...

 
3:34 PM
@terdon X server sending keystrokes async
it has happened to me
 
@Braiam Really? I've never seen that. WTF?
 
specially when the system is under stress
@terdon you need an old system to verify ;)
 
I'm on an old system.
$ inxi
CPU~Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) clocked at Min:1596.000Mhz Max:2394.000Mhz Kernel~4.0.0-1-amd64 x86_64 Up~1:01 Mem~1686.9/3517.2MB HDD~4000.8GB(59.0% used) Procs~231 Client~Shell inxi~2.1.28
 
@terdon it has more than a core... so it's not old ;)
 
Ha, OK. Still, I bought it more than 6 years ago, I think.
Hell, probably much more.
Yeah, that CPU was released in January 2007. Sorry, @Braiam but >8 years counts as old :)
 
3:40 PM
@terdon I'm still using P4
 
Ouch. OK, you win.
Although, that might actually be newer than mine. The P4s were shipped through August 8, 2008 :)
 
4:09 PM
@FaheemMitha could you flesh this out into an answer please?
As it stands , it's just a comment recommending some external resource.
 
@terdon are you talking about the TeX Live answer?
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, the one I linked to above.
 
@terdon sorry, didn't see the link.
 
It's just that at the moment your answer has 1) a suggestion with no details of how the OP would go about doing it (give them the commands to install the packages) and 2) a link only answer with all the issues associated with that.
 
I think that the most direct answer is that apt/dpkg has no idea you installed tex, because you simply didn't use it to install it
 
4:24 PM
@terdon I've expanded it. The commands are on the web page. Do you want me to quote those commands? That page could go away, I suppose, but it's been there for years.
 
@FaheemMitha Link rot is part of why we don't like link-only answers. The other part is that they don't actually answer. They indicate where an answer could be found.
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Q: Your answer is in another castle: when is an answer not an answer?

Shog9I think we can all agree, this sucks: If you've been around a little while, you've probably encountered hundreds of answers like this in various forums, some of them even marked as "The Answer" by well-meaning1 forum admins looking to close a thread. We could try to enumerate the commonly-obse...

 
Well, I quoted the whole thing. I hope I don't get sued for copyright infringement.
@terdon Sure, links can rot.
 
@FaheemMitha Great, thanks and +1
 
This ought to be a dupe, but maybe it isn't. This has certainly already been asked on tex.sx.
Those instructions aren't terribly well written. First it says:
$ aptitude install equivs # as root
later it says
$ sudo dpkg -i texlive-local_2015-1_all.deb
Not exactly consistent.
 

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