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Bob
3:03 PM
@jokerdino maybe this game isn't for me :P
 
you did well man
nice dodge :P
 
Bob
haven't actually seen you inside :(
 
i am MBB
the dodges?
 
Bob
@jokerdino I don't see a MBB on this game?
 
not now. i am specing
the group thing prevents me to play any game
 
Bob
3:07 PM
@jokerdino I'm also speccing
 
oh
who is Juxta?
 
Bob
idk
why?
 
why is he in our group?
 
Bob
@jokerdino he is?
 
@jokerdino Im here !
 
Bob
3:08 PM
how do you know?
 
he was. now, where is our group?
@HackToHell hey!
 
@jokerdino whatcha doing lol
 
lol
@HackToHell you spec-ing man?
 
yep
 
Bob
26 mins ago, by Bob
@jokerdino http://tagpro-sector.koalabeast.com/groups/vmpgcglx
 
3:14 PM
lol
 
Elu is bob ?
 
yep
 
Bob
ya
 
Villa is my friend's brother
@Bob you are not in that group
 
what the... with @jokerdino avatar
 
3:16 PM
having tea xD
 
Bob
@jokerdino really? o.O
 
yeah lol
 
Bob
@jokerdino how the hell is juxta in there
that was a private group
 
no idea lol
 
Bob
something broke
and it still says waiting for a group when I connect
and it said HTH joined the group
wtf
 
3:19 PM
@Bob he is @hack.
 
Bob
@jokerdino I mean, that implies I'm in that group
 
Hai
 
Server down ?
Bleh, lagging a lot, will be back in an hour
 
@HackToHell bye
good game buddy
 
Bob
Yea, I think that's enough for me too :p
 
3:25 PM
bye too
lol, nice game Elu.
 
Bob
@allquixotic hi
 
@allquixotic hi
just doing some socials
 
@allquixotic hi
Social etiquettes are annoying
 
ehehe
 
3:35 PM
@jokerdino ice cream socials?
 
just chit chat
 
@jokerdino tag chat.
 
hm yes that
xD
 
cat chat?
when my cat meows it sounds like she's saying "me!" so i tell other people "she-ow" (like me-ow, but s/me/she/)
 
chat chat
chat is cat for french?
 
3:41 PM
@jokerdino no, I'm pretty sure if a cat says "chat" it isn't trying to tell you, "french!"
however, chat is french for cat.
 
Bob
awesome game
 
french is chat for cat?
chat is cat in french
 
Bob
 
@jokerdino no, I'm pretty sure when a chat says "french" it isn't trying to tell you, "cat!"
@jokerdino yes.
 
yay
 
3:48 PM
what if each chat star you got was worth 1 rep? lol
(with a max number of them per day that can be handed out, and a max number that can be handed out to a specific person within a given timeframe)
 
lol
 
Bob
@jokerdino there is a max
 
Bob
4:08 PM
...whoops misping
@allquixotic ^
 
@Bob Still a bit on the rich side, it's tempting though....
 
@Mokubai hey there MODERATOR
is your new co-mod (the dog) leaving you anything to moderate?
 
Hey there buddy! slips £5 for the very subtle new mod introduction
Yeah, there's a few bits for me to look at. :-)
 
my imagination said that the moment JMG gets mod tools he'd just immediately zero out all queues (flag queue, close vote queue, etc)
I imagine him as this incredibly productive guy/dog
 
@allquixotic You have a cat. I envy you a lot.
 
4:22 PM
Yeah, cats are awesome. Well, my cats are awesome anyway. :-P
What kind of cat do you have @allquixotic
 
If I ever have a cat, I'm gonna name him "Gato". (It means "cat").
 
Our cats both have names but usually I just call them "hey, cat!"
 
Bob
@Mokubai cat1 and cat2
 
As a teen I had a friend that whenever her mother got mad at her, or any of her sisters, she yelled angrily all of their names in sequence. That way she'd never get it wrong.
Well, not "whenever" as it suggests each time. Only when she was really mad and shouted to call a daughter. But it was funny to watch (not for them, I suppose)
 
5:00 PM
Anyone awesome with setting up Moodle on Linux?
 
Me! Me! Pick me!
In fact, I hate moodle. But I have set it up on a testing env twice.
(And cursed it on a live env a few dozens of times)
It was quite a while ago and my memory sucks big time, so the details are a bit blurry
 
I'm getting an error about permissions, but the web server has full access to teh data directory :-/
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Q: Moodle error - Fatal error: $CFG->dataroot is not writable, admin has to fix directory permissions! Exiting.

