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The Wobbuffet

12:03 AM

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 1 time.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 2 times.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 3 times.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 4 times.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 5 times.

hichris123

Tell me how this ignore user function works.

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 6 times.

I have this code:
time=1
setInterval(function(){$('#input').val('@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I\'ve said this ' + time + (time===1?' time.':' times.'))
$('#sayit-button').click()
time+=1
},5000)

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 7 times.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 8 times.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 9 times.

hichris123

@ManishEarth Plz?

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 10 times.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 11 times.

@hichris123 Tell me how you hacked dev.SE, I've said this 12 times.

ManishEarth

hehehe

hichris123

12:04 AM

@ManishEarth Thanks.

Auto-kick function? :P

ManishEarth

bookmarklet ftw

The Wobbuffet

:P

If you don't tell me, @hichris, I still have the script!

ManishEarth

so do I

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet Um... I clicked buttons! I typed in unicorns too.

The Wobbuffet

I can make it so that it only happens when you talk

But really, why can't you tell me, a random stranger, how to get into dev.SE?

hichris123

12:07 AM

@TheWobbuffet Cause reasons.

ManishEarth

dev.SE contains sekrits. The old one didn't, but now it does

hichris123

@ManishEarth Well... other than the obvious one there's more?

ManishEarth

12:31 AM

@hichris123 ?

hichris123

@ManishEarth More sekrit things.

ManishEarth

ah

hichris123

I need to find more sekrit stuff there... :P

ManishEarth

...please don't go looking

hichris123

Why? Because I'll break stuff? :P

The Wobbuffet

1:48 AM

I'll find out the seekrets

Seth

@ManishEarth I'd like to know too if I ever get a diamond :D

ManishEarth

ping me when you do :p

Seth

if I do ;P

Everyone seems so confident I'll win >_>

hichris123

@Seth Because you will... :P

How's the primary now @Seth?

Seth

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hichris123

2:02 AM

Has it changed?

Seth

HALP! The soft recs apocalypse has started D:

@hichris123 Eh, I think I'm at 307 now...

hichris123

@Seth When you get your friendly neighborhood mod cough... you'll have help. :P

Seth

@hichris123 Yes, soft recs needs mods really quick.

hichris123

And you shall have some... :P

Seth

Have some what?

Sorry for being stupid, but I'm not following :-/

hichris123

2:11 AM

Maybe you should read the transcript...

3 hours ago, by ManishEarth

No, I don't have any special info, but it seems like @Undo got email #1

^ Like thereish @Seth.

Seth

I actually read all that. I think you haven't followed ;)

15

A: Nominate temporary moderators for this site here

I'd like to nominate Seth He's been a huge part of helping shape the community so far. He's said before that he would really need to think about it before accepting a nomination here, and I believe that the best mods are those that need to be (ever so gently) arm-twisted into it. Decl...

hichris123

Then we're both confused.

Seth

read that --^

I won't be getting an email ;)

hichris123

sigh More confused.

Seth

I'm just in the AU election.

@hichris123 Sorry...

hichris123

2:14 AM

@Seth But you'll still have some SR mods. That's what I was trying to say.

Seth

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Now I get it.

facepalm

hichris123

:P

Maybe I shouldn't be as brief in messages... :P

Seth

You should have said "then you shall have some" the "and you" made me think me.

@hichris123 ;)

hichris123

I should actually be writing that essay right now. :P

But... I want to be on SO and Arduino and code!

sigh If only I didn't have school.

Doorknob

@hichris123 ikr, school is so annoying :P

hichris123

2:17 AM

@Doorknob Especially essays for an honors class.

Just... argh!

Doorknob

I have a DBQ (big essay thingy) for Texas History (WHY DOES THAT EVEN HAVE TO EXIST ANYWAY RANT RANT RANT). Blah >:(

Seth

History is cool :(

Doorknob

@Seth not when it's about a specific state :( US History next year makes more sense

hichris123

@Doorknob I actually know what a DBQ is! Document Based something or other.

Doorknob

Document based question essay. :P

hichris123

2:20 AM

Yeah.. I had to do something like that.

Wait, what grade are you in?

Seth

@Doorknob Well I don't live in Texas, but state history can be really interesting, but it depends on how the information is presented.

