The Bridge

@AshleyNunn I don't know, does it? Normally this discussion is me saying some game is bad because it's not pretty, but in this instance I'm on the other side...

Wipqozn

@Yuki I have a hard time believing any American wouldn't know about Russia because of this.

Martin Sojka

@Arperum Actually, both of them. I'm quite happy to call Brazilians, Guatemalans and Mexicans as, collectively, "Americans".

3ventic

Pretty pixels can make you buy a game, but pretty pixels won't keep you playing it.

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden You can trade!

Martin Sojka

@OrigamiRobot ... or India.

Kevin van der Velden

3:15 PM

@FAE I know! But there's no better reason to get one over the other

Arperum

@MartinSojka That's part of Asia.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot the continent Australia is on is called Australasia

Martin Sojka

@Arperum Only since very recently, and it's still its own (sub-)continent.

Sterno

@kalina I knew better than to ask.

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden I actually agonized over this decision for a while, haha.

kalina

3:15 PM

@Sterno lol

FAE

@Sterno Smart man.

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE I just looked at the differences and picked a stupid reason and now I'm gonna stick to it and hope to not agonize over it ><

kalina

is that really the difference between pokemon releases?

user15026

@kevin I solved that by asking for one for Christmas, and thus being happy with whatever the gift giver gave me (ended up being X)

kalina

they're released in pairs and one game has some collectibles in it that the other doesn't but they're otherwise the same game?

FEichinger

3:17 PM

@kalina Pretty much.

Kevin van der Velden

@AshleyNunn also a plausible way, but christmas is pretty far away =p

kalina

do some people actually buy both?

FAE

@kalina There are some differences in evolutions for some of the pokemon and the Legendary is different.

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina jup

FAE

@kalina Many, many do.

FEichinger

3:17 PM

@kalina Yes, quite a lot.

holy pings, batman

INB4

@kal yup

@KevinvanderVelden @FAE DAMN YOU BOTH!

user15026

@kevin fair enough, hahaha

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:18 PM

@kalina hi

kalina

@LessPop_MoreFizz hi

LessPop_MoreFizz

@kalina ping

@kalina pong

user15026

I just liked not having to make decisions!

FEichinger

(Yes, I totally intentionally pinged @kalina again, just for the sake of pinging her. I in no way accidentally pinged the wrong @k there... No way!)

Kevin van der Velden

@LessPop_MoreFizz Marco!

kalina

3:18 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz pong

@LessPop_MoreFizz ping

Wipqozn

NO, @FRANK NO! I'M LOOKING AT THE WIKI!

I WON'T LET YOU CONVERT ME

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Frank

@Wipqozn YES!

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot REMIND ME OF THE BORING

Frank

RIDE CHOCOBOS!

user15026

@wipqozn be strong!

Frank

3:18 PM

CHANGE CLASSES!

kalina

@Wipqozn DON'T DO IT

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn Global. Cool. Down.

Frank

PLAY THE GOOD STORY!

Kevin van der Velden

BE BORED OUT OF YOUR MIND

Unionhawk

@kal ALL THE PINGS

kalina

3:19 PM

...

Arperum

@Wipqozn PAY MONTHLY.

Sterno

@Frank See, that should be enough to lose anyone right there.

Kevin van der Velden

But yeah @kalina, you asked a question about pokemon, you will get all the pings =p

Grace Note

Which game are we attempting to convert Wipqozn to?

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn HOW CAN IT BE THE FINAL FANTASY IF THERE ARE SO MANY? HMMM? THAT SOUND LIKE FUN?

kalina

3:19 PM

@Sterno no, that is definitely a selling point

@GraceNote Final Fantasy MMO

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot that's a good point.

Grace Note

@kalina I'm assuming 14?

Fluttershy

@GraceNote "We" nothing. @Frank is doing this on his own. We're trying to prevent the travesty.

Sterno

Chocobos are awful.

Almost as bad as kupos

kalina

@GraceNote uh... whatever the MMO is, I think so yeah

Grace Note

3:20 PM

@kalina There are two.

