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10:00 AM
ethical value
 
Again, value need not be total value.
@MattЭллен They will stop collecting people's private data?
 
so essentially, what I'm understand is that we should replace all monetary systems with a banana based system. That way you can't hold onto you money, because a banana's value diminishes with age, and you can't trade in freeze dried or frozen bananas. and so value = number of items * bananas per item
also, money would then grow on trees
@Cerberus who knows? It could be a phone based announcement
 
@MattЭллен I see. Very robust.
 
@Cerberus untill some kind of blight erradicates the banana :D
 
@MattЭллен I read somewhere that they weren't going to introduce the Nexus 5 yet, but I don't know.
@MattЭллен But I liked bananae.
Not with brown spots, though.
 
10:06 AM
yeah. there are conflicting stories. some say "they are announcing the nexus 5" others say "they're not announcing the nexus 5"
 
Ah, how confusing.
So the Pietitie had 1.7 million followers yesterday, let's see how many they have now.
 
I think I'll find out tomorrow, after the announcement, what they will have announced
 
1.88 million...
@MattЭллен A very speculative statement.
 
seems to have cooled off a bit, over night
@Cerberus speculate to accumulate (bananas)
 
(I guess the 1.7 million I just saw was not yesterday's number, but the page was refreshed at some point tonight.)
@MattЭллен Options? Futures?
 
10:09 AM
@Cerberus oh no, actual bananas. Speculation is a very ripe game
 
Heh.
Curved bananas, perhaps?
 
trend analysis suggests curved bananas will be worth more than straight bananas, because they're more difficult to forge
 
This is the LG Flex.
I don't get why people would want that, but it is a banana phone.
 
is it fixed in shape, or actually flexible?
 
Fixed.
 
10:12 AM
 
Ring ring indeed.
 
ring rang rung
 
right
righteous
 
I wonder what kind of phone this is...all we know is it's bugged.
 
10:16 AM
such a joyful face
 
That's our Merker!!
She is maybe a bit too passive, but she is wholly decent.
Everybody likes her.
 
Would you be happy happy joy joy if your phone had been tapped one of your close allies?
 
needed somthing to shift that off the screen, sorry
 
10:20 AM
 
4 mins ago, by Matt Эллен
such a joyful face
 
@RegDwigнt Wtf is that about?
Schleichwerbung is always nice.
But that's about the only joke I got.
 
askaway
 
@Cerberus it's a cover of a satirical magazine, Titanic. Very funny, actually, very professional, well respected, and been around forever, though I myself never subscribed.
This is the original cover from the 1990s.
 
You know what's funny? On this site I always read, they have polls. And, whenever they ask about a specific phenomenon, like "if you have Whatsapp and a virus scanner on your phone, did the last update result in a warning?", there will be the options "yes", "no", "I don't have a phone with Whatsapp and a virus scanner, but I didn't want to be left out in this poll".
 
10:27 AM
I think the Merkel cover is an official variation, i. e. they actually used it themselves. 15 years later.
 
I'm afraid I don't understand the significance of a half-peeled cucumber.
Is this about...sex?
And who is Zonen-Gaby?
 
@Cerberus where's the option "I do have a phone with Whatsapp and a virus scanner, but I do want to be left out in this poll"?
@Cerberus just a random, stereotypical East German.
 
There is that option.
It is called "don't click anything".
 
@Cerberus no, stupid doggy. In the GDR they had no bananas. When people came over in 1991 they were excited.
 
@RegDwigнt it's with you, always
 
10:29 AM
@RegDwigнt Ah, I see. So Zonen-Gaby would be a typical Ossie name?
@RegDwigнt Ohh is that what it was about.
 
Gabi, yes. Zonen stands for "Ostzone", "East Zone", a denigrating name for the GDR.
 
that banana looks like a cucumber
 
Ahh I see.
 
@MattЭллен that is the joke.
 
10:30 AM
So it is basically about those poor Ossies thinking they now have bananas.
 
See, Germans are fucking funny, but Brits don't get it, and then they paint over their inferiority by claiming the Germans aren't funny.
 
What do the French do?
 
Titanic is a German monthly satirical magazine based in Frankfurt. It has a circulation of approximately 100,000. History Titanic was founded in 1979 by former contributors and editors of Pardon, a satirical monthly, which the group had left after conflicts with its publisher. (Pardon ceased to exist three years later.) The founding writers and cartoonists of Titanic were mainly based in Frankfurt, and are therefore often called "New Frankfurt School", a tongue-in-cheek reference to the Frankfurt School in philosophy. The heading of Titanic's monthly reviews of humorous publications be...
 
