English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

RegDwigнt

4:00 PM

Ima go have me a nice watch of rugby.

Or I dunno, even snooker will do. Way more risk with every single ball.

tchrist

Handegg just hit the super-collider.

RegDwigнt

Awful.

I must take four days off now.

tchrist

Snooker is what young couples do in the dark.

Matt Эллен

Snooker? I barely know her

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skullpatrol

lol

RegDwigнt

4:01 PM

Cheap British humour.

Matt Эллен

more effective than any expensive non-British humour

tchrist

This could easily be Red Baronned:

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Q: Revolutionary is to revolution as reactionary is to _____

I'm trying to think of a noun meaning "the process sought to be undertaken by one who is reactionary."

single-word-requests

I don’t think its answer is very good.

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен that's why every second Monty Python sketch is in German or French.

skullpatrol

Or even been sworn at >8(

Ste

@tchrist - Do you think multiple people could redbaron at once?

Matt Эллен

4:03 PM

@RegDwigнt wouldn't be funny if it weren't Brits doing it

Ste

I mean on the same question..

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен you assume it is funny.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt I assume it's funnier

RegDwigнt

A little-known fact about Monty Python is that their awful stuff is little-known.

Matt Эллен

:D

RegDwigнt

4:05 PM

Also, even their best stuff is only funny if you're a bloke. I mean, chap.

skullpatrol

That's your opinion.

RegDwigнt

Unlike Blackadder, say.

@skullpatrol no, that is my fact.

skullpatrol

A fact is a fact.

As a matter of fact.

Factually speaking.

RegDwigнt

Mar 23 '11 at 13:35, by Robusto

The fact is, when someone begins a sentence with "the fact is," that sentence will probably contain not a single provable fact.

That's why my sentences only end in facts.

skullpatrol

Is that a fact?

Matt Эллен

4:09 PM

did you already mention that Handegg is a place in Switzerland?

RegDwigнt

I will sometimes sprinkle one over the middle for an additional fee.

May 4 '12 at 9:46, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен You know, it's only 34km from Petting to Fucking, but a whopping 656km from Fucking to Wedding.

These three places not enough to cover all... (pun intended, watch my pun, pun ahead, I'm witty)... BASES!

Mitch

I have an opinion.

Basically it's that pie is pretty good.

That's about it.

skullpatrol

Ah...the memories :-)

RegDwigнt

Buy, buy Miss American Pie.

Matt Эллен

I had chicken and mushroom pie yesterday. it was pretty good

Mitch

4:11 PM

I think it's a pretty popular opinion, but is not, in fact, a definitive fact.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt but handegg doesn't have bases. that's baseball.

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен you mean handball.

Mitch

@MattЭллен that sounds like a pizza hat. but with chicken and mushrooms

Handegg is a short game

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt I mean batball

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Apparently it's 199km from Kissing to Petting

RegDwigнt

4:12 PM

@MattЭллен You are the opposite of batball.

Cerberus

Congratulations to Revd Libby Lane on becoming the first woman bishop in the Church. An historic appointment and important day for equality.

Tweeted by David_Cameron on December 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM

Look, Cameron says an historic too.

RegDwigнt

An historic.

Jinx.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt I have no response to that

RegDwigнt

No he doesn't say it. He lets some slave in a cellar mistype it for his twits.

Cerberus

Never mind the linguistic mess that is the rest of his message.

RegDwigнt

4:13 PM

Cf. slave, cellar.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Most likely. Twat.

skullpatrol

How far is it from tits to twat?

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 and it's only 0 km from Fucking to their brewery.

Ste

Can I get 1 vote on this please: english.stackexchange.com/a/215414/20739 then I will delete it once I get the hat.

RegDwigнt

@skullpatrol seventit miles, plus some tits and pieces.

skullpatrol

4:15 PM

Done @Ste

Ste

Thanking you!

skullpatrol

np pal

RegDwigнt

Yeah PAL is np alright. Now, NTSC is more like p.

P != NP.

Matt Эллен

but you can get a converter

RegDwigнt

Sounds like a con job.

skullpatrol

4:19 PM

Everything is a con nowadays.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt That beer isn't brewed in Fucking

skullpatrol

It's fucking brewed?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

no, it isn't Fucking brewed, that's what I'm telling you.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I've had enough Wikipedia for today, so forgive me for not checking.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt That's like the only thing WP says about the beer

it's made in Germany

RegDwigнt

4:21 PM

Yes, just like Coca-Cola. So what.

skullpatrol

Well? They shouldn't be fucking while brewing then.