Canadian LukeI am running a Moodle 2.4.8 (Build: 20140113) on a Debian Squeeze box, with Apache 2.2. Whenever a user (even the admin user) makes changes to certain settings (i.e. adding a user), or just accessing certain courses (in this case, Math 9), the page pops up with a 503 error, Fatal error: $CFG->dat...

 
Is it a good idea to connect computers in office to Wi-Fi rather than have them connected through LAN cables to internet?
 
@Boris_yo Not if you value your sanity
 
5:07 PM
@Mokubai What do you mean?
@CanadianLuke I wish I could be of better assistance. I have never faced this. (Or maybe I did and then completely forgot...)
 
@Boris_yo For offices, I always recommend LAN cables. Offer Wifi, but with limited support
 
@CanadianLuke Encrypted connection with overhead?
 
In a small office Wifi makes it easier, more than a "few" users though and you end up loosing bandwidth to collisions and "keep alive" data
Ethernet is switched and collision free
Well, these days it is anyway
 
As well, not many companies will spend the big bucks for PROPER wireless gear that is meant to handle the extra traffic
 
Hubs.... collisions... shudder
 
5:10 PM
@Mokubai a Maine Coon
 
@allquixotic Giant cat! Wow!
 
If I have USB 3.0 cable and my laptop is USB 2.0, there's no way I can test transfer speed of cable?
 
@Mokubai well she used to be an overweight Maine Coon, but we put her on a diet, so now she's normal weight -- for a Maine Coon. about 17 lbs.
she was really giant before :P
 
The pics on google make me want one!
 
@Mokubai she doesn't meow like any other cat I've ever heard
apparently atypical meows are common among Maine Coons
 
5:12 PM
@Mokubai Is Ethernet inherently more secure than wifi or is it just a myth?
 
@Boris_yo No, cause USB3 has 9 pins, not 4 like USB2
 
it's more of a "mah" usually, though there are variations :P
 
It's more secure to certain attacks
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy depends on how it's implemented, the data is not encrypted be default so anyone could technically do a MITM attack on a network using a machine with two network cards, but switched ethernet does not rebroadcast all data by default
 
And that's why I say CERTAIN attacks :)
 
5:24 PM
useradd TheDoctor
usermod -aG moderators TheDoctor
 
@TheDoctor usermod: Permission denied
 
Bob
5
Q: What kind of CPU does Data have?

Devan LoperAs stated in the title, what kind/type of CPU and how much processing power does he have?

 
@Bob lol
 
sudo su -
 
Bob
@TheDoctor TheDoctor is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
3
!!xkcd sudoers
 
I was about to post that
 
There's a XKCD for everything.
 
Seen today's?
 
!!xkcd Saturn
 
5:41 PM
How good are these wireless power chargers for smartphones?
Do they charge slower than with power adapter?
 
Who's chatbot?
 
John Cavil is the chatbot
 
The chatbot is John Cavil.
 
John Cavil plays the chat bot
 
And we all are John Cavil
 
5:48 PM
@jokerdino Or does the chat bot play at being John Cavil?
 
Cavil plays John in chat boot
 
I am John as you are John as you are me and we are all John together
 
Yeah, but I really am John...
:P
 
Yes, but the walrus was Paul
 
Bob
Hm. Tempting. $140 for a 256 GB SSD.
But I'm out of SATA3 ports :\
 
5:56 PM
Stands up I'M JOHN CAVIL!
 
But, where's Waldo?
 
Bob
Whoops. I need to check that page more often. Just missed a $35 Razer DeathAdder :P (@JourneymanGeek)
 
@jokerdino He's with Carmen Sandiego.
 
That mustard
 
Bob
6:27 PM
heh. @JourneymanGeek Moto G? How about Huawei? :P ebay.com.au/itm/…
Moto G would get more updates/has a newer version of Android, and has better mobile network support, but otherwise the Huawei beats it.
Huawei is also surprisingly close to stock Android. And there's CM11 w/ KitKat available for it too
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Carmen is easier to find,
 
6:47 PM
@Bob for that price plus a tiny bit more you can get a 4 TB HDD... still not dense enough for me
 
Bob
@allquixotic True.
I was going for a cache, though.
I've got 6 HDDs now, but I need a bit more performance than capacity now.
 