Frank

@kalina Yes. It's 14.

kalina

@GraceNote the new one, not the one that was cancelled/scrapped/abandoned

Wipqozn

sort of three, considering the original 14 is completely different from the remake.

Fluttershy

@kalina Final Fantasy XI was an MMO also.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot this applies to literally every MMO

Grace Note

3:20 PM

@Wipqozn Yeah, we featured the original 14 on a "BURN ON SIGHT BAD GAMES" panel.

Unionhawk

Sorry, my phones keyboard is being awful today

Krazer

@Sterno Horsebirds

kalina

@Fluttershy really?

I don't really keep track of Final Fantasy

Fluttershy

@kalina Yeah.

kalina

having never played one for any real amount of time

the only one I've ever played had some stupid dress spheres thing in it

where you could sing and dance to kill enemies

I lost interest during the intro cinematic

Sterno

3:21 PM

@Wipqozn You should be saving yourself for Banished.

FAE

@kalina Final Fantasy X-2

It's... not representative of the series.

kalina

@FAE sounds familiar

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Your reason is flawed! X has mega charizard X, which is dragon type.

kalina

@FAE also sounds familiar

OrigamiRobot

IF YOU WANT TO PLAY A 2D FINAL FANTASY GAME, PLAY CHRONO TRIGGER INSTEAD
IF YOU WANT TO PLAY A 3D FINAL FANTASY GAME, PLAY LEGEND OF DRAGOON INSTEAD
IF YOU WANT TO PLAY A FINAL FANTASY MMO, GO SIT IN THE CORNER AND THINK ABOUT YOUR LIFE

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Kevin van der Velden

3:23 PM

@Arperum Yes, but so is charizard and mega evolution is only temporary anyway

OrigamiRobot

@KevinvanderVelden CHARIZARD IS NOT A DRAGON TYPE

Yuki

@KevinvanderVelden No, regular Charizard is Fire/Flying.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden How temporary? Does it use up the item?

Yuki

@Arperum No, it just transforms him for the rest of the battle.

FAE

@Arperum No, but it's only during battle.

Yuki

3:24 PM

You have to transform every battle to use Mega-Evolutions.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot bla, you are correct

Hmmmm

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot FF is like Star Wars to me. Loved it so much as a kid, but has taken me so long to realize that it sucks.

OrigamiRobot

@Arperum FROM A GAMEPLAY PERSPECTIVE, IT MIGHT AS WELL BE PERMANENT.

Yuki

Mega-Evolutions, Pokemon in disguise...

kalina

@OrigamiRobot autocad?

OrigamiRobot

3:24 PM

OF COURSE

Kevin van der Velden

Hmm, you can only find the correct stone in X

Jason Berkan

I purchased a NES to play FF1.

Arperum

I'm getting pokemon X, since Y has a legendary that looks terrible.

Grace Note

@Yuki I preferred to parallel with Mega-Merging.

FAE

@Arperum Lies!

Wipqozn

3:25 PM

@Sterno This is one of the main reasons I won't want to buy it. I just don'twant to devote the time to an MMO right now.

Arperum

@FAE Yveltal looks terrible. Terrible I say.

FAE

@Arperum CC @OrigamiRobot

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum lies I tell you!

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden What I did was I wanted Yveltal but I also wanted Mega Charizard X, so @Fluttershy and I traded our mega stones.

Arperum

@FAE You can also tell Jochem that his server is sturdy as hell, it barely didn't even care that I set up 1k+ TNT

FAE

3:27 PM

He's my boyfriend though, so he was willing to do that. :P

@Arperum ...yeah, I was called over to look at that. >_>

Arperum

@FAE You've seen the craters I caused :p

FAE

He logged in and was like, "Why are there blocks floating in the air?", walked over and saw the gigantic mega hole you made.

OrigamiRobot

@Arperum BETTER THAN A STUPID DEER

Arperum

@FAE The only reason it wasn't bigger is because the nukes have been nerfed to require a stupid amount of work to set up. And after ~10 or so nukes I got bored with them.