@RegDwigнt Whoa where did that come from?
 
I quickly wrote an entire article.
But now I must prepare for Xblast.
 
10:32 AM
Have fun.
 
See, Germans are funny looking. I thought that was the joke.
 
Yay their faces are so shiny
 
@Cerberus Germans just can't accept that they don't get jokes
 
Indeed.
 
I mean, it's just banter
 
10:35 AM
And nobody else gets their jokes.
 
The joke is how long it took to peel a cucumber to look like a banana
 
How long it took?
 
yeah. just for a joke
 
With blunt East-German knives?
 
indeed. a herculean effort
they must have lived on cucumber stew for weeks afterwards
 
10:47 AM
!!\ hi
 
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
!!/hi
 
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
!!facepalm
 
@MattЭллен Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
10:48 AM
!!commands
 
!! :D
 
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
!!help
 
!!listcommands
 
10:49 AM
@MattЭллен help, listen, eval, coffee, live, die, refresh, forget, ban, unban, info, jquery, choose, user, listcommands, norris, parentuser, urban, parse, tell, mdn, afk, awsm, color, convert, define, findcommand, fuckable, get, github, google, hang, inhistory, learn, mustache, nudge, spec, stat, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, weather, welcome, wiki, xkcd, youtube (page 0/0)
 
!!todo
 
@MattЭллен No items on your todo
 
!!help awsm
 
@MattЭллен awsm: tks a sntnc and trns i awsm
 
!!awsm Hello, that's a fine hat you're wearing
 
10:50 AM
@MattЭллен Hll, tht's a fn ht ur wrng
 
!!/ youtube
 
!!parentuser 6040
 
@MattЭллен Can't find user matt in this chatroom.
 
!!/why
 
10:51 AM
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
!!/ youtube
 
!!/wikipedia
 
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
!!/ define division
 
10:54 AM
@skullpatrol division (uncountable) The act or process of dividing anything.
 
!!/ define KitSox
 
@skullpatrol No definition found.
 
!!/ define why
 
@skullpatrol why For what cause, reason, or purpose.
 
!!wiki skull patrol
 
10:56 AM
@MattЭллен The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing
 
Spammers.
 
!!wiki spammers
 
This is a list of individuals and organizations noteworthy for engaging in bulk electronic spamming, either on their own behalf or on behalf of others. It is not a list of all spammers, only those whose actions have attracted substantial independent attention. * Shane Atkinson, who was named in an interview by The New Zealand Herald as the man behind an operation sending out 100 million emails per day in 2003, who claimed (and appeared) to honor unsubscribe requests, and who claimed to be giving up spamming shortly after the interview. His brother Lance was ordered to pay $2 million to ...
 
!! xkcd
 
10:57 AM
@Cerberus I'm not on that list. I'm not a spammer. QED
 
Says wiki :-)
 
!!wiki hammers
 
A hammer is a tool meant to deliver an impact to an object. The most common uses for hammers are to drive nails, fit parts, forge metal and break apart objects. Hammers are often designed for a specific purpose, and vary in their shape and structure. The term hammer is also used for some devices that are designed to deliver blows, e.g., the caplock mechanism of firearms. The hammer is a basic tool of many professions. The usual features are a handle and a head, with most of the weight in the head. The basic design is hand-operated, but there are also many mechanically operated models...
 
Heh.
 
!!wiki wiki
 
10:58 AM
A wiki ( ) is usually a web application which allows people to add, modify, or delete content in a collaboration with others. Text is usually written using a simplified markup language or a rich-text editor. While a wiki is a type of content management system, it differs from a blog or most other such systems in that the content is created without any defined owner or leader, and wikis have little implicit structure, allowing structure to emerge according to the needs of the users. The encyclopedia project Wikipedia is the most popular wiki on the public web in terms of page view...
 
1.903 million...
 
!!wiki Zwarte Piet
 
Zwarte Piet (, "Black Pete") is the companion of Saint Nicholas (, from which the American term Santa Claus is derived) in the folklore of the Low Countries, whose yearly feast in the Netherlands is usually celebrated on the evening of 5 December (Sinterklaasavond, that is, St. Nicholas' Eve) and 6 December in Belgium, when they distribute sweets and presents to all good children. In other surrounding countries many similar but different characters are the companion of Saint Nicholas. For example in Germany the character is called Knecht Ruprecht (journeyman Ruprecht), and in France the ...
 
@skullpatrol Yup that van looks suspiciously like a wiki to me...
 