RegDwigнt

Why not combine the useful with the pleasant? Why not do a needful?

skullpatrol

I would have been banned long time ago in the math room.

Mitch

Why?

RegDwigнt

I've downvoted like 10+ things today. And yesterday. And the day before that. Where the hell is my crab hat?

skullpatrol

4:25 PM

Puritans @Mitch

RegDwigнt

Better than purisins.

Mitch

Put things in quotes.

better than purines

RegDwigнt

You are such an "idiot", I really "hate" you a "lot".

Yup, works!

Mitch

'fuck' that 'shit'

RegDwigнt

Fornicate that feces.

Mitch

4:26 PM

flagged

skullpatrol

21 secs ago, by skullpatrol

I'm too lazy for quotes.

Even LaTeX is a hassle :(

RegDwigнt

How's that an even?

"Hassle" is LaTeX's first name.

LaTeX even hassles the Hoff.

foxyfennec

anyone know what fascinating hat comes from?

RegDwigнt

@Ste or @tchrist might.

I would have known last year.

This year, I'm on hiatus.

Matt Эллен

3 hours ago, by Ste

Blue spock is for upvoting an answer that is accepted and has a score of at least 5.

RegDwigнt

4:30 PM

Wait. You get a hat for someone else's work?

skullpatrol

What's with the Spock theme this year in hats.

Matt Эллен

although I don't think we need to differentiate between blue spock and gold spock. gold spock is obviously tuvok

RegDwigнt

Theme? It's just two hats I thought.

But I've not been paying attention.

Matt Эллен

three star trek hats in total: red shirt, spock and tuvok

RegDwigнt

Oh right. Red shirt.

Well, if they have blue and gold, they better have red as well, no?

skullpatrol

4:32 PM

Star Trek sucks.

RegDwigнt

I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

skullpatrol

Warp engines defy relativity.

foxyfennec

there's only one episode of star trek

RegDwigнt

@skullpatrol how else you gonna sci-fi?

For that matter, how else we gonna survive in 20000 years?

foxyfennec

something happens, their shields go down because they lose power or something, they get power back.. episode is over

lmao

RegDwigнt

4:33 PM

Nah. Sometimes there's the crappiest fight in TV history.

foxyfennec

can't believe my answer about buddies doesn't have 1000 upvotes

can you even get 1000 upvotes?

Matt Эллен

you mean would the system allow it?

of course

RegDwigнt

So anyway, back to my original question: do I really get a Spock hat just for casting an upvote on someone else's shit?

Mitch

@skullpatrol It's warping the space-time continuum. Obviously.

foxyfennec

try it out!

Matt Эллен

4:35 PM

@RegDwigнt yes

RegDwigнt

What the actual what.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt Tuvok is the same way, only the question has to be really popular already.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt No. You went to the trouble of clicking. Once.

What the hel is the Tuvok hat?

Matt Эллен

@Mitch fascinating, ma'am

Mitch

Oh

The vulcan from the far south.

Ste

4:38 PM

@RegDwigнt, @MattЭллен - I should get a eureka for working that out for you!

Matt Эллен

@Mitch perhaps so

Mitch

@Ste Eureka!

Was that what you wanted?

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен define "really popular". 10k views or what?

Ste

@Mitch Exactly!

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt yes. 10k views and score of 40

vote it up and you get a hat

RegDwigнt

4:43 PM

@MattЭллен Yeah right. And they expect me to not have noticed and voted on one of those, how?

Matt Эллен

2 hours ago, by Hugo

Fascinating, Ma'am is earned by upvoting a question satisfying certain requirements (note, accepted answer is not a prerequisite):

score of at least 25
and 10K views

oh, score of at least 25

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен wait, a question?

I just upvoted someone's accepted answer.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt yes

RegDwigнt

Oh crap.

But I must go now anyway.

CU around.

Matt Эллен

Hat u l8r

Jasper Loy

4:50 PM

I just woke up from my nap.

Matt Эллен

welcome back

skullpatrol

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foxyfennec

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"A word for “intimate friends” without any kind of romance?" :D

nneonneo

omg so much hat collusion

Jasper Loy

@nneonneo It has been happening for years.

nneonneo

5:05 PM

Can I get in on it? :D

Jasper Loy

You're better off working on your PhD.

nneonneo

Aww.

Ste

RIght, gang. Off for dinner in Versailles. Yeah, look at me.......

Jasper Loy

It's 14 days to the new year here.

Mitch

@Ste Ooh la la. And I mean that to sting.

