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1:13 AM
uk.reuters.com/article/2015/05/20/…? anyone know how 1000 shoulder launch anti-tank weapons will improve the situation in Iraq for suicide bombers? And why doesnt that work in the US to thwart the same things? Hey look they are going to blow up, lets add some firepower to it.
I always wondered who was supplying the "taliban" with all those "RPGs"
 
So they can destroy the car before it enters a populated area I guess.
 
even the DOD nuke lab with suicide car bomb protection doesnt use that method, they have a $$$$ big mounted machine gun.
It is beyond me to drive in with tanks and take over a country one day, and a few years later to be shipping mass anti-tank weapons to the same country :-) You wouldnt buy your X-wife which you herassed for the last 10 years a bottle of poisen :-)
 
1:48 AM
@Psycogeek: Truck bombs?
 
@JourneymanGeek Did you see that anti-truck bomb steel beam?
 
@JourneymanGeek It's basically a giant staple they drive into the ground outside buildings... It can stop speeding truck pretty much dead.
 
2:31 AM
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Q: what is the meaning of the following regular expression: \*.\?[A-Z]\?.*

Fu Lewhat is the meaning of the following regular expression: *.\?[A-Z]\?.*

Question under took a massive change
<sigh>
 
@Ramhound I rolled it back.
 
commented.
riddle me this. I have a smb fileshare on a centos 6.5 box. Password authenticated if it matters, and its on the other side of a ipsec vpn. Windows 7 box hangs on trying to copy a file over. Windows XP box dosen't
File's not big (16mb)
 
2:59 AM
Is it Explorer that hangs?
 
Yeah. Its like calculating transfer time, for hours
 
I'm sure I had something like that here at work... but I just can't remember what it ended up being.
 
The real solution is to use a protocol that doth not suck.
 
3:27 AM
...that moment when you try and contact someone about an issue with the softphone by leaving a message on their softphone...
 
lol. We've had people try to put in a ticket... about our ticketing system being down.
 
 
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4:42 AM
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Q: There is no "Convert MBR to GBT" option in EaseUs Partition Master

RostamianiI want to convert my disk to GBT to install windows 10. I found this solution to convert it: http://www.partition-tool.com/resource/GPT-disk-partition-manager/convert-mbr-disk-to-gpt-disk.htm But in Easeus there is no convert option! What's wrong?

Two spam answers.
Sadly, I can't protect it just yet...
I guess a mod or Community will do so.
 
Flagged.
 
5:07 AM
Uhh , isnt the "real" problem here back at the start ? partitiontool,com is not easus, but they sell easus. Easus fre3eware version does not support GPT, that is where it crosses the pay line? at least that is how it was at one time or another.
so the original question itself could be ? deemd to be spam to begin with?
I am sure you guys "dont even have to look" to much to know. but to me that original question is a competition spam. If you search for Easus and GPT, you find parittiontoo.com who sells the competitive product. the original question is not a question, it is an answer.
 
5:25 AM
well that is all wrong. the free version does now allow GPT, and partitiontroll is the actual easeus company.
I cant believe I once supported such people :-) "we have moved into data security and storage management" oh sure and everyone loves for thier security people to be spammers owned in china
 
6:12 AM
Some chipsets I've (almost) never heard of: Q87 and Q85.
From what I know, these are business-oriented chipsets which provide management functionality like vPro (on Q87).
 
Pretty much
IIRC they're very similar to B series + vpro
 
Q-series chipsets are almost never encountered in home computing.
 
3
A: Are there significant performance difference between chipsets?

Journeyman GeekNot entirely - I'm not familiar with AMD, but the big difference between chipsets within a generation for intel is really the supported hardware and features. With the SB chipsets, the Z P and H designations determined if various combination of onboard video support and caching were supported - t...

 
B85 is occasionally seen on less expensive home machines, although H81 is probably more common.
 
There's some NUCs with Q series chipsets too
 
6:16 AM
Mainstream performance typically uses H87 or H97, while premium systems usually have Z87 or Z97.
 
In theory, H series is for home use, P series is for "professional" use, and Z is enthusiast. Q is P + vpro (tho I was convinced it was H + vpro a moment ago)
 
P is no longer used.
 
