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3:00 PM
@RegDwight Ask and ye shall receive.
 
Kit
@Martha Agh! The cuteness is unbearable!
 
@Robusto Sure thing; I go in a house pretending to walk while I am sleeping, I take the ice cream, and I return back to my home.
 
@Kit <very evil grin>
 
I should remember where I took the vanilla ice cream the last time; that is the hardest part.
 
@Robusto Hear that, @balpha?
 
3:04 PM
There's an even cuter picture of her sitting in her mommy's lap completely nekkid, no diaper even, but I decided against posting it because (1) her mommy probably would object, and (2) see above about completely nekkid. (It was very warm in the reception hall last Saturday.)
 
(For the incognoscenti, balpha enjoys being pinged about random unidentifiable problems.)
Oh noes, @jcolebrand, how am I supposed to remember your new name?
 
@Martha — Awww, @Martha. You should learn never to play the baby card first. Save it for when you really want to hijack a conversation.
 
So, am I typical in my use of “Haha,” “hahahaha,” “LOL,” and “:)”?
 
@Robusto Well, by RegDwight's logic, neither you, Kiamlaluno, nor RegDwight himself are men. Or Vitaly.
 
@Vitaly You forgot "Ha!"
 
3:08 PM
@kiamlaluno — I rarely use that if ever.
 
@RegDwight I still do, yes.
 
@Martha — Funny, but the term "@RegDwight's logic" is an oxymoron.
 
guess what I'm doing right now :)
 
@Martha Sorry that I absolutely had to ping a dev about a bug. Mod duties first, gender second.
 
@Vitaly OK, that is fair enough.
 
3:12 PM
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Q: What's the difference between an innuendo and a euphamism?

billynomatesAs the title says, really. Is there even a difference?

 
@RegDwight Aye, I know. Alas, wait until I change my avi as well ;)
 
@balpha — Uh, does it involve a goat? Because our goat has gone missing suddenly.
 
@jcolebrand Just don't use a kanji or a hanzi. Pretty please.)))
 
Wait, so what was jcolebrand's previous handle?
 
Egads no. Just a slightly more professional looking pic is all. First I need to go get beautified at my barber.
@Martha drachenstern
@balpha migrating a C# app to javascript so you guys can run on node.js?
 
3:14 PM
@jcolebrand Ah, danke. Why the change?
 
ooooh, wrong room ;)
 
May 13 at 21:11, by Vitaly
 
@Martha professionalism for one. Also cos I'm tired of people asking how to spell my email address, or not being able to read my name in chat.
 
@jcolebrand This room is never wrong. Look at the official description.
 
also my new websites, http://jcolebrand.{com|org|net|info|us|biz}
 
3:15 PM
@jcolebrand — C# is The Language That Must Not Be Named in EL&U chat.
 
@Robusto well @RegDwight just spoke differently, aye?
 
@jcolebrand hmm... In a way, that idea isn't actually that bad
 
We usually refer to it simply as "that language" or "the StackOverflow language" here.
 
@Robusto — Haha.
 
so on this server, that I'm never really on, I'm the 42nd most active chatter, I'm the third most on meta, and the ninth most on chat.SO... and my wife wonders what I do during the day :p -- corrected ;)
@balpha I know, I'm actually in the process of writing my own webservice there, but I'm shying away from using lots of pre-built middlewares, as I want to be able to handle more than 600 requests per sec ;)
 
3:18 PM
TL;DR
 
@Martha and that actually hints at a third reason for me to move off the German handle ;) I don't really speak German anymore. So having an actual German nick on a website that handles Deutscher, that could be baaaaad ;)
 
@Vitaly — The real meaning of ;) and :) is "Please don't hit me."
 
anyone speak french here?
 
Non.
 
merde
 
3:20 PM
@JSBangs Oui, almost certainly. However, finding said person will be tricky.
 
Kit
Pourquoi?
 
Pourquoi?
Jinx.
 
i want to confirm something about french pronunciation
 
@Robusto — As in here?
11 mins ago, by balpha
guess what I'm doing right now :)
 
Qu'est-ce que tu veux ?
 
3:20 PM
@Vitaly Especially that.
 
Ah !
Alors ?
 