Yuki

@GraceNote Yeah... unfortunately, that looks like a one-off thing with Kyurem.

OrigamiRobot

3:29 PM

PRETTY MUCH ALL THE NEW POKEMON LOOK DUMB

FAE

@Arperum He is highly amused by this

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot EO has taught us that deer are to be feared.

Blem

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Yuki

Was really hoping that the new Latios/Latias form was going to be a result of merging, but looks like they're going with Mega-Evolution because they're poops.

@Blem I think the Moon's bigger than that.

Wipqozn

@Yuki He's a weremoon, not the moon you silly.

OrigamiRobot

3:30 PM

@Yuki THE MOON IS, BUT THIS GUY IS A WEREMOON

FEichinger

@Blem When I first saw it, it took me far too long to get...

OrigamiRobot

TSK TSK @FEI

Private Pansy

Study: Less war improves mental health of soldiers

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy Really? How surprising!

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy Wow, not putting people in terrible situations where they are bored out of their minds and then in danger for their lives is good for mental health? Who would have thought!

kalina

3:33 PM

@PrivatePansy wow, breaking news

FEichinger

inb4 both of you.

kalina

not if I place you both on ignore, then my message is directly below the comment

Yuki

@PrivatePansy I really don't think the "mental" qualifier is necessary.

Kevin van der Velden

@FEichinger yes, but I said more

FEichinger

@kalina You would never put me on ignore!

@KevinvanderVelden Who cares, I type faster anyway.

Unionhawk

3:34 PM

@FEi

Fluttershy

@FAE Yep! Except I messed up the first time. :P But s'all good now.

Kevin van der Velden

@FEichinger meh I say! meh

FEichinger

@Unionhawk But I am definitely putting you on ignore!

Kevin van der Velden

Poor @Uni

FEichinger

OrigamiRobot

3:36 PM

@UNI

@FEI

@KAL

@FLU

kalina

@ori

@uni

@fei

@flu

3ventic

@OrigamiRobot best one

Fluttershy

@FAE

5

Oh...

FEichinger

@kalina Screw you.

Kevin van der Velden

@Fluttershy stupid out of context stars best stars

3ventic

3:37 PM

3 is the minimum name length?

Kevin van der Velden

For some definition of best...

kalina

@FEichinger why would anybody ignore @uni?

OrigamiRobot

@3ve

Michel

Hellooooo people!!

FAE

@FEichinger @Unionhawk's so itty bitty! He looks adorable!

Unionhawk

3:37 PM

Some monster.

FEichinger

@kalina Because three-letter-pinging is evil!

Michel

xD

kalina

hi @mic

FEichinger

@FAE See, you understand me! :D

FAE

@Michel Hiyas!

kalina

3:38 PM

@FEichinger you don't have me on ignore

Michel

\o/

OrigamiRobot

Also, AutoCAD complete for now.

3ventic

Reply script is faster than 3-letter ping because typing @ is horrible.

Michel

anyone here still plays Simcity 2013 ?

FEichinger

@kalina You know full well I can't put you on ignore. :(

kalina

3:38 PM

@Michel no

Michel

@kalina T_T

OrigamiRobot

@3ventic Not really.

Kevin van der Velden

@3ventic shift+2? Or is your keyboard just horrible?

kalina

I think there was pretty much only me in here that played it in the first place

Wipqozn

@Michel Play Banished instead.

Lazers

3:39 PM

-3

Q: How to make own counter strike server?

I wanna know how I can run cs server on my PC? Lan users can easily join but not from internet.

counter-strike

Wipqozn

...when it comes out in 2 weeks...

3ventic

@Michel I considered buying it for a while

Michel

@kalina btw, what r u playing atm ?

kalina

@KevinvanderVelden shift + '

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn 13 days*

3ventic

3:39 PM

@KevinvanderVelden alt gr+2

kalina

@Michel I'm actually playing nothing atm

haven't started up a game in over a week

Michel

@Wipqozn Going to take a look

3ventic

shift+2 is "

Kevin van der Velden

@3ventic aside from using the alt key that's not that horrible

OrigamiRobot

@3ventic Do you even @?