Yeah, cause the P series didn't support onboard video, and that was dumb.
 
For traditional laptops, HM86 is used on mainstream systems, while premium systems use HM87 (which is what my laptop has).
Business laptops use QM87.
QM87 is practically never seen on anything other than business laptops.
Low-power laptops (e.g. Ultrabooks) have their chipsets built into the processor.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek :(
<== has a P67
 
6:30 AM
with there being a lot of cpus and boards out there that were sandy and ivy , and them not being hugely different from haswell in speed and features, people could probably slap together pretty close to full speed computers with used parts for really cheap? Unlike trying to survive on a P4 or other things before that larger jump
If i had gone with sandy (at that time) or Ivy (at that time) , i would probably still be with it.
 
Bob
Hmm
 
How many kickstarters (or similar) are reaching a whole year of time past the stated delievery times ? (and have 1 Million dollers :-) kickstarter.com/projects/lix3d/…
 
Bob
@allquixotic Now I'm wondering if it's safe nabbing a Server2012 key off here :P
 
because they now have thier own site failedstarter.com
 
@Psycogeek Common cause of project failure is overrunning the budget or time constraints.
It's a very frequent issue in project management.
 
6:40 AM
me being a waiter +6mo +user actual results, i sort of like reading the comments from them, and there are more than a few projects that are falling way behind in time.
I have been in a few specailty forums where they basically did kickstarters without a project site, and a few (relative) of those have gone really badly too. Sometimes the dude had "left the country" a long time ago, and continued to string people along for multiple years.
take another look at our wonderous (single) proptotype and more cool cad drawings, but dont ask my wife where were going to get the rest of the money i already spent.
 
7:22 AM
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Q: Can VMs offload checksum calculations to the physical NIC when I disable checksum offload on the host?

Oliver SalzburgDue to random issues during backup, we were advised to disable checksum offload on all physical and virtual machines involved in the backup procedure. I started by disabling the feature on all Hyper-V hosts and the target storage server, but I still see random failing backups. Do I need to also...

 
Bob
7:57 AM
@allquixotic What did you have to manually configure for lxd/lxc?
 
the fun of php weeeeee
Ok I think I'm going bonkers
$newFilePath = './reports/' . $newName;
$newFile = fopen($newFilePath, 'w');
fwrite($newFile, $result);
Telling me that $newFile is a boolean!? D:
Ok it gets weirder............
$newFile = fopen($newFilePath, 'w');
print_r $newFile;

Gives me syntax error, unexpected '$newFile' (T_VARIABLE) in /var/www/html/Tim/RegTracker/getReports.php on line 38
Whoops, I r dum dum
 
8:13 AM
@djsmiley2k Please use Ctrl+K to format code. It makes it easier to read
Also, make sure $newName is not provided through user input ;D
 
haha it's not :)
woooo this is cool.
I forgot the brackets :(
 
Bob
8:38 AM
@allquixotic Current plan: grab a SYS or SP-64 (still haven't decided), chuck deb + lxc/lxd on there for Linux containers, chuck kvm on for a Windows server to play with
hm... actually, wouldn't 2x SYS be cheaper than a single SP-64? o.O
 
Oh YAML, I hate you, I really do.
Why can't people stick to braces :'(
 
It probably hates you too. And wishes you were gone
3
 
hehe
soooooo i just discovered flush() and ob_flush() :O
 
9:11 AM
Just got done changing that...
 
the tire or the fender :-)
 
Changed the tire, then ripped the fender off.
 
o_O
empty($_SESSION['mprn','mpan','customerid','customerregid']
sadness that this doens't work :(
unless someone can advise differently...
 
It has that impressionist appeal with contrasting tones, and the use of blue accents the insubstantial tention, providing for a ebullience of perturbation, the elegance bestowed in the shadows, where the rubber meats the road.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank ...what happened?
 
9:27 AM
@Bob My mother in law was behind a truck and she wanted to change lanes but didn't get out from behind the truck before it stopped.
 
Bob
ouch
 
She was alright, but yea... the car was pretty munted.
 