@Robusto — Makes sense!
 
Kit
You could always summon @Alain Pannetier. He's French, yes?
 
@JSBangs Ping @Jez, too.
And of course @btfx
 
ok, so dans cette page is in speech something close to [dãstpaʒ], right?
 
3:22 PM
Hm. You swallow cette like that?
 
mostly i'm wondering if i'm correct in thinking that the vowel in cette goes away
@RegDwight jinx
 
Kit
@JSBangs I don't, but I'm not a native speaker.
 
I would actually stress it. But I'm a pineapple.
In fact, I would probably pronounce cette with two syllables here.
 
i don't think i even know enough french to qualify as a pineapple
 
Kit
@RegDwight I wouldn't use two syllables. No vowel to elide.
 
3:24 PM
Well, when I say two I actually mean some 1¼.
 
all i know is that french constantly surprises me with which vowels are pronounced and which aren't
 
@JSBangs — It is impossible to confirm anything about French pronunciation. For that, you would have to ask a Frenchman (or woman) and he/she will disagree with however you pronounce it.
 
Je suis un ananas.
 
There's a veeeeery slight hint of a schwa at the end when I pronounce it.
 
/lurks
 
Kit
3:24 PM
@RegDwight Yeah, maybe bring out the "t" in a hard way.
 
See, this is why I refuse to learn French. :)
 
@Martha me too! i hate the french language with a passion. but i have need to know at the moment...
 
@z7sg ananas in French would have to be asanan.
 
Could we please nuke it with fire close it as general reference?
 
@RegDwight — You misspelled asinine.
 
3:26 PM
@Martha: you know I'm no fan of that close reason, so more close votes from others wouldn't hurt.
 
@Martha — I'll vote to close if you ease up on the baby pix.
 
Actually, that reminds me: I am seeing more and more questions getting closed by the community these days. As in, without mod intervention.
I am a happy panda.
 
hooray for the community
but @Reg, surely you know that pandas are canonically sad
@Martha what's the markdown for strikeout?
 
@Robusto What do you think this is, a negotiation?
 
Apr 30 at 1:11, by Robusto
user image
 
3:29 PM
@JSBangs <s></s>, but it didn't work the first time, until somebody with Powers(TM) edited it. So I'm not sure.
 
@JSBangs — <strike></strike> but it doesn't work in chat.
 
---bla---
 
go to hell thanks
 
no problem
 
(i'm still giggling every time i see @Kit's starred comment about The Prince)
 
Kit
3:31 PM
Wait, which was it? This or <strike>that</strike>?
I see. Never mind.
 
--- works.
 
You see, only <russian-first-strike> works in this chat.
 
Orly?
 
But that's a bit of a mouthful. Hence the shorthand ---.
 
@RegDwight —
15 hours ago, by Robusto
I'll pick a Czar. In fact, I will pick Царь-бомба.
 
3:33 PM
May 23 at 13:54, by RegDwight
Can I be a "czar czar"?
 
Give me -‍-‍-‍back‍-‍-‍- ‍*‍*‍my‍*‍*‍ ‍*‍markdown‍*‍.
 
Mar 14 at 17:14, by RegDwight
user image
 
Why are some of your asterisks smaller than the others?
 
@Martha Jin's fault, as usual.
 
Wait, I though everything was my boss' fault?
 
3:36 PM
i have a question for @Dori. why is she always in this chat, always ghosted? is it just so that we can summon her if necessary?
 
Speak of the devil, gotta go.
 
Apr 20 at 21:19, by Robusto
@Dori — You are the Kibo of SE.
 
Apr 20 at 20:49, by Dori
@RegDwight Hey, what's wrong with lurking? You gotta problem wit' 'dat? ;-)
 
Apr 4 at 10:00, by Dori
@Robusto Yes, I got that reference (damn, I'm old)
@JSBangs — Just be thankful she's making her presence felt here. Imagine the shenanigans certain folks would get up to if she weren't silently watching us every minute.
 
Well, there are people lurking here without actually ever being seen.
Grace Note and mmyers, for starters.
 