Wipqozn

3:39 PM

This question appears to be off-topic because it isn't about the game itself. — Michel 2 mins ago

Michel

@kalina Are you fine? do you need an ambulance or something?!

Wipqozn

We allow such questions, do we not?

3ventic

It's a combination of two keys on the opposite sides of the keyboard

I hate that

kalina

@Michel absolutely fine

Wipqozn

This question should be closed since he needs more info though.

FEichinger

3:40 PM

Alt-Gr + Q, because fuck normal keyboards.

Unionhawk

See, as long as kalina cooperates, I can now talk about how bad of a person @fei is

Kevin van der Velden

@3ventic ooh right, alt gr... that abomination

Michel

@3ventic Took me time, but I finally brought it... it's funny xD~

@kalina ^.^

3ventic

@Wipqozn Depends on what it is about..

kalina

@Michel ^_^

OrigamiRobot

3:40 PM

^o^

FAE

@Wipqozn Questions about running servers are within our purview, but yeah, there's not enough info there.

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina ^_____-_____^

<('o')>

^V^

...

3:41 PM

xD

.... xD

#yolo

(V)(;,,;)(V)

@FAE Okay, I thought so, but I do remember their being some controversy about it in the past. Wasn't sure if it changed. Meta suggest no.

FEichinger

slowly backs out of room

Arperum

3:41 PM

@kalina flagged for yolo.

kalina

@Arperum well, you only live once

OrigamiRobot

(/|\)(;,,;)(/|\)

Arperum

@kalina You only die once too!

Michel

/o\

kalina

@Arperum speak for yourself, I'm an angel and thus immortal

Michel

3:42 PM

Emoticon war ?

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot zoidberg?

3ventic

@Arperum Better get it out of the way quickly so you can party all you want, eh?

FAE

@Wipqozn We get questions about running Minecraft servers all the time though...

OrigamiRobot

@KevinvanderVelden Why not?

FEichinger

@kalina This conflicts with other information I have.

kalina

3:42 PM

@FEichinger angel cake

FEichinger

@kalina OH SCREW YOU.

Unionhawk

Dear SwiftKey and my phone: i hate you. <3 @uni

Arperum

@3ventic I've been able of not dying somehow. Quite confused about the how though.

Michel

@kalina I know that you don't like DW, but ... I took some time until I finally remove the "weeping" from the text (dyslexia at it finest)

Arperum

I've had multiple cases of still alive because mad luck.

user15026

3:44 PM

@unionhawk what do you hate about it?

Wipqozn

@FAE Right. all the crappy minecraft questions just tend to blend together after a while.

kalina

@Unionhawk what phone?

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum just keep on not dying until you live forever

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden It's like flying in H2G2.

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE exactly, except with less petunias

FAE

3:45 PM

@KevinvanderVelden I should reread that sometime soon.

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE that sounds like a plan, I have the trilogy in 5 parts

I should toss that on the list

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, I have it all in one book.

I think that copy may still be at my parents' though, hm...

kalina

I think I have two copies of hitchikers guide

one is like a huge book that contains four books, and one is a box set with five books in it

Kevin van der Velden

MMOs in a nut shell (very slightly NSFW)

@kalina I've got the book that is 5 books which form the trilogy

Michel

@StrixVaria you almost got this time! sorry. Congratz on @AshleyNunn , @fredley and @LessPop_MoreFizz for the new diamond name

FAE

3:48 PM

amazon.com/Ultimate-Hitchhikers-Guide-Galaxy-ebook/dp/…

That's the one I have

Wow, that onebox is large.

FEichinger

@FAE Amazon oneboxes aren't size-limited for whatever reason.

Unionhawk

First Gen Droid RAZR maxx. It lags like crazy when I'm typing.

FAE

@FEichinger Weird.

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE I have the hardcover version

FAE

@Unionhawk Wow. Does it like... meet minimum specs for SwiftKey?