Bob
9:46 AM
@allquixotic Hmm... ovh.ie is 82 EUR, while ovh.com is 109 USD. Something doesn't add up.
...the last thing I'm concerned about is the lack of KVMoverIP
I have a rather bad track record with networking going down -_-
 
Jet
Good morning everybody!

@JourneymanGeek: "@Jet Are you saying a dog can't be a security engineer?"
No, dog can be security guard, but not engineer ;-)
 
morning
 
Oh look rsync changes their goddamn protocol
Now I know why my script breaks -_-
 
wut
 
@Jet: That's speciesist.
 
Jet
9:53 AM
OVH.com gives "Unlimited" traffic http://www.ovh.ie/web-hosting/
I don't like when hostings say "Unlimited" traffic/bandwidth or even disk space,
it's kinda trick to get more customers.
They usually are not unlimited or are not stable (on my own experience).
@Bob Is OVH reliable?
 
Bob
There's a rather big difference between "unlimited" shared hosting (eww) and a dedi you pay $100/month for.
 
heh. ANYTHING is better than shared hosting.
 
@Jet Get a system with unlimited disk space and then cat /dev/zero > lulz. See how it goes
 
Jet
oh but this looks good http://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/bandwidth-upgrade.xml
37.5 eur for 1Gbps
 
10:03 AM
@Jet lol "Franckfort"
They obviously know their network very well ;)
 
Bob
> The OVH Europe network

The OVH America network

The OVH Asia network
No love for Australia :(
I should obviously move to Singapore (cc @JourneymanGeek)
 
Jet
@OliverSalzburg it's still good because they didn't wrote "F**kfort" :D
 
hkmmmm
 
@Jet If you put a map of "your network" on your website, you should at least get the names right ;P
 
Can I break out of a foreach loop from within a if loop?
foreach { .... if { ..... (IF SOMETHING TRUE HERE END BOTH LOOPS } };
(php)
I could set a variable to true within the if loop, then check it within the foreach and break out there?
 
10:13 AM
@Bob: SIngapore's a internet hub. APPARENTLY hosting is super pricy tho
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek probably because there's no space for DCs :P
 
@djsmiley2k if is not a loop
 
k heh
 
So, you only need to break anyway
 
Sorted it anyway wiht my proposed idea :)
foreach { if {.....; break} }
that won't break out of the foreach, or will it?
 
Jet
10:18 AM
@djsmiley2k , I'm not good at PHP, but does PHP have smtg like"Go To Label"? if yes, you could put a label out of for, then jump to it
(though I don't know if it's bad practice in PHP)
 
@djsmiley2k I'm not sure what else it would do
 
Wow, now we're breaking out the gotos
 
hehe i drive people to desperate measures :)
normally 50oz or more ;)
 
10:21 AM
 
:O
oh man it's nested foreach's
I need to break outta both :O
 
@Bob: Someone should just an old container ship, run cables to it, and set up a data center in reefer containers ;p
 
this is growing in a monstrotiy lol
/me is scared of his code
 
Jet
@djsmiley2k you need to breakout both
 
hehe ty :)
urgh handling csv's isn't exactly easy D:
 
10:35 AM
lol. Human use or machine use?
 
machine
pastebin.com/KjbHZJ7L is what I have right now
I'm still sooooo new to this. Before here I'd never written any code that worked ;D
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm only 31, give me a break :P
 
Naw. Pacnet got bought by telstra. Then got hacked.
(Pacnet used to be a singaporean ISP, who then divested all that and just did trunky stuff)
 
@OliverSalzburg LOL
 
10:41 AM
o
 
@djsmiley2k Why does the inner loop start with a continue O__o
 
se told me to :(
I did ponder it but didn't test D:
 
Well, no code below it will execute, just FYI ;D
And the OR operator usage is somewhat confusing
 
11:08 AM
ok
anyway tyhat's gone
got fun with undefined offsets D:
/me ponders if he has a blank report or something.
foreach( $csv as $z )
if (!empty($z))
So now i'm checking for it being blanik, but still get error.
this new fangled OO hurts mah head
 
11:27 AM
How can $z be empty if it's a member of $csv
 
i dunno D:
Undefined index: accountNo in /var/www/html/Tim/RegTracker/getRegistrations.php on line 231
						if( (($mpan === $z['endPoint']) OR ($mprn === $z['endPoint']) OR ($customerid === $z['accountNo']) OR ($customerregid === $z['accountNo']) && ($suspense_found === 'TRUE') && ($buttonGen == 0) ))
I've tried it with indexes (3 and 4) or the name of the index as above...
[2] => 378001 [3] => [4] =>
eww, they ARE blank :/
That'll why then?
 