3:42 PM
@RegDwight — You're just trying to scare us. Typical Commie deception tactics.
 
im scared
 
i, for one, feel better knowing that our benevolent SE overlords are monitoring our every action
 
@JSBangs — Proper little Communist, ain't ya?
 
(I would rather like if somebody who is not participating in DA would avoid coming on the meta, and pretend things are done as he likes better. Does this make me a Communist?)
 
@Robusto Envious?
 
3:47 PM
Somebody shoot @Robusto, his aggressive stance is making me uncomfortable.
 
@RegDwight — You're the one who's envious. I should send you pictures of my back yard. The Japanese maple is looking lovely this time of year.
 
(It seems parentheses work.)
 
@z7sg — If you think that's aggressive, you don't know me.
 
Now would be the ideal time for @Martha to brock out the heavyweight baby photos,
 
@z7sg are you calling Martha's neice fat?
 
3:51 PM
What is this place, why am I so confused, and why was I mentioned?
6
 
All babies are fat dude
 
@VasiliySharapov — Well, I think you were summoned as part of @RegDwight's invasion force.
 
Vasiliy doesn't sound like a French name to me
 
Bonjour, jem'appelle mostly using Google translate
Mon dieu! Sacre bleu!
I used to be able to form sentences about going to the library, but that was ~4-5 years ago
What's the number under my name? Chat momentum or somesuch?
 
3:55 PM
@VasiliySharapov Nice to meet you, Mr Translate :-)
 
i know how to say Tu es toujours dans mes cochemars
@VasiliySharapov no, that's your rep on english.se
 
Wait, whuh? I have an account on ... confusing... You mean the sum of my rep on all English exchanges?
 
OMG. Are you serious, you got summoned in that French guy's stead?
Lemme try again.
@fx
 
Hahahahaha.
 
+1 to hahahahaha
we are a very confusing chat room. we evidently succeed even in summoning hapless users from other sites who have never heard of us
 
3:59 PM
/me sees that now
Err, ... fu... not IRC , I am bad at speaking.
 
Part of the problem might be that that French guy intentionally chose a name that basically makes him unsummonable except via a mod ping.
And the mod ping... well, how should I put it...
in German Language and Usage, yesterday, by RegDwight
It only works once in a blue moon every second leap year, and not on this planet.
 
So... this is a pace where people chat about chatting in English?
Like, twitter but with more brain cells?
 
this is the chat for english.stackexchange.com
 
Obviously, we also chat about French, German, Russian, Japanese, you name it.
 
we are, i'm proud to say, one of the weirder chats in the stack exchange network
 
4:01 PM
At the moment we seem to be chatting about chatting about chatting in English.
 
(altho i haven't been in too many others. perhaps they're all this weird?)
we're off-topic probably 90% of the time
 
I'm Russian! I can totally chat about that! And I can edit my previous post! With markup
 
Well, on Gaming, you can insert coin. Doesn't work here.
May 21 at 12:44, by RegDwight
@hippietrail бѣз проблѣм.
 
@JSBangs — It's combined rep on all sites, I do believe.
@RegDwight — And Communism. Don't forget about that.
 
Should I quit this place while I'm ahead?
 
4:03 PM
Ни за что!
 
@Robusto ai dreptate
 
@VasiliySharapov — The Magic 8-ball says: "Definitely not."
 
Well, it's lunch time, maybe I'll get some food and chat about chatting about chatting in English.
 
Feb 23 at 14:35, by RegDwight
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Me, I actually have to commute.
Morgen ist Feiertag, alles geschlossen. Which means that I should do some shopping, too.
 
@RegDwight — Have fun on your holiday.
 
4:06 PM
CU @Reg
 
bbye
HEI GUYZ. i just discovered that I can sing the theme song to The Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire substituting "Welsh Patagonia" for "West Philadelphia". it's much improved that way
 
@JSBangs the correct IPA for "cette page" woud be [sɛtpaʒ] very much i think like "set" in English I'd say
 
aha! an actual francophone!
@Alain merci beaucoup
 
pretend.
 
