The Nineteenth Byte

12:25 AM

Hey btw I think I never posted this in here - commit to Puzzling! All of you probably like puzzles in general and we only need 19 more commits before private beta :D

TheDoctor

Seen this yet? discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/a/14203/91320

hichris123

Oy people.

... anyone around?

TheDoctor

Hi. You're back!

hichris123

Yup.

TheDoctor

@Doorknob discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/a/14203/91320

hichris123

12:35 AM

... so poll time: should I kick Doorknob?

TheDoctor

How so?

hichris123

Backstory:

in Charcoal HQ, 10 mins ago, by Doorknob

@hichris ^ Are you going to go join that room just to kick me now? :P

@TheDoctor Kicking == kick user out of the room.

TheDoctor

Don't be mean! Doorknob == cool

hichris123

More backstory:

in Charcoal HQ, Apr 27 at 21:20, by hichris123

Hmm... @Undo can you build a kick script that kicks @Doorknob whenever he mentions 'puzzles'?

hichris123

1:00 AM

@Doorknob where are you? :P

Doorknob

I kidnapped my friend

TheDoctor

1:20 AM

Which friend?

@door why?

Doorknob

because reasons

TheDoctor

3:11 AM

I bet vzn would be happy to post on our blog

undergroundmonorail

4:59 AM

Didn't we used to have more than one thing that wasn't Excellent? Fairly recently?

I don't remember what it was, but I seem to remember something else not being Excellent.

Now, everything is, with the exception of Questions Per Day at Needs Work

Quincunx

@undergroundmonorail The change happened with the introduction of code-trolling

undergroundmonorail

I'm pretty sure Code Trolling became a part of the site before I did.

So I guess I'm misremembering.

Quincunx

WOw. I thought you were a much older (join time) user.

At that time, there was something that wasn't excellent: users.

I think

Ugh I can't remember.

I just remember seeing something yellow.

undergroundmonorail

I joined February 3rd and the first code trolling problem was December 27th of last year

I think I might be remembering a screenshot of that page that was posted to meta, now that I think about it

Quincunx

I first found out about the code-trolling after checking on this meta question:

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Q: Remove Auto CW Limit

The auto CW limit of 60 answers should be removed. The good questions that have been around a while, such as Golf you a quine for great good! get a lot of different answers; good for code-golf. It doesn't make since to auto CW all the answers and it when 60 answers are reached. There have been o...

I looked at the related questions and found these comments:

I don't think that we should put a historical lock on the hottest network question. — Johannes Kuhn Dec 28 '13 at 1:42

In which other questions here in codegolf the auto-CW was a good thing? I looked to the other 10 questions whit >= 60 answers, and none of them should be CW IMHO. So I think that this is changing the rules that apply to ALL questions for the sake of ALL questions. BTW, it has 94 answers and 20,000+ views now and it still did not completed 24 hours since I posted it, so it is expected to still grow much more. — Victor Dec 28 '13 at 7:44

Was not enough: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16226/… — Victor Dec 28 '13 at 0:50

That was the first I found out about code-trolling

I made it to 2048!

undergroundmonorail

5:18 AM

I made it the other day. I was super worried because I messed up right at the end. I had two 1024s on the board but I hit the wrong key and a two appeared between them.

It was pure luck that I still pulled it off.

In the new Mario Golf game, you play as your Mii in the "campaign". They give it a voice, which sort of weirded me out at first because I'm playing as me but the voice is nothing like my own. I warmed up to the idea when I realized that the noise I make when I miss a putt or screw up a swing sounds a lot like "Aw, fuck".

undergroundmonorail

5:51 AM

@undergroundmonorail Wait, no, I joined on January 12th. Still though

In other news, I figured out how to reply to myself

Quincunx

6:03 AM

@Quincunx

@undergroundmonorail I made it the other day too, but I only shared it now.

undergroundmonorail

@Quincunx But you don't get the little arrow!

Quincunx

@undergroundmonorail I thought I knew how; apparently I don't.

