TeX, LaTeX and Friends

12:21 AM

@egreg Oh good idea. :)

12:49 AM

@Werner My mistake entirely. … this is embarrassing XD (I recklessly redefined \maketitle to use \today and not \@date; I swear I've been scratching my head on this for … longer than I'd like to admit :)

David Carlisle

6:15 AM

egreg

9:15 AM

@DavidCarlisle /me envious

David Carlisle

10:10 AM

@egreg it's silver: you have one already

egreg

10:30 AM

@DavidCarlisle Really?

Oh, yes! I got it on 15 february. :P

tohecz

12:00 PM

You gotta love when you use a command thinking "and I have to define it". You forget and translate. Et voilà! It exists and it does exactly what you want :)

egreg

12:27 PM

@tohecz What command? :)

tohecz

@egreg \xmapsto. I was aware of \xrightarrow only :)

egreg

@tohecz It's in mathtools

tohecz

@egreg well, obviously :p

Dominic Michaelis

2:43 PM

hello

egreg

@DominicMichaelis Hi!

Dominic Michaelis

\documentclass{article}
\renewcommand{\thesection}{\arabic{section}.foofoo}
\begin{document}
\tableofcontents
\section{foo}
\section{foofoo}

\end{document}

how can I make having more space in the table of content ?

egreg

@DominicMichaelis Use tocloft

Dominic Michaelis

@egreg how exactly ?

egreg

@DominicMichaelis Fix without tocloft:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{xpatch}
\makeatletter
\xpatchcmd{\l@section}{1.5em}{3em}{}{}
\makeatother
\renewcommand{\thesection}{\arabic{section}.foofoo}
\begin{document}
\tableofcontents
\section{foo}
\section{foofoo}

\end{document}

Adjust 3em to suit

Fix with tocloft

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tocloft}
\setlength{\cftsecnumwidth}{5em}
\renewcommand{\thesection}{\arabic{section}.foofoo}
\begin{document}
\tableofcontents
\section{foo}
\section{foofoo}

\end{document}

Dominic Michaelis

3:00 PM

@egreg oh thanks a lot

Forkrul Assail

3:16 PM

I have the following packages in my various documents (included in this order).

\usepackage{framed}
\usepackage{alltt} % marginals=raggedouter for right aligned sidenotes
\IfFileExists{bergamo.sty}{\usepackage[osf]{bergamo}}{}% Bembo
\IfFileExists{chantill.sty}{\usepackage{chantill}}{}% Gill Sans
\usepackage{microtype}
\usepackage{booktabs}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{fancyvrb}
\usepackage{xspace}
\usepackage{units}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\IfFileExists{upquote.sty}{\usepackage{upquote}}{}
\usepackage{breakurl}
\usepackage{listings}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{caption}

it now tells me that I have an option clash with xcolor (todonotes), any ideas on how I would resolve this?

most probably something to do with load order from what I can gather online

egreg

3:34 PM

@ForkrulAssail Try and see which package loads xcolor

Forkrul Assail

do I grep the .sty files for that?

or is there a dependency check type command I can use @egreg?

egreg

@ForkrulAssail Just look in the log file

You should find xcolor before the error, so you'll see when it has been loaded

Forkrul Assail

That's 4k lines... ah ok. Let me see

David Carlisle

@ForkrulAssail you could try typing h to the prompt and doing what it suggests

Forkrul Assail

And when I find this I change load order?

h at the prompt @Da

@DavidCarlisle

I'm using a knitr, rubber compile chain currently

but let me see what I can find

David Carlisle

3:39 PM

:11076273

! LaTeX Error: Option clash for package xcolor.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
 ...

l.5 \begin
          {document}
? h
The package xcolor has already been loaded with options:
  [dvips]
There has now been an attempt to load it with options
  [pdftex]
Adding the global options:
  dvips,pdftex
to your \documentclass declaration may fix this.
Try typing  <return>  to proceed.

@ForkrulAssail moderators sorry I just flaggedt that by accident:-)

Forkrul Assail

I get

Adding the global options:
'usenames,dvipsnames,svgnames'
to your \documentclass declaration may fix this.

but then adding those to my document class doesn't change anything

David Carlisle

@ForkrulAssail well sometimes doing what it says works (not always:-)

Forkrul Assail

:)

I've noticed

Is the problem here that multiple packages try to load other packages with different options?

egreg

@ForkrulAssail What are the options you give to \documentclass?

