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7:22 PM
Yeah, disgustingly cute describes it better. But... someone's going to eat them?
When you talk behind someone's back, you say something unfair about them when they're not present
What if you say something good and fair about them when they are not present?
Is there a word for that?
Praise! I found it.
neener neener
 
Anonymous
@Gigili No one's going to eat them.
 
Anonymous
That's not a plate. It's cuttlebone :-)
 
Anonymous
(Which is not a kind of bone, which makes sense coming from cuttlefish, which are not a kind of fish)
 
!!are you thinking what I'm thinking?
 
@KitFox Well, I think so Brain, but the first you'd have to take that whole bridge apart, wouldn't you?
 
7:40 PM
@snailboat (eh? I saw the word sandwich somewhere, I guess) I thought they're going to eat snail sandwiches. phew
 
Anonymous
@Gigili Oh, that's just a hostname!
 
Anonymous
I like the sound of the word sandwich. Saaaaaandwich.
 
Anonymous
It could have been www, but that would be boring.
 
@snailboat It seems like they are chatting to each other too. :)
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. They seem to enjoy each other's company :-)
 
7:50 PM
!!where have you been Soxy?
 
@badass I didn't understand that. Use the help command to learn more.
 
@badass That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
 
@snailboat Is there an onomatopoeia for snails or worms crawling in English?
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Not that I'm aware of. That doesn't mean there isn't, of course.
 
7:52 PM
(In Thai, we have [kra-deup kra-deup].)
 
Anonymous
Of course, snails and worms don't really make sound when they crawl
 
It's our imagination, of course. :)
 
Anonymous
In English, we tend to have genuine onomatopoeia for sounds, and not more general mimetic words for non-sounds
 
!!youtube roxy roller
 
@badass That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
 
Anonymous
7:53 PM
I'm not sure about Thai. In Japanese, there are "onomatopoeia" for lots of non-sounds. For example, shin (often with a drawn-out i) is onomatopoeia for silence.
 
Ah, we have [shii]. Very close to Japanese's one.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. So Thai does have mimetic words for non-sounds? English mostly doesn't
 
I think so.
 
We have some!
 
7:55 PM
Thai have been influenced from many cultures around us.
Indian, Chinese, from way back then.
 
Now I want Thai food for dinner.
 
Anonymous
@KitFox Can you name some? I was trying to think of some. I said "mostly" because I think there are some, but I couldn't come up with any examples
 
Tom Yum Kung. :)
 
Anonymous
I like Thai food :-)
 
@snailboat crickets
I can't eat shrimp.
I like plaar nur.
And pretty much every Thai curry I've ever eaten.
 
7:57 PM
I'm not sure what is [plaar nur]?
Delicious!
 
It is a warm beef salad with a chili sauce.
 
Oh, I got it!
 
At least, according to our local Thai restaurant.
 
Anonymous
More generally, I like spicy food.
 
Anonymous
I'm really bad at remembering names of Thai dishes.
 
Anonymous
7:58 PM
I always order based on the English names.
 
Anonymous
Oh, that looks good!
 
พล่าเนื้อ
 
@kitfox could you program KitSox to format the links to youtube and Wikipedia as [text](link) please?
 
@badass What do you mean? She already does that.
@DamkerngT. Yes, that. Yum.
 
7:59 PM
^_^
 
@kitfox so that they will take up less space in the chat [text](link)
 
@badass That's how they are formatted. It's the general styling that one-boxes them, not me.
 
Oh I understand now :-)
!!wiki style
 
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@DamkerngT. sǝʎ
 
8:10 PM
@JohanLarsson Perhaps I should turn my screen up-side down. :)
Do you like it [พล่าเนื้อ]?
 
Anonymous
It's funny when someone submits a question beginning "Hello, everyone!" and the site removes "Hello, ", leaving behind a question beginning "everyone!"
 
@snailboat Hah!
What does an "administration staff" do?
 
administers.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I assume it's used to cast spells.
 
LOL
There's an ELL question about a job title for someone who deals with paper works, documents, and so on.
I thought "administration staff is close".
I think that he wants a euphemism for clerk.
 
Anonymous
8:18 PM
Euphemism implies that clerk is offensive, doesn't it?
 
He seems to imply so.
 