OrigamiRobot

3:49 PM

@Arperum According to my Wikipedia spiral, Oceania is actually a region which includes New Zealand, but New Zealand and Australia aren't actually part of the same continent. New Zealand is it's own (mostly submerged) continent called Zealandia. TIL

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden Same. I think that defaulted to Kindle.

The link I mean.

Kevin van der Velden

That's odd, ah well

Michel

@Wipqozn thanks for the clarification =)

OrigamiRobot

@kalina The above also applies to "Australasia"

Michel

@loko Your are correct. Questions asking about hosting game servers is fine. However, this question dos require more information. To that end, user68525, could you provide us more information about your problem? What steps have you taken thus far, which errors have you recieved, et cetera? We'll need information like this so we can help you solve your problem. — Wipqozn 7 mins ago

FAE

3:51 PM

@OrigamiRobot Yet another place that's named originally from Dutch.

Unionhawk

Theoretically, it's supported. I think age might be a factor here

LessPop_MoreFizz

Oh man, I can't wait for this dumb Bechdel nonsense on scifi to explode into metadrama

Wipqozn

@Michel You're welcome.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot what, today you learned?

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz What's going on?

Kevin van der Velden

3:51 PM

@FAE the dutch are just everywhere

kalina

@LessPop_MoreFizz did you just say drama?

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden Well, you had colonies out the wazoo way back when, man.

kalina

signs up to sci-fi

Kevin van der Velden

They could even be dum dum dum in this VERY channel!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE You'll want to look at the comments on DVKs two questions.

FAE

3:53 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz ...*facepalm*

IT IS NOT A DEFINITIVE LITMUS TEST ARGH

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE Like, I get the question about Alien, because it's the canonical example.

And I'm willing to forgive the Tolkien one because it started this dumb kerfluffle.

But asking about Elric and Conan is basically just trolling.

(It should be noted that DVK is... if not actually an MRA, than I suspect very very sympathetic to that cause. Certainly he is the last person I'd call a feminist.)

FEichinger

Now, while I agree that the motivation for asking the question and the whole thing around it is pretty dumb ... But the question looks valid, especially so by S&F standards.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FEichinger Oh it's absolutely valid by SFF standards.

FEichinger

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm just saying, the downvotes seem out of place

LessPop_MoreFizz

But the guy asking them likes to throw hissyfits on meta about downvotes.

FAE

3:56 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, agreed, but the rest I just... yeah.

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger What isn't valid by their standards?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FEichinger downvotes are for bad questions, not for off topic questions.

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot spam... I think that's about it

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz He's at 100k rep, downvotes are a drop in the bucket.

FEichinger

@LessPop_MoreFizz I don't agree that the motivation and comment thread for a question makes it a bad question, though.

Kevin van der Velden

3:57 PM

Has to be like, viagra spam though

LessPop_MoreFizz

Just because a question is valid doesn't make it good. And when a question is asked based on a fundamentally flawed premise - especially willfully so, that's basically the definition of poor research effort.

FEichinger

I mean, I get the downvotes, we all like to piss on something we disagree with.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE Hasn't stopped him before.

Kevin van der Velden

@FAE o.o 100K rep. HOW THE HELL?

FEichinger

But at the end of the day, I'm not seeing anything in terms of quality that would warrant downvotes.

OrigamiRobot

3:57 PM

@KevinvanderVelden Re: Low content standards

FAE

@KevinvanderVelden The SF&F's standards are a bit more lax than ours, so rep seems to be easier to come by there.

Sterno

Don't tell me how to vote!

FEichinger

@Sterno Oh, I'm not. I very much avoid even getting an account on S&F.

It's just that the downvotes seem out of place in terms of quality.

So, I can get why someone would throw a fit over it - as much as I disagree with having that fit in the first place.

Sterno

I don't even know what we're talking about but it makes me want to go downvote whatever it is.

Wipqozn

@FAE SciFi has standards?

GIVE ME THE STARS NOW PLEASE

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