Forkrul Assail

@egreg \documentclass[usenames, dvipsnames, svgnames, silent, x11names, justified, twoside]{tufte-book}

the first four I included this afternoon trying to fix this error

egreg

3:44 PM

@ForkrulAssail The problem is in dvips which shouldn't be loaded if you use pdflatex

Forkrul Assail

@egreg, that makes sense, I assume it's for when you do dvi output.

removed that, still have the same error

egreg

@ForkrulAssail Can you show a complete preamble producing the error?

Forkrul Assail

@egreg, that's everything prior to mainmatter?

egreg

@ForkrulAssail Everything before \begin{document}

But just up to the last \usepackage should suffice

Forkrul Assail

@egreg, let me check, the tufte-class loads tufte-common-local and tufte-common as well at some point.

would the \includes suffice, or you need everything?

sorry, I mean the \usepackages

David Carlisle

3:51 PM

@ForkrulAssail yes but if you load the package first with the combined set it usually works, latex assumes it's ok to have a later usepackage with less options and ignores it

Forkrul Assail

I see @DavidCarlisle, thanks just trying to figure out what's conking out here.

David Carlisle

so try adding \usepackage[usenames, dvipsnames, svgnames]{xcolor} as the first package loaded

Forkrul Assail

I see, so the more comprehensive 'at first' the better. Thanks, let me try that

@DavidCarlisle, still getting the same error, let me compile a preamble like egreg suggested.

David Carlisle

@ForkrulAssail yes because the class already loaded it, put \RequirePackage[usenames,dvipsnames,svgnames]{xcolor} before documentclass

Forkrul Assail

@DavidCarlisle, now it's just telling me it's clashing with pgfcore instead of todonotes.

and it's added some 'undefined color' errors

David Carlisle

4:05 PM

@ForkrulAssail hmm that sounds wrong:-) (or perhaps I should use :(

Forkrul Assail

let me upload that preamble - I hope it's not stored here for posterity :)

egreg

@ForkrulAssail If I use the tufte-book class and todonotes, I have no error. By the way, tufte-common.def loads xcolor with the options usenames,dvipsnames,svgnames; so adding those is useless.

Forkrul Assail

ok, so they're unnecessary, thanks.

Can i just post the \usepackage lines @egreg ? Otherwise there is a lot of heading cruft that'll come with

egreg

@ForkrulAssail Yes, only those (and the \documentclass, of course)

Forkrul Assail

\documentclass[x11names, justified, twoside]{tufte-book}
\usepackage{framed}
\usepackage{alltt} % marginals=raggedouter for right aligned sidenotes
\usepackage{microtype}
\usepackage{booktabs}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{fancyvrb}
\usepackage{xspace}
\usepackage{units}
\usepackage{makeidx}
\usepackage{breakurl}
\usepackage{listings}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage{caption}
\usepackage[yyyymmdd,hhmmss]{datetime}
\usepackage{soul}
\usepackage[acronym]{glossaries}
\usepackage{tocbibind}

I've already removed all duplicates I could find, and tried reordering via some suggestions on the site

I placed all my additions in tufte-common-local.tex as suggested in the documentation

egreg

4:11 PM

@ForkrulAssail I get no option clash

Forkrul Assail

I still get: compiling thesis.tex...
/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgfcore.sty:14: Option clash for package xcolor.
/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/todonotes/todonotes.sty:31: Option clash for package xcolor.
/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/todonotes/todonotes.sty:31: leading text: \RequirePackage
thesis.tex:821: Paragraph ended before \@citex was complete.
thesis.tex:870: Paragraph ended before \@citex was complete.
thesis.tex:1158: Package xcolor Error: Undefined color `Green3'.

Anything else I can look at?

Thanks for the help btw, really appreciate it, would love to return to my R code, if I can figure this out.

egreg

@ForkrulAssail Those are PGF or TikZ related and you don't have them in the preamble you've shown.

David Carlisle

@egreg I get no clash either (but maybe pgf changed at 2013?)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I tried with 2012 and again it doesn't show any problem

David Carlisle

@egreg well we could just blame it on user error then:-)

Forkrul Assail

4:18 PM

pebkac!

@egreg, so the load sequence would include my thesis.Rnw, the tufte-common and tufte-common-local.tex?

egreg

@ForkrulAssail I don't know about R and knitr, sorry.