Clerk is a bit old-fashioned. I like it though.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. It looks like they think it's informal rather than offensive.
 
Anonymous
I don't know what a formal job title might be for a clerk.
 
Not administration staff though. You'd use administrative staff or more likely administrative assistant.
 
8:19 PM
@snailboat Oh, yes. You're right!
 
"Staff" implies a bunch of people.
You could even say administrative clerk.
 
Anonymous
I don't really get job titles. I've never had a job title that I'd actually use when telling someone what I do for a living.
 
administrative assistant sounds nice.
 
Anonymous
I like just saying I'm a programmer.
 
Legal clerk.
 
8:21 PM
I'm not sure it's about legal work. He mentioned: "people standing behind the counters taking your forms"
 
I only mean to say that it is a relatively common job title.
 
Oh, okay. Thank you.
 
And I would expect that a clerk specifically deals with paperwork and filing, where an admin assistant might, but would also do other stuff.
!!define clerking
 
@KitFox clerking Present participle of clerk.
 
Why are you not helpful?
 
Anonymous
8:23 PM
Also, a portmanteau meaning the Clerk King.
 
!!define clerk
 
@KitFox clerk One who occupationally works with records, accounts, letters, etc.; an office worker.
 
That seems to fit the job precisely.
 
!!wiki clerk
 
A clerk is a white-collar worker who conducts general office tasks, or a worker who performs similar sales-related tasks in a retail environment (a retail clerk). The responsibilities of clerical workers commonly include record keeping, filing, staffing service counters and other administrative tasks. History and etymology The word clerk is derived from the Latin clericus meaning "cleric" or "clergyman", which is the latinisation of the Greek κληρικός (klērikos), "of the clergy". The word entered English from Scots Gaelic clèireach, which was also derived from the Latin clericus. The as...
 
8:25 PM
:-)
 
See how well she behaves when you invoke her correctly?
 
I thought a clerk is a blue-collar worker.
 
No. Blue-collar is manual labor usually.
 
This is new to me. Good to know that. Thanks @badass.
 
@Kitsox Yes and I thank you for bringing her :-)
 
Anonymous
8:26 PM
!!wiki
 
@snailboat No result found
 
@badass Not for being him?
 
!!wiki blue collar
 
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Perhaps clerk sounded rather bad in most parts of Asia 20 years ago.
But I'm not sure about today.
 
Anonymous
8:28 PM
!!wiki Clausiliidae
 
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It's rare to hear anyone being called clerk here this day.
 
these days
 
these days but today?
 
umm?
whatever
 
Anonymous
8:29 PM
@DamkerngT. Can you rephrase that question?
 
I thought nowadays, today, these days, and this day have almost the same meaning.
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Sure. Today can mean these days. But this day is weird
 
These days includes today.
 
Got it. Thank you.
 
Anonymous
Yesterday, today, and tomorrow are all commonly used figuratively (to mean roughly past, present, and future). This day is not--at least, I don't think it is
 
8:31 PM
I was used to nowadays, until recently I saw a post (EL&U) that it's old-fashioned, and I should use today instead. And that was the start of my confusion. :)
 
Today is too specific for what you are saying
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. I don't personally think there's anything wrong with nowadays. You could say it if you wanted to!
 
@badass That was what I thought, which is why I was reluctant to say today.
 
Anonymous
There are lots of acceptable alternatives.
 
Anonymous
Today can mean this day (literally) or it can mean roughly the present (figuratively)
 
8:34 PM
"Nowadays " is fine
 
Maybe I read that question the wrong way. :)
 
Anonymous
See sense two in Collins for today: "the present age ⇒ children of today"
 
Using older English is not wrong
 
Can I use presently too? (to mean nowadays)
 
Or you could have said "these days"
 
Anonymous
8:37 PM
I'm not a huge fan of presently in this context.
 
Back to my sentence...
It's rare to hear anyone being called clerk here these days. (here = Thailand and maybe Hong Kong, and perhaps Singapore and Malaysia too)
 
Anonymous
That's good. (As Gigili said!)
 
Thank you @Gigili
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. My first thought was actually "Don't they usually speak Thai in Thailand?"
 
Thanks @gigilli
 
Anonymous
8:41 PM
Is it common to have job titles in English as well?
 
@snailboat Of course!
It will sound way more cool!
Don't know why. ^^
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Hehe! Is English as pervasive in Thailand as it is in Japan?
 