@JSBangs — s
 
4:15 PM
@Robusto hmmm?
anyhoo, i think this is dangerously close to peeving:
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Q: Dilution of the word hero to include sports personalities

TreffynnonI have often wondered what makes sports personalities heroes. I have always thought of hero referring to someone who risks their life to save others. For example soldiers and to a lesser extent emergency services. Is it accurate to describe athletes as heroes?

i voted to close as subjective
 
@JSBangs — I thought it was merci beaucoups. But I could be wrong.
 
@Robusto i'll let @AlainPannetier correct me if he wants to
 
@JSBangs — I beg your pardon.
 
@Robusto, merci beaucoup (it's an adverb) There are a few words ending in ps though (like temps).
 
@JSBangs That is peeving. I agree with it though.
 
4:19 PM
@AlainPannetier — すみません
My way of saying "thank you" ...
 
@Robusto, 没问题 (that's mandarin though)
 
Wut? It's not subjective.
Oh, you guys! You know something I don't!
I've been wanting to get at the OED!
This is mostly to settle arguments about definitions. Wiktionary vs dictionary.com etc etc.
So, from what I understand, the abridged OED is free, but the real one is for-pay. Am I right?
 
@JSBangs I voted to close too. Definitely peeving.
 
@VasiliySharapov i think that's correct
i haven't checked, though
 
The OED doesn't settle arguments about definitions, IMHO.
For starters, most if its definitions were composed in the early 20th century.
And secondly, arguments about definitions shouldn't exist in the first place.
 
4:35 PM
clicks
 
it's possible for a definition to actually be wrong
although most arguments about definitions aren't about that sort of thing
 
Then the place to resolve a dispute would be called corpus.
As long as it's what lexicographers use these days (or so I think).
 
if you wish to go that route, you can regard a dictionary as a distilled corpus
 
Yeah, that's what I do.
 
which provides concise, useful, but not necessarily definitive answers
ok, then
 
Kit
4:40 PM
@AlainPannetier That's not "thank you." That's "I'm sorry."
 
@Kit, that's why I answered meiwenti which is Chinese for "no problem".
Hoping that that would be close to the Japanese. I can't speak or even write Japanese but they share quite a lot. May be @Robusto can confirm/infirm if that makes any sense at all in Japanese.
 
Kit
@AlainPannetier Oh, frig. Of course you did. If I looked closely, I would have seen that. 对不起。
 
Frig?
 
Kit
@z7sg Clean version of f*ck.
@z7sg Regional?
 
" Another possible origin is that it is based on an appeal to Frigg, a Nordic fertility goddess."
Just checking, maybe you thought Alain is the earthly incarnation of Frigg the fertility goddess.
 
Kit
4:46 PM
@z7sg Never thought of that. I'm going to start capitalizing it, then. Freya's my girl!
 
没问题 makes no sense in Japanese that I can tell.
 
:D Now what is all is Japanese about?
 
Kit
@Robusto Of course not. It's Chinese.
@Robusto :)
 
@Kit Read Alain's comment
5 mins ago, by Alain Pannetier
Hoping that that would be close to the Japanese. I can't speak or even write Japanese but they share quite a lot. May be @Robusto can confirm/infirm if that makes any sense at all in Japanese.
 
@Robusto In case the detail rings a bell:
没 => no
问题 => problem
 
Kit
4:49 PM
@Robusto Yes, I know. It was a joke.
 
Speaking about Frigg, I find it fascinating that all days of the week are named after deities in English. Is that so in other languages? French? Spanish? Something?
 
Robusto is closed for jokes until he gets hooked up to the damned Subversion repository correctly.
 
Kit
@Robusto Making silly jokes does not convey well on the Internet. (making notes)
 
@Kit : now you type "对不起" ;-)
 
Kit
@AlainPannetier Urch. Typing Chinese takes so long. Let me copypaste.
@Robusto 对不起。
 
4:52 PM
@Kit, Windows and Linux have some nice IME using at least pinyin as an entry.
 
I'm out. TTYL.
 
Kit
@Vitaly In Chinese, they are numbered, except for Sunday, which is "sun day."
 
is “Sun” a personification of Sun there, as in English?
 
@Vitaly in the romance languages, they're not only named after deities, they're named after the same dieties in their Latin names
 
Kit
@AlainPannetier That's not the issue so much as my pinyin is rusty at best, and I have to keep pulling out my dictionary to look up the correct character.
@Vitaly I don't think so.
 