Which reminds me. There should be a midwinter holiday. You have a hundred holidays in Nov/Dec, but then nothing at all happens for months after. Something in say mid/late Feb. Where lots of eating happens, and people come together to damn the cold long hard winter which hasn't let up and may not let up until April.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:21 PM

@Mitch We have one in Ontario, the third monday in Feb - "Family Day"

But we don't have one in June, which is when it'd be really nice to have

tchrist

@Ste Don’t see why not.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You don't need one in June because June itself is a celebration.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Do you get a day off?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch yes

@Mitch A celebration that isn't a stat holiday

Mitch

Nice. Is it all Canada or just Ontario?

Next question -very- important...life plans are in the balance. Are there any provinces in Canada that are livable by sane human beings?

Jasper Loy

5:49 PM

@Mitch Why would they be not livable?

tchrist

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A: The word to know when you don’t know how to feel?

The perfect word for this comes from today’s slang. In the current vernacular, you would say that he felt meh. It’s recent slang that per Urban Dictionary means Indifference; to be used when one simply does not care. For example, from an article on “Five Ways Not to Feel Meh” on Karousing...

Hat-vote, please :) I still need one more upvote on the question and two more upvotes on my answer to it to get Red Baron:

It’s not for rep: I’m capped.

This one, though, I feel meh about:

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A: Does the word 'incrementation' exist?

Although the word incrementation has been seen in print, it occurs only incredibly rarely according to this Google N-gram: To control for verb use instead of noun use, I’ve put an in front of the singular noun and of after the plural one. As you see, there is a frequency difference of 3 to 4 ...

This doesn’t seem like a bad answer to me:

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A: Etymology of orchard

No, you are almost certainly mistaken about any overt borrowing from German Obstgarten to produce English orchard. You are struggling too hard to look for an added -r-, when in fact, it was already present in Latin (h)ort-(us) right from the get-go. There were also cognate Gothic words star...

Mitch

@JasperLoy so so cold. Canadians stand in front of a fridge to warm up.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Stat holidays are a per-province thing. e.g. Quebec has one in June.

@Mitch We got less snow so far than, say, Buffalo

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't want to imply any disparagement of Buffalonians... but they're stupid too.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Also the weather is a small price to pay for not having Republicans in congress.

Mitch

6:02 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hm...probably celebrating the appearance of the sun the one day that year.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch No, it's celebrating the one time they beat the English, or something like that.

Jasper Loy

The weather is not a factor to me at all, considering the shithole I am in now.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Touche. But you got your own bag of problems there.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch okay so it's a formerly religious holiday, Saint-Jean-Baptiste Day. But now it's vaguely nationalistic.

Jasper Loy

By the way, if people ask, please say I live in Antarctica. My location will be kept a secret from now...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:04 PM

@JasperLoy because the transcript doesn't exist?

Jasper Loy

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, at least we can make it not too obvious, lol.

Mitch

@JasperLoy You don't live there?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy Just set your location in your profile to a real country, or plausible place, and nobody won't believe you.

Jasper Loy

Yeah, like North Korea, lol.

Mitch

What part of Antarctica do you live in? The big city? rural? suburban? The mountains? The hill country?

skullpatrol

6:07 PM

So did you watch it @JasperLoy?

Jasper Loy

@skullpatrol I will watch it later, thanks.

skullpatrol

I believe in it strongly.

Jasper Loy

Anyone going away for vacation soon?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JasperLoy March! can't wait

Jasper Loy

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Where are you going?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:09 PM

Aruba

Jasper Loy

In the Caribbean. Very exotic.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It's barely exotic at all, which is why I like it.

Mitch

I live in Aruba

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

You can drink the water.

Mitch

In the mountains

I'm glad you're visiting.

Jasper Loy

6:11 PM

Here you can drink the tap water too.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

We should go for drinks

Mitch

I won't be here when you're coming.

Whenever that is.

But make sure you try the chocolate

@JasperLoy See, that's all you have to do.

I've thoroughly convinced everyone that I've heard of Aruba.

skullpatrol

convince = con

As in con-artist

Adam Davis

All you're pizza hats are belong too us!

the entire ELU chatroom collectively rolls its eyes as another unknown makes the same old joke as their first chat message as everyone before them

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:29 PM

No, we're rolling our eyes at your your/you're error ;)

skullpatrol

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tchrist

6:57 PM

Just need one more upvote on this question for a hat:

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A: The word to know when you don’t know how to feel?

