Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:05 AM

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Q: Find out where the directory is in Linux?

When I executed the command to give the pid of my processes running, it gave me like this - user@machineA:/$ ps -eo pid,command | grep exhibitor | grep java | grep -v grep 1615 java -jar ./exhibitor-1.2.3/lib/exhibitor-1.2.3-jar-with-dependencies.jar --fsconfigdir /opt/exhibitor/conf --hostna...

hbdgaf

12:15 AM

anyone know if there's a python ppa so i can get python-3.4 on the double without compiling from source?

Nathan Osman

The dependencies are minimal... are you sure you can't compile from source?

I think all you need is autotools and a C compiler.

Lucio

@hbdgaf hi buddy

hbdgaf

I can for sure. I just didn't want that to be a step for installation instructions.

@Lucio sup bro

Lucio

Oh, you have the eagle hat

hbdgaf

3.4 gives you some awesome magic... like ordered dicts and ctypes.enum. i need the latter which depends on the former.

Lucio

12:24 AM

@hbdgaf order those types on C# sucks

hbdgaf

C# is ... not something I would choose to use.

Lucio

Me neither

In fact, no one should choice C#

hbdgaf

I can't say it sucks, because some awesome shops use it. I just don't like it.

@Lucio sure did

Lucio

The compatibility sucks

You are forced to use the latest VS version and stay in that

hbdgaf

I'm going to neglect to continue commenting on dotnet since it can only take a drastic turn for the worse.

Lucio

12:28 AM

haha, that sounds right

Where should I store a GPG key in a Ubuntu partition?

Or does the gpg tool deal with it

hbdgaf

they're stored in ~/.gpg or similar just a sec

~/.gnupg

Lucio

So if I do gpg --gen-key it should store it there

hbdgaf

correct

Lucio

That is useful :)

hbdgaf

i wouldn't have found it without doing an ls -la | grep pg in my home folder...just saying

i beg for a .gpg softlink to .gnupg

i point of fact i think i cd .g <kbd>tab</kbd> <kbd>tab</kbd> -ed

? everything i touch today breaks. i should sleep soon.

Seth

12:34 AM

HTML tags only work in posts themselves :/

Lucio

Do you know why are there two files, like a ghost file?

paste.ubuntu.com/6597162

hbdgaf

no idea. i like that crypto exists, but i'm not bruce schneier.

Lucio

ROTFL

haha, that was a fast joke xD

hbdgaf

it wasn't a joke. i meant it.

Lucio

It turned into a joke, it was the destiny :P

hbdgaf

12:37 AM

kk

Lucio

@hbdgaf what does that mean?

Braiam

ok

hbdgaf

okay cool.

Lucio

oh

kk

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Q: I saw something in chat I don't understand

What are some of the common chat items? I want to understand what people who are more familiar with other chat clients are trying to say to me.

discussion chat

hbdgaf

so you found it. would you believe it got closed initially?

Lucio

12:39 AM

nop

hbdgaf

well, it did.

Lucio

unbelievable

> IANAL - I am not a lawyer

Who wrote that? I'd never saw that

hbdgaf

it's common.

i think a diff of google or yandrex 'IANAL ... but'(max 3 char gap) and 'IANAL' would be hilarious.

Lucio

12:57 AM

@hbdgaf Sometimes I can't understand a single word of what you say.

This is a good idea:

help.ubuntu.com/community/GPGKeyOnUSBDrive

Unfortunately I don't have a cheap pendrive

hbdgaf

yandrex is like google, but run by russians that know you want to farm data. so they provide a more flexible search. i've wanted for a long time to have a grub sd-card extension by default so i could put a luks key for multiple machines and some other stuff on an sd-card that doesn't extrude from my laptop. then pull it out and put it in my wallet.