4:53 PM
Monday = Moon's Day = Sp. Lunes cf. Latin luna
Tuesday = Tiw's Day = Sp. martes cf. Latin Mars, Martis
 
Well… Those are definitely not the same deities.
 
Wednesday = Woden's Day = Sp. Miercoles = Latin. Mercuris
Thursday = Thor's Day = Sp. joves = Latin Jovis
 
Kit
@JSBangs Not Tyr's Day?
 
Friday = Freya's Day = Sp. viernes = Lat. Venus, Veneris
 
Tiu actually is an English deity (pre-Anglo Saxon, if my memory serves me well), as opposed to the Scandinavian Tyr
 
Kit
4:55 PM
@Vitaly Oh, thanks.
 
@JSBangs Not Frigg? (Frīgedæg)
 
Saturday is different, though, as the Romance languages mostly have something like Sp sabado, Rom. sambata related to "sabbath"
Sunday is something like "Lord's Day" in Romance as well (sp. domingo, rom. duminica)
 
Kit
@Vitaly Frigg and Freya are related, aren't they?
 
@Vitaly aren't Frigg and Freya the same person?
@Kit jinx
 
The connection with and possible earlier identity of Freyja with Frigg (Frija) in the Common Germanic period is a matter of scholarly dispute.
SO they're the same then I guess.
 
4:57 PM
@Vitaly and yes, you're right that Thor and Jove are not really the "same" diety, but nonetheless the parallelism is pretty strong
 
@JSBangs Scholars theorise that they go to the same common deity (pretty much like Yahweh and Elohim in Ancient Judea and Israel, who became united into one deity later), but it doesn't seem to be commonly accepted. For what it's worth, Wikipedia has separate entries for them.
 
"By Jove!" is actually a terrible blasphemy then...
 
Kit
@JSBangs I'd say Odin and Jove are more closely related than Thor and Jove. Except for the thunderstorm thing.
 
In Slavic mythology, Perun is the highest deity in the pantheon, and he is related to thunderstorms just as well
 
it's supposed that having the highest diety be a thunderstorm god is a proto-indo-european thing, since it shows up in some form in pretty much every IE group
 
Kit
5:03 PM
@JSBangs But isn't Odin the "highest" deity?
 
@Kit yes, but Thor's up there
 
Kit
@JSBangs Oh, you said PIE.
@JSBangs Are the Aesir PIE?
 
the thunder god is not necessarily the highest god in all of the daughter paganisms, but he's usually present and significant
 
@JSBangs Yeah but as a natural phenomenon it's pretty much the most badass thing there is.
 
@z7sg er, aside from the sun. note that egyptian and most semitic mythologies have the sun as the pricipal diety
 
Kit
5:06 PM
@JSBangs Thunder is more badass than sun.
 
@JSBangs hmm…That's actually interesting. What can be said about Yahweh/Adonai/Elohim/El, Allah, Baal in that respect? Baal particularly seems to be associated with thunderstorms.
 
@Vitaly do you know if Yah/El is reconstructed as being associated with any particular natural phenomenon?
 
Jinx.
 
i'm not sure that counts as a jinx, but whatever
i don't know a whole lot about semitic mythology, so i'm hesitant to speculate here
that's why i asked you
 
Kit
You guys are funny.
 
5:07 PM
I don't know what he was associated with in the really old times, but during the Yahwist period he was a god of war certainly (Yahwism predates Judaism)
 
anyway, you'll notice that the PIE speakers are from places with thunderstorms, while the Middle East and the semitic urheimat, presumably don't have them, but have a lot more sun
@Vitaly war is not really what i meant by "natural phenomenon"
 
I know, I am just saying what I know
 
by the exilic period he was associated with basically everything
 
in other words, I don't know for any natural phenomenon associated with Yahweh
well, I do, but I don't know if that particular claim is substantiated as well as everything else: it's claimed he was a dust demon (basically, a god of the desert) in the pre-Yahwism period
 
@Vitaly what would be the evidence for that? info on the pre-Yahwist period is pretty hard to come by, no?
 