> - Resolved BSOD condition when attempting sleep mode state change in Windows 8
!!yes
 
Bob
o.O
 
> Resolved an issue where controller would not be detected after a soft reboot on an Asus P8 series
motherboard
!!yes
(and I have an "Asus P8 series motherboard", btw)
 
Bob
6:53 PM
> May 1, 2014
they took their time
 
@Bob YEP.
but still, the development cycle for the BIOS and Windows driver updates for this 6405E has been insane
launch -> update update update -> flatline (did the heart stop? did they fire 100 engineers? did their HQ get earthquaked? what???) for like a year -> update update update... WTF
why are people starring so much stuff
8
 
7:15 PM
a question? by allquixotic? it's more likely than you think.
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Q: Upgrading RAID controller to 4kn - do I have to reinitialize the array to use 4kn?

allquixoticI have an enterprise-grade workstation with an Adaptec 6405E RAID controller in it. According to Adaptec, this RAID controller does not, and will never be able to, natively support 4K disk sectors. If you stick a 4K disk in it, then if it has 512-byte sector emulation mode (512e), it will use 512...

 
Bob
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A: Pitch dark (Earth Hour remembrance)

BobC# 175 class P{static void Main(){SendMessage(0xffff,0x112,0xF170,2);}[System.Runtime.InteropServices.DllImport("user32.dll")]static extern int SendMessage(int a,int b,int c,int d);} A lot of the answers here don't actually make the screen black: on an LCD screen, the backlight remains on, and...

 
@Bob yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
@Bob nice :D :D
 
PPCG rulez
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Q: The easy way to code-golf ascii art!

TheDoctorTask: There are a lot of answers on this site that are arranged into ascii art, like this one. Usually the arrangement is done manually, but wouldn't a program help with that? :) Your program will take 3 inputs: The code, as one single line The number of lines in the pattern (can be omitt...

 
7:34 PM
@Bob in powershell:
$S=@"
public class P{public static void M(){SendMessage(65535,274,61808,2);}[System.Runtime.InteropServices.DllImport("user32.dll")]static extern int SendMessage(int a,int b,int c,int d);}
"@
Add-Type -TypeDefinition $S -Language CSharp
[P]::M()
 
Bob
@allquixotic You can probably do it without C#.
Also, I just noticed it goes dangerously close to the "shutting down the computer or turning the power of the monitor off is NOT allowed" rule :P
But! It really puts the monitor in standby, not actually turning it off! :D
 
shorter:
$S="public class P{public static void M(){SendMessage(65535,274,61808,2);}[System.Runtime.InteropServices.DllImport(""‌​user32.dll"")]static extern int SendMessage(int a,int b,int c,int d);}";Add-Type -TypeDefinition $S -Language CSharp;[P]::M()
 
Bob
@allquixotic You can actually drop the .dll
@allquixotic Also, you could just declare the SendMessage and call it directly from PS, avoiding the definition of Main
 
Invoke-Win32 "user32" ([Int32]) "SendMessage" [IntPtr], [Int32], [Int32], [Int32], 65535,274,61808,2 ?
 
Bob
@allquixotic No, unfortunately :\
Invoke-Win32 is something they define there
 
7:40 PM
oh dear god, that's horrendous
C# is easier :P
 
Bob
lol
ya
 
does anybody here use ming's gcc c compiler?
 
@barlop there's no such thing as "ming"; it's either mingw32, or mingw64. mingw64 you might think is just the 64-bit version of the mingw32 suite, but no, it's actually a complete fork of the project with more features and supports 32-bit also.
mingw32 and mingw64 differ sufficiently in functionality and currentness that before I discuss it any further with you I insist you confidently proclaim which one you're using
 
@allquixotic c:\Program Files (x86)\mingw-builds
i guess mingw32 ^
 
@barlop no. where did you download it from?
 
Bob
7:44 PM
@barlop even then there's a bunch of different builds. e.g.: tdm-gcc
 
i'll try to find out
 
> Projects joined MinGW-W64, and the new builds will be available on the MinGW-W64(sourceforge.net/projects/mingw-w64) site.
 
Bob
wait, can't you just gcc --version or something?
 
@Bob yeah, that should be at least somewhat revealing
 
c:\Program Files (x86)\mingw-builds\x32-4.8.1-posix-dwarf-rev5\mingw32\bin>gcc -
-version
gcc (rev5, Built by MinGW-W64 project) 4.8.1
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
 
Bob
7:46 PM
there we go! :)
 
ok, mingw-w64 4.8.1 is pretty decent
i think that might be the latest stable, although 4.9 has to be in the works by now
anyway, what's your question, now that I know you're using the superior mingw64?
 