Forkrul Assail

when i do -> cat ./thesis.Rnw ./tufte-common-local.tex ./tufte-common.tex | grep '\usepackage'

I get:

%\usepackage[]{graphicx}
%\usepackage[]{xcolor}
\usepackage{framed}
\usepackage{alltt} % marginals=raggedouter for right aligned sidenotes
\IfFileExists{bergamo.sty}{\usepackage[osf]{bergamo}}{}% Bembo
\IfFileExists{chantill.sty}{\usepackage{chantill}}{}% Gill Sans
\usepackage{microtype}
\usepackage{booktabs}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{fancyvrb}
\usepackage{xspace}
\usepackage{units}
\usepackage{makeidx}

As far as I knitr doesn't affect this currently as I have those sections commented out in it's respective chapter.

+know

there is also a

David Carlisle

Actually for colour I can't see how putting \RequirePackage[...]{xcolor} before \documentclass can fail to fix an option clash. Also you have anyway the option of simply ignoring the error, all that happens is the package isn't loaded the second time. Your error with \cite is less ignorable

Forkrul Assail

\usetikzlibrary{decorations.pathmorphing, calc, arrows}
that I didn't catch with my grep there, if that was the error @egreg might've mentioned.

David Carlisle

@egreg can you explain this: looks like i'm rep capped as I get no points for the last upvote but it's showing 200 not 230?

tex.stackexchange.com/users/1090/david-carlisle?tab=reputation

egreg

4:28 PM

@DavidCarlisle You aren't rep capped; the vote without points is to a CW answer

David Carlisle

@egreg oh I keep forgetting about those :-)

@egreg so I can go and answer some tikz questions for another 30 then!

Forkrul Assail

Thanks for the help @egreg, and @DavidCarlisle, I'll look at this with fresh eyes in the morning :)

Kurt

Can someone explain me why my anser to the question is not worth to be updated?

4

Q: How to add a photo to moderncv style banking

I'm writing this post because I'm trying to let appear the photo on the moderncv using the banking style, but from default isn't possible. So I would to know how to show the photo using the banking style and possibly putting the photo at the top of the first page above the name and title.

egreg

@Kurt Scaring? ;-)

Kurt

4:59 PM

@egreg No, i really just want to understand, because I implicitly said not to edit an original file, how to search for the code (if possible) and to solve the problem. I see that my answer is not so short than the other but is that all?

Christian

6:14 PM

Oh great, I get a "Float(s) lost" when compiling in draft mode but not otherwise. This will be a fun one to track down :(

tohecz

@Christian The problem is that the [draft]{graphicx} option is not exactly preserving the size of the image.

Christian

@tohecz Ok ... but I didn't include any new \includegraphics since the last time it compiled fine in draft mode.

Just some \verb and \lstinline stuff.

tohecz

@Christian yep, but still, page-breaking algorithm suffers the butterfly effect and one line changes the whole document :-/

Christian

great.

tohecz

try to set \renewcommand{\topfraction}{0.9} for the draft mode, the question is: What do you need draft for?

Christian

6:23 PM

@tohecz I need draft mode because even with \includeonly my document takes aaaaaageeeeees to build without it.

But I'm doing some other dirty stuff in draft I have to admit.

like disabling the todonotes annotations

and excluding the references

tohecz

@Christian ok, then I get it. Because some things the draft mode changes can be achieved without draft

you can try [demo]{graphicx} as well, which replaces all graphics by a square, however, the size is not preserved

Christian

the topfraction trick doesn't work unfortunately

demo doesn't work either :/

so maybe it's not the fault of graphicx after all

David Carlisle

@Christian there's never any problem with my packages (what was the issue?, just stopped by and saw that comment:-)

Christian

lol

@DavidCarlisle Any package you didn't write BTW? ;)

good you found that Knuth guy to do some of the programming work for you I guess ;)

Man, this sucks.

I see nothing in the git diff that looks suspicious and I commented out all of my major changes, including all the \lstinline and \verb stuff but to no avail.

I'd let it be for now and just don't use draft mode but it won't become easier to track down this bug I guess and I don't want to break draft mode forever for this document.

plus there might be an actual problem with my code that bites me later on even in final

David Carlisle

6:49 PM

@Christian I don't think I wrote tikz, but I might have done.

Christian

lol

wouldn't you remember that? ;)

David Carlisle

@Christian not always. some one emailed me not so long ago asking for help with some package I didn't recognise at all, I sent back a terse message "why ask me" and he replied that it had my name at the top (oops:-) It turns out it had a pre-internet JANET email address so it was a bit old:-) but he'd tracked me down anyway.

Christian

rofl

oh come on

this really seems to be some page breaking madness or something

I can comment out more or less random paragraphs to fix the problem

as long as I comment out enough of them

David Carlisle

@Christian if I scroll up will I see what the issue is?