12:32 PM
@djsmiley2k Erm, I would be surprised if OR does what you want
Usually, you'd use ||
And, it probably helps to print the contents of what you're working with with var_dump or something like that
I just exceled myself an overview over our domains and how much we pay for them :\
=SUM([@Domains]) equals INT_OVERFLOW
 
1:01 PM
inclusive or?
hah
at a old job I totalled up 400+ domains we were paying for and not even using.
Got told to point them all at some scheme with cupid.com D:
 
1:31 PM
Can anyone give me a sanity check?
print(str(self._dur) + " LESS THAN 10? " + str(self._dur < float(self.max_size / 2)))
self.max_size is 20
I get the output:
9.91666666667 LESS THAN 10? True
9.95833333333 LESS THAN 10? True
10.0 LESS THAN 10? True
10.0416666667 LESS THAN 10? False
I guess floating point math is trying to mess with me.
 
1:52 PM
@slhck Probably
 
Bob
@slhck python?
 
Yup
 
Bob
are you sure self.max_size is 20?
 
Yeah, when printing self._dur with full precision it actually shows that it's 10.00000000000something
 
2:17 PM
hmm, so here's a different audience (in SU): would you say SICP (learning Scheme Lisp) is a reasonable first language approach?
I mean, in the sense of learning some classic, perhaps emphasizing a "functional" language.
Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (SICP) is a textbook aiming to teach the principles of computer programming, such as abstraction in programming, metalinguistic abstraction, recursion, interpreters, and modular programming. It is widely considered a classic text in computer science, and is colloquially known as the wizard book, due to the wizard on the jacket. It was first published in 1985 by MIT Press and written by Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professors Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman, with Julie Sussman. It was formerly used as the textbook of MIT ...
or is it more important to learn about using libraries in this day and age?
(sort of quoting some other forum remarks in that last quip.)
 
@BradyTrainor functional is a very good paradigm to learn, even if you don't end up writing all your programs in Lisp/OCaml/Erlang/Haskell. It's kind of a "mathy" type of programming with a lot of analysis compared to e.g. OOP, but you can use functional concepts to great effect in languages like Java and C#, too.
@BradyTrainor you need to be minimally familiar with a lot of different paradigms and libraries, and have a few strong competencies where you have very deep knowledge of that programming paradigm and some libraries that you can use for tasks you're hoping to accomplish
 
yeah, I figure a first component in my learning is a little arbitrary, and may as well start with a skill that not /everyone/ has had a chance to emphasize, or whatever.
 
doing that is called being "T-shaped" -- lots of breadth, and a narrow field of depth
 
ah, so a good first skill set is a T-shape, you're sort of saying?
 
@BradyTrainor No, I'm saying that is what you should aim to become with time, if your goal is to become a competent programmer.
Cast a wide net of interests and things that you can talk about -- maybe having just a few hours of experience with that particular technology or concept -- but then have a small handful of programming domains and libraries that you know inside and out
As far as knowing library APIs "vs." knowing programming paradigms, you really can't have one without the other. You need to be very good at at least one programming paradigm, whether it's OOP, functional, procedural, logical, whatever -- or else you won't be able to do anything useful.
You can technically do without libraries if you're a very good programmer and can reinvent the wheel accurately and quickly, but most people can be more productive by reusing existing code (libraries) than learning how to code up something equivalent themselves.
The key is learning how to find documentation (or how to effectively and quickly read someone else's code), so that you can spend only a small amount of time learning how to use some random library you come across that purports to do something you need.
And, the more libraries you're familiar with, the less time it tends to take to learn how to use the next one... past experience informs the inferences you can make about a new library you're learning.
 