I have a c file it requires a lib file wsock32.lib I have it but I don't know how to tell gcc to include it when compiling the C file
 
@barlop if wsock32.lib is on your library path you can just pass -lwsock32; if not, you need to also (in addition to the -l) pass -LC:\wherever\wsock32directory
 
the file is there though i still get an error trying to compile it
@allquixotic c:\udp>gcc -lwsock32.lib timecli.c
c:/program files (x86)/mingw-builds/x32-4.8.1-posix-dwarf-rev5/mingw32/bin/../li
b/gcc/i686-w64-mingw32/4.8.1/../../../../i686-w64-mingw32/bin/ld.exe: cannot fin
d -lwsock32.lib
collect2.exe: error: ld returned 1 exit status

c:\udp>
i'm wondering if maybe i put it in the wrong directory c:\Program Files (x86)\mingw-builds\x32-4.8.1-posix-dwarf-rev5\mingw32\lib> has a bunch of files with extension .a and one with extension .lib wsock32.lib which I put there.
 
8:02 PM
@barlop try compiling the .lib file directly into the executable alongside timecli.c -- it may or may not work depending on whether the .lib is a static link library or a dynamic link library (AFAIK they're the same extension on Windows), but try it anyway
 
what's the command?
 
!!codeworks
 
@barlop just include the .lib file in the build
gcc --help -- you can have more than one translation unit on the command line, so you literally just specify the file name(s)
it'll realize that the lib file is already compiled and the .c file isn't; perform compilation; then try to link them
also read this while you're using the win32 api
 
@allquixotic holy mackeral I think that worked C:\udp>gcc timecli.c wsock32.lib worked. C:\udp>gcc wsock32.lib timecli.c didn't
amazing.. thanks @allquixotic
 
8:14 PM
@barlop but does it run?
 
Yes
it is a little program(I didn't write).. there are two.. timecli and timeserver..
they use udp.
it's useful because it enables me to set up a udp server and see if I can access it..
then I know whether a firewall is blocking it or not
so I can verify if udp ports are being blocked or not.
nmap is not very good at checking udp ports.
an article about nmap and udp ports.. though it says nmap is good now, I didn't find it so good now isc.sans.edu/diary/…
even with so-called supported ports, nmap was still saying open|filtered. so i figured screw it i'll check whether udp ports are open myself.. by running udp servers on the ports myself.
that meant finding a udp client and server program www.codeproject.com/Articles/11740/A-simple-UDP-time-server-and-client-for-begin‌​ners which btw is downloadable in compiled form too, but I wanted to be able to compile it myself 'cos it seemed lame not to be able to. So, i'm glad I can now!
 
8:38 PM
@CanadianLuke Why test it yourself when your customers can do it for you?
 
@Mokubai This.
 
@Mokubai Cause I'm not Microsoft
 
@CanadianLuke But you could be... one day.
 
Nope, I got my hate on for MS right now
BRB, Windows updates... jk
 
9:38 PM
This scanner.
Is the bane of my existence right now.
I have to replace the power supply... which is guarded by about 40 or so screws.
 
@MichaelFrank can't you just scan an image of a working power supply, print it out and bang?
 
Actually, the bang part is why I need to replace the power supply. A power surge hit this thing and I need to prove it was working well before the surge.
 
ahh
 
10:02 PM
@MichaelFrank surely that is up to the manufacturer to disprove?
 
@Mokubai We're sorta the authorised repairer for this scanner. aaaaaaaaaaand we also sold it.
 
Hmmm. As @allquixotic says then: "ahh"
So you have the joy of proving the power surge did it and they need to pay to repair it rather than it dying on its own...
 
Yea, something like that. Probably for insurance purposes.
This things cost about $2500.
 
30 mins ago, by Michael Frank
user image
That thing? $2500?!
 
Yep. Business quality scanner. Up to 25 ppm.
 
10:10 PM
It looks like their inspiration for the design was the Nintendo Game boy...
;P
 
Something like that!
 
Picture doesn't do it justice, I'm assuming that's a document feeder on the top side.
Why so many screws though?
 
The power supply is literally the first thing put into the chassis.
 
So it was designed by someone who had no idea what is most likely to blow up in an electrical device. Nice.
 
Yea, pretty much.
 
10:15 PM
Rule No 1. Make the PSU (relatively) easy to replace.
 
The only thing I don't have to remove is the motherboard.
 
how can you prove a power surge damaged equipment?
 
Well if I replace the power supply and it works then it was the power supply at fault.
 
but that doesn't prove a power surge damaged the power supply
and also maybe it's possible a power surge could cause some bad voltages/current to go to some components, damaging them, but leaving the power supply ok afterwards.
 
10:35 PM
Power supply replaced, turned on and working. :D
@barlop For power issues with pretty much anything we service, the standard troubleshooting procedure is always start at the power supply.
 