Christian

yes

David Carlisle

6:59 PM

Oh great, I get a "Float(s) lost" when compiling in draft mode that could happen:-)

Christian

@David what do you mean by "that could happen"?

adding some \lipsums also makes the error go away

David Carlisle

@Christian well I wrote "that can't happen" (which is wrong) so I changed it

@Christian yes of course adding a , could change it

@Christian you could load morefloats which doubles the number of floats latex handles but the real issue is why are you stacking up so many pending floats?

Christian

I'm not ... not that I know of at least

and why should I only stack up those floats in draft mode?

yeah, morefloats also fixes the issue

David Carlisle

@Christian draft mode isn't the issue other than it changes the size a bit, as I say adding a , could change it, it's an arbitrary change to the page breaks which means latex chooses not to place any floats and holds them back until it runs out of allocated registers to hold them in

Christian

thanks ... I will go hunting where those floats are stacked up

David Carlisle

7:05 PM

@Christian avoids it for a bit longer rather than fix, but that may be enough:-)

@Christian do you have a run of figure with no intervening text?

Christian

there are two floats before the one that causes the error

that can hardly be too many, can it?

David Carlisle

@Christian remember latex keeps them in order so if you have a float that can't be positioned eg you say \begin{figure}[t] but it is bigger than topfraction then it will take all following figures with it, so if you have more than 16 (or 32 with morefloats) figures after that you die

Christian

directly after the one that gets dumped there is my \picturepage stuff

3

Q: Dedicated pages for figures featuring automatic fit-to-page scaling and automatic portrait/landscape selection

There are some books where you have a couple of pages that contain only a picture with no footer, header or anything like that. I wanted to have something similar although I'd like to keep a uniform margin, the aspect ratio of the image and a caption. I also wanted the page to rotate using pdflsc...

graphics floats header-footer rotating

David Carlisle

The important thing to remember is it's not my fault

Christian

I'm going to check if that might be the culprit

lol

@David but shouldn't these 16 or whatever floats be coming one after the other in the final PDF (the one I successfully get with morefloats)?

David Carlisle

7:10 PM

@Christian not a package I know

Christian

no, stuff I wrote myself

turned out to be beyond my guru level so it regularly bites me

the task looked innocuous ... :/

David Carlisle

well no :latex gives up it has more floats than it can handle. But probably because of a bad definition somewhere. specifically it wants to flush floats it does `\clearpage` but then it finds it still has unset floats this can't happen and apeart from clearpage it has no way of flushing floats so it does ` \@latexerr{Float(s) lost}\@ehb
\global \let \@currlist \@empty
` which means it issues the error and then force clears its list of pending floats, discarding what was there.

Christian

yeah, removing the \picturepage directly afterwards also make the error go away

David Carlisle

5 mins ago, by David Carlisle

The important thing to remember is it's not my fault

Christian

yeah, \picturepage does a \clearpage

@David yeah yeah, I got it ;)

David Carlisle

7:15 PM

@Christian thing is, it seems to do a \clearpage that hasn't worked (and has left floats in its internal list)

Christian

I can do a \clearpage on its own instead of the \picturepage stuff though ...

@DavidCarlisle I didn't get that explanation :/

David Carlisle

@Christian is the clearpage in some group or box or ....

Christian

How could it happen that latex does a \clearpage and still has unset floats?

David Carlisle

@Christian the format isn't good for explaining the latex output routine, sorry:-)

Christian

@DavidCarlisle yeah, it's in an \afterpage for one thing ...

David Carlisle

7:18 PM

@Christian it can't happen. unless someone redefined something, that's why latex gives up and discards the floats with no real attempt at recovery.

Christian

I see

sort of

yep, \afterpage{\clearpage} kills it

David Carlisle

@Christian as previously stated that can't be the problem:-) (actually it could be afterpage is a bit fragile, I never thought anyone would use it)

Christian

lol

\afterpage{\clearpage} is brilliant but seems to be causing all sorts of problems for me

sorry about that ;)

David Carlisle

@Christian thing is it inserts \clearpage somewhere but if you have packages making special sorts of pages (or that have modified the output routine at all) it might not be inserted in a good place.