The perfect word for this comes from today’s slang. In the current vernacular, you would say that he felt meh. It’s recent slang that per Urban Dictionary means Indifference; to be used when one simply does not care. For example, from an article on “Five Ways Not to Feel Meh” on Karousing...

This one still needs two for a hat though:

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A: Does English really have triphthongs?

EDIT: I waited ten hours for other answers to appear, then presented my own findings. I do not pretend that mine is the only possible answer, and would like to hear what others have to say in their own answers. The English word playa is pronounced /ˈplaɪ.ə/ in English with two syllables, with ...

I have spare votes if anybody needs ’em.

Mr.Mindor

7:19 PM

Is the preference to include the meat behind a link not followed on ELU as it is on Other stack exchange sites?

Jasper Loy

@Mr.Mindor What do you mean by other sites? Is there a question somewhere that discusses the norm?

Mr.Mindor

in general on other stackexchanges, if you include a link in an answer it is expected that you at lease summarize what you linked to. (to mitigate net rot)

Mitch

@tchrist done and half way done

@Mr.Mindor always include the text behind the link (for link rot) and the link and description itself (for mitigating plagiarism)

Mr.Mindor

earlier I edited an answer to include a definition, it was accepted, then a minute later another edited the same answer to just link to the online dictionary.

@Mitch Thanks. That's what I thought. Just wanted to double check

Mitch

link to answer you're talking about?

Mr.Mindor

7:34 PM

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A: A word for "intimate friends" without any kind of romance?

Platonic is the usual choice to describe this. E.g. "They look intimate but they're merely platonic friends."

Mitch

yeah, just add back in the text (and keep the link)

Mr.Mindor

will do so. Thanks again.

Matt Эллен

8:08 PM

woo! sportsmanship badge and werewolf hunter hat!

tchrist

@Mitch tanks

George Pompidou

8:23 PM

why are so many people in ELU programmers

skullpatrol

:-)

George Pompidou

does anyone have an answer that makes a shred of sense?

skullpatrol

Why don't you go to the ocean and ask the fish why they are in the water? How many English teachers spend their time on the internet?

George Pompidou

what are you talking about? why on earth would I do that?

and I do not know how many English teachers spend their time on the internet. probably a good amount given that most people have internet these days.

skullpatrol

Look at the environment.

clinch

8:32 PM

yo, guys, how do americans pronounce "Schadenfreude"?

IPA or any recordings would be appreciated ^_^

George Pompidou

I can make a recording for you.

clinch

that'd be great! :D

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou because SE is the spawn of SO

@clinch you can look up the IPA in a dictionary

George Pompidou

now there's a reasonable answer. so did most of the initial wave of people on ELU find out about it/come here from SO?

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou I assume so. I don't know for sure. I think most SE sites are populated by programmers

or at least, mostly programmer

I found out about it while at SO

clinch

8:35 PM

ah, i'm dumb. I just looked it up on wiktionary and there's IPA and a recording, lol

Matt Эллен

:D yay!

clinch

@MattЭллен thanks!

Matt Эллен

no probs

George Pompidou

gets sad and puts away his recording equipment

sighs

clinch

rofl, aww

feel free to record it, i'll listen to it :3

Matt Эллен

8:37 PM

@GeorgePompidou I think there's a website you can add a recording of your pronunciation of words to...

forvo.com

clinch

yeah

George Pompidou

is the German stackexchange decent for people who are just learning German?

clinch

that's where i checked and english doesn't have a pronunciation for that word

@GeorgePompidou yup

George Pompidou

or is it like the English one where you get shot in the face if you don't have tchrist's advanced vocabulary

Matt Эллен

I don't go there

George Pompidou

8:38 PM

I'll have to take a look at it and become active ^.^

clinch

not too familiar with the english SE, i just signed up

Robusto

You can fall way short of @tchrist and still have an extremely highfalutin' vocabulary.

George Pompidou

tchrist knows a word for everything about which nobody cares.

Robusto

Well, I wouldn't put it like that.

skullpatrol

Neither would I.

George Pompidou

8:40 PM

in a pirate voice and nor would I

har har har har

we should consider Pirate English too in addition to Am and Br

they talk completely differently.

actually, pirate alert. not sure where you got troll. I even wrote the words "in a pirate voice"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

pirate-english

clinch

dat tag

Robusto

pirated-english

George Pompidou

NO WAY!

Robusto

Way.

George Pompidou

8:44 PM

you both just made my day!

skullpatrol

YES WAY

George Pompidou

nay, my winter!

clicks around pirate questions happily

weeeeeeee!

skullpatrol

:-)

George Pompidou

okay…

why do you keep redacting what you say?