Doorknob

And schools stuffs is keeping me from starting... Bootstrap! :P

@hichris123 7th

Seth

Visiting historical sites is one of the best ways to study state history.

Doorknob

@Seth But what's the point of only doing a single state? Might as well do all 50, then...

Seth

@Doorknob You just happen to live in that state..

Doorknob

2:22 AM

@Seth I only have for a year, and I might move somewhere else later :/

Seth

And the history of a country can't get the focus or detail that history of a state can.

hichris123

@Doorknob And you do DBQ's? Wow.

Seth

@Doorknob Sometimes you just have to jump through the hoops too :-/

Doorknob

also I have to derive the law of cosines or something for math for which I got some huge square root thing which is probably wrong and I have no idea how to fix :P

hichris123

I'm in 8th grade, and we've only done like 1...

Seth

2:23 AM

But I'm not going to try to turn someone who doesn't like history into a history buff ;)

Doorknob

@hichris123 this is only our second one or something

@Seth Yes, I suppose.

history is interesting but not when it's so narrow (and required!) :P

Seth

shrug.

hichris123

@Seth I like history...

Seth

At least we can agree about jQuery.

Doorknob

;)

Seth

2:24 AM

@hichris123 I was mainly talking to doorknob.

hichris123

@Seth I know. But you can talk to me about history. Not the doorknob. ;)

Seth

I guess the very fact that a doorknob goes to school is a first. Never thought of it in that sense.

hichris123

Saving you from talking to inanimate objects.

Doorknob

lol

Seth

@hichris123 hahaha

hichris123

2:26 AM

@Undo Ever notice how off-topic this room gets? :P

(it's fine though)

@Doorknob - Yes I understand that <kbd> may not be appealing to certain people, but you can't just editing someone's post because you don't agree with them. The truth is this minor styling is definitely valid. You can stalk me if you want, but it will just be a lose-lose situation for everyone. :( — Derek 朕會功夫 53 secs ago

^ @Doorknob sigh

Doorknob

@hichris123 I know, writing up a reply

Seth

Why are you talking to Eliza?

hichris123

@Seth Mm... @Doorknob == Eliza (yes, I did just look at the Wikipedia for it)? :P

Seth

oh my. Not that topic again.

@hichris123 I meant:

Derek 朕會功夫, United States, Hong Kong

444 2 9

Doorknob

@Derek朕會功夫 My comment was meant partially as a joke, but this "minor styling" should not be used (the above post should convince you of that), and editing improper content/formatting out of a post is certainly valid. You could edit a post that said "Hi please help me with my JavaScript code", and kbd links are just as improper. (Okay, maybe not as bad, but you get the point :P) — Doorknob 29 secs ago

Seth

2:28 AM

Or were you not around last April 1st @hichris123 ?

hichris123

Oh, the picture. That's what it is @Seth.

@Seth Yep. That too.

(I joined like August 10th or something like that)

Seth

345

Q: What is "chat with an expert"?

A box just comes out of nowhere which says "chat with an expert". It happened once on Stack Overflow and once on Meta. Is this an ad? Isn't Meta supposed to have no ads? Here's the HTML for that weird box: <div id="adviza-box" style="width: 380px; "> <div id="adviza-status"> <img ...

support april-fools experts fun

Doorknob

@Seth lol, I remember that. I had fun messing with it :D

Seth

@Doorknob IKR :D

I got my first 20 vote MSO answer because of it xD

hichris123

Heh, me likes.

Doorknob

2:29 AM

:P

hichris123

@hichris123 - May I ask since when I have to strictly follow the W3C recommended guideline when I am writing an answer? I'm not trying to be rude but I have never heard of this rule before... Also, even the SO website itself doesn't follow the HTML5 stadards (according to the W3C markup validation service.) — Derek 朕會功夫 24 secs ago

double sigh

Doorknob

checklist of stuff due tomorrow --> math [x] history [x] [ ] science [x] LA [-] (partial) [ ] :P

Seth

@hichris123 I'm just going to go into shutup mode on this.

hichris123

Hmm... mine math [x] health [x] LA [ ] Science [ ]. :P

@Seth Help me out! :P

Seth

I'm not getting myself into that mess. The only way I could help you was become a SO mod and ban you so you had an excuse not to reply :P