!! 1/0
 
10:59 AM
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
!!wiki kontiki
 
@MattЭллен My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
@MattЭллен No definition found.
Kontiki is a peer-assisted content delivery company headquartered in the United States. Kontiki is characterized as peer-assisted because it uses a combination of central servers and peer-to-peer communications. History Kontiki was founded in November 2000. In March, 2006, the company was acquired by VeriSign (now Symantec). Kontiki has always been focused on the enterprise business, but during the VeriSign years, they also had a consumer-focused division, which was responsible for technology integration with products such as the BBC iPlayer. In May 2008, VeriSign, as part of a di...
 
@skullpatrol See?
Ugh, the horrible Iplayer.
 
the iPlayer gives me no problems
 
11:04 AM
It's always...slow, and sometimes buggy.
I haven't used it in a while, though.
 
!!\hang
 
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Maybe you meant: hang
 
Not that the Dutch equivalent is any better.
 
no hangman in this chat

  Hangman room

A room for playing hangman and such.
there's a room for that
 
!!/sorry
 
11:06 AM
@skullpatrol Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
!!/weather Moscow
 
@skullpatrol Moscow: 6.4399C (279.59K), overcast clouds
 
!!weather Oxford
 
@MattЭллен Oxford: 13C (286.15K), broken clouds
 
hmmm. I only get 2 significant figures in my celcius
 
11:08 AM
!!weather weather
 
@skullpatrol Struthers: 33.8305F (1.0169C, 274.167K), overcast clouds
 
!!weather skullpatrol
 
@MattЭллен Are you excited? Maybe you meant: weather
@MattЭллен Sorry, I couldn't get the data: Error: Not found city
 
!!weather Taichung
 
@MattЭллен Taichung: 21.242C (294.392K), Sky is Clear
 
11:09 AM
that sounds good
 
!!weather Matt
 
@skullpatrol [object Event]
 
!!take me to Taichung
 
@MattЭллен Are you excited? Or did you need help with my workings?
 
Wow, a 24" monitor is now only € 114, for an A brand (LG).
 
11:11 AM
nice
I can't think what I paid for my 22"
 
I think I paid € 180 or so for my 24".
 
!!summon 8795
 
@MattЭллен Registered; need 0 more to execute
 
!!refresh
 
@MattЭллен You do not have permission to use the command refresh
 
11:15 AM
@Cerberus my 22" iiyama is currently £120
seems over priced compared to that LG
 
Hmm but it also depends on other things...
My screen, for example, can pivot 90 degrees to portrait mode.
That other LG cannot.
 
mine's pretty much fixed in place
time for lunch!
 
Mine can go up and down, tilt, and pivot.
I love it.
Oh, it seems I paid € 219 for mine.
 
Why is the word "Objective" so important to drill into students?
 
Is it?
 
11:25 AM
Traditionally yes.
 
I see.
Context?
 
Educational psychologists and pedagogues have identified several principles of learning, also referred to as laws of learning, which seem generally applicable to the learning process. These principles have been discovered, tested, and used in practical situations. They provide additional insight into what makes people learn most effectively. Edward Thorndike developed the first three "Laws of learning:" readiness, exercise, and effect. Since Thorndike set down his basic three laws in the early part of the twentieth century, five additional principles have been added: primacy, recency, int...
 
Funny how everything is numbered.
 
yep :-)
 
Hello! :)
could someone take a look at this? ux.stackexchange.com/questions/46295/…
II'm puzzling over, but still can not think of a better idea to do so...
 
11:44 AM
@Candil What's "mercancy"?
Merchandise?
I think "fuel consumption" is better than just "consumption".
Or why not "petrol use"?
Do you mean "cargo type" by this unknown word "mercancy"?
 
Yeah, you're right
Sorry, I don't speak english at all.
obvious those mistakes.
sorry :P
 
That's OK.
 
Hi guys
 
And what do you mean by "country"? Perhaps this is immediately obvious to truck drivers, but not to me: is it the country in which the truck was built? In which it operates? In which the company is located that owns it?
Hi!
 
In which operates. Obvius this too, hehe I simplified the form to focus on the main idea. In the practice it'll be more explicit.
 
11:57 AM
@Cerberus and opportunity cost.
And sunk cost.
 
and the amount of energy required to grow the bananas
 
time costs money
 
And cost of goods and services.
 
and costs of costs
 
And costa del sol
 
11:58 AM
the cost of your soul!
 
the price of your soul
everything has a price
the price is right
 
And pentacostamonger
And Pentecostal evangelists.
 
the value of your soul
 
And ... I'm out. I got nothing.
 
the cost of the lost was embossed on the frost
 
12:04 PM
@Cerberus, so you have any idea to improve it? :)
 
@MattЭллен I had that on my window this morning.
 