Kit
5:10 PM
@JSBangs What about smiting? Is smiting a natural phenomenon?
 
anyway, i'm off to lunch
 
@JSBangs That's why I decided not to mention it at first. The book I read didn't provide any evidence for that particular claim.
Have a nice lunch.
From Wiki:
> For example, Karel van der Toorn (1998) suggest that the name Yahweh may have been taken from the name of a god in ancient Semitic religion, in origin a storm god both related to and in direct competition with Hadad (Baal).
 
This is weird stuff you made me google for Vitaly nationalfuturism.org/yahwehnations.html
 
@JSBangs One could argue that war is indeed a natural phenomenon. ;)
…given how humans roll.
And from Wiki, about El:
> He may have been a desert god at some point, as the myths say that he had two wives and built a sanctuary with them and his new children in the desert. El had fathered many gods, but most important were Hadad, Yam, and Mot.
Yahweh + El (+ Asherah and many other gods; Asherah was the goddess of fertility, so when they excised Asherah from their mythology, Yahweh had acquired the power to give fertility) = the modern Judeo-Christian deity, roughly
 
random logouts should be gone now, hopefully
 
Kit
5:23 PM
@balpha Thank you.
 
@Vitaly So, it seems that the Judeo-Christian deity supposedly originated in the sum of a desert deity and a thunderstorm deity
(With no conclusive evidence.)
 
Kit
@Vitaly It kind of wigs me out when you talk to yourself like that.
 
@Kit I think of it as writing a chain of connected messages, there being no other way to indicate that
 
@Vitaly Woah there! Who is the thunderstorm deity, El?
 
@z7sg No, pre-Yahweh (to distinguish him from the modern Yahweh); El is supposedly the desert god
 
Kit
5:27 PM
@Vitaly I understand (and support that), but it still feels weird.
 
In Hungarian, Monday through Friday are derived from numbers. Monday = hétfő > hét "seven" + fő "head"; Tuesday = kedd > ketted > "second"; Wednesday = szerda > Slavic szreda, szereda "third"; Thursday = csütörtök > Slavic csetvertek "fourth"; Friday = péntek > Slavic pjatok "fifth". Saturday = szombat is derived from the same root as English Sabbath. Sunday = vasárnap > vásár "market" + nap "day".
 
@Vitaly i would refer to the pre-Yahwist diety as Yah and the other as El, to distinguish them from YHWH, the fused monotheistic deity
 
(This also explains why Hungarian calendars use Monday as the first column: it's right there in the name of the friggin' day that it's the head (= first day) of the week.)
 
Ah, another devotee of Frigg
 
Kit
@z7sg Guess it's: regional
Any ASP programmers in the house?
 
5:41 PM
@Kit It's what I should be doing right now instead of chatting... (but asp classic, not .net)
 
Kit
@Martha We have so much in common. Maybe would should ally our houses.
 
@Kit What's in it for me?
 
Kit
@Martha I'm trying to evaluate the value of a variable in markup using <%# %> tags. Think you can help with that?
@Martha I make a great sister-in-law.
 
I'm not sure what the # sign is doing between the script tags.
 
Kit
@Martha <%# If(blah = bla, "true", "false") %> Oh, but that's probably .Net, isn;t it?
 
5:45 PM
More to the point, it's Javascript, not VBScript.
For what it's worth, in VBScript I usually end up just doing Response.Write variable_name & "<br>" or something similar.
 
Kit
@Martha I started in with "No, it's not" but then realized that I've never really thought about it. I usually do all my coding in VB.Net, with a few markup Evals for databinding. I never thought of that as javascript.
 
If its in VB.Net, then it ought to be VB-like, but I've found that .Net infects everything with parentheses and other C-derived diseases customs.
But now that I think of it, If(condition, value if true, value if false) looks like an Excel function.
 
@Cerberus: we're under attack, and I don't seem to be able to win a single match. See if you're more lucky. I'll stop right there, so as not to pile up even more negative points and make matters even worse for you.
 
The truly VB way to write an If statement is If [condition] Then [value if true] Else [value if false] End if.
@RegDwight Pineapple alert: it's either "make matters worse" or "make the matter worse".
 
6:05 PM
Kthx.
 