Lucio

yep, that is smart

Yandex

Yandex () is a Russian Internet company which operates the largest search engine in Russia with about 60% market share in that country. It also develops a number of Internet-based services and products. Yandex ranked as the 4th largest search engine worldwide, based on information from Comscore.com, with more than 150 million searches per day as of April 2012, and more than 50.5 million visitors (all company's services) daily as of February 2013. The company's mission is to provide answers to any questions users have or think about (explicit or implicit). Yandex also has a very large pr...

hbdgaf

yes yandex. don't know why i threw in an r

Lucio

Yeah, you made me doubt

hbdgaf

probably the same reason i misplace the r in skrillex and call him skillrex all the time.

Lucio

1:04 AM

> Revenue Increase 20.03 billion rub. (2011)[1]

^ that is like 20 US dollars.

hbdgaf

yes, but a russian wife in the us costs like 2k. and an american wife in the us costs like 600k, seems like a comparable exchange rate for usefulness.

stops talking...

Lucio

lol

FEichinger

Sometimes I wonder why I even come here anymore. o.ô

hbdgaf

so ask an ubuntu question?

Lucio

@FEichinger because you saw my avatar -.-

FEichinger

1:06 AM

I did? Where?

hbdgaf

to be fair, this is the base-est the conversation from me has progressed to in like... months

Lucio

10 mins ago, by Lucio

@hbdgaf Sometimes I can't understand a single word of what you say.

Yay!

hbdgaf

Lucio

GPG:

> Invalid character in name

damn..

hbdgaf

it's better than a segfault from unicode parsing problems. just saying. use ascii characters

Lucio

1:17 AM

I'm using the terminal

UTF-8

hbdgaf

? what character pooched it?

Lucio

@

:P

I was using the full NAME LASTNAME <MAIL>

Mateo

Awesome bounty: askubuntu.com/questions/380498/xsnow-does-not-work

hbdgaf

ah. at least they saw the splitting problem...

Lucio

Who can I cancel the process??

hbdgaf

1:19 AM

@Mateo if it does work in xfce and doesn't work in unity, there's nothing i can do about it. i'm not booting in to broken to solve a problem that doesn't exist. even for a bounty...

Lucio

lets close the terminal..

Passphrase, I forget about it

Mateo

hm, working here...

on 12.04...

Lucio

see you guys!

gn

hbdgaf

remember there were pygi things that didn't work for me in python2 that did in python3 on 13.x. just saying. i don't even want to try and attribute it to anything...yet.

works here too

Mateo

sure, hm. so... maybe something in the new unity

hbdgaf

1:32 AM

It works on XFCE, which is what I use. Just letting you know. I'm on 13.10+. — hbdgaf 2 mins ago

Mateo

although, I don't have icons on my desktop... so nautilus is not overlaying...

hbdgaf

that is true too, but xfce uses thunar not nautilus

so it's an invalid argument. not that it's not right, but it's not valid logically.

Mateo

hm, I think their approach is different, but yeah

hbdgaf

i'm trying to find for sure arguments. is there a way to put nautilus as the default manager on xfce?

Mateo

I think you can run it in terminal, and it will overlay, with out much problem

RolandiXor

1:39 AM

hi...

hbdgaf

sure, but that doesn't make it the desktop icon manager. if so, that's the testing step to separate nautilus from unity.

@RolandiXor sup roland

Mateo

I used to run it like that a while back when I liked how it displayed icons on the desktop

RolandiXor

@hbdgaf nm

hbdgaf

@Mateo so you have a testing step that proves it's nautilus not unity?

Mateo

@hbdgaf messes up my kde whenever something opens it... flashes on logout

I'm going to try, hold on

need to turn on icons on my install

hbdgaf

1:42 AM

i don't use desktop icons. i could turn those on and see if it's related too. i can't see that doing it even as an optimization step though.

Mateo

yeah, probably doesn't work the same in xfce

hbdgaf

it's a store a png as the background and use it as a pixbuf to draw from in order to cheat a speed increase or actually poll for a background image type of thing.