Don't feed the trolls!

hichris123

2:36 AM

@Seth Why would you want to ban a great user like me? :P

Doorknob

:P

Seth

@hichris123 I wouldn't, it was a joke ;P

Doorknob

hence the :P in his reply ;)

hichris123

goes to make animuson delete more wonderful SO questions

3

Seth

ROTFL

hichris123

2:38 AM

@Doorknob If you would, help clean up this: stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/…

Seth

alright, I need to do something more useful for a bit. goes to flag all the things

Doorknob

@hichris123 sorry; I can't; I have too much stuff to do :(

hichris123

If I was a mod, you wouldn't have angry SO mods because they were forced to delete everything.

@Doorknob :( All I can do is VTC. You can VTD.

Doorknob

okay, then list a bunch of questions here while I multitask and work on this map :P

hichris123

How many VTD do you have left?

Doorknob

2:40 AM

all of them (15)

hichris123

Okay: list
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/327332/what-should-a-non-cs-grad-learn-to-be-good-with-programming-languages-like-c
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/382431/good-apis-for-scope-analyzers

@Doorknob Do they have to be closed first?

Doorknob

yes

hichris123

:(

Doorknob

and a score of -3 or below, IIRC

hichris123

@Doorknob That's none of them. :P

Doorknob

2:41 AM

:P

(or closed for 2 days and a score of -2 or less)

The Wobbuffet

Hi

hichris123

Yeah, none of them (I think animuson deleted like at least a 10+ voted question).

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 Ready to spill the beans?

Doorknob

just ping animuson :P

The Wobbuffet

My script is about to start itself...

hichris123

2:43 AM

Manish left! No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doorknob

noooo @ManishE come bahk

hichris123

@ManishBot is here though.

:P

Doorknob

:P

The Wobbuffet

Haha I already use this thanks to chris's decompiling of the Android app

@hichris123 Spill.

@hichris123 The.

@hichris123 Beans.

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet Which I still have the decompiled source of the older version, too. :P

The Wobbuffet

2:45 AM

Seriously, though, give me a hint to the seekret

hichris123

I can't really.

The Wobbuffet

Why can't you?

hichris123

It's not like you can hint someone it.

You either tell them or you don't.

The Wobbuffet

Why not tell me, were you sworen not to tell anyone?

At least give me the URL of devs.SE

dev.stackexchange.com takes you to stackexchange.com

Lol wtf

I just got logged in as someone called 'Blondie21' who has lots of notifications

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet Known bug. :P

The Wobbuffet

2:54 AM

Really? Meta link?

It happens when I log in at dev.stackexchange.com, @hichris123

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet Not on meta. I told Manish and he said he already reported it.

sigh Back to transcript land.

The Wobbuffet

Is this one of the steps to logging in at dev?

dev.stackexchange.com is the seekret url, right?

And you get logged in as Blondie21?

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet Nope. And semi-right on the first two questions.

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 So, you enter the right username and password, and if wrong, you get logged in as Blondie21?

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet Nah. I'm... lemme look. I'm natalie on dev.SE.

Not what I'm refering to, though.

The Wobbuffet

2:59 AM

@hichris123 And if you go to dev.meta.stackoverflow.com or something, it's a beta site

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet That's what I got into. :P

And dev.stackoverflow.com.

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 That's the big hack?

Doorknob

hmmm, I logged in at dev.SE and apparently I'm Sanjay Goswami :P

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet Not dev.SE. dev.SO and dev.mSO.

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 How did you get the "invitation email"?

hichris123

3:02 AM

I... didn't.

The Wobbuffet

So... how did you get in?

hichris123

That's the sekrit part. :P

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 You login with a specific openID, don't you?

@hichris123 Does it require typing codes and hacking?

hichris123

Or actually... is it?

The Wobbuffet

I saw that :D

hichris123

3:05 AM

I don't know.

The Wobbuffet

I'm pretty sure... Manish is lying to you!

Not an issue, login with correct credentials, and...

hichris123

I think no PII leak so it's not that high of a priority.

The Wobbuffet

Seriously, does getting in require you to type specific parts in the console?

hichris123

I don't know.

There's several ways of getting in.

So maybe.

The Wobbuffet

One way?