Christian

\afterpage{\clearpage} is the only way I found to have a kind of "floating page" or "fullpage float" or however you want to call it

as I said, that picture page thing looked harmless enough but turned out to be really hard to do ... at least with my limited skill level

David Carlisle

7:22 PM

@Christian well if it's only one page you can do \begin{figure}[p] but yes \afterpage{\clearpage} can be useful for inserting longer stuff (longtable etc)

Christian

@DavidCarlisle IIRC the problem with \begin{figure}[p] was that you can't do the pdflscape stuff inside the figure environment

David Carlisle

if morefloats fixes things perhaps that's that (it is a trivial package actually, if you run out again you could just make a package that gave you as many as needed)

Christian

the problem with that picture page stuff was that of the n features I wanted, any n-1 were trivial

David Carlisle

@Christian not but you can rotate the content of the figure eg use sidewaysfigure from rotating package

@Christian welcome to TeX programming

Christian

@DavidCarlisle but that won't give me the needly rotated view in most PDF readers

@DavidCarlisle yeah, thanks ... ;)

pdflscape is a great package but it causes all kinds of things to fail that you'd normally use to accomplish what I wanted to do

David Carlisle

7:27 PM

@Christian ah that's why you are using Heiko's version not my lscape:-)

Christian

as I said, n-1 ...

lol

your lscape didn't cut it for me ;)

maybe you want to add that pdf magic to your version of lscape then I can use that ;)

David Carlisle

@Christian unfair really that I didn't add the pdf viewer rotate, since the package is older than the pdf format

Christian

@DavidCarlisle oh come on, your last update to the package is from 2000 and PDF was first published in 1993 ;)

David Carlisle

@Christian oh updates are only for really unexpected features the package itself was for latex2.09 originally so 1990 or so I'd guess (not sure I kept the dates going into the 2e version) (at least I think it was, it says 1994, which woul d be 2e, but I thought It's older than that, perhaps not:-)

Christian

@DavidCarlisle heh alright, I'm sure you wrote your first package on punchcards :)

David Carlisle

7:35 PM

@Christian I definitely wrote my first computer programs on punched cards.

Christian

I really can't imagine how that must have been like. Having to use ed to bootstrap a Linux system drove me mad already.

David Carlisle

@Christian for the first year or so it was tricky, then they got some new card punches that also had ink and printed the letters at the top of the card, which made it easier to read your program without having to decode the holes

Christian

@DavidCarlisle You're kidding me, right?

David Carlisle

@Christian no

Christian

what did you do when you stumbled and spread your cards all over the room?

heard this was a dreaded scenario even with the cards where you could actually read what was encoded on the card

David Carlisle

7:42 PM

@Christian I once dropped a whole box and spent some evenings at home decoding them by hand and putting them in order, we only had access one afternoon a week so I had time before the next chance to get them in place (I was at school but the local polytechnic allowed us to go in one day a week)

Christian

@DavidCarlisle Wow.

did you think for a while that it might be easier to just write the thing again instead of sorting the cards?

BTW, I didn't change anything but the bug now also occurs with morefloats ... I just gave up and removed the \afterpage from my \picturepage definition.

David Carlisle

@Christian well no as I could sort them at home, but to redo I'd have to wait to the next visit and then retype it (and my typing is pretty bad even now when I can see what I'm typing:-)

Christian

so now I will have immediate page breaks wherever I put \picturepage which is really ugly

David Carlisle

@Christian not surprised really as I say morefloats is usually a sign that something else is wrong

Christian

but at least the compilation problems are gone

David Carlisle

7:45 PM

@Christian if you can make a mwe on site I might look (not today)

Christian

@DavidCarlisle I seriously doubt I can make a MWE

but thanks

saadtaame

Hello guys, what's a good template for CV's in latex?

Christian

@saadtaame moderncv is pretty much standard

saadtaame

@Christian a link please

Christian

I didn't like it, spend way too much time trying to find a better one (there are tons out there) and then fell back to it

modified the look a bit though

David Carlisle

7:47 PM

@saadtaame moderncv seems to be what people use (lots of examples on the main site) or one of latextemplates.com/cat/curricula-vitae

saadtaame

@Christian How come that moderncv you wrote is in a different font?

Christian

@saadtaame uhm, it's been a while since I last did this and it's a bit mean but: lmgtfy.com/?q=moderncv

@saadtaame on this site, package names and code are usually put in backquotes

that will change the appearance

Ok, I'll get back to producing content instead of wrestling with LaTeX.

@DavidCarlisle Thanks for all the help!

and the insights into the good old days :)

David Carlisle

@Christian Just remember egreg's even older than me:-)

Christian

@DavidCarlisle I'll have to ask him if his motor memory still remembers the finger position to input octal numbers as bit patterns ;)

Alyosha

This is probably the wrong place to ask, but is there a way to render latex on the internet (that is, not sites which have such a system incorporated into them). I was using checkmyworking.com/misc/mathjax-bookmarklet, but it stopped working.