@Mitch what a coincidence.
 
the value of the valuable was valued at valueless
 
The cost of the embossing was lost when the frost ...uh .... Melted
 
I'm not going around [your home town] frosting people's windows with the cost of the lost
@Mitch defrosted
 
12:07 PM
Ok I made that up. It was not that cold this morning.
 
I see
clearly now, the frost is gone
 
frost that has no cost is of little value
 
He crossed them and tossed them when sprayed with colostrum
 
@Candil It all depends on whether it will be clear to your intended audience, which I am not.
It may very well be clear to truck drivers.
 
The beestings never restings.
 
12:17 PM
(By the way, is it not possible for them to drive through several countries?)
 
@cerberus well... then I'll delete the post and rewrite it this evening. I'll be more clear. I'll put another example. I put trucks becouse I can't put the real information displayed (customer requirements). I'm only looking for advice about the structure, not the content. Don't know if I explain...
 
 
2 hours later…
2:18 PM
@Candil Good luck!
 
Morning.
 
Good morning, yourself.
Oh, you weren't talking to me.
 
@Cerberus sarcasm or just good roll? :P
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I was so talking to you.
 
@KitFox I was opaque, though.
 
2:30 PM
Also, everyone else.
 
And I thought I was not.
 
@Candil Just serious!
 
Oh, oh, (she said as a matter of gaining attention) sorry, can't talk, I have to send some more information to the place where they want to hire me. Oh dear (she said with her tongue in cheek) I am soooo popular and sought after today. However will I manage?
feigns fatigue
 
@KitFox Good morning. I'll be your everybody else.
 
Good morning!
Man, I feel cheery today! Must be the coffee!
 
2:35 PM
@Robusto Some tips and tricks for the G2: androidauthority.com/lg-g2-tips-and-tricks-278098
 
!!define feigns
 
@Mitch feigns third-person singular simple present indicative form of feign
 
OK fine
!!define feign
 
!!define feign
 
@KitFox feign To make a false copy or version of; to counterfeit.
 
2:36 PM
Jinx!
 
@Mitch feign To make a false copy or version of; to counterfeit.
 
@KitFox steals coffee, a kiss
 
you better give me the same thign.
 
@KitFox Oh! Good idea.
gets coffee
 
hee hee hee hee
 
2:36 PM
@Mitch don't you mean theign?
ducks
 
No I meant thign. theign ithe when you make thenth.
 
Thane?
 
Oct 16 at 23:20, by cornbread ninja 麵包忍者
Thufferin' thuccotath.
 
Thilly perthonth.
 
2:40 PM
The perthon at extenthion thix four thix two is unavailable.
 
Hey! That was me!
In college.
 
So @KitFox, you got an offer or is this for a 2nd interview?
 
Oh shit, that was the more important thing I was doing before I got distracted with this other important thing.
They asked about my coursework. I think that might mean they are looking for ways to increase the offer.
Or maybe they are still deciding, I dunno.
 
Anonymous
2:58 PM
Time for a tough-ass question :)
 
Anonymous
  a
     b
        c
 
Anonymous
In the above example, What do we call those indentations levels in English? For example, I would like to say, " the structure has three levels of 'incursion'? "
 
Anonymous
I am trying to target the indentations names.
How would I describe the pattern of the indentation? first has two spaces, second has four spaces, and third has six spaces.
Som in this example, how can I say the program can read texts from 3 levels of (incursion / indentation ?)
 
we call the indentation indentation
It has 3 levels of indentation
 
Anonymous
I meant, the empty space. They are parallel to each-other. How would you classify them?
 
3:02 PM
indentation
linearly increasing indentation?
incursion is an attack
 
Anonymous
I'm sure, I've heard similar word to that, which means another thing.
 
Anonymous
I can't find it.
 
Anonymous
As usual @Cerberus needs to come to the rescue.
 
Hmm what?
What's wrong with indentation?
 
Anonymous
It does not sound right :)
 
3:06 PM
If you use tabs, you could use 1 tab for the indentation of a, 2 tabs for b, 3 for c.
But indentation is the normal word to describe what I see there, as Matt told you.
 
Anonymous
Specially, for Computer Science term .... I am trying to say, something that says "levels of indentation" in one word. Just like Recursive functions
 
Anonymous
Suppose, you are creating a file reader script. And the script can only read parent(a), child(c), subChild(c) indentation has nothing to do with it. It just reads based on the nesting levels. So, how do you say "the script supports 3 ______" ?
 
levels of nesting
 
Levels of recursion?
 