2:29 PM
Hopefully I have better luck with using libraries than i did at using theorem's in math classes. i tended to reinvent the wheel rather than figuring out how to get the theorem to match my problem.
*theorems
 
@OliverSalzburg $a || $b Or TRUE if either $a or $b is TRUE. vs $a or $b Or TRUE if either $a or $b is TRUE.
They look equivalent to me? :/
 
seems odd to say Logical is a programming paradigm.
i suppose it at least contrasts with declarative, at that level.
 
logical programming....
i.e simple automations?
 
Logic programming is a programming paradigm based on formal logic. A program written in a logic programming language is a set of sentences in logical form, expressing facts and rules about some problem domain. Major logic programming language families include Prolog, Answer set programming (ASP) and Datalog. In all of these languages, rules are written in the form of clauses: H :- B1, …, Bn. and are read declaratively as logical implications: H if B1 and … and Bn. H is called the head of the rule and B1, …, Bn is called the body. Facts are rules that have no body, and are written in the simplified...
 
Sooooo yup :D
 
2:36 PM
As you can see from the index on the right, there are tons of programming paradigms.
 
seems more like a component of almost every other commonly used language.
 
Certain industries may use some paradigms more frequently than others, but overall, the most widely used (and thus important) programming paradigms this decade are functional and object-oriented (in no particular order)
 
(strpos(!empty($z['3']),$mprn)) --- you know that feeling when you cannot identify what is now wrong..
 
you're using regex? ;p
 
(--perl(%!is($_illegible)))
 
2:39 PM
it's php ±_+±
 
There you go.
 
ha, are those bags under caffeined eyeballs
 
caffine and suggggarrrrr
20min to go and my brain has finally melted.
 
"it's php" doesn't convince me that it's any less illegible
 
today it's a short quad latte for me
 
2:41 PM
hehe
I'mma gonna imagine your brady from youtube.
just because my brain is now a mushy puddle
 
hmm, TIL functional "map" and "apply" can replace procedural's loops.
 
3:35 PM
hey @JourneymanGeek
 
hey
what's up?
 
the /puppy dir on your new container is an sshfs over to puppy.tq ;p
 
convenient? :P
 
lol. I was planning on setting it up from scratch, but yes
Then I can just do a database dump, copy it over, and use that with a new install
 
3:38 PM
yeah
 
I'll probably be able to move off tq sat I guess? ;p
 
no rush - I plan on simply not renewing the service, which means tq will just become unroutable (permanently) as of June 12th or so
I don't think anything on Cavil still needs to be copied over
Cavil the bot is already up, and I don't remember if I had anything else over there that I need to copy
 
 
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4:42 PM
blerpy blerp
@allquixotic Then there's programmable logic arrays...
Programmable Array Logic (PAL) is a family of programmable logic device semiconductors used to implement logic functions in digital circuits introduced by Monolithic Memories, Inc. (MMI) in March 1978. MMI obtained a registered trademark on the term PAL for use in "Programmable Semiconductor Logic Circuits". The trademark is currently held by Lattice Semiconductor. PAL devices consisted of a small PROM (programmable read-only memory) core and additional output logic used to implement particular desired logic functions with few components. Using specialized machines, PAL devices were "field-...
 
So the creator of the Spanning Tree algorithm is giving a speech today here.
!!wiki Radia Perlman
 
Radia Joy Perlman (born 1951) is a software designer and network engineer. She is most famous for her invention of the spanning-tree protocol (STP), which is fundamental to the operation of network bridges, while working for Digital Equipment Corporation. She also made large contributions to many other areas of network design and standardization, such as link-state protocols, including TRILL, which she invented to correct some of the shortcomings of spanning-trees. She is currently employed by EMC Corporation. == Early research == As an undergraduate at MIT she undertook a UROP (Undergrad...
 
This brings to mind how computer science used to be a very female-populated field, and somehow that stopped within the past couple decades :|
It's too bad.
 
Yeah, it is.
We're organizing a WordPress event next week and the female ratio of the people who signed up is smaller than 20%
 
Heh. The ratio was about 10:1 males to females in my school in the computer science major.
 