@Quincunx Let's see...

undergroundmonorail

@Quincunx !!!

Quincunx

@undergroundmonorail got it from the link address.

undergroundmonorail

Yeah, that's how I did it

Quincunx

6:08 AM

@undergroundmonorail I only just figured out that this is not about code-golfing. :-)

undergroundmonorail

haha

Quincunx

I was searching the site for a "Mario Golf" challenge.

@undergroundmonorail Every time I see your username with your picture, I think "underground monorail cat".

undergroundmonorail

@Quincunx chainsawsuit.com/tag/lazy-cat

luser droog

8:07 AM

The suspense of the Prisoner's Dilemma KOTH is kinda cool. Can't vote on any answers yet.

m.buettner

10:50 AM

@Doorknob you might want to finish your meta-post before someone "from the other camp" does ;)

m.buettner

1:06 PM

Okay this is the worst kind of code-trolling question. But 4 answers already... Can we close this one before it makes it into the hot network questions?

Doorknob

1:37 PM

@m.buettner Heh, yeah I've been meaning to do that

@m.buettner Kill it with FIRE

m.buettner

1:49 PM

@Doorknob I just had another look at your draft. Maybe it would be good if you really aimed the post for "finding a consensus on whether we want code-trolling or not". So answers could either be (justified) opinions on code-trolling - like "code-trolling is consistently bad because x, y and z" or "there are some good code-trolling questions, because x, y, and z - these things make a code-trolling challenge worthwhile", and then we'll just see who gets the upvotes.

TheDoctor

Should be able to delvote now...

m.buettner

If the post is just another rant about code-trolling, it may gather a few comments and maybe an answers, but I think it's less likely that it'll end up as something "official" one can refer to when closing code-trolling questions (and I think that's what we currently really need)

Doorknob

@TheDoctor yes

@m.buettner That sounds good.

TheDoctor

2:10 PM

cv, delv: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/26538/…

ProgramFOX

3:09 PM

Anyone here that can cast a delete vote on this off-topic post?

It's from December and it's still not deleted.

m.buettner

@ProgramFOX done

ProgramFOX

Thanks, it needs one more vote now!

Quincunx

4:31 PM

@ProgramFOX Done.

ProgramFOX

Thanks!

gamecoder

5:22 PM

Hi, I started a bounty on my question without realizing that it only lasts for seven days. I had intended to announce the winner of my question (Speed Clue AI) after May 15, when I will start running the contest. Is there any way to extend the seven day period or to revoke the bounty so I can start it properly one week before announcing the results?

ProgramFOX

I think that a moderator can revoke a bounty.

But I'm not sure.

I found this answer:

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A: Ability to remove the bounty and get reputation back

No. Bounty grants are irrevocable. That's why there's a JavaScript confirmation dialog, informing you of the permanence of the bounty, when you initiate the action.

But I'm not sure whether that also counts for moderators.

gamecoder

How do I contact a moderator?

ProgramFOX

You can flag your post for moderator attention, and wait until they read your flag and revoke the bounty.

@gamecoder: I asked in another room whether moderators can revoke it, and yes, they can:

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 1 min ago, by TGMCians

yes

gamecoder

Thanks for your help, @ProgramFOX.

ProgramFOX

You're welcome!

Joe Z.

5:33 PM

@luserdroog There's not much suspense if there are only 4 entrants so far. Are you coding one? :P

gamecoder

I am trying to work on an entry. Life has been busy. When I have had time, I've been working with others to help them with their entries.

I just completely rewrote the rules to avoid scaring people away with the previous wall of text orz

Joe Z.

5:59 PM

Rewrote the rules of Speed Clue or PD?

And working on an entry for PD or Speed Clue? I can't tell :P

m.buettner

@gamecoder I don't think moving the wall of text to another page is a good idea. a) it doesn't actually reduce the amount of text you need to read to participate b) questions should ideally be self-contained... everything you need to know (in particular, all relevant rules) should be in the problem statement, even if that makes it long. External links are fine for supplementary material for people who want to know more details/trivia/hints at clever algorithms.

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