« first day (840 days earlier)      last day (2206 days later) » 

12:00 AM
 
curious, if i opened up IE, Firefox, Firefox Dev and Chrome and logged into Anime and manga would i then be able to cast 4 votes or do i need separate logins for each
 
@LoganM Probably because it's too big.
@Memor-X Probably separate logins.
 
Restart trolls are on Arqade now
keep an eye out for them here
 
when does new season start?
 
around now
though it only picks up around next week iirc
 
12:02 AM
ermagawd.. TT is doing their april fools.. its soooo annoying
 
just use nyaa instead
 
@Eric that thing is awsome thanks
 
@LoganM there's supposed to be a link that gets rid of it.. i need to try and remember..
 
we have a restart troll here
 
@LoganM He must not have lasted long.
Arqade is getting restart-trolled, though.
 
12:05 AM
3 users running the script though (and one who is just flagging every attempt) so it's hard for one troll to do much
 
Even the flagger would cancel the restart, though.
I don't know why SE added that option.
It is literally never beneficial.
And Arqade just got reset after 52 days.
 
Arqade just got restarted
yep
I hope they don't come for us next
Not sure what arqade did but if it's just being near the top of the leaderboard, we're a bigger target.
 
nothing new for today
 
Well
There was a thread that posted records on it
Arqade, Blender, and PPCG were on it.
 
records on what? raiding other sites?
 
12:08 AM
No, on fastest completion.
Blender was fastest beta before PPCG.
 
oh yeah. We probably aren't going to beat those without better logic.
2
But that's a pretty silly reason to raid someone imo
 
It is, but I wouldn't put it past anyone.
 
you'll beat PPCG and arqade pretty handily at this rate
since they're getting griefed constantly
 
They are, yeah. Hard to say if they will target anyone else, since we don't know why Arqade was targeted.
I figured it would stop after PPCG.
 
At this rate, yes. But we could easily become a target ourselves.
 
12:11 AM
PPCG still hasn't stopped being griefed, btw
 
Seriously?
 
neither has arqade
both stuck in restart loops
 
They are busy restarting it over and over by themselves.
 
They didn't leave after the 73,592nd reset in private beta?
 
nope
 
12:11 AM
... That's pathetic.
 
well I hope they don't get you guys too
because then you'll be dead in the water as well
 
Yeah. Sorry it happened to you guys.
 
its probably the chinese
 
I blame @Frosteeze. Because it rhymes.
 
12:13 AM
i think he's chinese too
 
Nope. Asian, but not Chinese.
 
in case anyone is wondering about the seeming random statement, the chinese got mad that everyone is blaming the github ddos on them
so many cross room chatters today
i wonder if that's the point of the game
 
@Eric the bot is just java i can run in a browser console right?
 
@Memor-X you can't run java in the a browser console
 
It's JS
 
12:15 AM
It's JavaScript, I don't know if it would run straight in the console.
Something like TamperMonkey or CJS is what I've been going with.
 
you can run it in firefox if you press shift + f4
 
@Gerret no no .. you can run it anywhere by pressing alt+f4, you should try it now
 
Just got some nothing votes
 
Sent
 
@Eric thanks
 
12:17 AM
Sometimes the one main troll seems to vote flag, in hopes that it'll go through.
 
It's nice that he's hopeful.
 
(it shouldn't unless something really bad happens)
 
i'm so bored waiting for my food to thicken... i'm tempted to join the fray
no new anime, no new manga chapters.. tuesdays suck.. i hope there's a more even distribution of anime this coming season
 
@eric seems like i could just copy and paste code in the Developer Tools Console for Chrome though it'll only seem to work if i have the StackEgg open on the page
 
Correct.
 
12:23 AM
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ my question on anger got an answer, generally he seems to say that reduced bloodflow to the brain is why people get stupid when angry
 
I just realized I should have made the script just load the primary script from a remote URL. Then it could have been updated without requiring any intervention from anyone but me.
Noted for future botting.
 
yes, I was wondering why you didn't do that. Figured there was a technical obstruction.
 