Anonymous
I am thinking, it supports "3 levels of _____" (unfortunately, still missing one word)
 
Anonymous
3:10 PM
Recursion is the process of repeating items in a self-similar way. For instance, when the surfaces of two mirrors are exactly parallel with each other the nested images that occur are a form of infinite recursion. The term has a variety of meanings specific to a variety of disciplines ranging from linguistics to logic. The most common application of recursion is in mathematics and computer science, in which it refers to a method of defining functions in which the function being defined is applied within its own definition. Specifically this defines an infinite number of instances (func...
 
Anonymous
WOW.
 
I think recursion is often used with computers to describe getting all the items in nested branches.
 
Anonymous
It's weird. I never read of that word, but I can only remember having heard it once, and it was sitting at the back of my mind, with the actual meaning...
 
Anonymous
weirdest experience ever ...
 
Anonymous
3:12 PM
Anyway, I think, recursion is good enough for now.
 
Anonymous
I will have to read more into it though...
 
It would be appropriate in the example you gave.
 
Anonymous
Hmm my, curiosity just led me to check on "Cerberus".. oh, well. I've learned two things today. Good for me :)
 
Anonymous
thanks people
 
Yay!
 
3:24 PM
To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion.
 
3:34 PM
That's how the universe came into being: To exist, you must first exist
 
And God.
This is actually one of the paradoxes by which theologians used to prove the existence of God.
 
clearly they don't understand recusion
if god existed then god would exist
"It's always been wankershim" as they say
 
Yesterday's paper.
 
captain europe!
 
Yay!
The title says "Europe strikes back".
 
3:41 PM
Kinda misrepresenting Europe there, as some champion of not snooping on internet traffic
 
Quite.
Hence the American style of the cartoon.
It's partly ironic.
 
Though also partly serious, as the European Parliament is truly good in this matter, at least the majority. The article is about the new privacy law that the EP voted for yesterday.
 
They stop it happening?
 
Yes, they are trying to.
 
3:43 PM
because I thought the UK had to abide by the European Parliament
 
But the leaders of our countries can still veto it.
 
Or perhaps not veto, perhaps they can vote on it and approve by (qualified?) majority.
Officially the EP cannot make laws; but they can suggest laws, as they have here. (They can, however, veto anything, like ACTA.)
 
I see
veto ACTA? so that was a bill in a country that was stopped by the EP
 
It was a European treaty with America that would have introduced many, many evil things, as usual, like making downloading a song a crime.
 
3:47 PM
I see
 
The funny thing is, it would also have introduced many evil things in America.
The trade delegations in both blocks were trying to bypass both parliaments, as usual.
 
Trade delgation! I should have know. they only ever start wars
 
Just as the secret services do. The NSA spies on Britons for the GCHQ (because the GCHQ aren't allowed to) and the GCHQ spies on Americans for the NSA.
To some degree.
 
yeah it's a bag of spies
 
That is why international coöperation by government agencies always needs to be very, very strictly monitored by elected parliaments.
 
3:52 PM
indeed
time for me to go!
 
And it is also the reason why those same agencies always try to negotiate and strike deals in secret, if possible.
OK bai!
/rant
 
4:24 PM
@MattЭллен bag of hammers
dumber'n a bag o' hair
@Cerberus International cooperation. One hand knows exactly what the other is doing, even before the hand itself does.
 
Quite so.
 
one hand washes the other
a leopard can't change its spots
 
@Mitch numb-er than a hake.
Know what I have a lot of?
Transcripts.
Know what else I have a lot of?
Standardized test scores.
 
You shouldn't take so many clasess or tests.
 
But this time, I've scanned them all into my computer.
 
4:49 PM
@Cerberus That may not be a Faustian bargain, but certainly it strikes me as a Hitchcockian one:
Strangers on a Train is an American psychological crime thriller film produced and directed by Alfred Hitchcock, and based on the 1950 novel of the same name by Patricia Highsmith. It was shot in the autumn of 1950 and released by Warner Bros. on June 30, 1951. The film stars Farley Granger, Ruth Roman, and Robert Walker, and features Leo G. Carroll, Patricia Hitchcock, and Laura Elliott. The film is number 32 on AFI's 100 Years... 100 Thrills. Plot Amateur tennis star Guy Haines (Farley Granger) wants to divorce his vulgar and unfaithful wife Miriam (Laura Elliott), so he can marry the...
@Mahnmax Here’s something that might interest you: Comparative Grammar of the Romance Languages: A Handbook for Exploring Vulgar Latin & the Romance Languages. It’s mostly right in the important places.
 

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