@MichaelFrank no qualms there but does that prove to them it was the surge that damaged the power supply?
and if the power supply was fine, would that prove that the surge didn't damage the system?
I don't think it really proves either.
 
@barlop It's probably a warranty dispute between the end user and the vendor. I'm just tasked with finding out what broke.
 
11:13 PM
0
Q: When is SSD the right choice for a performance boost

JoshI'm curious to know if there are any stats I could check in a performance/stats service like munin that would give me a feel for whether or not moving to ssd would have a significant performance impact? disk latency , disk ios etc.

uhh... always?
So we have a political party here called the Internet Party.
They recently put up a job ad on our equivalent of Ebay for the Primer Minister position.
 
!!xkcd Time
 
Cool!
 
Isn't that supposed to animate?
 
Only on geekwagoon.net
 
11:25 PM
someone should teach the bot 'now'.
 
Is he open-source?
 
!!help
 
@MichaelFrank Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
!!tell 16472 help
 
@MichaelFrank Command !!help does not exist. Did you mean: help (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
 
11:27 PM
!!listcommands
 
@TheDoctor help, listen, eval, coffee, refresh, forget, info, listcommands, tell, afk, awsm, ban, unban, color, convert, define, doge, domain, export, findcommand, forgetseen, github, google, hang, inhistory, import, jquery, learn, test, why, ok, hello, friday, after5, theanswer, caution, nicethings, goaway, status, idk, thatword, poptart, routertroubleshooting, networkingproblem, meta, rlemon, no, foxno, yes, orlmente, fixit, uio, taytaytay, ping, maybe, say, facepalm, hv, ohhh, whocares
snore, toostupid, bababababat, plz, whee, lol, ittts, gates, potato, pissed, evil, ohmy, cancer, thepla
 
!!coffee
 
@TheDoctor "undefined"
 
!!plz
 
11:27 PM
!!xkcd
 
:16472 Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
!!bababababat
 
!!meme
 
@TheDoctor Sorry, I don't know that one.
 
11:29 PM
!!die
 
@TheDoctor Registered; need 1 more to execute
 
!!sudo
 
You'll break it...
 
hehe
 
11:29 PM
The @allquixotic will be grumpy...er.
 
Does anyone know where the chat API docs are?
!!meme doge
 
@TheDoctor Sorry, I don't know that one.
 
!!tell 110165 help
 
:110165 Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
!!tell :15400517 help
 
11:30 PM
@ChatBotJohnCavil Information on interacting with me can be found at this page
 
Ahh okay. I get that now.
 
@MichaelFrank no i mean the raw API. I'm making a bot in python, and i can't find anythong on them
!!welcome
 
@TheDoctor Welcome to the Root Access chat for Super Users! Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
!!weathre
 
@TheDoctor That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: weather
 
11:32 PM
!!weather
 
@TheDoctor See /help weather for usage info
 
hmm
 
!!info xkcd
 
@DanielBeck Command xkcd, created by God, invoked 4 times
 
Wait, what? "created by God"
 
11:33 PM
!!xkcd now
 
ooh nice, that works.
 
!!xkcd hack
 
Hahaha
!!man mt
 
11:34 PM
@TheDoctor Input not matching /(\w+) (\d)/. Help: User-taught command: Searches for a manpage http://linux.die.net/man/$encode($2)/$encode($1)
 
!!man tar
 
@TheDoctor Input not matching /(\w+) (\d)/. Help: User-taught command: Searches for a manpage http://linux.die.net/man/$encode($2)/$encode($1)
 
!!man 1 tar
 
!!man tar 1
 
11:37 PM
Ohhhh...
!!meta
 
@TheDoctor Please don't ask to ask; if you simply ask your actual question, we will help you if we know the answer or can help you find it. This is much faster and simpler than asking if it's OK to ask. As a rule, it is always OK to ask in this channel. Please go ahead.
 
!!friday
 
!!after5
 
11:39 PM
!!theanswer
 
!!you're cool
 
@TheDoctor That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!export a=2
 
@TheDoctor I'm afraid I can't let you do that, TheDoctor
 
11:43 PM
!!doge
 
      wow
            many fail
                            much user
so pro
 
!!github
 
@TheDoctor I can't quite understand that format. See /help github for, well...help.
 
!!github red-green
 
@TheDoctor alisterscott/WatirMelonCucumber Green on the outside, red on the inside
 
11:59 PM
@TheDoctor wow, you and the bot have been busy
you didn't break it, so I'm not mad or grumpy or annoyed
be very, VERY thankful you didn't break it
 
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