@Eric that's how zirak's bot works
 
I'm sure it would have been possible.
@ton.yeung It's a good way to do it. I guess I didn't expect it to become more widespread than Logan and me.
 
I do hope you guys feel comfortable with winning via bots
I personally wouldn't
 
12:32 AM
I don't particularly have feelings one way or another. It doesn't mean anything in the end.
 
@Runer112 It's mainly a counter to restart votes, since at one point there were only 3 people voting making it really easy to reset
 
We didn't even get the best strategy.
 
Our bot is pretty terrible tbh.
 
Yeah. It's basically a naive solution.
 
a naive botted solutiom is still a botted solution
 
12:33 AM
'Tis.
 
kind of defeats the purpose of this being a game for people to have fun
 
@Runer112 its the american way
2
 
As for whether I'm comfortable winning, I don't think I was ever viewing this as a network-wide game. A lot of other people are, which is presumably why people started raiding other sites. But for me, it's just a silly exercise.
 
it's not PPCG's or arqade's way
 
look at any competetive sport and tell me one that doesn't involve cheating
 
12:34 AM
oh okay
it's okay to cheat, everyone else does it too
 
Now THAT's the American way!
Luckily, I'm not American.
 
yeppers
 
except not everybody else does it
certainly neither PPCG nor arqade
 
Everyone else could be beating us with better strategies.
 
shrugs
 
12:35 AM
And they were, too.
 
I think if PPCG didn't reset then Anime would be almost tied if not winning
 
Until the revenge of the raiders destroyed the only two that were trying.
 
(admittedly, the raiding is killing that, which is unfortunate)
 
you sound like that shouldn't be the way
that better stratgies shouldn't win
better bots should?
 
PPCG has a better average. Resetting doesn't hurt your average, so I think PPCG would still be in the lead. But maybe by not so much.
 
12:36 AM
I have no power to stop you guys
 
let me put it this way, and to be clear, i did not participate in the game what so ever - I'm of the opinion, and i could very well be wrong, that you're really too into this, because you take the time to come over here to - for the lack of a more sensitive word, whine about it, chill out, its just a game
 
all I can do is try to convince you to play the game yourselves
 
scrolls up to figure out who is whining
 
if it's just a game, why are you guys trying so much to write a bot for it
 
12:38 AM
Because that's the challenge for us. (At least, for me.)
I'm a programmer.
 
Click-farming games aren't fun for me, but making the program is.
 
just because you can, doesn't mean you should
I could steal lollipops from little kids
 
Nope. If this was a serious competition with rules and real-world prizes with a requirement that said "no botting", I wouldn't do it.
 
12:39 AM
you probably would do it often if you were a thief by trade
 
I feel like 95% of active users start on SO and migrate to their respective places. So most of us are programmers. A few aren't.
 
But it's a friendly contest that means nothing, and after tomorrow there will be no evidence it even happened.
 
@Runer112 that didn't stop the guy in Lightning Returns getting Lightning to kill monsters for him to pass his Hunters Exam, and he still became one
 
you guys aren't being friendly by fighting with bots
 
@Rainbolt a lot of us are programmers here too
 
12:40 AM
That's... what I just said lol
 
If you're viewing it as a fight, that's the first problem.
 
@Memor-X LOL got to that part huh?
 
For us, it's an optimization problem.
 
just like raiding was
greatly optimizes performance
 
Does it?
 
12:40 AM
@Runer112 have you ever heard of the saying, when all you use is a hammer, everything looks like a nail?
 
@ton.yeung a while back, didn't really have to try as i already had surplus supplies to give him
 
yep
 
Blowing up Bing doesn't optimize Google's search engine.
 
Only if you judge based on the leaderboard, rather than the actual results.
 
what are the actual results
 
12:41 AM
Errr... these analogies are awful. StackEgg is 100% useless. Google is useful
 
@Rainbolt ... If it's 100% useless, why is there an issue using bots? This is entirely my point: the game isn't some kind of real contest that we have to prove ourselves in.
 