Cerberus

sighs

skullpatrol

8:54 PM

Sorry cerb

Cerberus

Don't worry.

skullpatrol

When someone questions my backbone I take it as a challenge

Matt Эллен

Yes, that one too

skullpatrol

Ok, I'm sorry. @MattЭллен

George Pompidou

in any case, I just wanted to bring to everyone's attention that I have actually stopped being mean. I'm off to town to do my tasks for today; have a nice afternoon.

Matt Эллен

9:01 PM

Thanks for apologising

but also, you upset George

@GeorgePompidou See you George.

But if tchrist complains, don't say I didn't warn you.

skullpatrol

The Chinese remark at the end set me off

Matt Эллен

Chinese?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Yes, I was offended by that too

Matt Эллен

I can't see the thing you mean

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

link

Matt Эллен

9:12 PM

oh

I've deleted that

@GeorgePompidou racist or ableist language is not cool

skullpatrol

Thanks @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 for speaking up :-)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@skullpatrol same to you

skullpatrol

He is on my ignore list.
The End

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Sadly that is only useful if everyone ignores him all the time

skullpatrol

People will eventually

I'm not gonna let him spoil my Christmas :-)

clinch

9:32 PM

german is really ableist

and any attempts to fix that ends up in unreadable german :3

because Reasons(R)

George Pompidou

this is a Kafka novel. I'm living in a Kafka novel.

everyone except me is completely blind to others being violent toward me.

@Matt it is true that if one is Chinese, one is less likely to be able to pronounce "playa". this is a fact and I was not intending to be racist. now this guy is threatening to hunt me down and I am scared.

this is insane! I need answers.

Matt Эллен

you need to understand that generalising based on someone's nationality is not acceptable. You need to understand that the very word "retard" in English is not an acceptable word in this chatroom

@skullpatrol please don't threaten people

@GeorgePompidou I think you can feel safe that skull patrol did not mean physically

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@GeorgePompidou There's nothing inherently difficult about playa for Chinese speakers, excepting maybe the L

George Pompidou

I didn't say they can't pronounce it. but rather that they probably wouldn't know how without prior experience with English. this is just true.

I also think I'm being picked on right now.

but you know what? hey. now I know what's allowed and what's not allowed. I will no longer say anything about people of a particular country, regardless how true.

tchrist

9:48 PM

Bullets are not new as a typographic term.

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A: What is the origin of the phrase "bullet points"?

The bullet is not new, nor is its name. It has been used by typographers long before the general public caught hold of it. You asked about the origin of the bullet for this purpose. It turns out that the bullet has been used since time immemorial: merely look at Trajan’s Column or Gutenberg’s B...

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou please don't threaten people

George Pompidou

I think you are taking sides Matt.

tchrist

And apparently I need to enlist pole-dancers to actually upvote my thong.

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou I have already asked the same of skull patrol

George Pompidou

yes, after I brought it to your attention. anything to call me out on what I say is completely unprompted.

tchrist

9:50 PM

@MattЭллен Consider this a complaint.

Wait, I know what I need.

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou that's not true.

tchrist

I need a PICTURE of a pole-dancer wearing a triple-thong!

skullpatrol

:D

Image search!

tchrist

Voilà.

George Pompidou

look. can I expect people to stop picking on me and threatening me if I stop saying purposely hateful things?

I assumed that to be true before but it was proven false.

tchrist

9:53 PM

@skullpatrol Damn, you are smart!

George Pompidou

it's all I want.

skullpatrol

Thanks pal.

tchrist

Mental health 101.

I knew you’d love ’em.

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou it has not been proven false. you said something hateful, i.e. linking Chinese people to the word retard.

that is hateful.

George Pompidou

I did no such thing!

there was absolutely no logical link. this is false.

Matt Эллен

9:54 PM

I'm not going to repost what you said

George Pompidou

I know what I said.

and if you do, you will know I made no implication that Chinese people are as a people associated with retardation.

skullpatrol

@tchrist there is a song on youtube called "The thong song"

George Pompidou

that's not just on YouTube. it's a popular 90s song by Sisqo

tchrist

I need but one more upvote for a hat on any 2 of these 3: here, here, or here. In return, I’ll provide you with either a quid-pro-quo or a stunning thong pic.

Your choice. :)

skullpatrol

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tchrist

9:56 PM

Thank you.

George Pompidou

tchrist for a pic of you in your thong, I'll give you every upvote I have for four years. I'll even sign a contract.

tchrist

Easily done.

Ok, you asked for it, Toyota:

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