@DamkerngT. Don't mention it
 
I'm not sure we can say it's pervasive.
But for two brands with everything else being equal, the one with English name will have its edge over the Thai one.
Isn't it strange?
 
Oh, I thought snailboat put a dot at the end of your name, turned out your display name has a dot at the end
 
8:45 PM
@Gigili I'm sure you don't want to spell my surname.
It's really looooong.
 
Anonymous
Hah, I love Thai names.
 
Anonymous
They don't look like any other sort of names.
 
I think the official name of Bangkok is the longest city name in the world.
กรุงเทพมหานคร อมรรัตนโกสินทร์ มหินทรายุธยา มหาดิลกภพ นพรัตนราชธานีบูรีรมย์ อุดมราชนิเวศน์มหาสถาน อมรพิมานอวตารสถิต สักกะทัตติยวิษณุกรรมประสิทธิ์
That's the full name of Bangkok. :)
 
You are making that up.
!!wiki Bangkok
 
Bangkok is the capital and the most populous city of Thailand. It is known in Thai as Krung Thep Maha Nakhon (, pronounced ) or simply . The city occupies in the Chao Phraya River delta in Central Thailand, and has a population of over eight million, or 12.6 percent of the country's population. Over fourteen million people (22.2 percent) live within the surrounding Bangkok Metropolitan Region, making Bangkok an extreme primate city, dwarfing Thailand's other urban centres in terms of importance. Bangkok traces its roots to a small trading post during the Ayutthaya Kingdom in the 15th ...
 
8:48 PM
It's the truth.
 
Anonymous
Wikipedia gives it as Krungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit romanized
 
Yes
 
Anonymous
I remember the Krung part.
 
[Krung] = city
 
Doesn't sound like Bangkok at all.
 
Anonymous
8:49 PM
Mostly because there's a restaurant here named Krung Thai
 
[thep] = angels
 
Oh, it means Los Angeles?
 
Bangkok is the old name, a common name, for commoners.
@KitFox Yes, exactly.
[maha] = great. I think @snailboat knows this one.
 
Google Translate says it means "Bangkok Amon Rattanakosin Mahindra Ayudhya's Dilok Worlds Nopparatrajathanee Pendlebury Rd. Great place rich palace Amon Piman static Avatars Saka gravitational flawless performance on Vishnu"
 
Anonymous
@DamkerngT. Hehe! I do.
 
8:50 PM
I can do a much better translation job for that.
 
Anonymous
As previously discussed :-)
 
Anonymous
Google Translate is funny.
 
Like "maharaja"?
 
Anonymous
Yes!
 
Anonymous
Or Mahatma
 
8:51 PM
Raja means king or something, right? Leader?
 
Anonymous
Or 摩訶不思議
 
Bless you.
 
As in Mahatma Gandhi?
 
Someone already translated it. Here goes: "City of angels, great city of immortals, magnificent city of the nine gems, seat of the king, city of royal palaces, home of gods incarnate, erected by Visvakarman at Indra's behest"
@Gigili Yes
 
I like 'gravitational flawless performance on Vishnu'.
I'm sure he wouldn't mind it.
 
8:52 PM
^^
 
Static avatars must be the "home of gods incarnate" part.
I like the word avatar.
It's sexy.
Also, behest.
 
We borrowed that word to Thai too.
We had to memorize Bangkok's full name by rote when we were children.
Until someone put the name into a song.
 
Memorize by rote.
!!define rote
 
@KitFox rote The process of learning or committing something to memory through mechanical repetition, usually by hearing and repeating aloud, often without full attention to comprehension or thought for the meaning.
 
Hmm.
I've never heard it used as a straight verb before.
 
8:57 PM
!!define tote
 
@MετάEd tote A bag, specifically a tote bag.
 
Hi @MετάEd.
 
heya.
 
Anonymous
Collins only has rote as a noun. ← I typed verb accidentally.
 
It's in Wiktionary too.
 
Anonymous
8:58 PM
The OED, on the other hand, has three separate entries for rote as a verb.
 
sighs I am feeling very unkind in my heart right now.
 
Anonymous
> 1838 Tupper Proverb. Philos., Of Memory iii, Memory is not wisdom: idiots can rote volumes.
 

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