Raiding doesn't help your own site's performance. It only hurts others.
 
We have our own fun making a bot to do this. PPCG and Arqade made a better strategy, and they had fun doing that.
 
@Eric When did I say there was an issue using bots?
 
Aside from the raiding, none of it hurt anyone or made anyone inferior.
 
12:42 AM
You must have me confused with someone else.
 
@Rainbolt Perhaps. There's so many people talking right now it's hard to keep track of stances.
 
I'm very confused what we're arguing about right now.
 
if you guys were just interested in the challenge of writing a good bot for this, you could test it, confirm that it works, and then stop and let people who want to try manually have a chance
 
@Rainbolt we've mostly been addressing @Runer112
 
@Eric the raiding prevents other sites from being able to play
 
12:43 AM
@MattGiltaji Yes. I said aside from the raiding.
 
if you guys want to bot your own site's egg, have at it
 
As in, not counting the raiding, it's harmless.
 
good thing we're not raiding (afaict)
 
@Runer112 but you need human elements to try and break the bots to see where the flaws are
 
you guys don't care about the final leaderboard, right?
you should try testing your creations on sites that can use a boost
be friendly with them
 
12:45 AM
@Runer112 I've been experimenting with them on some sites.
 
@Runer112 Complain on meta. It sure as heck worked for this guy. That way, this chat room can stop arguing about it and the people who still care can take it to meta.
 
@Runer112 runer, are you pissed that you can't go forward, or that we are further along because of bots?
 
both
damn phone
 
As far as I can tell, what the answer on meta.stackexchange.com/questions/252393/… says is basically "have fun in a way that doesn't hurt the ability of others to have fun on other sites". In which case, I don't see what us using bots really has to do with it at all.
 
@Rainbolt GOOD IDEA! i want to complain about no animes today
 
12:46 AM
No one complained when I used a bot to mine 10k extra unicoins last year.
 
I raided your anime. That's why there are none.
 
@Runer112 as @LoganM is saying, then you shouldn't be pissed at us, afaik, we're not raiding you, and if you're mad cuz we're using bots.. i can't help you
 
it's not very fun knowing you're playing against a computer program that never sleeps
 
You do realize that, whether they are playing with 5 bots or 1 human, they win Internets at the exact same pace?
 
@Runer112 We aren't "against" you at all.
 
12:47 AM
@Runer112 don't ever invest in stocks
 
yes Rainbolt
but I want to lose to a human who tried
not a robot
 
@Runer112 i don't care about April Fools to begin with. pain in the ass in terms of news, very hard to tell what's true or not (ie. si there a new tablet that will bet Applies iPad coming out soon? are we really having a chocolate crisis). though this year it's good cause i can stufy code and Nero is the most popular artist
 
Would you prefer that humans serve up your webpages too? As opposed to a web server?
 
We played exactly the same strategy the bot is currently using for quite a few runs.
 
@Runer112 try harder, it doesn't sound like our bot is doing better than you guys by a lot, if at all
 
12:49 AM
What about Minecraft? Should humans be shifting around all those blocks while I play?
 
we can't do anything
 
The main reason we started botting it is because people started raiding us.
 
we're getting restarted constantly
 
@Rainbolt he's gonna drive manually while everyone is riding in a google bot
@Runer112 so it comes down to you think we're raiding you
 
Well, stick shift is still the cool thing to do AFAIK
 
12:50 AM
or.. you're taking out your frustration on us, since you don't know who is raiding you
@Rainbolt i miss stick shift
i don't even like padle shifters
all the new sports cars are paddle shifts now
 
I can't even. I can stick shift a tractor but not a car.
 