Tell me.

Tell me, I already know a lot.

hichris123

3:06 AM

I only know one way... and no, I'm not telling you.

The Wobbuffet

Why not?

Who told you?

hichris123

Cause.

The Wobbuffet

Manish? Did you find it out yourself?

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet I figured it out myself.

When I was just bored. :P

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 Which url did you find it at

dev.SO?

hichris123

3:07 AM

dev.SO. Yeah.

The Wobbuffet

Please, just tell me...

Do you play with login?returnurl=%2f?

hichris123

vim > emacs

The Wobbuffet

?

Doorknob

@hichris123 message = "sublime > " + message

also, hooray history [x] [x] science [x] math [x] LA [-] [ ]

hichris123

6 hours ago, by Undo

I'm done answering questions now. All questions regarding the email will be responded to with vim>emacs.

The Wobbuffet

3:09 AM

@hichris123 Yes! You go to something like... dev.stackoverflow.com/users/login?returnurl=/TheWobbuffet

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet ^^

The Wobbuffet

You play with the return URL, that's how you got in!

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet sublime > vim > emacs

Doorknob

lol

The Wobbuffet

Seriously...

hichris123

3:10 AM

sublime != vim

vim != emacs

Doorknob

>:D

hichris123

Did you know sublime != emacs?

Doorknob

Did you know sublime == sublime?

hichris123

Naw! You're kidding!

The Wobbuffet

I know how to make this work

I just need someone to tell me a known dev's username

WHO IS A DEV

Doorknob

3:11 AM

Did you know tan(sublime) = sin(sublime)/cos(sublime)?

sorry, too much math

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 Tell me, which dev did you login as?

hichris123

@Doorknob Um... hmm... a^x + b^y = c^z if a,b,c are coprime and x,y,z are > 2.

^^ Beal conjecture. :P

The Wobbuffet

login?returnurl=/22656/jon-skeet didn't work @hichris123

Doorknob

lol

@TheWobbuffet ...obviously

hmmm, I have an idea, but I have too much homework to try it :P

hichris123

Maybe throw on one of those beefy arms.
Looks real good, coming out of the back of his head like that.

^ Obviously a dev.SO question. :P

The Wobbuffet

3:14 AM

@hichris123 Tell me. What dev did you login as?

Doorknob

@TheWobbuffet None of them (I'm guessing)?

The Wobbuffet

login?returnurl=/22656/jon-skeet is not working. Jon Skeet is not a dev.

hichris123

sigh I hate essays!

Doorknob

me too :(

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 We're not doing essays. He's doing useless History stuff and useless flashcard thingies

Doorknob

3:16 AM

woohoo, LA [-] [x]

only have to finish up that partial LA thing now

you know what, I deserve a break. I'm going to try to break into dev.SO. :P

The Wobbuffet

@Doorknob Notice it takes you to 'returnurl=/'

hichris123

@TheWobbuffet I am. :P

Good luck!

Doorknob

@TheWobbuffet yes, obviously

@hichris123 I have a vague idea. :P

The Wobbuffet

@Doorknob That's how you break it, login as a dev. returnurl = /whateverid/username

Doorknob

@TheWobbuffet ...no it's not

do you know what a return URL is

hichris123

3:18 AM

@Doorknob Mm... what's a vague description of it?

Doorknob

@hichris123 can't reveal anything :P I'll tell you if it fails miserably

hichris123

@Doorknob Okay.

The Wobbuffet

@Doorknob It has this script:

$(function() {
openid.init();
});

Doorknob

@TheWobbuffet ...also obviously

stop pinging me useless things

The Wobbuffet

@Doorknob One more thing, look at the iframe's src!

hichris123

3:23 AM

@Doorknob Has it failed yet? :P

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 You do something with the iframe's src, don't you?

Doorknob

@hichris123 it might soon :P

The Wobbuffet

@hichris123 Look at this! dev.stackauth.com

Doorknob

@hichris Give me a vague hint: does it involve my fkey? :P

hichris123

@Doorknob Mine doesn't... I think.

Doorknob

3:25 AM

meh :P

The Wobbuffet

@Doorknob Yeah, why is there a 'f' before everything in the URL?

hichris123

It may work though @Doorknob.