Mateo

stoped working when I turned off "have file manager handle the desktop"

hbdgaf

that's fair. just saying i said the same thing about the windows phone benchmarks on their comparatives.

there's cheating on the background image or transparency somewhere

Mateo

blogs.law.harvard.edu/hoanga/2008/02/06/…

would need to test it on my virtual machine, but might do it

hbdgaf

1:51 AM

you might have an answer there...

sounds like cheating on the background image to me. same as suggested. it's just that "everyone does it"

searchfgold6789

Holy crap! Merry Christmas Jorge. askubuntu.com/questions/380498/…

Braiam

@Mateo it kills the desktop icons

> All you KDE-users can now be even happier with a KDE-enabled Xsnow 1.42! The snow will magnificently wipe out your icons, but not to worry, they're not really gone. By wiping with a window or something you can make them reappear. Car owners are used to this for years. Thanks to Robin Hogan (R.J.Hogan@reading.ac.uk) who figured this out for xpenguin.

I'm like 101% sure is nautilus

Mateo

they should totally separate the icons from the background management already...

Andy

Hello Everyone>>>

Braiam

not shown in debian with nautilus managing the desktop

@Mateo 2011 last update -.-

Mateo

1:56 AM

It is kindof like with nitroshare on ubuntu 2d where the widget went behind the wallpaper

hbdgaf

or x11 should have a redraw callback for the window. before applying stuff for desktop call redraw. then add effects. if icons had a way to add to background that was non-pixbuf add you could redraw the background and apply a filter. i think the disconnect is having a separate background/de buffer from render buffer.

Braiam

nope, nautilus is not at fault

hbdgaf

i don't think the widget went behind the wallpaper. i think that one was a compositing being present issue

Andy

Okay so I have a live cd with Fedora 19, and I have a laptop preinstalled with Windows 8. I am trying to boot the laptop from the live cd/dvd, but I can't.
I tried disabling UEFi mode and enabling it but nohting works.

Mateo

@hbdgaf you could bring it back to visible by clicking on it in workspaces... not sure what was happening

searchfgold6789

1:59 AM

@Braiam Well, that was 13 years ago...

Braiam

mm... weird, debian has it only in 64-bits version... wonders why

Mateo

not working kubuntu 12.04

Andy

Anyone???

Braiam

@Andy "Fedora"?

hbdgaf

i'm tired. i need to fix the things i use more and mess with the things i don't use less.

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Andy

2:01 AM

@Braiam I mean it's still a Linux OS, and is very very close to Ubuntu.

hbdgaf

Q: what is the fastest way to become off-topic on a distro driven QA site?
A: use a different distro

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try our friends at UL

RolandiXor

@Andy :)...

This is:

askubuntu.com :)

@Andy no it isn't.

Andy

Okay, thanks guys

Braiam

@Andy RPM vs DEB?

Canonical vs RedHat?

RolandiXor

@Braiam exactly :D

Very same! Much similar! Wow! So Linux!

Andy

2:04 AM

@Braiam I'm not here to argue. I only need some assistance.

RolandiXor

Wow!

@Andy we pointed you to where you can get some assistance with Fedora, but you are welcome to stay for other reasons, of course :)

We are normally very fun and very friendly.

hbdgaf

@Andy Then ask the people that know that topic in chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/26/unix-and-linux

Mateo

/dev/chat

General discussion for unix.stackexchange.com. If you have a q...

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hbdgaf

you're much more likely to get results from people that use a thing than people that don't

Andy

Okay, sorry for taking your time. I apologize for the inconvenience. Bye and have a nice day. @all

RolandiXor

2:06 AM

room topic changed to Ask Ubuntu General Room: General discussion around Ask Ubuntu, Ubuntu & official Ubuntu derivatives. For other Linux distros please see: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/26/unix-and-linux (no tags)

@Andy same to you!

Mateo

hm, works on ubuntu 13.04 in vm, going on to the next

ah, 13.10 broke...