@Rainbolt srsly? i would have thought a tractor would be way harder
 
It is way harder. But you don't have to be smooth about it
 
@Rainbolt nope, leave it to the Enderman, they know what they are doing
 
Lurch all you want at 5 MPH
 
12:51 AM
I hope you guys get a bunch of bots to help you out, since you love bots so much
 
@Rainbolt LOL
 
maybe pressing the restart button
perhaps then you'll understand why bots ruin it
 
@Runer112 we have like three bots in here.. so yea.. bots are pretty popular
!!welcome runer
 
#banana
 
12:52 AM
@runer Welcome to the Maid Café! The only rule is to be nice.Welcome back, my Master! お帰りなさいませ、ご主人様! We're now serving the Animu & Mangos with a side of Moé. Sit back and relax with general chat for anime.stackexchange.com
 
yay @Taisho beat her
 
lol using a bot to greet someone
 
grumbles wait till i move her to a server
 
Are you guys using bots or something? Looks pretty organized.
 
@bjb568 wow late to the game
 
12:53 AM
Ooh, looks like the griefer is gone.
 
!!welcome bjb
 
@bjb Welcome to the Maid Café! The only rule is to be nice.Welcome back, my Master! お帰りなさいませ、ご主人様! We're now serving the Animu & Mangos with a side of Moé. Sit back and relax with general chat for anime.stackexchange.com
 
@bjb568 who now?
 
The bot who kept trying to flag.
 
Needs a space after nice. :P
 
12:54 AM
@Sp3000 shhhh
that greeting has been around for awhile, i think you're the first to bitch about it point it out
 
*space after the period after nice
 
@bjb568 i'm not playing, so i dunno
gaaaah! lalalallallala i can't hear you
 
@ton.yeung that's because it's a charm of HoiHoi-san's
 
i'm full, gonna go play watch dogs now, that game's drama is much better than the dorama here
i just wish the main character's name wasn't aiden
there are so many aidens in houston
seems like everyone and their mama is naming their boys aiden
 
@Eric I am as Chinese as you are Swedish :P
 
12:57 AM
@Frosteeze Yup.
 
Having fun browsing anime SE since I'm on a phone and can't play. There's some good unanswered questions here...
 
@Sp3000 good questions do not have an answer
 
Is there a god? Where do we came from? Etc.
 
@Frosteeze if you believe in god. we came from a womb
 
@Eric the reset thing still doesn't seem to be fixed btw. Last time I had to click it manually.
 
1:10 AM
@LoganM You sure?
 
yes
 
Wtf. I overwrote that fix. One sec.
@LoganM Fixed version uploaded.
 
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ the easter event rewards really sucks..
 
So you're the bot maniacs....?
 
Sounds accurate.
 
1:13 AM
:D
 
@GiantCowFilms yes, oh great cow
 
The botted fight back!
we also share our source :P
 
I will post mine after the event :P
 
@Eric give me a ping, I'd like to see how you did it
 
@GiantCowFilms we aren't the ones raiding you (at least I'm pretty sure we aren't), if that's what you're thinking.
 
1:15 AM
@GiantCowFilms Will do.
 
@LoganM wait, whos attacking then, I though you alls were the ones with the bots
 
Hm? No, we only bot ourselves.
 
@GiantCowFilms we're botting our own site. Not anyone else's though.
 
@LoganM oh? you mean to win or to restart, 'cause I think you're getting alot of unjustif blame then if you haven't been attacking us...
 
1:16 AM
@Logan This suspicion probably stems from you explicitly saying you'd written a bot to restart PPCG earlier. If you're not using it now, that's fine, but it's not like it hasn't come up here...
 
Honestly, I have no idea who it is that's on Arqade and PPCG.
 
@Geobits link?
 
Okay... oh wow.... I think I'm going to leave.... um you should add an 18+ warining to this room
 
@GiantCowFilms yes, one of your guys ( @Runer112 ) came here to rant for looooong time
 
@GiantCowFilms to be fair we did all manually in the morning
lol...
 
1:17 AM
@Geobits Thanks to some people quoting out of context...
 
@GiantCowFilms is it 18+?
there's like no skin showing other than legs. I've seen more skin walking around malls
 
@Geobits Well, I made like a 2-line modification of our existing bot, and tested it on a site no one was using. I didn't actually ever run it anywhere that was actively using their egg though. Certainly not PPCG or Arqade.
 
btw, I'm still here
 
Hi!
 