The Wobbuffet

2

Q: Why am I being logged in as someone else?

I went to http://dev.stackexchange.com (I tried this out because I thought maybe there's a SE site for it, but it seems to redirect me to http://www.stackexchange.com) and logged in. I pressed the button that "sends SE information to this site" and I got logged in as... Blondie21? Edit It se...

discussion bug security security-hole

Okay gtg to sleep... :( tell me what you come up with @Doorknob

Doorknob

I think I'm making progress

hichris123

@Doorknob What's progress equal?

Doorknob

3:30 AM

@hichris123 somewhat working but getting a XSS security error. :P

okay, I need to sleep too. shall work on this more in the morning

hichris123

Heh. What have I done?

Cya @Doorknob. Pingy me if you get in (though I may be at school).

ManishBot

7:51 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Simulating craps games on codereview.stackexchange.com

kalina

morning

ManishBot

8:32 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x00002b2f7e9b2744, pid=28778, tid=1138739520 on stackoverflow.com

ManishEarth

9:27 AM

@TheWobbuffet No need to publicly report that (possible PII leak). Oded already knows about it anyway.

ManishBot

1:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO FIND CENTER OF MASS on physics.stackexchange.com

ManishBot

2:04 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PDF - NOT WORKING - ON ANDROID on askubuntu.com

ManishBot

2:21 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PDF - NOT WORKING - ON ANDROID on askubuntu.com

ManishBot

4:49 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: COMMAND LINE FOR LAME on askubuntu.com

ManishEarth

Oy, @Undo

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: POISSON FIXED AND RANDOM EFFECT on stats.stackexchange.com

ManishEarth

@ManishBot sup, fake me

Undo

@ManishEarth Oy

ManishEarth

@Undo So, I was just contacted by one of the MO mods. They want to pay me to write a userscript O.o

Undo

5:00 PM

@ManishEarth MO... MathOverflow?

ManishEarth

33

Q: Formatting citations to the literature on MathOverflow

We'd like to make it easier to cite articles from the literature, on MathOverflow. I propose adding a single button to the edit toolbar while writing posts, which will pop up a search dialog, allow the user to select a result, and then insert a nicely formatted link to the paper back into the...

discussion featured user-interface citations

yeah

Undo

wow

looks pretty easy

While you're at it, make some custom CSS to make MO look better :P

ManishEarth

@Undo Well, the easiness depends on how much styling and all has to be done for the search results

Undo

Yes...

You'll need to find some kind of list of math books and papers

ManishEarth

@Undo already done, see the github.io link on the post

Undo

5:03 PM

Ooooh

shiny

ManishEarth

@Undo I was wondering if I should just do it for free. But I dunno, never done anything for money before, so there's that :)

Undo

@ManishEarth You're asking me?

:P

ManishEarth

@Undo you do do some paid work, right?

Undo

yeah

ManishEarth

@Undo so you're more experienced here than I am :)

Undo

5:06 PM

It's up to you. If they really want to pay you, let them. But if you want to make it and it sounds fun and all that, just do it and hand it to them.

But my paid stuff is kinda different.

ManishEarth

@Undo Well, I don't have much time on my hands and it's not that fun

Undo

Then do what you want to do.

ManishEarth

But neither do I feel good in asking for money for something that I've usually done for free :p

eh, I'll make it up as I go along :p

Undo

I don't know what the mod culture is, either :P

I never really interact with my customers, so... I've never had to deal with it.

@ManishEarth The difference is that you aren't asking for money - they're offering you money.

ManishEarth

@Undo Oh, interacted with Scott in the past before

True

Undo

5:09 PM

So if it's fun do it as a fun thing, and if it isn't look at it as a business opportunity.

ManishEarth

hah

Undo

Of course, sometimes you get the best of both worlds. I'm currently working on a web scraper in Ruby, and it's great fun. But the consultant I consult for won't not pay me.

I've tried to tell him that it's just pure fun, but he says that if he gets paid for it, I do too.

ManishEarth

@Undo haha

Undo

(and BTW, Rubular is awesome :D)

Anyway, it's your call.

Oh, and I just got email 1.5 :D

ManishEarth

@Undo yeah, that's pretty much a confirmation

Undo

5:15 PM

Now I'm kinda scared :P