Braiam

for some motive it doesn't work on debian 32-bits and debian only packaged a 64-bit version... and it's non-free???

Journeyman Geek

moo

hbdgaf

super cow powers for @JourneymanGeek?

Mateo

Wouldn't compiz snow be easier?

Journeyman Geek

2:18 AM

lol

hbdgaf

not breaking what used to work would be easiest...

Mateo

:)

Journeyman Geek

I need to revive my old shoebox pc

hbdgaf

just finished watching street kings again. every time i watch it i take away something a little different.

Journeyman Geek

tempted to shove it in a bigger case so I have more room for drives

Mateo

2:19 AM

I like shoeboxes

Journeyman Geek

@Mateo: Its a nice mini itx, but I don't like the fact it uses a custom PSU

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to recognize hostname on the port number 8080 in Ubuntu machine?

I have a very basic question here. This thing is puzzling me a little bit. I have two machines, one is my local desktop running Windows and I have cygwin installed in it and second machine I have is in staging domain in our company which is running Ubuntu 12.04. I started Netflix Exhibitor like...

linux ubuntu configuration

Journeyman Geek

well, not custom

but not atx

Mateo

mh, the mini Itx power supply

hbdgaf

@JourneymanGeek why not? btx cases were always too loud.

Journeyman Geek

2:20 AM

naw, mine looks even smaller and thinner

@hbdgaf: naw, this uses a smaller PSU. The advantage with standard ATX is they are cheap and common

hbdgaf

i'll trade space for normalcy of components all day.

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf: until it breaks.

Mateo

You could get a dc-dc - like a laptop, have a black box outside of the box - spacious on the inside

Journeyman Geek

yeah, considered that

hbdgaf

i mean i want normal components. i want cheap, every day, atx power supplies...

Journeyman Geek

2:22 AM

there's some cases that are a happy medium

hbdgaf

last desktop i ran had two atx power supplies. one for video card and one for everything else. i wouldn't change a thing except losing it.

Journeyman Geek

o0

hbdgaf

why the oO?

Journeyman Geek

if I was building a mini itx box today bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2012/09/14/…

I'd use this

@hbdgaf: using two PSUs is... unusual

shorted the video card one?

Mateo

those fancy cards take alot of power, so either buy a more expensive powersupply or run a seprate for the graphics and buy cheep normal ones,

hbdgaf

2:25 AM

you just jump out or connect the pair of mobo sense cables. there's even an adapter cable for it so you don't have to use paperclips and duct tape...

Journeyman Geek

yeah

in this case I'm basically building a low budget nas

(since grumble the one I want is a bit too expensive for me to be able to afford for now)

hbdgaf

if it's not the one i want, it's not the one i get. i either get it or i don't.

my mobo failed to post with a reasonably powerful psu. so i put the box itself on a weak psu and the vid card on the other psu by itself.

1440 stream processing units and crysis 2 on kill my card ran flawlessly

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf: I'm trying to jerry rig one out of stuff I have first ;p

hbdgaf

it's a thing or it isn't. i'm not a half-measures kind of guy. it causes a LOT of conflict in other aspects of my life as well.

Journeyman Geek

my gaming box is awesome.

hbdgaf

2:31 AM

i don't have one of those.

Mateo

I need to upgrade mine, want to test out steam os

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf: as I see it, I'm trying to fill a need. I have sufficient patience to wait, especially when I realise computers are an expensive hobby ;p

hbdgaf

i had a triple monitor, triple boot, 1440 spu, dual psu monster i built for 350 for the barebones, 300 for the vid card, 300 for the three monitors, 40 for the dispayport adapters. "all the way, or not at all." it's my credo

Journeyman Geek

lol

If I had a job, I'd do that.

wait... 300 dollars for 3 monitors?

thats pretty cheap

hbdgaf

yeah, it was a tiger direct special offer one day sale thing

21 inches each and three identical monitors. i would never do it any other way and have my rig looking all mixed-ghetto

in point of fact it might have been a tad over 300 since it was 3 @ 99 + tax and free shipping.