4:52 PM
I imagine the proportion in a "hardcore" engineering field to be even smaller than in design and webdev.
Yep.
 
Similar at work, probably even more pronounced.
 
I wonder if I go to this very technical talk, in a language I'm not fluent in, in what I suppose won't have real-time translation, this is how I'll look
 
You'll catch the occasional word that you understand and have flashes of excitement on your face as you hang onto each of those words.
 
!!learn understand '<> i.imgur.com/4GI6BDx.jpg';
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Command understand learned
 
4:56 PM
!!understand
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy i.imgur.com/4GI6BDx.jpg
@ThatBrazilianGuy Command understand learned
@ThatBrazilianGuy Input not matching /http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/4GI6BDx.jpg'/. Help: User-taught command: '<>
 
Chat should detect image links and auto-embed the image under the message.
 
@BenRichards When I watch movies and try not to look at the subtitles it's a... confusing experience.
Depending on the actor and the accent, I can understand from 99% to 9%
 
4:57 PM
What language is it that you don't understand?
fluently, that is
 
All of them that are not Brazilian Portuguese :P
Cate Blanchett in Lord of The Rings: "OMG I UNDERSTAND ENGLISH!"
Brad Pitt in Snatch: "WHAAAAAAT?"
 
Ah lol
But you can read English! (Or you use Google Translate quickly :P)
 
http://support.speedify.com/article/117-how-to-combine-two-wi-fi-internet-connections

Fad or real?
 
@Boris_yo Real, but not sure how well it actually works
 
Then I'll just have to ask everyone on the room to type instead of talk!
 
5:02 PM
I remember being in a chat room a long time ago with someone who only spoke/wrote Russian, and I don't at all, so I posted in English, he copied it to Google Translate to Russian, then he posted Russian, and I Google Translated it to English.
It mostly worked fine :P
 
There are / were chat services that do that automatically :P
 
Yeah but this was IRC
 
@Psycogeek Didn't know. Can you make excuse when you are brought into court?
@allquixotic Maybe it does not combine but chooses best connection for optimization?
 
@Boris_yo Don't know, but reminiscent of those downloader programs like download accelerator from back when we were all on dialup and IE couldn't pause downloads for you.
Actually, IE could but it was technically only possible by exploiting an unhandled error case in IE. :)
Crashing/force quitting IE during an active download would bypass its cleanup of temporary files, of which was a partially downloaded file. So next time you go to download the file again, if you choose to save it in the same location as last time, it would pick up from where you left off.
Back when we were on dial-up and it was a shared computer that used our only phone line, I took advantage of this after discovering it by accident one day. :)
 
@BenRichards Can you do me a favor? Can you travel back in 1998 and tell me "Dude, do not friggin' download GetRight and force quit IE instead!"
 
5:11 PM
XD
@Boris_yo I actually used Download Accelerator for a while, myself. :P
 
Oh yeah and tell me secret phrase "I am T800" so I would not freak out?
 
5:40 PM
helo
help*
 
5:51 PM
I have laptop with Win10 preview expired, when I boot the laptop it does "system resume" and goes back to the expiration screen.
The startup options from the expiration screen are not working.
and I am unable to start from CD because the laptop is resuming automatically to the broken OS.
Samsung laptop
One option I came up with is to remove the HD and clean the win10 installation from it, but yeah... Is there some way to prevent the BIOS from resuming to broken install?
 
windows 10 is a complete bastard, remove it at once or face constant stress
 
well not sure about that but bricking my laptop because of the "resuming system without confirmation" is a bit annoying
 
because its using stupid EFI it cannot use legacy too which I assume the CD drive is
 
yeh
however, if I mash esc,f8,f10,f12 and delete
 
I had to remove the drive
 
5:56 PM
I get the screen of boot options
however I esced out of it
 
how old is the laptop
just curious
 
iits something like 5 years ~~
 
I dont like any new windows OS from 2k/XP I dont care how vunerable they both theoreticallyare
Id just get 7 or xp
 
aand choosing dvd from the boot options starts the broken win10...
 
yes, when I choose 2nd hdd it used to try to boot from LAN or some thing
so the boot menu is not gona work probably because of EFI
 
5:59 PM
great..
 
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