@Runer112 better?
 
1:19 AM
and World Engineer told me he wished bots went straight to hell
so I'm apparently not the only one who thinks botting isn't nice to do
 
@Runer112 the world would be a much more.. mundane world
no NPCs in games
no cheap cars to drive
no mass produced stuff period
 
you guys love taking things incredibly out of context
 
Like I said, we did all manually in the morning. Got it to 2nd place. Bot started when we got raided iirc
 
with analogies that make no sense
 
@Runer112 I think you're conflating two very different things. Using bots to raid another site is pretty rude. But if we use bots on our own site, it isn't harming anyone that I can tell.
 
1:20 AM
@Runer112 now that's just UNFAIR. its not "you guys". its just me
 
okay, that's true
it's just you :p
 
@LoganM Ah, that makes sense. The conversation I saw was "someone should make a bot to raid PPCG" followed by "I already did", so you can see how that looks a bit fishy. It appears to have been deleted now.
 
@Runer112 thank you
 
@GiantCowFilms who said it's even bots attacking? or even us, 0-frame links blames us then Runer112 starts complining about the bots we admitted to have, so then people think we're using bots to raid. kinda unfair on the bots that people think they are going things wrong *comforts HoiHoi-san*
 
I'm not, Logan
 
1:21 AM
@Geobits That was a joke. Seems to have lost its context.
(admittedly not an especially good one)
 
@LoganM oh that one this morning that got @Yuuki in huff? i was wondering about that
 
lol, I've been quoted out of context today also. Hard to tell sometimes ;)
 
now i understand why he was like that
@Geobits this games got a lot of people that normally don't talk much talking a lot
i think that might have been the whole point
makes for chaotic conversations though
 
@ton.yeung which was probably the point all along
great idea, actually, since it gets people to go into the chatrooms so they can organise strategies
 
@Schism that was literlly my followup post
 
1:23 AM
It was all a plan to make us... SOCIALIZE?
 
@Eric pretty much
 
We've been had.
 
@Eric better hide in yo cave
 
someone should probably stop by the rooms to do damage control, something along the lines of (we aint raiding you)
also, who's world engineer?
is that some new fangled name for god or something?
 
The only raids we do are panty raids, got that everyone? No panties, no raid.
 
1:27 AM
So I should take off my panties? I'm so confused right now.
 
What about stockings? And garterbelts?
 
@Frosteeze so.. my bottom drawer with my gf's clothes?
@Sp3000 my gf doesn't wear those, so i dont got any
 
in The Nineteenth Byte, 13 mins ago, by Rainbolt
Btu we aren't being restarted. That's a victory in and of itself.
 
@Geobits uhh.. y u ware panties?
 
^ just logged into PPCG to confirm and it seems Arqade still has their troll so we shouldn't need to do damage control
 
1:29 AM
@ton.yeung y u not?
 
@Sp3000 pfft, I'm only into pantsu
 
@Geobits i'm not sure how to answer that without getting flagged...
 
@Geobits Nope, we'll just flip up skirts :D
 
Right on cue, Taisho :)
 
1:32 AM
RIP in pieces PPCG
 
hmm.. if i had a daughter i don't think i'd want her to play guitar
starting is painful, till the callouses build up
 
Yea, but only for a couple weeks. After that is a lifetime of joy.
 
@Geobits assuming you play an hour every day
if my kids are gonna be anything like me, its gonna be hard for them to practice anything for more than 15 minutes at a time
 
Well, I wouldn't say an hour a day, a couple hours a week kept mine tough enough to not worry about it.
 
@ton.yeung even with a guitar pick?
 
1:34 AM
@Frosteeze its not the right hand, its the left fretting (pressing down) the strings
assuming you're right handed
 
oh that makes sense
 
@Geobits what kinda strings?
i started on steel strings and my fingers were pretty red the next day, not playable state
piano is so much easier
 
Typical wound steel/nickel on electric and acoustic both. Acoustic is much harder to start with, higher action.
 