David Carlisle

8:01 PM

@Alyosha not sure what you mean, you can of course process latex to make pdf and put that on the web, your link goes to something mathjax related which is a rather different thing, processing a latex-like syntax in javascript mathjax is at mathjax.org

Alyosha

8:15 PM

@DavidCarlisle Thanks. I'm having trouble installing mathjax, I'll try again later.

David Carlisle

@Alyosha mostly people don't install mathjax just use it off mathjax cdn server, so all you have to do is add one line to your file

@Alyosha eg

<script type='text/javascript' src='http://cdn.mathjax.org/mathjax/latest/MathJax.js?config=TeX-AMS-MML_HTMLorMML'></script>

Forkrul Assail

8:57 PM

Hi @DavidCarlisle, found the citex glitch from earlier, think I by mistake hit a shortcut in emacs, as it wrapped a Sexpr with citep. You were right, Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, pebkac.

David Carlisle

@ForkrulAssail since you are an emacs user, you are forgiven (vim users are shown no mercy)

Forkrul Assail

hahaha, thanks. I must admit though, I'm only a 3 week old newbie

And I need a zen master that hits me with a stick every time I reach for the mouch... now and again.

but I'm getting there

can't wait to have time to dive into org-mode when I'm done with this article

what modes would you recommend?

David Carlisle

@ForkrulAssail I've used emacs more or less every day since 1987, it makes making objective editor comparisons difficult:-)

Forkrul Assail

Then I'll hand you the stick :)

leo

hi there!

Forkrul Assail

9:00 PM

@DavidCarlisle, any tips, besides the obvious, map CapsLock to Ctrl etc?

leo

I need to do something for all TEX files in a folder, except for a single one and I'm using Ubuntu, do you know how to?

David Carlisle

@ForkrulAssail I don't really use latex at all these days (apart from playing here for old times sake) for xml work (ie what I really do ) I use the wonderful nxml-mode, for latex stuff I use auctex but don't really customise emacs as much as I used to

Forkrul Assail

@leo, do you want a bulk compile, or do you want to search through them?

leo

specifically, I have to do pdflatex -shell-escape for all but one file

David Carlisle

for i in *.tex; do if [$i==xxx.tex] then echo skip else pdflatex $i; done

@leo with some linebreaks inserted so it works

Forkrul Assail

9:03 PM

@DavidCarlisle, I'm still finding my way around - stuff like bulk line commenting and uncommenting I still find less intuitive than TeXMaker that I spent the last 18 months in.

David Carlisle

@ForkrulAssail M-x comment-region usually comments in whatever language you are using at the time

leo

@DavidCarlisle I'll try. Thanks :-)

Forkrul Assail

Ah, so that's generic, thanks

still need to find my way around ESS as well

so many new things to learn

David Carlisle

@leo the if is missing a fi terminator in the above

Forkrul Assail

spent a week figuring out knitr, this last week, and pretty happy that my datasets get processed inside my tex doc.

leo

9:19 PM

@DavidCarlisle do you mean for i in *.tex; do if [$i==xxx.tex] then echo skip else pdflatex $i; done fi?

David Carlisle

10:32 PM

@leo no the fi needs to be inside the loop before done and you'll need some newlines or ; around then

leo

@DavidCarlisle how does looks:

for i in *.tex;
do
	if [$i == comandos.tex]
		then echo "skip"
	else
		pdflatex -shell-escape $i;
	fi
done

comandos.tex is the file that must be avoided

David Carlisle

this one is tested:

for i in *.tex; do if [ $i = b.tex ]; then echo skip b; else pdflatex $i; fi; done

@leo = not == (I think: equality testing in bash always a black art:-)

leo

@DavidCarlisle I see. Let me try

David Carlisle

@leo of course simpler version is

mv comandos.tex comandos.tex-
for i in *.tex do pdflatex $i; done
mv comandos.tex- comandos.tex

leo

@DavidCarlisle it works :-)

@DavidCarlisle And how does works this one?

what does the mv comandos.tex- comandos.tex

oh renames it!

David Carlisle

11:05 PM

@SamWhited one thing which often catches me out is its inconsistency between newline and ; if doing multi-line you can linebreak after do but you can't put a ; there, so when making it all one line to post here I often screw up (that and the fact the formatting eats backticks:-)

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