Journeyman Geek

2:42 AM

hehe

at the moment I have a 21 inch asus, and a laptop

at some point I'll do the same thing

rest of my system is good enough though, core i7, 16gb of ram and a gforce 660

so... I can run games at maximum resolution ;)

hbdgaf

i'm not sure i see myself having a desktop again. like running modern games at all.

Journeyman Geek

I game a fair bit

I also tend to have nice keyboards and mice ;p

hbdgaf

i sort of shifted my focus to fun doesn't matter. electronics should be disposable. hobbies don't exist. put up or shut up. type of thing. i would game, but it provides no measurable benefit. it's fun, but i can't measure that.

Journeyman Geek

my systems need to last at least 5 years

might as well get something that will hold up for that long

hbdgaf

my rig lasted that long. i didn't punish it...much

it was still running until someone lied to me and said they mailed it. then removed the hard drive retaining screws and put it in the mail. then called me from 9 hours of flight away to say -- my bad i lied. then said, but i'm your mother so it's okay for me to lie to you and break your shit intentionally, then said, but i don't understand why you won't talk to me any more.

Journeyman Geek

2:56 AM

o0

hbdgaf

yes. that happened. last year.

Journeyman Geek

my c2d is experiencing some minor issues

but she's still running

funny thing is she's the last system I have that isn't named after a greek/roman goddess

hbdgaf

i think i started my oubliette naming convention before i lost the last desktop.

Journeyman Geek

(right now, I have Athena, Artemis,Nyx, hestia and Cloacina. I used to have a juno as well)

hbdgaf

at this point i don't have any metal i can't fit in a backpack with a week's worth of clothes

Journeyman Geek

3:09 AM

oh

most of those are laptops

nyx is a desktop, and hestia is a raspi

I tend to repurpose our obsolete system for things.

Lucio

@JourneymanGeek ironic hat

Journeyman Geek

;p

I'm in disguise!

Lucio

lol

Mates, come with me! :P

Oh my, RSA 4K keys are long

Seth

3:45 AM

We should all wear one hat over our faces and invade the English room.

Lucio

haha that would be funny

but I don't have an E.SE account

Nathan Osman

4:07 AM

You don't need one.

You can join any chat room you want here.

(Except private ones.)

English Language & Usage: Multi-Layer…

Not for the faint of heart or those easily triggered by Englis...

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2

~~Face covering time...~~ j/k

Lucio

@NathanOsman If I encrypt but no body is there :(

The people there are to formal. They all have the same hats!

:O no misspell

:O no faces D:

Silly spamer

askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/198424

Stop trolling.. — systemovich 27 mins ago

lol

That should be a flag.

CAT POWER!

Nathan Osman

4:29 AM

@Lucio His question is illogical.

Lucio

4:54 AM

@NathanOsman do you know a bit about Cyphers?

OpenSSL offers this variations for Camellia:

-camellia-256-cbc
-camellia-256-cfb
-camellia-256-cfb1
-camellia-256-cfb8
-camellia-256-ecb
-camellia-256-ofb
-camellia256

but what does the chars at the end means?

Nathan Osman

I'm not sure.

I really don't know that much about ciphers, sadly.

It's one of those things I've wanted to learn more about but just haven't had the time.

Lucio

Strangely, everyone on the web use -aes-256-cbc and I bet that most of them doesn't know the difference between that and -aes-256 lonely

@NathanOsman yeah, there are a lot of things in a programmer life that want to learn

But time is against us :)

Nathan Osman

I learned just enough about OpenSSL to be dangerous :P

Lucio

haha

Nathan Osman

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A: Programmatically Create X509 Certificate using OpenSSL

I realize that this is a very late (and long) answer. But considering how well this question seems to rank in search engine results, I figured it might be worth writing a decent answer for. A lot of what you will read below is borrowed from this demo and the OpenSSL docs. The code below applies ...