@Geobits yea, the shop said my action was pretty high
that might have been the reason why i had a hard time
 
Could be, but if it's an acoustic you need it a bit higher for good sound IMO.
 
1:36 AM
especially since the friggen chords are first fret
@Geobits yea, otherwise its too easy for active playing to make the strings buzz
god barreing was painful...
its so much easier on electric
 
Hmm does anime SE have any sort of policy on using excerpts from manga/screenshots from anime in questions/answers? Like copyright issues and whatnot
 
classical guitars come with their own problem.. my index finger aint long enough
 
lol, I can believe that. I started on electric, so it was much easier making the switch later.
I've never played classical, though.
 
@Sp3000 no, post it, if there's a problem SE lawyers take care of it
@Geobits classical is nice, with a capo
 
Oh, k...
 
1:38 AM
strumming with a classical can put me right to sleep
 
I'd try it out, but it's hard for me to justify another guitar to myself :)
 
@Sp3000 As long as you dont link the whole thing it should be fine. Just pictures/excerpt should be fine
 
!!doge mellow, sleepy, mood music
 
          wow
            very mellow
                      so  sleepy
such  mood music
 
:D
Looks like the JS room bot
 
1:39 AM
@Geobits i got mine for free, a friend decided he was gonna switch to bass of all things, so he gave it to me
@bjb568 that's cuz it is, i jacked it from zirac
 
ah
 
Bass is fun to mess around on, but I never played it much. Nice score, though.
 
@Geobits for some reason the hot chicks play bass
for all the girl bands i've seen, the most attractive one IMO has always been the bassist
 
Are they hot because they play bass or vice versa though?
 
dunno, saw correlation, never looked for causation
 
1:41 AM
:D
 
my gf wouldnt' be too happy if i pried too much after all :D
uhh.. shimoseka is a must watch right now... i just noticed she's wearing pantsu
damn it, the first batch of new anime isn't for a few days, tomorrow's new stuff is battle spirits.. looks very card game ish..
yahari is tomorrow though, so i guess there's something to look forward to on wednesdays
i wonder if RC has posted their schedule yet
 
hmm... looks like tuesdays is only gonna have a k-on with brass
yahari isn't wednesday but thursday.. damn it
 
Look at alllll that manga-original
 
1:57 AM
@ton.yeung Lol, what? You know what to expect, right?
 
2:46 AM
#banana
 
I have a guess as to who is behind the bot raids on Arqade and PPCG. Do I bother to tell them (after they accused us and all) or do I just ignore it?
 
As long as they know and acknowledge that we are not guilty, I don't see why we should stir the pot.
 
That's my thoughts as well. I suppose I can share my methodology though and if anyone wants to look into it further they can, but I'm not making any serious claims and the evidence I have is barely circumstantial.
If you remember on Arqade, there were 5 bots. One voted "Restart" immediately, and as soon as anything else was voted on the other 4 did as well.
 
0
Q: April 2015 bounties for tags: sports anime, 2005-present

senshinThe rules If you create a tag for a sports anime (see the list below) that aired in 2005 or later, I will award you a 50-reputation bounty, provided that: The question is posted during the month of April 2015. The question receives a net score of at least +1 by May 7, 2015, and isn't closed o...

 
2:55 AM
It's unlikely that coordination between 5 different people happened off-site in a short period of time. I've checked chat, and nothing shows up there. So it's very likely that most or all of the accounts are socks. That's especially true since there was no lag.
So someone has at least 4 socks on Arqade. I don't know of many people who would have that many prepared (I do on a couple sites, but probably no one else)
If you look at the recent users, most of them look like plausible socks, and their activity matches when I saw votes on Arqade.
You can extrapolate that to get a guess of who is doing it, albeit a relatively poor one. A mod over there could check much easier than I can though.
 

« first day (840 days earlier)      last day (2206 days later) »