Kit
@Martha Yes, that true. The syntax I've given is not for code-behind, but for markup.
@Martha I'm going to fix it with a clever solution involving a hammer.
 
@Kit I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making.
@Kit Ooh, hammer! Lovely! I like 'get a bigger hammer' solutions.
 
Kit
@Martha Instead of writing the If statement in a function, it's used to evaluate (in this case) whether or not something is visible. <lbl Visibility='<%# If(some = all, "true", "false") %>' /> -ish pseudocode
 
I do that sort of thing all the time, but it doesn't involve # signs.
 
Kit
@Martha Huh. Are you databinding?
 
6:10 PM
@Kit Asp classic. Me don't know from databinding.
 
> We asked all the children if a certain illogical sentence was grammatically correct: “Apples grow on noses.” The monolingual children couldn’t answer. They’d say, “That’s silly” and they’d stall. But the bilingual children would say, in their own words, “It’s silly, but it’s grammatically correct.”
 
Kit
@Martha No databinding in Classic. Good to know. (making notes) What do you use it for, then?
 
<option <%If [stuff] Then Response.Write "selected"%> value="blah">Blah</option>
 
Kit
@Martha That's all Hungarian to me. :)
Anyone got change for a twenty? I'm craving a little bevvy for the afternoon.
Guess I'm off to the union then. AFK. Back in a few.
 
<p><%If Request.Form <> "" AND SiteID <> "" Then Response.Write errStr%>Site: <select size="1" name="Site"><%[code to generate options]%></select></p>
 
6:22 PM
Hey, cool gang.
 
Yo.
Does this sound like idiomatic Present-day English: “I gave him what help I could,” “We will give ourselves what chance we can”?
 
“I gave him all the help I could” sounds more familiar for the first case. I'm not sure about the second case, and applying this reasoning doesn't seem to make it any easier..
 
“Quite a number of people in Britain realised what there was of truth in the German grievance,” “I know not of what harmony pervaded her whole person”?
 
Maybe: “We will give ourselves the best change we can.”
 
@Vitaly Both of those sound fine to me. I believe they use what = whatever.
 
6:31 PM
Hear, hear.
 
@Vitaly This sounds awkward, though. This use of "of" is slangy/deliberately incorrect, so its presence in an otherwise formal-register sentence is confusing.
 
Jez
erm, in case anyone cares from back when i was pinged, I would pronounce cette in that sentence as sɛt
 
Thanks.
 
Nothing wrong with "I know not of..."
Sounds a bit archaic rather than slangy to me.
 
@Martha Those all are quoted in Poutsma's Grammar (1926–1929) from literary sources.
 
6:34 PM
Really? Even the "there was of truth" example?
 
Yes.
 
Kit
@Vitaly I thought they sounded rather old fashioned.
 
I can interpret "I know not of what harmony" as an archaically-phrased "I don't know of the harmony", but I can't similarly rephrase "there was of truth".
 
Kit
@MrDisappointment It's "Kool & the Gang," not cool gang. Silly.
 
it's just "what truth there was"
 
6:37 PM
Ok, I guess.
My turn to be AFK...
 
@Kit I guess I'm just not that cool. Or, 'kool', even. :(
Ugh, I just noticed the typo I made above, in a quote, of all things. I'm too lazy.
 
Kit
@MrDisappointment Everybody's that cool.
@MrDisappointment Unless they are as cool as me.
 
@Kit My Flash Player is disabled. :P
 
@Kit My gosh - that sounds like it should be played in the haunted house rides at fun fairs.
 
Kit
@Vitaly Damn.
@MrDisappointment Which?
@MrDisappointment Oh. Yeah.
 
6:46 PM
@Kit THE GAME.
 
Kit
@MrDisappointment I should totally get a badge for that.
 
@Kit Oh goodness me, you posted another one?
 
Kit
@Vitaly ??
 
Totally. Make the feature request, man.
 
@Kit Hmm.
 
Kit
6:49 PM
@Vitaly I've never seen that one before. Thank you.
 
> Losses must be announced to at least one person[6] (either by using a statement such as "I Lost The Game" or by alternative means)
 
Kit
@Vitaly I am honored.
 
7:07 PM
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