That's about the extent of it.

Lucio

5:08 AM

wow, that is a long answer

Nathan Osman

It took a long time to write.

Lucio

@NathanOsman Well, you are a hacker on C++

Why do you use -aes-256-cbc instead of -aes-256? What is the difference? — Lucio 2 mins ago

Nathan Osman

Here's what the actual code for creating the certificate looks like:

gist.github.com/nathan-osman/5041136

It's actually not that bad. 148 lines including whitespace.

Lucio

Gists are useful

but easy to forget

Why do you use aes-256-cbc instead of aes-256? What is the difference? — Lucio 1 min ago

Lets wait for an answer 8)

@NathanOsman see you tomorrow

gn

Nathan Osman

Night.

RolandiXor

5:29 AM

'n' day, night 'n' day.

Nathan Osman

5:55 AM

@RolandiXor: o/

Did you hear that the e-books private beta started?

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You can get help with publishing your book now!

RolandiXor

@NathanOsman I didn't know it had launched :D

I haven't checked my mail in almost a week now.

Nathan Osman

I'm over there madly answering questions :P

RolandiXor

Awesome!

I'm in :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: URL with hostname doesn't work but it works with IP Address

I have a very basic question here. This thing is puzzling me a little bit. I have one Ubuntu machine which is running 12.04 and I am connecting to that machine from putty in my desktop (which is running windows). I started Netflix Exhibitor like this in that Ubuntu machine - cronusapp@phx5qa0...

linux ubuntu dns hostname

hbdgaf

6:48 AM

wow...how did I get invited to a chat to help fix something on serverfault? oh well. taking a look.

hbdgaf

7:27 AM

@NathanOsman nice.

hbdgaf

7:37 AM

virtualenv is not compat with manually compiled python-3.4 == pain

hbdgaf

7:51 AM

builds something else from source..

blade19899

9:27 AM

@ThomasW. , He's actually a pretty intelligent guy(he uses Linux), bu,t he just wanted a laugh. I told him i got a mail from amazon(weird ass email adres) and told him about it, jokingly saying should I open the zip file attachment :P?. he kept saying yes. And am like BI**H am on Linux! what can it possibly do to me? The answer is: nothing. nothing. Am on Linux.

What? what? What? what?

blade19899

11:38 AM

Did I scare people off?

Utkarsh

12:37 PM

blade19899

I

got

the

stallman

hat

"The Stallman" awh yeah. I miss my beard ;'/

イオニカビザウ

12:55 PM

I am still searching for a solution for this problem:

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Q: Microphone works, but line in not

I have an interesting issue with Ubuntu. I have a laptop that has one jack for line in/microphone and line out/headphones. This the reason why I bought a spliter like below: Splits one 4 pines jack into two jacks: micrphone and line out I have an external studio microphone and headph...

12.04 sound hardware microphone headphones

I have just tested it on Windows 8 and it works fine...

@Takkat Maybe you come with a good answer..? :-)

I would open a bounty if I would be sure that anyone has the solution. :-)

Takkat

@イオニカビザウ I am sort of out of my wits on that one, sorry.

blade19899

1:20 PM

stackoverflow.com/users/1148529/blade19899?tab=reputation

Got bored so edited almost all the Highest votes questions from stackoverflow :D

stackoverflow.com/questions

prettified the links :P

Rinzwind

1:45 PM

Chuck Yeager - this is a secret hat
Why do I not get to know the secret when I get the hat? :-(

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Which distro should I chose?

Okay I admit, currently I'm a windows user(looser). And now I'm learning node.js, rails so I have to switch to linux. And currently I have two choices. Fedora and Ubuntu. In contrast it looks that it is just difference of opinions. So I just wanted to clarify that is there any differences betwee...